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A Reader Asks “What Would it Take for Me to Change my Mind on Inflation?”

Reader Question

Hi Mish,

I’ve been a big fan of yours for some time. I stumbled upon you when you were writing Mish’s Global Economic Trend Analysis on blogspot. You had written several articles on Ron Paul, which caught my attention circa 2011.

I appreciate you insights and your blog. I really enjoyed your recent interview with Daniel Lacalle. It made me question my own views on the transitory versus perpetual inflation debate.

I understand your argument in how the US is following Japan and Europe in the debt and demographics categories. Like you, I believe that these demographic shifts are putting upward pressure on wages. To me, this will put more money in the pockets of consumers, who are likely to spend it, putting upward pressure on the PCE and CPI. I think part of the debate will be if this spending will counteract the lack of spending coming from retiring baby boomers.

Another thought I’ve had on inflation is, Murray Rothbard had stated that changes in prices in general are determined by changes in the supply of and demand for money. During Japan’s deflation and during Europe’s, there have been great strides in the globalization of the economy. This has increased the supply of goods and increased the demand for money, causing deflationary forces. If globalization has hit its limit and begins to contract, consumers will see a decreased supply of goods causing the demand for money to decrease. If the supply of money stays the same or increases during this period, inflation could become more perpetual.

Another aspect of this debate is that Mises (and reiterated by Rothbard in his book America’s Great Depression) stated that the “boom-bust cycle is generated by monetary intervention in the market, specifically bank credit expansion to business.”

In your article, “Exploring the Idea “There’s Never Been a Better Time to Borrow”, you made a great case that businesses are not excited about borrowing from banks. The shutdowns have created great uncertainty in the economy. Businesses are unable to forecast future demand like they could prior to the shutdowns. Once this uncertainty has cleared, I believe, businesses will borrow again. However, if this demand doesn’t pick up, deflation will become prevalent and the inflation we are seeing now would have truly been transitory.

I’m curious what changes would need to take place for you to change your views on the transitory side of the inflation debate.

Finally, I want you to know that you are part of the inspiration for my own blog and investment newsletter (baerlocherbearing.blogspot.com).

Thanks,

Alan

What? No Inflation?

Right now the Fed and BLS massively undercount inflation and a look at housing proves it.

On Monday, I noted Home Price Growth Hits a New 30-Year Record, What? No Inflation?

Transitory or Not?

I agree with the Fed that inflation is transitory. But my key reasons strongly differ as to why.

I suggest it’s transitory because the Fed has sown the seeds of another economic collapse in its foolish struggle to force routine prices up while ignoring clear asset bubbles that will pop.

On top of that, demographic forces are in play. Sure, wages are rising, but we have to balance that with demand destruction from retiring boomers as well as pending supply of homes.

Might I Change My Mind?

For starters, no one has a clear crystal ball. We are all speculating, but there are a couple of things that could get me to change my mind on the transitory nature of things. 

  1. Monetary Madness From Congress Signed Into Law
  2. The Fed Moves to Make Its Liabilities Legal Tender

Congressional Madness

I see little scope now for the Senate to go completely insane this year or next as Democrats do not have even their own 50 votes let alone 10 votes of Republicans to do what they want. 

However, it’s possible they change filibuster rules, and get control of the Executive and Legislative branches, then pass some $90 trillion AOC and Progressive free money madness including guaranteed living wage indexed to inflation. 

Should that happen, we are talking huge inflation for years.

Fed Actions

If the Fed were to make its liabilities legal tender, then look out.

Contrary to widespread myth, the Fed cannot give money away. The Fed makes loans to banks giving them money for assets, typically US treasuries. These swaps, have to be paid back and thus cannot be directly and permanently spent.

Sometimes these swaps have been dubious if not outright illegal as was the case with the Fed buying of junk bond ETFs. But given the Fed is beholden to banks, the Fed does not want to quickly destroy the dollar. They are content to do it slowly at a rate of about 2% a year, blowing bubbles in their wake that will pop. 

One hint they would be marching down a more lenient path would be if the Fed suddenly supported cryptos for reasons that sound like something out of the mouth of Elizabeth Warren.

Digital Currencies and Parachute Pants 

On June 20, I asked Elizabeth Warren Supports Central Bank Cryptos. Should You Be Worried?

On June 28, the Fed’s Vice Chair for Supervision, Randal K. Quarles, commented on Central Bank Digital currencies. 

For details, please see A Fed Governor Compares Digital Currencies to Parachute Pants and Bitcoin to Gold

Quarles’ statements were shockingly refreshing. He openly blasted all the stated reasons for central bank digital currencies out of the water. Indeed, his speech seemed aimed directly at Elizabeth Warren. 

But as with Congress, that can change. Powell may not be reappointed and no one can say for sure who the next Fed Chair will be or what craziness may ensue.

Those are the two things that could get me to change my mind in a hurry. 

Meanwhile, the Fed has blown another bubble, the third in just over 20 years and it will pop.

Bubbles Pop, When? Why?

I cannot answer either question but I can say the widespread belief that it will take rate hikes by the Fed is simply wrong.

Bubbles pop when there is a sudden sufficient attitude change. I assure you that one final rate hike by the Greenspan Fed did not cause an attitude adjustment.

Yet, one week there were lines in Florida wrapped around the corner for the right to enter a lottery to buy a condo. That’s how nuts it got. But literally one week later the lines vanished. 

Similar things have happened in Japan. 

I am amazed actually how big these bubbles got, but it was only recently that “measured” inflation took off. 

I also recall the prevailing attitude when oil hit $130. It was next stop $200, then $500. We hear similar comments today but will only know in hindsight.

Right now, speculation and housing are all the Fed has, and they are surely trying to keep them going. But to bet on the Fed is to bet that bubbles never pop. 

The dotcom crash, the housing crash, and 30 years of Japanese deflation fighting prove otherwise.

Addendum on Assumptions 

What About Gen X?

Fantasyland Projections

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RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
5 years ago
“The Fed makes loans to banks giving them money for assets, typically US
treasuries. These swaps, have to be paid back and thus cannot be
directly and permanently spent.”
QE is nothing more than what once was called a “coupon pass,” done on a regularly scheduled basis.
The purchase of Treasuries via QE is not a loan.  Repos are.  Coupon-pass operations are not.  They are an actual sale of the securities to the Fed.
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
5 years ago
“The Fed Moves to Make Its Liabilities Legal Tender”
This doesn’t make any sense.
First off, one of the Federal Reserve’s largest liabilities are FRNs and they are legal tender and have been since 1933.  But FRNs are held by others.  The Fed does not possess them to spend.
It doesn’t make sense to talk about buying something with a liability.   Can you buy something with your credit card debt?  Banking reserves is the largest single liability category the Fed has.  Those reserves are the assets of the banking system – the Fed “owes” them to the banks.  In reality, it, like much our money, is just one big accounting exercise.  There’s nothing behind this “obligation.”  But the Fed “spending” this liability is nonsensical and anything that simulated “spending” it would burden the banking system, as I describe below.
Lacy Hunt’s argument seems to be that the Fed is limited in what they can buy because reserves are not legal tender.  But that has nothing to do with it.  The Fed is simply prohibited from buying assets other than those it currently buys.  The law(s) can be changed or eliminated.  The Fed is also prohibited from buying directly from the government as their purchases must be from the open market.  That requirement can also be eliminated.  But neither has anything to do with an inability to use their liabilities.  They are simply restricted in what they are allowed to do to create those liabilities.  Those laws can be changed.
I will note here that all funds that go into the TGA (Treasury General Account) do indeed come from reserves.  While we all think of paying in terms of our deposit accounts the true “payment” occurs within the Federal Reserve System as reserves are debited from one bank’s reserve account and credited to that of another or to the TGA.  So when you electronically pay or write a check to Uncle Sam the “funds” for it really come from your bank’s reserve account.  The move into the TGA drops total  banking reserves as the TGA is a separate FRS liability from banking reserves.   It is simply a reclassification of a liability from one category (reserves) to another (TGA) within the FRS.  They are reversed when the government spends the money back.
As I stated above, the TGA is itself a liability of the Fed.  It is also a Treasury asset.  So does it make sense to use the Treasury’s own funds to provide funds to the Treasury?
If the Fed were to go out and buy whatever it would work like QE.  The Fed would credit the reserves of the bank and direct the bank to credit the appropriate demand deposit account.   Under QE this deposit account belongs to a Primary Dealer (most of them are NOT banks – they are separate securities outfits and maintain a deposit account at a clearing bank, usually the one that is part of the same holding company).
The reserves are the sum total of reserves deposited from all banks.  So if the Fed were somehow to “use” these reserves they have to remain the same overall as this is a Fed operation and nothing initiated from within the banking system.  There is no bank reserve account to debit and they can’t just debit “total reserves” as the accounting doesn’t work.
So if the Fed were to buy something “using reserve liabilities” from the non-bank sector of the economy all that would really happen is that the Fed would direct some bank to create a new demand deposit credited to the account of the entity from whom the purchase is made.  The only difference between that and what is going on under QE is some bank would burdened with an additional deposit liability without any corresponding reserves provided to back it.
The Rogoff proposal quoted in the “Lacy Hunt Blasts MMT and Speaks of Hyperinflation If Implemented” post of yours on this a while back is nothing more than allowing the Fed to buy directly from the government by acquring a different type of Treasury “asset”.  One that never matures presumably.   He uses the term “zero maturity” but that means something quite different.  Zero interest as well, which they may as well do since the Fed by law is required to return virtually all of their profits (mostly coming via interest) back to the Treasury.  But again, this does not require making liabilities legal tender.  Just change the law about what the Fed is allowed to do.
shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
Yes, the dot com bubble popped and a housing bubble deflated but those were both “transitory”.  Stocks are now triple what they were in 2000 and housing is higher than in 2006, in some areas much higher.  I venture to say that those who predict bubbles all the time did not take advantage of the post-bubble prices because they are always expecting it to get worse, much worse.  You can’t fight the Fed.  They create money out of thin air. 
anoop
anoop
5 years ago
we are not japan and yellen already said we will not have another crisis in our lifetime. 
i’m in the inflation camp.  why?  because pretty much every ceo out there is seeing it and none of them believe it’s transitory.
i’m also in the camp that believes that the fed will be surprised by the inflation and will wait a couple of years for it to settle down and will be even more surprised when it accelerates instead of settling down.  inflation will be blamed on shortages and supply chain issues which are supposed to be temporary, but they will keep hitting us whether in semiconductors, oil, labor market (record numbers of people retiring as their portfolios hit their magic number), etc.
in the mean time, mish will be waiting for deflation, just as he has been waiting for stocks to drop since the time the s&p500 was around 1000 back in 2009/2010.
Too much BS
Too much BS
5 years ago
Keynes = clueless economists. There is no backtracking on prices, infation will keep going up till there is a meltdown.   
Lumber prices are slightly down on the markets but not at the stores. Oil, Gas, Electricity are going up not back down.  
The cure for high prices has always been and is for higher prices ahead.   
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
5 years ago
What is it about the demographic changes meme? Are seniors spending less of their accumulated wealth, or try to spend it all?
Spending priorities change: more vacations, more healthcare spending, but who invented the idea of less spending, some academic?
If generation X or whatever buys assets, it’s because they are borrowing more, and we know where that goes.
xbizo
xbizo
5 years ago
one temporary support for inflation – free rent – is ending in another month.  The eviction moratorium hits inflation two ways, keeping people from re-entering the workforce and providing free  money to spend.  The reversal should be a double hit going the other way.
Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago
Reply to  xbizo
Eh… I’ll believe it when I see it.  Evictions have been one month away for 6 months.
KidHorn
KidHorn
5 years ago
Reply to  xbizo
Wouldn’t the landlords have corresponding less money to spend? Although 20 poor renters would almost certainly spend more than 1 rich landlord.
KidHorn
KidHorn
5 years ago
Look at what happened in Japan. They had a huge housing bubble. People borrowed enormous amounts to buy property. The bubble popped and the debts remained. People spent their money paying down mortgages instead of spending on other things. The result has been decades of deflation since demand dried up. I see a similar path in the US.
Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Been watching houses closely, and I think my area has hit peak.  Sales 2 weeks ago were all 20-30% over asking, now they’re showing up as at asking, or maybe 5k over.
Let’s see how many are willing to pay 150k over asking when there’s no more crazy appreciation.
Ziggy
Ziggy
5 years ago
I expect rents to be a major source of inflation(with a lag) due to increased house prices, property taxes etc.  Landlords will also have to start pricing in the higher reserve for replacements.  The eviction moratorium has increased the risks of being a landlord; therefore a greater return will be required.  How many mom & pop landlords do you know have sold out…often to a owner occupied purchaser.
Will pandemic rental assistance be used as an offset to increased rents allowing the Fed(PCE) &/or the BLS(CPI) to hide inflation?  I don’t know the answer but I wouldn’t put it past them to say its what the consumer is paying & he is not paying the accrued rent.  Take this a step further;  there is broadband assistance up to $50 per month allowing some consumers to get their internet for free.  Will the BLS use an AVERAGE internet bill(with those on the government dole paying zero and average it to those who pay full price) to calculate the inflation.  What this entails is a rate of change of the percentage of the population on the government dole getting stuff for free or at a reduced rate(Increased Section 8 housing).  What a great way to hide the inflation and proclaim it is contained!
Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago
Reply to  Ziggy
Maybe it got more expensive to be a landlord, but that didn’t remove supply from the market.  I don’t see rents going up anytime soon… especially when the evictions start.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Very good points. Good question too, and a worthwhile discussion. 
If a bust is coming regardless of interest rates, then deflation wins, hands down. If the government goes full UBI and full green, then inflation wins.
If we have a crash, and THEN  the government starts handing out free money, then it might take a LOT of money to bring us out of what would probably amount to a real depression. 
Makes me want to cash out. My instincts are to be in cash now. But I only own tangible assets, so I can ride it out if I need to.I doubt people will quit renting houses here. There is a real shortage of properties, given the demographic shift and all the growth in tech. I doubt people will stop buying iPhones.
Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
They might… or they might opt for the $400 model instead of the $1000 ones.  Phones are getting to where computers got to a decade ago: The new ones just aren’t all that much better than the 5 year old ones.
I suspect people that can’t afford the standard components of the American dream will shove their heads farther in to games with attainable virtual goods as rewards.  A lot of the crap people buy is just to show off to other people, and a well designed game can fill that need pretty well… especially with Gen Z consumers.  As stupid as it seems to us olds, they do get quite a bit of satisfaction out of virtual possessions.  I view this as a positive…. less stupid physical crap bought and sent to the landfill.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I think some people are crazy for virtual swag……but I’m not sure how big a subset of the population that happens to be…..I’m with you on the landfill…way too much of our GDP is spent on worthless junk that goes straight to the garbage.
I only just got my first smart phone a few months ago. . I was holding out for a flip-phone version, but finally got an iPhone…of several generations back. I miss the pocket size phones…they don’t seem to be able to make that work for smart phones,What’s up with that?
aj54
aj54
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I finally got a smart phone too, I bought one of those leather wallets for it with the slots for your credit cards n ID.  My last phone I could text with, and go online to get email, but that was all you could stand with a small screen anyway
Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
iPhone se fits in my pocket ok.  iPhone 5 was the tiny one… but I don’t know if they are still usable.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I think, the smart thing is to be in hard assets. You’re lucky if you bought when prices were relatively reasonable. You’re even wise if you think your luck is the result of the coin flip engineered by the grave diggers of the financial system.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Hard assets are a great form of security against a currency collapse, but you can’t convince me that gold in particular  is any kind of hedge against inflation. It has not worked out too well in recent years.
And I think those waiting for the death of the USD are going to all die before the dollar does.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
By hard assets I meant real estate, not gold. Gold is for speculation, not a hedge against collapse.
Agree, the USD will limp on, only because of trillions (formerly billions) of transactions are done with it every day.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
I refer to RE as a tangible asset. Metals are tangible assets as well, but “hard assets” I thought was mostly a term used for the metals.
Neither is a paper asset, and neither will ever fall to zero……more than I can say for many stocks. Another issue I have with equity investments is that small stockholders don’t have the same real ownership rights that major stockholders and corporate officers have…..they’re always 2nd class citizens at best…and often patsies, unfortunately. Stock buybacks reward CEO’s and leave ordinary stockholders as bag holders. Screw that.
I like RE, but in a deflationary collapse, leveraged RE investors can get killed. At the moment my leverage is roughly 30%…less than usual, and I’m trying to deleverage more…as much as I can without depleting my cash reserves.

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