Democrats Drop Free Community College From Build Back Better Goals, What’s Next?

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Jill Biden Announcement   

The Wall Street Journal reports Jill Biden Says Free Community College Off Table.

First lady Jill Biden said that two years of tuition-free community college won’t be part of the Democrats’ stalled child-care, healthcare and climate package, as she addressed a gathering of community college educators.

“Congress hasn’t passed the Build Back Better legislation yet. And free community college is no longer part of that package,” the longtime community college professor said Monday during remarks to the 2022 Community College National Legislative Summit.

“We knew that this wasn’t going to be easy. Joe always said that. Still, like you, I was disappointed,” Dr. Biden said.

The president’s original proposal would have waived tuition for two years of public community college, as well as provide many students more cash to cover living expenses. In an address to Congress last April, Mr. Biden said that his wife would be “deeply involved” in leading the effort.

In a press conference last month, Mr. Biden said he wasn’t sure he could get funding for community college in any new effort.

Build Back Better As Presented No Longer Exists 

The key idea of the day goes to  Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia. 

The Build Back Better as it has been presented over, what, the last seven, eight, nine months, that bill no longer will exist,” Mr. Manchin said on CNN Sunday.

Abandoning free community college was expected as it did not even make the final House version. Yet, Biden kept hope. 

That hope was dashed today, not by the President, but by the First Lady. 

It’s the first of many major disappointments that will surely follow.

Democrat Senator Ben Ray Luján Sidelined Four to Six Weeks 

Confounding the woes for the Democrats who need 50 of 50 votes, Senator Ben Ray Luján is Sidelined With a Stroke.  

It was the troubling development that Democrats holding a precarious 50-50 Senate majority had long been dreading: One of their colleagues suffered a serious medical episode, leaving them one vote short of a majority with a Supreme Court confirmation vote on the horizon.

Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York and the majority leader, was assuring senators from the floor that Mr. Luján was expected to make a full recovery and that in his absence, “the U.S. Senate will continue to move forward in carrying out its business.”

A senior aide to Mr. Luján said on Wednesday that he remained in the hospital, was recuperating well and would return in four to six weeks barring complications.

But Mr. Luján’s condition was a stark reminder that Senate Democrats — who serve in an institution where nearly half of all members are over the age of 65 — are never more than one sudden illness away from losing their working majority.

“That’s just what we live with every day in a 50-50 Senate,” said Senator Debbie Stabenow, Democrat of Michigan. “We are all human beings, and something can happen to someone at any time.”

Supreme Court Nominations Not the Key Issue

Supreme Court nominations are not the main issue. President Biden has not made a nomination yet, and that process could drag on for weeks anyway. 

Ultimately, I expect some Republicans will go along with Biden’s pick if for no other reason than to claim bipartisanship.

Meanwhile, however, Build Back Better is sidelined for at least another month. 

Manchin has indicated he wants to tackle the Electoral Count Act first. How long will that take?

Most Urgent Thing

“There’s a lot of conversations going on, they’ve been reaching out. We haven’t sat down physically and started any negotiations,” Mr. Manchin said on Thursday. “I think taking care of our voting and protecting our right to vote and protecting the ballot box is the most important, urgent thing we have right now.

The above snip from the Wall Street Journal, emphasis mine.

President Trump Back in the Picture

Former president Trump has further intensified the need to address the Electoral Count Act,

Trump still insists that former Vice President Mike Pence could have decided the election. Pence and Trump are sparring over the issue.

Pence again stands up to Trump, despite the potential political cost.

Please consider Mike Pence’s Constitution

The former Vice President defended himself against Donald Trump’s charge that Mr. Pence could have overruled state electoral vote tallies on Jan. 6, 2021 at the Capitol. Mr. Pence was presiding over the vote counting as President of the Senate, but he refused Mr. Trump’s pressure to disqualify electors from some closely contested states. It was Mr. Pence’s finest hour.

But Mr. Trump won’t let it die, and last week he claimed again that Mr. Pence could have overturned the election, all but admitting that he hoped to use the gambit to stay in power. Speaking Friday to the Federalist Society in Florida, Mr. Pence rebutted Mr. Trump.

“I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong,” Mr. Pence said. “The Presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”

Mr. Pence explained that his decision was rooted in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. He rightly pointed out that the Founders were skeptical of concentrated power, which is why they created the Electoral College and gave states the authority to choose electors. The only power they gave Congress regarding the electoral tally is counting and certifying the votes. The Vice President’s role is ceremonial in presiding over that counting.

Mr. Trump claims that Congress’s current talks to rewrite the Electoral Count Act of 1887 show Mr. Pence had the power to overturn electoral votes. But Congress isn’t debating this law because it agrees with Mr. Trump’s mistaken interpretation of what we and many others believe is an unconstitutional statute. The Members want to make sure that no one can pull Mr. Trump’s stunt again and misread the Electoral Count Act to use Congress and the Vice President to overturn an election despite losing in November.

This threat is bipartisan, by the way. After the 2004 election Barbara Boxer, then a California Senator, joined a House colleague in objecting to electors from Ohio, the decisive state that year. This forced votes in both chambers, which failed. The next time they lose a close election, Democrats aren’t likely to be as ham-handed as Mr. Trump and his allies were after 2020.

Pence understands the risks while Trump cannot let go of the idea that he lost. 

“I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election. President Trump is wrong,” Mr. Pence said. “The Presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”

Pence is Correct 

Trump is delusional if he believes Pence could have decided the election.

There is no doubt, none, that Pence is correct. It is great to see someone of his stature and importance stand up to the former president.

This is yet another reason why Republicans should abandon Trump. He is not good for the party or the nation.  

That is not to say everything Trump did was wrong or even mostly wrong. Every issue needs to be discussed on its own merits, not on partisan politics. 

I have praised and criticized presidents George Bush, Barrack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden.

The current and former presidents are neither all good nor all bad. Unfortunately, any criticism of the sitting president brings out cat calls from the partisan players. 

I have been accused of being extreme Right wing and extreme Left wing, days apart! That is the sad nature of US politics at the moment.

Complicating Senate Math 

Returning to the Issue of Build Back Better, Trump highlighted the necessity of tackling the Electoral Count Act first as Manchin wants to do.

But with Senator Ben Ray Luján sidelined four to six weeks, Democrats either need to abandon their goals or wait for Luján to return.

There will be many bipartisan votes for reform despite Trump’s wishes. But without Luján, Democrats cannot hope for any of the voting rights idea they seek.

Will Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer wait? 

Certainly Senator Elizabeth Warren and the Progressives will push that direction.

Yet, it’s not even clear what the Democrats can accomplish with Luján. That will depend on what Senator’s Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema will go along with.

This could easily drag on for months.

2022 Congressional Calendar

2022 Congressional Calendar courtesy of Rational360.Com.

Stall Ball

It’s safe to write off the month of February due to Senator Ben Ray Luján. 

Meanwhile, it’s difficult to say whether Schumer waits for Luján or lets republicans control the Electoral Count Act.

If the latter, Build Back Better changes can easily slip into the month of May. 

And there is no guarantee Luján will return in four to six weeks. 

Look for Republicans to play “stall ball” for as long as they can. 

Schumer might unwittingly help if he hold up reform of the Electoral Count Act, hoping for something more than Manchin or Sinema will go along with.

Democrats Finally Reach Out to Manchin, Is it Too Late?

On January 30, 2022, I commented Democrats Finally Reach Out to Manchin, Is it Too Late?

I am rooting for the clock to expire. Build Back Better is fatally flawed.

Tick tock!

This post originally appeared at MishTalk.Com

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shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
Isn’t community college already pretty much free?  Pell grants are $5k a year I think and cc tuition is less than that.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
It’s only “free” in the same sense that a decaying shack somehow “makes” you money: Someone else is paying for the trivially  childish illusion.
Basic arithmetic obviously isn’t being taught in community college anymore, though. Seeing as it’s downright un-American, in an era when all that is left of once-was America, is braindead idiots cheering for Dear Leader to force “someone else” to pay.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Speaking frankly not everything Warren proposes is all bad. Breaking up tech monopolies would be a popular idea imo. She was first to advocate for that when running for the nomination in 2020.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Community college is one of the few parts of higher education that’s not broken. Why is our government focused on fixing it instead of the seriously broken 4 year institutions?
Trump needs to go away. He had his chance to be re-elected, but couldn’t refrain from being a complete j@ck a$$ during the first debate.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Because they are beneficiaries of debt slaves .
prumbly
prumbly
2 years ago
It’s a straw man to say that President Trump wanted Pence to ‘overturn the election’ and install him back on the throne. President Trump just wanted a fair election, with honest results. We should ALL want that.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
It isn’t a straw man at all, as that is exactly what Trump was doing on Jan 6. 
Yours is the straw man. You allege an unfair election. If it was unfair, then Trump’s own legal team would have deemed some evidence admissible in court. In the end they presented not one shred of evidence in court. You’re claiming that guilt is presumed by making your patently false claims. How can it be an unfair election if it cannot be proven in court? There, I’ve teed up your favorite flavor of conspiracy now just tell us which one you cling to.
prumbly
prumbly
2 years ago
Where’s your evidence that President Trump wanted Pence to overturn the election and put him back in power? 
And please make your evidence an actual DOCUMENTED QUOTE from the President, not some BS from CNN.  I think you can’t do it, because there is no such evidence.
ohno
ohno
2 years ago
Build back better? It would be easier to just stop being f…. ups.
Since2008
Since2008
2 years ago
In indiana, Pence’s home state, two years of college tuition are already free if you study to get a registered nursing license or study robotics or any one of several majors that are in high demand. Just google ivy tech and see for yourself.
Nobody cares though. They only want federal Democrat legislation.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
2 years ago
Reply to  Since2008
Washington State has the Running Start program. If your grades are good enough you can spend the last two years of high school at the community college and graduate with your HS diploma and an AA at the same time.  
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
2 years ago
Reply to  Since2008
I did not know that. Thank you for sharing.
BowserB46
BowserB46
2 years ago
Reply to  Since2008
What the socialist democrats never mention when they talk about “free college” in other countries, is that same approach.  You can go free if you have the secondary school grades, pursue a needed curriculum, get required college grades, and finish in the prescribed time.  That would have little appeal to the voters the dems want–you know, six years of partying to get a four year degree with a 2.1 GPA in a useless field–and then cry about $125,000 in college debt.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Since2008
Nothing is free. Stop it already. 
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
If college is free, you will get what you pay for.
As if there are not enough worthless “college degrees” out there already.
These people proposing this garbage are brain dead.
Doubling down on stupid.
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
While i agree with you, maybe i am wrong but you have to think about CC Colleges a little differently…..I see more real world job training there, trade skills,med professions other than just nursing……….And maybe 70% of the kids just first go to a CC to try to figure out what the hell the want to do and or are good at or not good at before mommy and daddy waste an extra $45,000 a year at a 4 year college
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  LPCONGAS99
Sure but why should you and I pay for someone’s kids to figure out what they want to do for a couple of years (the bill was including more than just college, it was also for room/board allowance too)? Shouldn’t they either work or have their mommy and daddy pay for it themselves while they figure out their life?
LPCONGAS99
LPCONGAS99
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
i agree with that. I should have explained myself better. I am against free as we all know nothing is free. I guess i meant we need to support community colleges more
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
I don’t want college to be free, but I sure wish it was cheap.
In my day, we could struggle and pay our own way, maybe with just a little help, or with the GI bill. Now college is a racket with a whole layer of mid-level management that colleges used to get by without, and there is also the foreign grad student scam that makes teaching college no longer a decent job. College has truly become a scam, compared to what it used to be.
prumbly
prumbly
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Community college is cheap. Around $5K per year, in state.
Corvinus
Corvinus
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I went to community college for the first 2 years and then transferred to UC to complete a B.S. The former had, for the most part, dedicated and approachable teachers who focused on getting their students to learn a subject. The UC had arrogant research professors who could care less about the undergrads and the breakout classes were “taught” in many cases by Chinese grad students who could barely speak intelligible English. In other cases the grad students who could speak english were learning to be as arrogant as the professors – I had one guy, an Italian, who said that he was really only interested in finding out who among the undergrads he’d like to work with in the future (i.e. who the ‘smart ones’ were) rather than actually “teach”. As a slightly older returning student with some life experience I was looking around at this situation thinking to myself “this is what I’m paying for? People with an entitlement complex that don’t even bother to do their job properly?” – it turned me against the higher education complex ever since.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“Pence understands the risks while Trump cannot let go of the idea that he lost.”
Where is the comprehensive forensic audit that proves that? Also, election rules were changed by other than state legislatures. Election meddling by Google, Facebook, Twitter. The rigging of who the presidential debate moderators were. All, Democrats from mainstream media. Couldn’t have stacked the deck better.
BowserB46
BowserB46
2 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
And the foxes hired to audit the henhouse are keeping up the lie.  Why hasn’t the MSM highlighted a simple fact–that the total vote is completely outside previous trends.  While the last few presidential elections show 2% or less increase in total vote from one election to the next, 2016 to 2020 was a 19% increase?  Nearly 25 million more citizens voted?  And of that increase, 10 million were votes for Trump.  Who really believes that 15 million more citizens voted for Biden in 2020 than voted for Hillary in 2016?  Note Hillary got within 50k votes in 2016 of Obama in 2012.
And that, my friends, is why I do not believe the election was on the level, and the refusal of our so-called elected government to preserve election integrity in our nation, suggests that America is already dead and just hasn’t been buried yet.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“And frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American President.”
Zuckerbucks.
meepbobeep
meepbobeep
2 years ago
Seriously, if all that is left in BBB is removing the SALT cap I will laaaaaugh
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
Finally, some much needed gridlock.

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