China’s Trade Surplus Vanished Into Thin Air: What’s Going On?

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mannfm11
mannfm11
4 years ago

Mish has one thing right. If we had to use gold, this would have never happened. Credit has allowed Americans to hock their houses and live it up. That won’t work much longer. The problem here is the money leaves the economy. $200 billion paid to American workers gets spent in the community again and again. Taxes on American goods are likely 35%, when all tax is considered. All is because of the excess credit.

2 things were primary causes of the Great Depression. One was a new thing, called consumer finance. The other was the US building large trade surpluses through lending to bankrupts around the world. Trade was settled in gold, not bonds. Americans lost their jobs, because their customers were broke, leading to more broke customers. The same is coming to a Chinese state near you.

SmokeyIX
SmokeyIX
4 years ago

Testing one, two.

Mish
Mish
4 years ago

Realist made one of the best comments ever on this website.

And we do not always agree on things.

MickLinux
MickLinux
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish

If tariffs can change what country holds our deficit, then an ideal tariff would be country neutral, and penalize the worst offenders the worst (whatever measure you are using), and the least offenders the least.

Thus, you would use competition to drive better behavior.

Mish
Mish
4 years ago

How then is it that Trump “started a trade war”?

Well – He did – by classic definition
It’s not winnable either – by his tactics

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
4 years ago
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“What Trump has done is acknowledged the war has already been under way [for fifty years] and the US is getting beaten to a pulp.”

Menaquinone
Menaquinone
4 years ago

Chinese economic reports are unreliable to say the least. Distorted is closer to the truth. All bad news is hidden or suppressed. If the data show stagnation then a good bet is collapse. Tariffs only began months ago. China demands compromise. China has no leverage. The US economy is prospering in contradiction of main stream propaganda “news”. President Trump knows the rules of war. When the enemy is in retreat one must commit all reserves and pursue with maximum aggression. Tariffs are going to 50% as soon as China makes the slightest resistance as an excuse.

The purpose of tariffs is to replace the income tax on wealth creation and savings with a tax on consumption. After tariffs achieve revenue of $1Trillion per year President Trump can cut taxes again to stimulate manufacturing investment in the USA.

magoomba
magoomba
4 years ago

They are buying real estate.

KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago

China’s primary way of trading unfairly was to exchange Yuan for USD in forex and buy US treasury debt. They don’t do this any more as they have no need to do so since their current account surplus is gone. Tariffs were needed a decade ago. Not now.

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