Headwinds of De-globalization are Inflationary, Adam Taggart and Mish Video

Adam and I discuss oil, government spending, the Fed, food prices, the stock market, price controls, cryptos, housing, and de-globalization.

Here’s one set of comment in particular that I made and want to emphasize.

  • “This is the big thing the Fed is fighting. We’ve gone from just in time production with global wage arbitrage, to every country for itself.”
  • “Looking ahead, the Fed, every time it got in trouble, could slash rates.”
  • “And it had a tailwind at its back, a tailwind of [disinflationary] globalization. We now have a headwind of de-globalization smack in the face of the Fed and that de-globalization is inflationary.”
  • “The Fed’s got it work cut out for itself.”

My point was that when recession hits, the Fed will not have the same ability to slash rates as before without triggering more inflation.

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PreCambrian
PreCambrian
3 years ago
I have been following Adam Taggart since he was with Peak Prosperity. He is quite reasonable without being alarmist or over the top. I was impressed with Mish in the interview, not very political at all. I agreed with most everything except your statement regarding that Biden opposing almost all kinds of fossil fuels has caused (or even contributed in a substantial way) to the US energy situation. First, although there has been some talk, nothing has really happened regarding oil and gas. Even if something did happen it was too soon to really affect US energy output. And only about 6% of US energy comes from federal lands. I can easily understand you being against Biden’s energy policy and I don’t feel that Biden’s policy is actually very coherent. Anyway it is a minor part of the interview. Keep up the good work. I like reading and listening to a rational conservative.
I also caught some of your photography that you mentioned and I read your equipment list. Very good. Much better than I can do although I am more into wildlife (for my own photography not necessarily viewing) than landscapes.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
Guess those years of deflationary talk are off the table.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
Very enjoyable talk with some good points, BTW.
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago

The demographics, debt destruction are deflationary.To prevent massive deflation and asset value destruction, we conveniently have a supply chain dismantling. We are still dismantling the global economy AFTER Covid. So clearly, with idiots like joe Biden in office and a fossil fuel hater, he is also creating inflationary pressures on the base level of energy.So conveniently, world nations are avoiding a global implosion and depression by killing supply and keeping prices high. Clever!

MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Excellent discussion. I was disappointed the biggest headwind wasn’t discussed: Demographics. The US, Europe and Asia have a huge aging demographic. In the US boomers retire at a rate of 1 to 3 million per year. There aren’t enough young people to back fill those retiring and if you could conjure up 30 million babies tomorrow, they won’t be useful until 2050 at best.
60 million people on social security and medicare won’t help debt in any way shape or form. Where are the doctors, nurses, physical therapists, etc going to come from to take care of boomers? If we force/incentivize young people to go into health care then other industries lose out. We have labor shortages of everything today and we aren’t even close to the mass boomer exodus yet, that won’t happen till 2030.
The economy is fundamentally about PEOPLE producing and PEOPLE consuming, we are heading to a top heavy CONSUMING and very little PRODUCING. The tidal wave hits in 8 to 10 years, right now we are seeing the ripples.
As an example, here is list of massive teacher shortages happening all over America.
Esclaro
Esclaro
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
I am one of those retired baby boomers. I consume almost nothing except food to cook at home and a little gas for the truck. My only expense is foreign travel.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Esclaro
The year before your dirt nap is when things start getting spendy.
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
what a charmer!
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Do you live in a house? if so then you likely consume fuel in the form of electricity, natural gas and maybe heating oil. You are dependent on thousands of people that provide that energy to you. Do you have an AC and water heater? Those too are consumables since most don’t last more than 10 years.
You admit to air travel so you have dependencies, at a minimum on airline pilots, flight attendants, air traffic controllers, airplane mechanics, customs and immigration agents for exit and entry into countries. I assume you eat when you travel so you have dependency on restaurants and all the staff they have (cooks, hosts, waiters, billing clerks, etc). I assume you stay somewhere so you have dependency on hotel clerks, maids, and other staff.
For a boomer that consumes “very little” you have a huge dependency on people. And that food you eat has to be grown by farmers, harvested by person or machine, loaded onto a truck, driven by someone to a distribution center, unloaded then loaded onto another truck that goes to your grocery store where someone has to unloaded and put it up onto shelves. The “food” thing you do has a huge long chain of people and we’re not even talking about bananas from south america that requires ocean shipping.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Japanese stock market peaked in 1989 and has never seen those levels. It feels like the recent peaks in the US won’t be revisited anytime soon. If Japan is an indicator, it’s been 31+ years.
Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
3 years ago
Good interview, Mish. In addition to the coming pension crisis, also comes the question of when social security becomes insolvent? From what Ive read it is from 7 to 11 years. That issue cant be put off much longer.
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
Reply to  Roadrunner12
With the age of the average voter climbing it’ll be the younger generations footing the bill
Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12
3 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
And the younger generations may also be waiting later to receive social security and as well could be receiving less.
I would guess that the issue will not be dealt with until the system is insolvent.
Options:
-increase age to receive benefits
-increase premiums
-decrease benefits
-grandfather existing beneficiaries &lower benefits for new recipients.
-Combination of above
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Karen McMommie isn’t gonna like getting a smaller heap of discount outlet merchandise.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
“We now have a headwind of de-globalization smack in the face of the Fed and that de-globalization is inflationary.”
I agree in the mid to long term.
In the short term I expect disinflationary / deflationary forces to prevail as strong $US + global recession + asset bubbles bursting (hard) unfolds over next 12 to18 months (or so).
Do not see SUSTAINED (multi year) inflation till massive global debt overhang addressed via paydown / write down / write off.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Tony that is my opinion as well.
One more wave down in yields then that is it for perhaps a long time
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Let’s not forget that those write offs are income stream someone else counts on. Deflationary.
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Gonna make for a pretty rough next 5-10 years
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Taggart?
Congrats on the Big Time, Mish.
Adam VERY solid.

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