Lets be honest the whole CRT discussions is based in the idea that American children actually understand history in some form that is more than reciting the date of the arrival of Cristopher Columbus. This is just another cliché used the the GOP and the right to further its own agenda, which is that the White Man is being persecuted…
I would love to see the day when a k-12 teacher tells her student that drug sentencing is racist. I mean everyone know by now that crack cocaine mandatory jail term is 5 times longer than for ordinary cocaine possession. One is derived from the other, and one is consumed mostly be non-white; perfect example of CRT which shows that sentencing guidlines for almost the same product is 5 times worse for the product consumed by the black population. Now of course first you have to talk about drugs…which I believe is a taboo in American schools.
The issue is not the issue being discussed is to fuel the White Rage, and nothing else. Like Trump’s lawsite of Facebook and friends, its a fund raising tool nothing more.
Er into Marxism and politics of envy and hate via the route of spurious systemic racism?
Odd you cannot see it?
Webej
2 years ago
The definition of CRT above is self-contradictory. If race is a cultural construct with no biological footing, how do our racist institutions even keep track of which race people belong to?
This whole idea suffers from the same inconsistency as all cultural relativism. Upon discovering that Chinese use chop sticks, we conclude that using a knife and fork are ‘just’ cultural traditions, so we can eat with out hands. Upon discovering that there is a society somewhere that doesn’t associate pink with baby girls and blue with baby boys, we conclude that sexual color schemes are illegitimate.
But where does ‘just culture’ come from?
Can we do without? Why does it exist if it is just an oppressive burden?
Is breast milk just a cultural restraint on women, as Nestle once tried to persuade the world, old-fashioned compared to formula?
Eddie_T
2 years ago
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Eddie_T
2 years ago
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Here’s a little counterpoint to CRT.
Beginning in 1964, and lasting until the present day, the US culture has been trying through legislation and policy to bring Black people into the main stream of society, with mixed results. But one unexpected consequence of that is a pervasive POV among Black people that they are entitled to special consideration on most matters.
I see the irony here. It is the very children of the beneficiaries of such policies, like Ibram Kendi, who are now clamoring for MORE consideration. Kendi is himself the age of my kids. He went to private school. He is the son of a two parent successful middle-class black family in NYC. Who are btw , Jamaican immigrants to this country.
He got a schlocky degree in African American Studies from Florida A&M and a Masters in same from Temple. His real name, the one he went by until he started writing bad books, was Henry Rogers. I don’t blame him for changing it. Ibram X. Kendi sounds so much more African.
What makes this Millenial poser such an expert on civil rights? Really?
What makes some white woman like Robin DiAngleo an expert who should be schooling federal government employees?
Well, it was a PhD. she picked up at one the country’s first programs in Multicultural Education, which was run by a Black guy named James A. Banks, whose position was created out of the whole cloth at U. of Washington, as a sop to student activists who demanded more back faculty back in 1969. . In my view, another beneficiary of changing laws and social policies that have been ongoing since the real civil rights movement.
All the people clamoring for more rights now……clamoring for a passel of changes to achieve what they perceive as social justice……can only do so now because white voters supported the changes that came with the civil rights movement. But now we are the bad guys, by default…..
I lived though public school desegregation. I rode the school bus with poor black kids. They rode the same bus as poor white kids like me, where I’m from…I remember MLK. I remember Thurgood Marshall. I remember LBJ and the Great Society initiatives…. and I’ve been a witness to the good and bad consequences of Affirmative Action…..
So I should listen to these homegrown “experts” explain to me about my white privilege and how all the laws in this country are, by design, intended to keep black people down? This movement is driven by the kids of middle-class blacks…..who went to some college somewhere, which was paid for by their parents who got good jobs, often as a RESULT of changing laws and mores in the culture. Bu now they’re screaming it wasn’t enough….because presumably Black people are still not thriving. Still an underclass.
I’m here to tell you the as long as we give minorities of various stripes special consideration, there will ALWAYS be an underclass.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Here’s a little counterpoint to CRT.
Beginning in 1964, and lasting until the present day, the US culture has been trying through legislation and policy to bring Black people into the main stream of society, with mixed results. But one unexpected consequence of that is a pervasive POV among Black people that they are entitled to special consideration on most matters.
I see the irony here. It is the very children of the beneficiaries of such policies, like Ibram Kendi, who are now clamoring for MORE consideration. Kendi is himself the age of my kids. He went to private school. He is the son of a two parent successful middle-class black family in NYC. Who are btw , Jamaican immigrants to this country.
He got a schlocky degree in African American Studies from Florida A&M and a Masters in same from Temple. His real name, the one he went by until he started writing bad books, was Henry Rogers. I don’t blame him for changing it. Ibram X. Kendi sounds so much more African.
What makes this Millenial poser such an expert on civil rights? Really?
What makes some white woman like Robin DiAngleo an expert who should be schooling federal government employees?
Well, it was a PhD. she picked up at one the country’s first programs in Multicultural Education, which was run by a Black guy named James A. Banks, whose position was created out of the whole cloth at U. of Washington, as a sop to student activists who demanded more back faculty back in 1969. . In my view, another beneficiary of changing laws and social policies that have been ongoing since the real civil rights movement.
All the people clamoring for more rights now……clamoring for a passel of changes to achieve what they perceive as social justice……can only do so now because white voters supported the changes that came with the civil rights movement. But now we are the bad guys, by default…..
I lived though public school desegregation. I rode the school bus with poor black kids. They rode the same bus as poor white kids like me, where I’m from…I remember MLK. I remember Thurgood Marshall. I remember LBJ and the Great Society initiatives…. and I’ve been a witness to the good and bad consequences of Affirmative Action…..
So I should listen to these homegrown “experts” explain to me about my white privilege and how all the laws in this country are, by design, intended to keep black people down? This movement is driven by the kids of middle-class blacks…..who went to some college somewhere, which was paid for by their parents who got good jobs, often as a RESULT of changing laws and mores in the culture. Bu now they’re screaming it wasn’t enough….because presumably Black people are still not thriving. Still an underclass.
I’m here to tell you the as long as we give minorities of various stripes special consideration, there will ALWAYS be an underclass.
arealarson
2 years ago
Where did Biden administration, and what major media outlet, argues that CRT theory should be taught K-12? Where is CRT actually taught K-12? Think CRT is a poorly thought out academic theory that is being used as a straw man.
Further, Joseph Epstein, the “Woke Culture War” WSJ’s opinion piece author you hyper texted has an interesting history. link to en.wikipedia.org
Exactly. Just another thing to provoke outrage, and attendant adrenaline hit.
How dare people think that! How DARE they share that thought!
At this point people are so addicted that they can’t stop themselves from turning on Fox News…. And fox knows what they come for. Gotta score, maaaaan!
I give it another week or so before the frightwigs are flipping about some new outrage.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Several of the comments seem to have disappeared, including mine. If somebody deletes a comment, I guess the responses get deleted too? Maybe that’s what happened.
It’s a prescription for turning poor unproductive white people INTO racists…..for creating a whole new generation of White Power no-nothings.
If you’re a liberal who didn’t love Trump, you should think hard before you buy into CRT as the means to right the wrongs of racism. This is a blatant attempt to grab power by demonizing the racial group that has been the most successful…..in order to take what guys like Ibram Kendi think should be taken. And it will galvanize the same people who love Trump, into the kind of action none of us needs.
Kendi is fairly typical of the new generation of woke Black man. He is the age of my kids, the son of middle-class New Yorkers of Jamaican descent. He went to private school. He changed his name from Rogers to make it more African. He got a degree in African American Studies from Florida A&M and a Masters from Temple in the same “field”, making him an expert in what might be the most questionable social science that exists. But the Woke press and the Woke left think he’s some kind of Messiah.
I know at least as much about the history of racism as Mr. Kendi. After all, I actually lived through the Civil Rights movement and Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society. I grew up riding the school bus with poor back kids and attending school with them during the great shuffle that was public school desegregation. I am a witness to the consequences, good and bad, of policies like Affirmative Action.
But my lived experience is somehow not as important as Kendi’s because he is black.
It’s a crock, and liberal leaning people are completely sucked in by it. It’s a shame really, in my view. Where this takes us, the eventual destination, is what those of you who favor this POV should think about.
Ask yourself if you want communism, because that’s where embracing CRT will take you.
MrBridger
2 years ago
It really strikes me funny that you were so dead against Trump Mish. There isn’t one thing that Mr. Biden is doing that is good for America. Russia was a giant hoax. Your media is bought and paid for. Keystone is dead. CRT is here to stay. Political folks locked down and burned their own cities. The woke mob censors political discussion. The NSA openly spies on journalists. In effect you are losing your country. You helped. Job well done!
Russia is a proven hoax while Hunter Biden emails that prove Biden is compromised are suppressed
BLM goes round Burning Looting Murdering during ‘mostly peaceful’ protests and children are indoctrinated with hate to see skin colour before character
So yes it’s fair to ask Mish why support a sweetg but senile man in post who is being led around by Marxists
I can undertsand your voting for Biden indicates you are generally uninformed, but there is this thing called Google. Just type in Psaki and CRT.
Bay-Brit
2 years ago
Public Sector Sexism – Female Librarians 78.91%, Female Social Workers 83%, Female Public School Teachers 76.6%. Why are men discriminated against in the public sector like this, how can it be helpful?
TinManMT
2 years ago
But do the law and legal institutions in the United States IN FACT “function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans’?
If you say they do, then how can you argue they not inherently racist?
If you say they don’t, then we’re not on the same plane of reality.
When one race breaks the laws more than another, then the social and economic outcomes aren’t equal. They must think the laws should be ignored to accommodate excuses, or changed because privileged white people created them. CRT is a bunch of bunk.
If the system is set up to discriminate against non-white ppl then how do so many African, Indian, and Asian kids do better academically than native born white kids?
How are these children short-circuiting the system’s racism?
And CRT is about destroying our free and meritocratic culture and replacing it with Marxism and politics of envy -as long as everyone is equally poor they’re happy (apart from our glorious Marxist leaders of course -looking at you Patrisse link to dailymail.co.uk)
dbannist
2 years ago
CRT is based on a lie. It is an attempt to cover up the reality that black America has a culture problem that is responsible for much of the problem it faces today. It is more comfortable to believe that black America is oppressed today than to believe that black America has a fatherless problem that is the true cause of the violence, poor socioeconomic outcomes, and educational attainment. There have been multiple studies on this and all of them overwhelmingly conclude that fatherless homes, not the color of skin, are the primary arbiters of outcomes. In other words, black America much change it’s family culture if it wants to do as well as whites. When 74 percent of black homes are fatherless compared to just 22 percent of whites, that’s going to result in a very different outcomes. And no, I do not believe fatherless homes are the result of oppression. They are the result of a culture of promiscuity, lack of motivation for marriage, and lack of mentoring in life (again, due to fatherless homes.) When studies have looked at fatherless homes, and ignored the color of the skin, whites and blacks fare almost equally poorly. So strong is the link that over 80% of the correlationship between fatherless homes and crime, socioeconomic outcome and educational attainment is whether or not the parents were married and there was a father in the home. Since black America has 3x the rate of fatherless homes as whites mathematically they are more affected.
Pointing this out of course, makes one a racist but it is the clear obvious elephant in the room.
It’s a complicated situation to which you just did your on cover up. You chose to ignore the past and present policies that lead to your correct and simplistic use of them. Our history does include many events and policies we don’t like to teach.
Maybe it’s not fixable but if conservatives don’t try and address real present past policies and events, it is the left that will address them. Think back to Obama care and conservative ostrich approach and what we got. I am a conservative but you will react the same way you point out in your last sentence and call me out for bringing up the elephant in the room you ccose to ignore.
There is a back story, but that is no longer happening. The only legacy that is still hurting black America is the lack of inheritances that are coming their way.Other than that, I do not believe there are any present policies that are hurting black America. None. It has never paid more to be poor in the history of our country. There has never been more opportunity for blacks than now. There is no systematic racism occurring today of any kind, except perhaps in prison sentences for the same crime as whites….but even that is not certain due to past criminal records being a huge factor in sentencing.Almost all of the problems black America has today is of their own making. Single parent homes are almost always a choice and the culture of single parent homes in black America is horrific with horrific results.You can accept the reality of the past and say confidently (and I do) that past racism was a true hindrance, but that is no longer the case. I’ve never once had anyone actually demonstrate that systematic racism is still occurring anywhere in America. Hugely blown up news stories of racism occurring has made people believe it is widespread, but it is not.
Riiiggghhttt. A man gets a woman pregnant and the woman is happy to replace him with the State and the man is happy to not have to tie himself down and be a dad and put his kids first and THAT is b/c racism?
That all started with LBJ’s great society where he wanted to eliminate poverty. Child welfare payments could only be had if the women were single parents. Black illegitimacy went from around 25% in the early 60’s to what it is today in just a decade. The government’s good intentions once again backfired. But it keeps democrats elected, which was the goal of LBJ, as he stated he would have the black vote for the next 50 years.
Doug78
2 years ago
Arizona just joined the growing no-to-CRT group. AZ also voted a curriculum transparency law so that parents can monitor what their children are being taught. Once parents see what it really is they are horrified.
That law may be a good idea or some kind of scholastic review. We have to remember these are children that are being taught. History shouldn’t be pabulum but it also should be negative.
It’s a good law. No question about it. Once parents saw what was being taught they acted. CRT looks like it’s going the way of Braxton Bragg at the Battle of Missionary Ridge and for the same reason.
Scooot
2 years ago
If you teach in school that one section of society are inferior to others it exacerbates the problems. In later life it is likely to cause those labelled as inferior to rebel against it and make matters worse.
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Where did Biden administration, and what major media outlet, argues that CRT theory should be taught K-12? Where is CRT actually taught K-12? Think CRT is a poorly thought out academic theory that is being used as a straw man.
Pointing this out of course, makes one a racist but it is the clear obvious elephant in the room.
There is a back story, but that is no longer happening. The only legacy that is still hurting black America is the lack of inheritances that are coming their way.Other than that, I do not believe there are any present policies that are hurting black America. None. It has never paid more to be poor in the history of our country. There has never been more opportunity for blacks than now. There is no systematic racism occurring today of any kind, except perhaps in prison sentences for the same crime as whites….but even that is not certain due to past criminal records being a huge factor in sentencing.Almost all of the problems black America has today is of their own making. Single parent homes are almost always a choice and the culture of single parent homes in black America is horrific with horrific results.You can accept the reality of the past and say confidently (and I do) that past racism was a true hindrance, but that is no longer the case. I’ve never once had anyone actually demonstrate that systematic racism is still occurring anywhere in America. Hugely blown up news stories of racism occurring has made people believe it is widespread, but it is not.
I know exactly who gets hired for those jobs today…..hispanics.
Why? Because they work hard, get the job done and can be depended on.
IF racism is alive and well in the ag field it’s not doing a very good job discriminating.