Charlie Munger Accidentally Makes a Case for Bitcoin In His Attack on Cryptos

Audience Participation

Here’s a great clip of a young high-school age girl asking Warren Buffet for one investment idea at the Berkshire Hathaway annual shareholder meeting.

I partially covered this video in my previous post. In this post I want to cover the Bitcoin angle and statements by Munger.

Q: “If you had to pick one stock to bet on, which would you choose … in what will likely be a very difficult market?”

Buffett A: “The best thing you can do is be exceptionally good at something. Your abilities cannot be take away from you, inflated away from you. The best investment by far in anything, is develop yourself. It’s not taxed [applause]. That’s what I would do.”

Buffett’s answer was exceptional. Let’s now tune into Charlie Munger’s response.

Avoiding Things That Are Stupid, Like Bitcoin

  • “I’ve got some advice for you too. When you have your own retirement account and your friendly advisor suggests you put all of your money into Bitcoin, just say no.”
  • “In my life I try to avoid things that are stupid, and evil, and maybe look bad in comparison on somebody else. Bitcoin does all three.”
  • “In the first place it’s likely to go to zero”.
  • “It’s evil because it undermines the Federal Reserve System which we desperately need “

Buffett on Bitcoin

Quotes

  • “I should not answer any questions on this subject but I will.”
  • “If you told me you owned all of the Bitcoin in the world and you offered it to me for $25, I wouldn’t take it because what would I do with it? I’d have to sell it back to you one way or another.”

I am sure his quotes will be taken out of context. In context, Buffet made an argument that’s at least understandable.

He followed through with comments I disagree with about money, but at least he made statements that were understandable and debatable in contrast to total nonsense from Munger.

Importantly, Buffett made a key point on something I strongly agree with.

Anybody that thinks the United States is going to change the way they let Berkshire Money [an imaginary crypto alternate] replace theirs [the dollar] is out of their mind.

I am a strong believer in a free market for money.

Gold has been money for thousands of years, and arguably still as central banks own it in reserves.

If Bitcoin was adopted I would accept that. But there is no free market in money.

Importantly, if Bitcoin ever threated the central banks they could and would squash Bitcoin into oblivion and it would not even be that difficult. 

Technology is Not Evil 

Calling Bitcoin evil is the same as calling technology evil. Certainly there are evil uses of Bitcoin and nuclear energy, but neither is inherently evil by themselves.

Hoot of the Month 

Although Munger had strong competition, my Hoot of the Month award goes for his ironic comment “It’s evil because it undermines the Federal Reserve System which we desperately need.

Wow. Talk about ass backward. 

The Fed, fictional reserve lending, and the Fed’s constant bubble blowing escapades are what’s evil, not Bitcoin.

And note that my defense of Bitcoin is from someone who does not like the crypto space at all. 

In irony upon irony, Buffett and Munger blast bubbles and Bitcoin yet praise the Fed.

Buffett Quotes

  • “Wall Street makes money, one way or another, catching the crumbs that fall off the table of capitalism.”
  • They [Wall Street] make a lot more money when people are gambling than when they are investing.”
  • Large American companies have “became poker chips” for market speculation. He cited soaring use of call options, saying that brokers make more money from these bets than simple investing.
  • “It’s almost a mania of speculation,” Charlie Munger, 98.

Mania of Speculation 

There’s no “almost” about this. We do have a “mania of speculation” and “poker chip” gambling because of the Fed and insane amounts of QE on top of three rounds of fiscal stimulus from Congress.

Bitcoin may be in a bubble, but unlike the Fed, Bitcoin has never caused a bubble.

The Fed has blown three major bubbles in 20 years. 

Fed Operations Look More Like a Ponzi Scheme Than Bitcoin or Ethereum

For more on my coverage of the Berkshire annual meeting, please see Warren Buffett Blasts Stock Market Gambling Casino, Loads Up on Energy Shares.

For more on the ability of governments to kill Bitcoin at will, please see Fed Operations Look More Like a Ponzi Scheme Than Bitcoin or Ethereum

The Fed is truly out of control and has been for a long time. But those who like financial bubbles and depend on them for a living are cheering for still more.

This post originated at MishTalk.Com.

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Call_Me
Call_Me
1 year ago
It’s a big club and you aren’t in it, but Uncle Warren will admit it exists:
Call_Me_Al
Call_Me
Call_Me
1 year ago
“Although Munger had strong competition, my Hoot of the Month award goes for his ironic comment “It’s evil because it undermines the Federal Reserve System which we desperately need.

Wow. Talk about a$$ backward.”

Wrong, it is not backwards. He was using the ‘royal’ we, meaning that he desperately needs the fed to continue.
Call_Me_Al
(note: apparently quoting the above text leads to one’s comment being rejected for violating some guideline, so I had to modify it to skirt the algorithm)
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Bitcoin IS stupid. But there are other currencies that are actually practical… Algorand is an example.
The teeming, screeching monkeymass got Bitcoin in their heads as equivalent to “crypto currency “, and that will take years to dispel.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Anybody that thinks the United States is going to change the way
they let Berkshire Money [an imaginary crypto alternate] replace theirs
[the dollar] is out of their mind.
The government exists for the benefit of the government. No one that i know, is calling for a digital dollar. It is the government that wants to impose it for their benefit.
Zero Hedge: Panicked Guest on CNN Wonders “How We’re Going to Control The Channels of Communication in This Country”
Government wants to impose controls for their benefit.
The Covid response was all about government controls for their benefit.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
And how did the government benefit from Covid, my kooky friend?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Indoctrination validation.
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
The govt was able to observe how much control the citizens were willing to give them and observe where the lines of resistance occurred.
All over a germ that by their own stats killed 1 in 400 ppl, most of whom were elderly.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Authoritarianism is always for the benefit of the government.
lamlawindy
lamlawindy
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
A bunch of politicians & bureaucrats got to tell Americans how to live their lives. THAT’S how govt benefitted.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago

Q: “If you had to pick one stock to bet on, which would you choose … in what will likely be a very difficult market?”

Buffett A: No answer. Changed the subject.

BDR45
BDR45
1 year ago
Mish: Gold is not money. It has been occasionally in history, as minted gold coins, but I dare you to take a US 5 dollar gold coin to the grocery store and try and buy $5 worth of goods. I own a lot of gold just because a lot of people like you think it is money and will go up in price. (wait till it goes to $5000/oz, and you cash out. You are in for a surprise. The IRS will take 28% cap gains, and the balance may or may not be worth a down payment on a house, or even a night out on the town) The ONLY reason I like gold is that you can privately store it, and possibly it can be used in the future to barter. But even now, you really can’t travel with a pile of gold coins for fear of it being confiscated, so gold is becoming more and more useless, except for jewelry and dentistry, by the day.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
…Admirable fossiles they are, although becoming more anachronistic by the day, CNBC Joe compared them with those two old guys on the balcony in the Muppet show …..LOL , he nailed it !
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
It is worth noting that the two old guys always have box seats — the most expensive and best seats in the house.
Steve_R
Steve_R
1 year ago
My favorite line from Munger is “Bitcoin is rat poison.” I agree with him because fiat currency is the rat!
Buffett and Munger have been shrewd hedge fund managers for years. I think all of us would love to talk our book and have the stock go up 10% to 20% in a few days after them announcing they are buying whatever stock.
JMHO, I believe that they over loaded with banks and companies like master card that have money to lose with the adaption of blockchain. Master card and visa have charged 3% for every transaction to merchants for way too long. They will use their lobbyists to try to slow this down in the US for sure, but in the long run they will lose business.
lamlawindy
lamlawindy
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve_R

Spot-on. Bank of America is about 14% of Berkshire Hathaway, and American Express is about 8%. If 22% of my holdings were threatened by defi, then I’d be attacking cryptocurrency too!

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