Auto Sales Jump as Hurricane Replacement Continues: Ford Sees “Plateau”

The Wall Street Journal reports Auto Sales Continued Hot Streak in October.

Ford Motor Co. was the lone Detroit competitor posting an October gain, reporting a 6.4% increase compared with the same month in 2016, selling 199,698 light vehicles. Toyota Motor Corp. , Honda Motor Co., and Nissan Motor Co. also recorded year-over-year gains despite having one fewer selling day last month versus the prior October.

General Motors Co. and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV, however, reported declines. GM said sales fell 2% in October to 252,813 vehicles because of a decline in sales of passenger cars, reflecting a preference for trucks and sport-utility vehicles. Fiat Chrysler reported a 13% drop in sales to 153,373 vehicles in October, a decline driven by a modest fall in retail sales and a reduction in sales to fleet buyers, such as rental-car companies.

WardsAuto.com estimates overall sales fell slightly because of the disparity in reporting days, but the closely watched seasonally adjusted annual rate of sales is expected to be a robust 18.1 million, outpacing the prior October’s 17.8 million and initial expectations for a 17.5 million SAAR. Full-year auto sales through 10 months are holding close to the pace set a year ago.

Another Plateau Theory

Ford sales chief Mark LaNeve said strong underlying economic factors—including wage growth and low unemployment—are helping to keep showrooms busy and should result in a “plateau” of industry sales near record levels in coming months.

“Consumer confidence is up, the stock market is up—that really helps the psyche of our buyers,” Mr. LaNeve said on a conference call. “It’s still a backdrop of a very strong environment.”

Flooded Cars

Buyer Beware

Over 1 million vehicles were destroyed or damaged in Hurricanes Harvey and Irma. Used car buyers better beware because a Flood of Storm-Damaged Cars are now on the market.

Flood damage is easier to conceal from an untrained eye than damage from a wreck, but it can be more devastating to the engine and other key components, said Christopher Basso, spokesman for the used car research firm Carfax. Flooding can destroy a car’s electronic system, affecting safety features like air bags and anti-lock brakes, while rust can rot the vehicle from the inside, Basso said.

Scafidi expects the number of flood-damaged cars to be greater for Harvey than it was for Hurricane Katrina in 2005, both because of Harvey’s bigger footprint and because in the last 12 years more vehicles rely on computer technology and electronics.

“Beneath the surface, water can permanently damage computers that control everything from the gas pedal to steering,” said Cliff Wood, chief operating officer at CarMax, a leading used car dealer.

It is not illegal to sell or buy a flood-damaged car, as long as both parties are aware, Scafidi said. But some sellers conceal the damage and offer a nice-looking car at a suspiciously low price.

Since Hurricane Katrina, the National Insurance Crime Bureau has offered a free vehicle identification number, or VIN, check service to see if a car has been in a flood. The service is available at www.nicb.org/vincheck. A VIN also can be entered into the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System.

Replacement Demand

Meanwhile, let’s not confuse forced replacement demand with ongoing strength. Car sales were in a huge downtrend before the hurricanes and that downtrend will continue once the replacement period is over.

The same applies to ISM and PMI manufacturing strength. Much of it is related to autos. The next economic turn will likely be sharper than normal, and most will not believe it when it does happen.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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JohnH
JohnH
6 years ago

Mish, will you please talk about what you see the next “economic turn” will look like, and how to be prepared now.

channelstuffing
channelstuffing
6 years ago

numbers as usual massively cooked by biblical levels of channel stuffing!never seen so much over supply (ever),dealers parking vehicles at abandoned malls,even walmart (lol),might need to rent container ships and start storing vehicles out in the pacific like the oil drillers,floting parking lots lol

Greggg
Greggg
6 years ago

The flood damaged cars are miserable once the problems start down the road. Most computer connections are gold plated and the computer sense voltages (generally 0-5 volt scale) that control the features function at very low current, so when corrosion occurs at the connection points, the voltages change signaling the computer into producing the wrong function for a given input, ie adjust the mirrors and the wipers turn on instead. In older model cars it becomes a nuisance that is restricted to wipes mirrors, radio, and other comfort features, but in later model cars you have basic functions that are electric powered and computer controlled such as steering and throttle control, cruise control, headlamps, ect, and that becomes an accident waiting to happen. It’ll become a wait and see what the DOT decides are going to be the next restrictions if this situation results in deaths and injuries.

Medex_Man
Medex_Man
6 years ago

There is a new youtube video of a Tesla owner listing the numerous quality control problems with his Tesla. The “new” model is being cobbled together by hand, while the company’s lawyers have told music man Musk not to claim the car is self driving (because it isnt).

Meanwhile, heavily indebted US citizens are buying more practical cars made from proven technology — Ford, Toyota, Honda, Nissan. Government Motors is curiously missing, but they might (not sure) be doing OK in the truck category as opposed to cars — Govt Motors still makes lots of military vehicles, that’s how they are staying afloat.

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