BREAKING: L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti announces he is authorizing the city to shut off water and power to any houses or businesses that are hosting any parties or unauthorized large gatherings. It will begin Friday night, and LAPD will respond, then contact DWP to cut it off @FOXLA
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) August 6, 2020
Eric Garcetti announces he is authorizing the city to shut off water and power to any houses or businesses that are hosting any parties or unauthorized large gatherings. It will begin Friday night, and LAPD will respond, then contact DWP to cut it off
Our anchor @Elex_Michaelson asked Mayor Garcetti about the legality of this. Garcetti responded that these gatherings are breaking the law. He says this decision is “rooted in strong law” after consultation w/ city attorneys. “We know we can do this,” he says. @FOXLA
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) August 6, 2020
Questions Abound
- What if the house is rented?
- How are people supposed to wash their hands?
- Is this even legal?
- What if there is a fire?
Mish
Don’t Hold Parties in LA or the Mayor May Shut Off Your Water
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UP here in Canada, we watch you crazy Americans and wonder! We wonder, were you always that crazy? Is this a new thing, then again you elected Trump. so really we should not be surprised.
The idea of walking into a store without a mask is not even reasonable here. No one does (well there are always one or two crazies…its not an American monopoly), they are considered socially deviant for not wearing a mask.
Alberta ordered 40 million masks. for a population of 4 million. Quebec, Ontario no one questions that simple inconvenience. Sure the young one party, and exceed the allowed numbers, but they cops show up and hand out $700 fines.
At the end of the dayI always wonder is this a media bullshit story, when in fact the vast majority of Americans seems ok with wearing masks?
Sucks to be you
Yale epidemiology professor Dr. Harvey Risch said that 75,000 to 100,000 lives could be saved if hydroxychloroquine was widely used. These L.A. parties shouldn’t even be an issue, and wouldn’t be except for the overtly political and media attack on a particular drug.
THE DRUG DOESN’T WORK FOR COVID, AND HAS HORRIBLE SIDE EFFECTS.
Stop with the conspiracy horseshit already.
You couldn’t fit “herd immunity” into that comment?
Ron, the studies finding no effectiveness are wrong?
The studies finding no effectiveness were designed to find no effectiveness, either by omitting the use of zinc or starting to administer the drug way too long after symptoms were first noticed. Studies that followed the proper protocol (+zinc and administer as early as possible after symptom onset) have shown significant effectiveness.
And talk of “horrible side effects” is nothing but a propaganda joke … HCQ has been used for decades and has been one of the safest drugs with minimal side effects during that time. There are a few very specific contra-indications that advise against its use but they are not widespread among prospective candidates for its use.
“Don’t Hold Parties in LA or the Mayor May Shut Off Your Water.”
Don’t pay your taxes in LA or the Mayor will throw you in jail. And if you resist, he’ll kill you.
This is noteworthy?
This is how they party in my neighborhood in Portland last night: link to koin.com
Was the mayor with the rioters?
Wheeler did have some harsh words for the “protestors” the next day (yesterday).
The “very tough rioter” cosplayers made a second go at the same police station last night, but police pushed them back sooner and harder.
This was after two grandmas, I kid you not, confronted the babies right in front of the station. Check out the Andy Ngo videos on Twitter from last night. A grandma in a walker went down there with a fire extinguisher and put out a fire.
A few dozen cosplayers walked right in front of my house Wednesday night after police pushed them off the artery, and someone punched their keys into my car leaving a couple of nice new scratches.
These “protestors” are so dumb they make the Weathermen look like storied philosophers.
There seems to be no limit to what can be ordered under so-called health orders. This is dystopian. The power & reach of health orders needs to be reconsidered. Do we really want a health order to wield so much power?
Governors are lovin’ exercising all these unexpected powers.
I know it’s wrong.
Given a moment for rational thought, I would not agree with myself…
But my immediate reaction to the question “What if there is a fire?” was ‘Good Riddance’.
Well it does look like a lot of Black people in that party. Hee hee.
The people in that party are not going to change their social behavior because power and water get cut to that house. They are going to have a party on the lawn with propane BBQ’s, bottled drinks, and a Porta-Potty if they have to. Further, they are not going to change their behavior unless law enforcement makes them, and that is simply not worth the effort, legal issues aside.
There is a lesson here. Government should not be paying the bill for medical care for a person to recover from COVID-19. The rest will take care of itself. People can choose to participate in risky activity if they want to, and if they do then they can suffer the consequences if they are unlucky. The only things government should do is give the best safety guidelines it can and help ensure readily available care at a fair cost (i.e. help relieve capacity constraints), so people can obtain and pay for care if needed. It’s that simple.
Want to tell that analogy to all of the AIDS patients? I’m gonna guess the Anti-Gay Defamation League might want to give you a visit
I think you misread what I wrote. I said it is not worth it for government to try and force a certain social behavior through law enforcement. It should keep them informed and ensure availability of help if they need it, but people should be responsible for themselves when it comes to the consequences of their actions.
You have a serious issue threatening me for that remark.
Where they gonna pee?
Gov should have from the start financed massive testing and contact tracing and isolating of actually contagious individuals, who are an objective threat to everybody else’s lives and freedom. Would have been orders of magnitude cheaper than what has happened. But US gov failed spectacularly. Now we are in an impossible situation which amounts to: everybody stay home as much as possible for months and possibly years if you don’t want to catch this.
It’s incredible how dysfunctional this society has become.
All they had to do is hang a BLM banner off one of the balconies and they would have been left alone.
“Is this even legal? “
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details, details … always with the details …
Beyond Covid, the gang related shooting of 3 people (one dead) at the party, probably has something to do with the new policy.
That’s 3 less people that can get or transmit CV19!
Can we just calm down? If two young people are within 6’ without a mask and they both know and consent to the risk, it’s their right, let them be. We were young once. Should we outlaw kissing on the first date too? And 2nd and 3rd? Heck by the time you find out they’re a bad kisser your too far in.
The quicker we achieve heard immunity on the backs of the less vulnerable, the better. Us older folks know the young and already protect ourselves from them.
Great idea! You should run right out an get yourself infected.
You are correct. Myself, I have been living as mask-free and care-free as possible. If a store absolutely requires one, I put it on at the door and take it off at the exit. I’ve accepted the fact that odds are, at some point, I will catch the WuFlu and that it’s overwhelmingly likely I will survive it. If everyone had my mentality, everything would be open and the economy would be healing.
You’re holding us back. Get out there and be proactive about getting infected. Lick those toilet seats!
Unless you live as hermit, sealed off from the remainder of the population, it’s not just your own perfectly self-centered life you could affect?
By the way, herd immunity of 60 to 70% is a long way off. Some places in the country have had very few cases, other places have had perhaps 10% of the population exposed.
At the very least, 6 times the cases, 6 times the deaths, 6 times the long-term effects.
Are you ready for that?
Or doesn’t that matter to you?
The data suggests herd immunity is about 15-20%, all over the planet countries that “let it burn” by choice or necessity, lack of policy/infrastructure, have the same results, massive infection rate with deaths almost exclusively in the elderly / immunocompromised and a steady, consistent drop in Cases and deaths. There is only a prolonging of the “burn” with lockdowns.
But I know you’ll argue otherwise so I’ll leave you with this…remember this post.
Doesn’t matter and I don’t care.
“….Doesn’t matter and I don’t care….”
That’s a good toddler response.
Thanks for the info on your life.
It’s very rude and impractical to ask high risk individuals to coccoon for their own good. Instead we have to lock the kids up at home and threaten everyone with further total lockdown. Gotta be fair!
You are ignoring potential health factors for even asymptomatic people. Total lockdown not necessary if folks acted responsibly around their fellow citizens.
No one has yet proved asymptomatic transmission in a laboratory. I challenge you to produce any such peer-reviewed study for all our enlightenment.
I didn’t say anything about transmission. A few weeks back I posted a Time article that revisited some positives from Diamond Princess. Iirc, there were 300+ passengers who tested positive but no symptoms. A few months later they examined some 70 or so of the asymptomatic passengers. Half of them had some sort of organ damage / ailments.
And all of them were probably over 70 with multiple comorbidites.
You’re obviously not aware of why such study will never happen. It is unethical to recruit volunteers to be exposed to Covid in a laboratory to confirm or deny asymptomatic transmission. We have to rely on real world experience. Rest assured, you’ll be able to continue to spout this nonsense because you’re obviously clueless about the ethical limitations of scientific research and readily deny real world experience.
Ppl definitely being irresponsible, I don’t know why ppl are going to cafes and bars. Foolish. Government controls tend to encourage self-irresponsibility, because if mommy government doesn’t tell me I can’t do it then it must be safe.
I’m glad I don’t live in L.A. County, I have a birthday party to go to this weekend. (My friends wouldn’t call off a party over this WuFlu anyway).
I was in L.A. County last week, and the attitude is quite different from the Inland Empire. In the IE, the bars and indoor malls are closed. Honestly that’s about it.
I had lunch in Burbank, and it was a ghost town. They closed off the downtown streets to move all the restaurant tables outside, but it wasn’t that busy. Then I found out why. There is NOT a restroom open ANYWHERE! Every restaurant, Starbucks, Yogurtland, gas station, etc had their restroom closed. How are you supposed to wash your hands in “virus times” with closed restrooms? We also did not find this out until after we enjoyed the “50% off beer and sake” special. Later out of desperation, we pulled into a random laundromat and luckily were able to relieve ourselves there.
Los Angeles County is an epicenter of problems. The nazi-like handling of the virus situation, the horrible politics, the homeless, etc. Life and the climate are pretty good if you live out off the 15 freeway like I do, but my goodness Los Angeles is an atrocious place.
Meh. I grew up in the Inland Empire, and live in LA now, and they’ve BOTH got issues – but LA has beaches, entertainment and jobs, whereas IE has? meth I guess. Lots and lots of meth…
Iowa has meth. The IE has a lot of normal suburbia and more entertainment than Iowa.
Norco’s super-nice now that they turned the dairy farms into housing tracts.
The only winners will be the lawyers
As always.
They/you can’t stop this virus so you/we may as well learn to live with it, get on with life. It’s just the reality of this situation, doesn’t matter if you agree or not. This has been clear for months.
… except in New Zealand, where they havent had a case in weeks.
Yep, and they can’t leave or anyone come in to their country. If it’s an emergency and you do leave and return it’s 14 days quarantined in a government facility by yourself with no family members or visitors whether you test positive or not. Folks over there are NOT happy with their leaders. Be careful of what you wish!
Very good, you’ve adopted the Trumpian view. Hurrah fr you.
“I will accelerate illness and death in service of re-election–it is what it is–everyone will die someday.”
Let’s pretend no-one could have planned for a pandemic, no-one could develop science-based response and policies in the 7 months that it has been clear that the pandemic was on its way.
Let’s put our blinkers on and plod our way through illness and deaths.
After all, that is how you “Keep America Great”.
“They/you can’t stop this virus so you/we may as well learn to live with it,”
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Hogwash.
If US Government made a commitment – MONTHS AGO – for expanded testing … and just as important quicker turn around time on results … better containment possible.
Instead, we have a POTUS fighting science at every turn.
Pathetic.
Oh brother. The best the left can come up with is insufficient early testing. And you think that’s a scientific reason for why containment failed.
“The best the left can come up with is insufficient early testing.”
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It is not a “left” issue. More like common sense.
Pray tell … why does White House have MANDATORY random testing? And anyone near DJT regularly tested?
POTUS needs to Man Up and surround himself with untested people … like the rest of us.
So you honestly think that their going to find a total cure for Covid… The common cold and the flu have been around for 100’s of years.. expanded testing ain’t gonna do diddly!
“So you honestly think that their going to find a total cure for Covid.”
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Your reading comprehension skills poor.
Nowhere did I say that.
Woulda, shoulda, coulda ain’t going to get you anywhere.
Not surprised.
Ha ha ha. The virus is going to spread no matter what the authorities try to do to stop it. People gonna do what they are gonna do.
Georgia school principal suspended the student who posted video of crowded hallway of maskless students
On what basis? This should be good….
It’s a public health emergency. They should be arresting people more. A couple got arrested in Florida after being told to quarantine.
Sure but they don’t want to further unleash CV19 on prisoners, so they are letting them out of jail. How do you arrest someone for a CV19 violation and then be forced to immediately release them? Welcome to Bizarro World.
Arresting them is easy. So long as you’re willing to increase funding to the police to handle the extra calls. Might not be politically feasible this month, but who knows which way the wind will blow next month?
Charging, prosecuting and convicting them for breaking non-existent laws while they’re arguing their Constitutional right to peacefully assemble… not much of a winning game plan there. Most of these states are using emergency orders and multiple months of those won’t hold up well in courts (if they go on that long, courts will expect laws passed).
Meanwhile your neighboring red state has no such restrictions and your blue state can’t legally restrict interstate commerce (HA/FL/NY tried but that won’t hold up if challenged), so your heavy use of law enforcement to stop the virus is even more futile.
TOTAL CONTROL ! The way of things to come….with or without Covid !
Oh god, I just finished excoriating you about the situation in Ukraine and now I am forced to agree with you.
But, I suppose I can say it is like a clock being right twice per day. 🙂
The reality is that even once the covid numbers go down they will be able to justify controlling our behaviors and such things as public space capacity as a preventative measure in the name of public health. It is quite literally divide and conquer.
And it extends their control into other aspects of life, such as smoking, they will feel justified to take any action against tobacco users as a threat to public health. Or, people who do not believe in other “science” like warming. Deeming that crisis to be a threat they will now be able to do whatever it takes to shut those up who disagree. Probably the only public health emergency they will never address is obesity because those manipulating the levers of power are themselves so freaking fat. That will somehow remain a personal decision. But, even then anyone reporting obesity related health problems can and will be put on strict weight loss programs, driving the insulin market underground. I can just see fatso trying to buy Mexican horse insulin off of Carlos M. out of the trunk of his car so to keep their health issues secret thus avoiding being put on a diet.
Don’t worry, your right to sit in front of a computer and spew gibberish shall not be infringed.
OH puh-leeze. Stupid Canadians!
Belgium is #1 in deaths per capita. But go on.
I am not a chauvinist so I don t care what you say or think about Belgium, but why didn t you bother to check the reason for so many Cdeaths in Belgium, a country with one of the best health systems on the planet? The REASON is simply because, unlike other countries, our virologists have also been counting Corona deaths OUTSIDE hospitals, among them many presumed, NOT CONFIRMED, corona victims …. That s why…..so, please don t repeat the same bs over and over again…