The Wall Street Journal reports U.K. Labour Party Would Back Second Brexit Referendum.
The U.K.’s main opposition Labour Party said it would support holding a second Brexit referendum, a policy shift that breathes some life into the prospect of Britons voting again on whether the U.K. should leave the European Union.
Actually it doesn’t breathe life into anything as I will explain in a moment, but here is another article along the same lines.
The New York Times reports Labour Party Leader, Under Pressure, Backs a New Brexit Referendum
After the resignations of nine Labour Party members last week, and amid the prospect of more, the party’s leader, Jeremy Corbyn, dropped his longstanding resistance to a second vote on leaving the bloc.
Mr. Corbyn’s support for a new vote is certainly no guarantee a new vote will happen. Still, it will cheer pro-European Britons, who have been fighting to reverse the outcome of the 2016 referendum decision.
The Labour statement on Monday was lacking in detail, and it was not immediately clear when the amendment for a second vote would be put forward in Parliament and what question, exactly, it proposed to put to the people.
Bluff Under Pressure
The New York Times got the gist of the story in the headline. The key words were “under pressure”.
Corbyn does not want a second referendum. He wants new elections. There are many in the Labour party that actually support Brexit.
He had to pick which group to alienate.
The primary risk at the moment is more MPs abandoning the Labour party. With polls turning back towards the Tories, that is hemorrhaging that Cprbyn had to stop.
He supports a second referendum for the simple reason he knows the votes are not there. But he gets to stand back and say, he gave it a shot.
The second referendum idea is going nowhere.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Well no worries of anything getting done today, May has to go stick her nose up Pakistans and Indias ass. LOL, as if she will be able to do a damn thing except drag her cankles.
The choice should be binary, either no deal or the May Deal. But we know that the whole thing is a stitch up as you said in your previous post. Make it a three way choice and neither choice can get a majority, and so nothing happens. Then May gets a vote to ‘ask for an extension’, and we end up in limbo until they call a second referendum and rig it so it goes the right way.
Isn’t it disgusting?
Blatantly obvious that voting no longer matters.
A dangerous state of affairs if the population disengaged from the political process en masse when they realise it no longer matters.
Yes, a second referendum would most likely be rigged…
Well the previous one was rigged, only not enough to ensure the required result.
The problem we have in the UK is that a majority of MPs dont want us to leave the EU. Instead of recusing themselves from the process of exiting as they should, they are trying everything that they can to keep us in. The two main threads of attack are ‘ruling out a no deal’, and a ‘second referendum’.
Both ploys are completely ridiculous on the face of it. You cant have a proper negotiation if you cant walk away, we all know that. But if you delegate a task of negotiation to your friend, and they have the interests of the other party at heart and not yours, then you wont get what you expect.
The second referendum is more problematic for the remain MPs. We all know that democracy is dead if we have a second referendum. The sad thing is that most remain MPs dont care a jot about democracy or doing the right thing. Hence why I believe that it is still unlikely that we will ever get to leave the EU. I think our best chance is for the EU to collapse from the centre rather than for a nation like the UK to leave of its own accord.
Or we stay in and make their lives a misery from the inside.
That too, but our political class are such a bunch of useless idiots they don’t have the wit to do that. We should make cause with all those who oppose the EU and help to destroy it.
The immobilism of the UK political class is an unmitigated disaster! A second referendum will solve nothing. It is time for politicians to take decisions for which the people have elected them.
the final “nail” was that the UK has the wrong kind of pallets to export to Europe; two things first that the UK only realized that they had the wrong kind/size of pallets, the second is that there is a “right kind of pallet” in Europe… Afterall pallets are to go in containers, and these are predetermined not european standard and so how the UK could have the wrong kind of pallet boggles the mind!
Still walking into a disaster of their own making
Iv;e met many drunks in my life from all walks of life. He looks like one to me 🙂
As for the question- it will be a three way vote winner take all- Remain, No-deal exit, and May deal exit.
If structured like that the result would be a foregone conclusion
It would result in an ungovernable country.
An In/Out first vote then split 3 ways in a second vote to weaken the Out contingent.
Blatant manipulation, asking for trouble.
That is a tried-and-true Brussels tactic.
Keep having “do-over” votes, until you get the result you want.
If only the saps would muster up the sense and cojones to become genuinely ungovernable…
Neither party has a bloc big enough to force a 2nd referendum alone, so the support will be bridged between the two major parties along with a bit of support from the minor ones. The first step will be to delay the exit at the end of March- first for 3 months, then for enough time to hold the second vote. May has been working towards this all along- she was always in the Remain faction, but had to make it look like she was negotiating an exit, but not one good enough to actually win a vote in Parliament. It has all, every single bit of it, been a charade done with the full cooperation of the EU negotiators.
I don’t think it’s a ploy. The simple fact is the key Western Countries no longer have functioning democracies. The elites simply can’t accept the coming changes. It’s quite serious.
very cool
Mish. Look at these Pics from Iceland Feb 18, 2019. This one looks like a once in a lifetime chance an awesome Aurora display.
Wow!!!