Democrats Tax Cuts for the Wealthy in NY and NJ Spotlights Build Back Better Hypocrisy

Tax Plan Inflames Democratic Debate

House Democrats are in a fresh revolt over SALT. 

It’s a fine (hypocritic) time for it given they all voted for the Build Back Better build. 

BBB is now in the hands of the Senate where an Inflamed Discussion is taking place. 

House passage of Democrats’ $2 trillion education, healthcare and climate package has inflamed an intraparty debate about whether the bill gives overly-generous tax benefits to high-income Americans.

At the center of the dispute is the House plan to raise the $10,000 cap on the deduction for state and local taxes to $80,000 through 2030. A small but committed group of lawmakers from high-tax states like New York and New Jersey have for years insisted on repealing the $10,000 cap, which Republicans put into place as part of the 2017 tax law.

“I think it’s bad politics, it’s bad policy,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) said to reporters. “The Democrats correctly have campaigned on the understanding that amidst massive income and wealth inequality, we’ve got to demand that the wealthy start paying their fair share of taxes, not give them more tax breaks.”

Setting the tax-deduction cap at $80,000 without an income limit means that its benefit goes to even the highest-income households, who all would save $25,900 more in taxes than they do under current law. Nearly one-third of the benefit of that $80,000 cap would go to the top 1% of households, according to the Tax Policy Center.

The inclusion of the higher state and local tax deduction, or SALT, cap means the bill overall would provide a net tax cut to many wealthy households. According to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, more than two-thirds of households with income over $1 million would get a tax cut in 2022.

One Non-Hypocrite

The only Democrat non-hypocrite in the House (on this issue) is Rep. Jared Golden of Maine.

Golden voted against BBB, criticizing its “tax giveaways to millionaires.”

Lie of the Day

In the lie of the day, Pelosi presented this feeble excuse “This isn’t about who gets a tax cut, it’s about which states get the revenue that they need in order to meet the needs of the people, and that is a fight that I will continue to make.”

Pelosi was a late supporter of the break for millionaires when she discovered she needed votes of Democrats in NY and NJ to pass BBB. 

Senator Michael Bennett Chimes In

Senator Bennett is a Democrat from Colorado. 

Question of the Day

https://twitter.com/carney/status/1461933122384281607

Ok Bernie where do you stand? 

There is no way he will vote against BBB but he will likely lower the deduction to a number that gives something like 50% of the benefit to the wealthy instead of 70%.

Meanwhile, the House Progressive Caucus Group of about 100 hypocrites silently hopes the Senate does their dirty work for them (raise taxes on the wealthy in NY and NJ).

No matter what amendments pass the Senate, it is nearly certain the House will approve them. 

Four Changes to Expect

  • Reduction but not elimination of SALT change.
  • Immigration reform goes out the Window. It’s a nonbudget item and against Reconciliation rules.
  • Manchin will remove the provision that Electric Vehicle credits go to unions only (assuming the Senate parliamentarian does not remove that provision first as a non-budget item).
  • Manchin wants any extension of the Child Tax Credit (CTC) to include a “firm” work requirement and be limited to parents with “family income” of about $60,000 or less. 

There will be other changes too, but I have no idea what they will be. Something always comes up.  

Manchin could easily kill the whole thing. Sensible people hope he does. 

Instead, expect some tinkering around the edges. That tinkering is likely to reduce the CBO cost estimate to a fully paid $1.5 trillion package. 

But at least credit Manchin that we do not see an immediate $4 trillion monstrosity. It will now only be an immediate $1.5 trillion monstrosity.

Who Has the Courage?

The lower monstrosity only sticks if Republicans get control of at least one branch of government and they then really do let the temporary entitlement programs expire.

In practice, entitlement programs have never before been cut. Perhaps it’s different this time. 

For related discussion, please consider Profiles in Non-Courage

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Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Pretty good odds Chile goes socialist today.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Well, even if they win, the corporatists of the world will help stage a coup in the next few months.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I doubt that.
To me, it’s just indicative of a changing world, where people everywhere are asking more and more for some benevolent authority to do things for them that they can’t do for themselves……but they don’t realize a government that big takes more than it gives, and that the people deciding who to take from, and who to give to….are also humans, with human frailties and their own agendas.
It sounds good in theory, but in practice it never works.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
South America is rife with instances of such coups:  link to en.wikipedia.org
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Martin Armstrong: “This is the systematic decline and fall of Western Civilization and we
will not be able to reverse this trend. We will simply have to crash and
burn and the fight will be what kind of government we end up with
post-2032.”
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
You want hypocrisy? This year the White House pardoned two WHITE turkeys. No BLACK turkeys. Apparently, black turkey lives do not matter.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
I’m still not moving back to NY if SALT is increased. SALT deductions only encourage local politicians to tax recklessly.
Steve_R
Steve_R
2 years ago
The left or right means very little to me when there are larger problems this country faces. Here is a video to remind us all of the problem we face.
The fed is out of control and has no way back.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve_R
There are ways back, but it would mean slashing government, a national sales tax to pay back the deficit as bonds mature, limits on gov’t spending…
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
It would specifically NOT mean “a national sales tax.” Nor ay more taxes than there already are. Instead, it would mean less of them. Specifically no income taxes.
Also, it would also, just as specifically, mean to NOT be “paying back the deficit (I’m assuming you mean the debt).” As long as government debt gets reliably paid back, government can, hence will, continue to grow. Not get slashed. After all, if people know they’ll be paid back they’ll continue to lend.
What is needed, is for government to get slashed. Debt to be defaulted on. Which will also solve the “deficit problem” the only way it will ever get solved. Not more taxes, especially not activity ones which no legitimate government has any business knowing enough about people to be able to levvy in the first place. And certainly not taxes raised specifically to reward the very clowns who handed government the money it used to grow to such a grotesque size to begin with.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
2 years ago
Well, “tax cuts for the rich” always sounds bad, but it’s also synonymous with “the rich pay the taxes”, which describes the US. In the US, any tax cut is a “tax cut for the rich”.
“Rich”, of course, being those who have (if we’re old) or who make (if we’re young) more than I do. Or you do, if we’re talking your “rich”.
But, NY/NJ? What about CA? It seems likely that CA would have a representative or two with an incentive to help the “rich” take a bigger state-tax deduction.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
It *is* tax cuts for the rich.   The Federal income tax is about the only progressive tax that we have today.   Almost all other taxes are regressive.  
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
And the debasement tax, levied by the Fed, simultaneously makes up the vast majority of effective taxation, and is as regressive as they come. If you ended The Fed, like us literate people have been banging on about since about forever, the “wealth gap” would be cut into a tiny fraction of its current size virtually overnight.
And if you decided to really double down on this literacy thingy; and beat back, in aggregate although unfortunately not in detail, the century of aggressive Fed redistribution from productive working classes to useless banksters which is about the sole and only reason we have much of a “wealth gap” to begin with; by reaffirming the dollar at $20/oz, there pretty much wouldn’t be any wealth gap at all.
But, I’m sure it running around playing nonsense-peddling “activists” babbling endlessly on about government-this-and-corporations-that before joining daddy’s law firm or some lobbyist racket; none of which will ever accomplish anything whatsoever, will continue to remain infinitely more popular among the not so literate usual suspects. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
All states will soon need the SALT cap to go up the way real estate prices are going. The states that have no state income tax won’t be able to hold down spending forever to meet the needs of rampant growth. 
The real problem with Democrats like Bernie is they are limousine liberals when it comes down to it. If Bernie believed in higher taxes he would pay more himself and not take any deductions. Bernie is rich by any standard. 
Like most things, this is really story of billionaires fighting millionaires with neither having actual regard for anything else.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Wow, you discovered *today* that the DONORcrats are pro-rich, and that the progressives are getting kicked around to end up meekly voting for whatever the DONORcrat establishment wants??!!   LOL
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
are you trying to get banned?
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Why is that grounds for a ban?  I only told that it proves what I said before that the DONORcrats are right-wingers.   Is that a crime?!
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Wow, you discovered *today*
Mocking me 
No I did not discover this TODAY
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Well, you do say that the DONORcrats are socialists etc.   I only wish that was true!    The party abandoned the working class more than a generation ago.   The seminal book that explains this very well is historian Thomas Frank’s “Listen, liberal”.    This is not my grandfather’s or even my father’s Democratic Party.  
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
News for you as you spin your lies–all donorcrats are not right-wingers. Do your research and you will be very surprised where the majority of large donor money goes to. While researching, you might also look at the political agenda of the Bilderberg Group.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I regard the left-right spectrum to be entirely on economic issues, and consider the liberal-(social)moderate-authoritarian spectrum to be orthogonal to that.   So, a Wall Street bankster who supports gay marriage does not belong to the “left”.   He would  be a socially liberal right-winger.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
2 years ago
Once Nixon eliminated the Periodic Chart (God made that), as the foundation of money, the baser elements rose to the top.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
exactly

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