Trump threatens the EU with more tariffs. The EU has reacted in kind. 
EU to Halt Trade Deal with Trump
Yesterday, I commented Trump Hits European Nations With Tariffs Until Deal Reached to Buy Greenland
If you need another reason IEEPA tariffs are idiocy, you have one.
Here’s the full blown reaction.
Bloomberg reports EU Set to Halt US Trade Deal Over Trump’s New Tariff Threat
European Union lawmakers are poised to halt approval of the EU’s trade deal with the US over President Donald Trump’s vow to impose tariffs on countries that supported Greenland in the face of American threats.
Manfred Weber, president of the European People’s Party, the largest political group in the European Parliament, said on Saturday that agreement with the US is no longer possible.
“The EPP is in favor of the EU-US trade deal, but given Donald Trump’s threats regarding Greenland, approval is not possible at this stage,” Weber posted on social media. He added that the EU agreement to lower tariffs on “US products must be put on hold.”
If EPP lawmakers join left-leaning political groups, it’s likely they’ll have enough votes to delay or block approval.
A vocal faction of EU lawmakers have long railed against the agreement, arguing it was too lopsided in favor of the US. That anger has deepened as the US expanded a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum to hundreds of additional EU products after the July accord.
“It is clear that national sovereignty of any country needs to be respected by all partners of the trade deal,” Bernd Lange, the longtime chair of European Parliament’s trade committee who helps oversee the discussion on ratifying the trade deal, said in an interview this week.
Following Trump’s announcement Saturday, Lange posted on social media that work on implementing the trade accord with the US should be suspended until Trump’s threats ceased. He also called for the EU to use its anti-coercion instrument, the bloc’s most powerful retaliatory trade tool.
Per Clausen, a Danish MEP with The Left, gathered 30 signatures for a letter sent Wednesday to Parliament leaders urging them to “freeze” the trade deal “as long as claims for Greenland and threats are made by the US administration.”
“It would seem extremely strange if we were to enter into an agreement with the US now,” Clausen said in an interview. “This would be a clear signal that, from the EU’s side, we are prepared to use the instruments we now have vis-a-vis the US if they continue their aggression.”
Statement from Two US Senators
Senator Shaheen Senator Thom Tillis, co-chairs of the Senate NATO Observer Group, issued the below statement:
Tariffs as a Weapon
Trump is repeatedly using tariffs as a weapon, not as a trade matter.
At a minimum he did it to Brazil, India, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland.
NATO Treaty
By signed treaty, NATO countries are obliged to come to the defense of any other NATO country attacked.
They are obliged to protect Greenland from an invasion by the US.
Moreover, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland don’t have any say in the matter between Trump’s ignorant bluster.
The purchase of Greenland is a matter between the US, Denmark, and Greenland.
The irony is that had Trump not been such an ass, Greenland was on the verge of breaking away from Denmark.
Canada Takes a Stand
Canadian PM Mark Carney warned America by saying, “Our full partnership and obligations to Article 5 stand. We stand FULLY BEHIND them.” Canada will back Denmark on Greenland; this comes in response to U.S. plans of annexing Greenland.
Thank you Canada.
Trump Will Take Greenland the ‘Easy Way’ or the ‘Hard Way’ by Force
On January 10, 2026, I noted Trump Will Take Greenland the ‘Easy Way’ or the ‘Hard Way’ by Force
Let me put this politely: The brazenness and gall of this arrogant, ignorant ass is stunning.
Anyone calling Mish out for “TDS” when he is discussing things like this where Trump essentially sullies the USA’s history of behaving decently with out allies is just showcasing how partisan and short-sighted they are, and that’s being extremely charitable to those fools.
It’s funny how Europe and Canada have been occupied with the imminent Russian invasion that can never come when all along, they were buddy buddy and appeasing the US who turns out to be the real enemy. Russia and China must be laughing and rethinking strategies. Never interfere when your enemy is making a mistake.
We haven’t been your enemy since 1812.
Until Trump of course. He is your enemy. And now most of his cult are your enemies as well. Though at least you are not yet at the top of his enemies list.
It IS all bluster. “The Art of the Deal.”
He slaps those bitches first and then rapes them slowly and then withdraws his tiny dick before he ejaculates….and makes a total mess.
His sycophants are then tasked with cleaning up the Jizz.
Surely you can do better than that drivel. I was having breakfast!
All bluster eh? Would you say that his bloviating about “maybe we should not have elections” is more of that harmless boy’s talk? I think we know your honest answer, so don’t bother typing one out.
lol, it’s as though you have no memory of 2016 – 2020. Who do you think trump is?
wow, that escalated quickly.
“The brazenness and gall of this arrogant, ignorant ass is stunning.”
You calling him names isn’t going to stop him. Only impeachment will. And since many Democrats would likely want Greenland as part of the USA, despite any public statements to the contrary they make, there would likely not be enough votes to impeach over this issue.
JeffD with a timely “might makes right” argument. Atilla the Hun would be so proud
That won’t work either. But the belief that Trump is going to do this is asinine.
Trump is asinine. He will push it through, no matter the consequences.
TACOS for Tuesday anyone?
BTFD.
Let’s hold on there, pard’ner; we’re dealing with the Orange Kasparov… could this be 5D chess?
Outcomes:
a. the perennially weak and feeble Euros hand over G-land, Trump becomes the best acquirerer in chief since Jefferson bought the middle of the continent in 1803;
b. the Euros rebuff America’s best offer ever, appearing to selfishly thwart Golden Domeration et. al; well then time to scrap NATO that Cold War dinosaur. Most voters would be appalled that postage stamps like Latvia are even in NATO; why are there any treaty commitments to these weird gobbledygook speaking countries? Trump wins by pulling US military commitments back to his own hemisphere and figuring out what to do with the actual peer competitor threat: China.
EU could retaliate by not buying U. S. arms for a while. That would get everyone’s notice.
That would certainly get Russias attention. There goes Ukraine.
Ukraine is already gone. It was gone the moment Burger Boris, at the behest of the US, scuttled the deal brokered by Turkey between Russia and Ukraine, in April 2-0-2-2. Yes, 2022.
lol, yes, boris was forced to do all that has happened for the last 4 years. that’s some good gange.
Trump just proposed a $1.5 trillion military budget in 2027, a 50% increase from 2026 and more than all the other NATO countries military budgets combined. He does not need NATO to feed the Military Industrial Complex.
You misspelled “Selling all US Treasuries tomorrow”
I wish I could find a good insider-leaker’s account of what Trump thinks he’s doing in this manner. Is there some theoretical urgency? Is there some compelling argument why coordinated NATO basing action couldn’t diminish any Chinese peril? And why the schoolyard-thug approach to every goddamned issue?
For that matter, couldn’t the press pose reasonable questions? (Maybe they have and I’ve missed it.) But just as to style: Mr. President, aren’t you worried that your authoritarian style on many issues is setting the standard for the administration that follows yours–which may be run by leftist Dems?
There’s a weird “gotta-do-it-today” tone to everything–“today because there’s no tomorrow”?
What rational explanation could there be? One possibility I can imagine (I hope it’s just imagination) is that there’s persuasive intelligence that China is preparing for global war, starting with Taiwan with a strategy that includes everything if the West supports Taiwan.
On the economy, I suppose it could be a reasonable dread of a recession that rips the solvency-mask off.
I also wonder if the god-botherers of the Vance ilk aren’t getting a receptive ear–or at least finding an operating alliance–with their shrilling about the end of days of the U.S. as a “Christian nation.”
Whatever’s going on, I wonder what the next U.S. administration will look like. When things get bad, they tend to get worse.
You need to ask Stu. He is a specialist at dreaming up ways to justify whatever Trump is doing.
No, I’m wondering what Trump’s rationale is, not asking for empty rhetoric.
It is very difficult to imagine any rationale that justifies what Trump is doing.
His ego commands it. QED
And here is Stu’s rationale.
– Threatens to take Greenland, a NATO country, by military force > If Necessary, and we will, if China, Russia or the likes try to invade them.
Lol!
One theory is he’s trying to get people’s attention of the Epstein files so he’s coming up with a tempest in the teapot PER WEEK.
Idiots.
You know that Democrats and Republicans are the wings of the same albatross.
Yet, it’s Biden or Trump this and that.
They’re all the same shit.
The problem is, YOU are all the same shit.
You are all willing accomplices of the Freemasons, the Zionists, the Christian-hating Frankist Jews and their fellow takhiya practicing Muslims.
Keep digging your own collective grave.
You’re almost done.
Don’t forget to buy Nvidia and Microsoft tomorrow.
Oligarchs need to eat too.
Thanks Art. Appreciate your in-depth analysis.
What I really want to know is how YOU are dealing with this “uniparty freemason, zionist, christian-hating Frankist jews and their fellow practicing Muslims” reality.
You didn’t say what we SHOULD all be doing.
Maybe I can learn something from you.
i’m going to state, that in all crumbling empires there is one thing that most can transport a million or ten million quite easily in a brief case………..gold has outperformed the dow by about 3.5x since the 21st century began. i’m thinking it will outperform for the next 5 to 25 years in more drastic fashion.
You can’t do anything since you’re part of the problem hence you can’t be part of the solution.
For example, the easiest thing to do would be to vote ANYTHING BUT Democrat or Republican. But none of you are capable of taking this simple step to change the system because you are ALL Democrats or Republicans. You are all part of the problem. Imagine. Another party takes over and publishes all the Epstein files, throws in jail the Pentagon brass who can’t find trillions of taxpayer monies, and prosecutes all these AI companies that are committing the fraud of the century via circular accounting and fraudulent unsustainable-debt-fueled fake earnings reporting. Nvidia is worth more than Germany, isn’t it? How can a sane person swallow such horseshit? But you all do. Hence…
Excellent. Thank goodness you are here to set us all straight. You start the party. I will vote for you. Let me know when it’s running candidates.
BS all you want, insidious creature. Simple: vote for ANY party besides Ds or Rs. No new parties necessary. First, dismantle the status quo peacefully. Or suffer the consequences such as serving jews and muslims who hate Christians. LGBTQ are perfectly happy to have American women raped by foreign invaders whilst they’re watching your childrens’ throats slit by the same with glee.
You’re despicable.
No really. I’m serious here. You start the party and run candidates and I will guarantee to vote for you.
What’s your platform? Round up all the folks you hate; Jews, Muslims, LGBTQ etc
Maybe I will choose a different party.
NO, NOT EVERY ONE OF US.
I have not voted since Clinton.
Bud, word to the wise, stay off those substances.
Ad hominem BS is so zionist chic.
For the record Art Last, what kind of Christian are you, specifically?
For the record.
Man up or STFU.
POST IT RIGHT HERE…
WHICH KINE CHRISTIAN YOU BELONG TO.
Cut the crap. You’re just trying to change the subject. For your records: I’m certainly not an Israel-worshipping fake Christian like your kind. Read the Talmud (the supreme jewish authority) and see what it says about Christ. Read the quran (islam) and see what it says about Christians. One word: Barbara Lerner Spectre.
Gee I forgot to pull all those levers available to me that will bring about real change.
The need to keep the US onside for Ukraine rules out better penalties such as an asset freeze, visa ban and no over fly rights for the Trump family. Shame.
Sadly… If Greenland and Canada are fair game for the US?
Australia, New Zealand and Taiwan are fair game for China.
Trump lied that taking over Greenland was a joke, now he is serious.
The repercussions of Trumps arrogance are staggering!
Shakespeare back in 1602 wrote a famous line….”Though this be madness, yet there is method in’t.” Trump in 2026 might have a Method to his apparent Madness but most of us are unable to figure it out. Maybe it is unanswerable?
Dementia is the method.
Yeah distract you from the Epstein files, that’s the plan. I don’t think Trump goes any deeper than that
It’s a reasonable question that deserves better than the glib dumb-assery of some of the responses.
It’s gotta be his latest 5d chess maneuver. Or maybe he is just an idiot.
Perhaps he got a new chat gtp account and asked it how he can rule the world by November
2026?
Why does the Supreme Court refuse to slap down Donnie Demento’s promiscuous and blatantly illegal use of tariffs?
I sense a nasty surprise coming, similar to Trump vs. US that gave the president almost complete immunity from crimes committed while in office, and was timed to help Trump’s re-election chances.
The Court seems all in on its ridiculous “unitary executive theory” that has no constitutional basis, and seems intent on eliminating what few checks and balances remain in our “democratic” system of government.
This alone is a crucial reason to elect a Democratic majority in the Senate.
Correct. I highly doubt the US populace can actually achieve that. The current system of governance in the US is really vulnerable today. I am not sure it can survive much longer as a free country. We will be ruled by authoritarians going forward. I give checks and balances to survive a low chance, perhaps 25%.
US populate is too entrenched into red/blue divide. In any functioning democracy, the society will kick out the current bystanders that are letting this happen in the congress. That incumbent republicans can win even one seat in November is such a disgrace. I am not saying the Democrats are great but to let these bystanders who have completely abdicated their duty get reelected is such a shame. We get the government we deserve.
SC is no longer legitimate. This happens in all terminal authoritarian states and it is a symptom of late stage decline of democracy. Unfortunately, the US has reached that stage.
scotus codified torture. and the ndaa codified extra judicial executions of amerikan citizens. 9.11.01 was the beginning of the end of the empire. the height of the empire was 1945 to 1965, when LBJ defaulted on the silver coins………guns and butter……
All these nations that made trade deals with Trump just learned what they should have known from the beginning: a deal with the felon lasts until he feels like breaking it.
One thing I find interesting here the rhyming history – the UK tried appeasing Hitler despite what was happening and what was anticipated. So I won’t be surprised when people see what’s happening with ICE and Greenland, along with all the other power plays, and compare Trump with Hitler.
First they came for…..
As a EU subject, watching the accelerating deaths of the dystopian, satanist, globalist European Union (and their fucking Euro) and the criminal NATO is exciting and heartwarming and as an Italian in particular, after all they have done to us, watching the accelerating self-destruction of Perfidious Albion, France and Germany is pure delight.
ANDATE TUTTI A FARE IN CULO!
Pardon my English as always!
Only people who have no clue what is happening in EU can downvote you. I was born in USSR and lived through till its collapse. Then I lived in EU a little bit. EU is evil and it’s getting worst with every single day. I have rights to tell it because I can compare!!!
100%.
While I appreciate your posts, I believe that Trump is forcing Europe to become stronger, closer, more dynamic. Europe is reaching out and signing trade agreements with countries all over the world now. Similar to what happened in Canada, which had spent the last three decades deepening their integration with the US economy. Whoops.
The US does NOT want a “strong, close, dynamic” Europe. For a while, the EU had a bigger GDP than the US and thanks to its superior human capital (the same exact stock as OG Americans, i.e. actual Americans, but bigger and much less diluted by 3rd world trash) and Russia’s dirt cheap and reliable resources it was set to be an actual world competitor. That’s when US plans changed (the EU project, just like NATO, are Anglo-American creations) and they destroyed the foundation of it: access to the resources that we lack.
The US, in its declining phase, wants to deal with single, isolated European nations that it is interested in for geopolitical reasons (Italy, Poland and few others).
“Europe is reaching out and signing trade agreements with countries all over the world now. Similar to what happened in Canada, which had spent the last three decades deepening their integration with the US economy.“
That’s just the continuation of the globalists’ project which has deindustrialized, impoverished and WRECKED the West, the US included. This lastest MERCOSUR treaty, for example, took 25 years to sign because it is DEEPLY hated and contested in all of the remaining major countries which still have big and independent AND ESSENTIAL, EXISTENTIAL agricolture and farming sectors (France, Italy, Poland ecc).
It will wreak havoc on our already battered (by EU insane rules and regulations) agricolture and farming industry.
Yep. Trump does not “want” to make Europe stronger and more united; but he is doing so through his actions.
How any of his actions are making Europe stronger and more united??
Just look at how many of the 27 EU members have sent their soldiers to Greenland… LMAO
Our deranged ruling elites are talking about halting trade deals and whatnot while the US has us by the balls since they are our main energy supplier… LMAO again
What a hopeless and terminal clown show.
My misunderstanding. I thought I was talking to someone rational. Please ignore everything I said and have a nice life.
I am going to, thank you. I don’t live anymore in Clown World.
Good luck to you with your delusions which are being dismantled day by day… (along with Mish’s)
i have italian and amerikan passports. was in Russia doing business in the1990s. i had as a client, an oligarch, he was, in politboro and on board of largest oil company. all my pals thought EU was undoable. so far, no world wars. ukraine situation was a CIA instigating in 2014 under obama and john mccain bellicosity. i think the USA will slowly and in most states just go back to pre 1865 set up. we’ll keep the country and give up the world wide empire……..the us state you live in will matter more than ever. back to the future. all empires end. most of them go back to their original states………like happened many times.
May I remind you that prior to the EU, Europeans massacred each other by the millions once every few decades. Perhaps you think this is preferable to the current situation?
False dichotomy. The EU has only been around for a few decades. Plenty of war is in the offing. They’ve been complicit in the weaponization of Ukraine and attempted weaponization of Belarus, Georgia, Armenia and Kazakhstan. They would claim that’s in pursuit of “democracy”, but the lie is given to that by their repressing democracy in Romania and elsewhere – barring the most popular candidates and parties. The empire tolerates democracy only when they get the results they want. The government of Iran was elected and they want to topple the government to install the son of the Shah. The EU is an arm of NATO. It’s not coincidence that they’re across the street from each other.
Thanks for the update from the Kremlin comrade!
Here is where you and many who think like you do get it all wrong. Democracies are not created equal. Russia has elections, so Russia is, by definition, a form of democracy. Hungary was a functioning Constitutional democracy until Orbán was elected and began changing election laws from the inside to perpetuate his rule. He also clamped down on the free press in Hungary to silence his critics. So, Hungary was a liberal democracy governed by the constitution, with the people freely expressing their opinions and having the opportunity to select their government and leaders in an equitable and fair manner. Orban has now been in power for well over 10 years. Democracies do not tend to die a sudden death; they are destroyed from within by a thousand cuts.
May I remind you that the EU(+UK) is furiously pushing us to open, direct war against the biggest nuclear superpower on Earth?
I believe that the EU is trying to prevent a war. Trump is the one who wants to start it by invading a NATO country.
Sorry but you are detached from reality…
The EU very clearly wants a war with Russia (but only if they are sure that they can drag the US in since they, in their utter madness, believe that they could win it in that case) and there will not be any war whatsoever if the US invades Greenland. The EU+UK are a wet paper tiger and on top of that they will do their best to appease the US because they desperately need it for their Ukraine failed all-in bet.
Okay. Thanks. Bye.
Yeah…
The US will get Greenland, the EU+UK will do fuck all about it, the EU+UK will go on trying to escalate with Russia only to eventually lose everything and collapse. The EU and NATO will die and the declining US will keep just a few important European “allies” (vassals).
You (and Mish) will be proved wrong on everything you said on this thread.
Ciao.
Well look at that! We agree.
The US will simply take Greenland because the EU is hesitant to go to war with them. Something I have repeatedly said.
Then Trump will take Canada.
NATO will die.
The EU might disintegrate.
Russia will start picking off European countries one by one.
Now you can stop being angry.
Be happy!
Your dream is coming true.
“because the EU is hesitant to go to war with them“
LMAO! The EU+UK are utterly unable to go to war with anybody save maybe for a few 4th world countries…
“The EU might disintegrate.”
The EU WILL disintegrate, and all of us Europeans will be greatly better off for it.
“Russian will start picking off European countries one by one.“
What do you mean by that? Russia has ZERO interest or need to come after any European country, we have basically NOTHING to offer them.
Some of us (the smartest ones) will realign with them and get again close to them (and closer than ever before) as opposed to the US (the only declining superpower among the three that are going to rule the world for the foreseeable future).
“Now you can stop being angry.“
I am not angry, I am elated!
All of my predictions (and indeed my “dreams”) are coming true sooner than expected!
Not that I am going to personally benefit from it. As I said, I have already gotten out of Dodge.
Excellent!
Again.
Have a nice life.
I think Papa is not looking at the bigger picture here. I have been watching the Ukraine situation for 12 years and it is clear that Russia cannot even dream of “picking off” any EU country. The lessons learned in Afghanistan and Ukraine will resonate in the armed forces. They can’t contain mickey mouse Ukraine yet they can occupy Europe? Give me a break.
The US was and is trying to bankrupt Russia in Ukraine and it’s failing.
Trump is also dreaming. His so-called 5D chess is nothing but narcissistic bluster. Trump is very good at is big dreams and surrounding himself with sycophants. He has no goals because that requires viable plans to reach them and he never offers any.
“Let me put this politely: The brazenness and gall of this arrogant, ignorant ass is stunning”……….The incentives in place by the US Judiciary during 2023 and 2024 to purposely delay Trumps Trials that would have put him in Jail, the supreme courts decision to make the president totally unaccountable for any action he does as long as he says in his mind that the action he is taking is in the interest of the American people, and the Republican Party and Republicans in Congress and Presidents cabinet are all guilty of providing no check on this presidenet, which explains perfectly his lust and brazenness for power and control is unlimited and abusive, but everyone around him is giving him the power and encouragement to continue to be America’s first actual dictatorial president. But what is most insidious, is the fact that president trump and the republican party are linked at the hip with the most powerful Tech, Auto industry and Energy industries, to not push back on Trump’s dictatorial and Russianification, as long as he agreed to kill Climate change in America and around the world, to maximize short term profits for energy, auto industry and tech companies, but at the expense of massive unemployment in America that will make the hallowing out of the middle class over the last 50 years due to globalization, look like a Sunday stroll through the park? The greatest con game in the history of the world is underway, and all these crazy distrations by trump is to keep Americans eyes off of what is really going on. Tech companies are not spending Trillion of dollars on AI, with a hope that they will get good returns on their investments………no this is and has all been worked out as part of project 2025, to take by force , control and stealing the American economy for the wealthiest 1% of Americans in America. This is why Trump is mandating no regulation on AI, so that global investors and corporate America can freely eliminate jobs with AI, not over the next 50 years, but over the next 2 – 4 years, all across America,creating sustained unemployment rates on the order of 20% to 40%…….creating crazy unGodly profits for Tech sector and energy sector, bankrupting the bottom 80% of Americans, and severely weakening America, creating levels of polarization, animus, hate and revenge that will make us an easy target for Russia/China to challenge and take over America economically and militarily. Sounds radically and stupidly crazy……….follow the money, follow the lust and desire to permanently control this country with little and no opposition, which is where this country is headed if we do not fight back with love, understanding and cooperative mutual action that supports a more perfect union for all Americans, not just the wealthiest 20%……….Have you seen Trump’s cabinet meetings………..its like watch a monarchy with all the kings men shamelessly and fraudulently worshipping Trumps every thought and whim…….but not because they love and respect him, they are doing this so that they can permanently win control of the US government and the American economy, right now by lying, manipulation and exploitation, but when Tech and Energy Industry, get total control of the economy they will force control America and American Economy to maximize the wealth of the wealthiest 10% of Americans at the expense and destruction of everyone else.
EU to halt trade deal… it sounds like it’s Trump that is blowing it up by imposing new tariffs outside the deal parameters.
another example of why you can’t make deals with Trump, because he will blow them up willy nilly as Mish has pointed out several times before.
Correct. One can never expect Trump to keep his word. He has demonstrated this many times in the last year. Which is why the rest of the world is focusing more on trade with each other, while ignoring the US.
It is very important to remember that all of the “trade deals” Trump says he signed are not legally binding. The President can cancel, amend, or ignore them at will because they are not Congressionally ratified treaties, unlike trade agreements in the past. The EU was foolish to take the bait in the first place, strike a deal with Trump, and move it through the EU Parliament for approval, even though the same was not happening in the U.S. All of these countries that signed “trade deals” with Trump should have taken the position that these deals are proposals until ratified by Congress.
The entire trade extortion process last year relied on maximum pressure through rhetorical coercion, and the rest of the world thought they could placate Trump by playing along. They were fools to think that Trump would take a victory and move on. By playing along and flattering him at the same time, they gave him permission to continue threatening and extorting them whenever a new disagreement arose.
It is time for the world to wake up and call B.S. on the whole trade/tariff sham.
The rest of the world understands this. Which is why so many countries are signing and ratifying trade agreements with each other. This is already expanding trade between them as they all look for alternatives to the US.
China’s exports are up significantly, even while trade with the US declines. The same goes for India.
Even the EU is getting its act together. After 25 years of negotiations, they got incented to finally sign trade agreements with S. American countries.
I believe that it is futile to play ball with Donald Trump. Let him do what he can do with his signature alone, but do not pretend that he speaks for Congress or the United States. Enter into trade negotiations, but make it perfectly clear that no deal goes forward until ratified by the appropriate legislative body on each side. What this would do is prevent him from declaring victory before any agreement becomes binding. It takes years to craft a real trade agreement because it needs to be a win-win, or it won’t get ratified.
The same applies to Greenland! Just ignore him. Don’t take the bait. He is not going to invade Greenland. Call his bluff!
Futile, but necessary. Trump is very vindictive. Countries have to play along with him or he will go after them. Hence tariff threats for even suggesting that Greenland remain independent.
Calling his “bluff” is a mistake. He is stupid enough to invade.
I don’t think so. Trump will always hang himself if you give him enough rope. He is a bully and thinks that he is smarter and “tougher” than anyone else. Once you stand up to him and don’t take the bait, he will lash out, and this is when he is his worst enemy.
I don’t disagree that he is extremely vindictive. In fact, I count on it.
This would be a delicious scenario! The armed forces refusing an unlawful order from the President to invade. Love it. The Supreme Court would have conniptions trying to figure that out. Bring it on.
Hey, I knew the economy was going to crash, and I am ready to suffer. This is what America voted for.
I find it infuriating that decent people who voted against Trump are going to be the ones responsible for repairing the damage. The moron Trump voters will never acknowledge shitting the bed and it’s decent Americans who will be left cleaning up the mess.
Trump’s objective regarding Greenland is all about the Golden Dome (GD) missile defense project. From a top-down view from the North Pole, one can see the strategy of a golden dome with Alaska to the west and Greenland to the east: such a missile defense system will provide total coverage of the continental United States.
Three decades of deferred nuclear modernization (nm) have created a crisis as legacy systems rapidly approach expiration. The nm task is large, and there isn’t enough time to complete everything, especially with an inadequate industrial base and skilled workforce.
I view Trump’s proposal with the Golden Dome as an act of desperation. In just 3 weeks, the New START treaty extension will expire. That means no more Arms control treaties restricting the number of nukes. I think the US (and the world) is in deep trouble.
Greenland would accept US military bases , including Trump’s Golden Dome. No need to threaten them.
I have yet to figure out why, he has not went this route? It would ease his fears of an attack, I’m guessing? It would probably morf into what he supposedly wishes for eventually…
He hasn’t gone that route because Greenland is a trophy that Trump wants. After that, he wants Canada as a trophy,
Good ol’ “slow on the draw” Stu still bumbling around trying to find justification. Hilarious
Serious “daddy beats me but I know he still loves me” energy
Golden Dome is a joke. The space based portion (SBI) will cost trillions to make it effective. This is because in order to get worldwide coverage (which is a GD goal), it will require thousands of space based interceptors to get worldwide coverage (this is basic physics of orbitology and rocket theory). This is because an SBI interceptor in Low Earth Orbit constellation can only cover a small patch of the Earth at any moment, so you need a huge constellation to be useful. The SBIs are short life (3-5 years) and 10s of millions of dollars each. So, in order to be credible, it would require a very costly (think Trillions) long-term investment to deploy and maintain an SBI constellation of thousands of interceptors.
If you want to do it land based, then you need to develop and build scores of ground based interceptor cites. If you try to do that in places like Greenland, good luck with that given the lack of infrastructure.
I know less about the ground based approach, but I worked the SBI portion for about three months and quit in disgust in December, since my perspective was that the Government acquisition team was just following direction and was in no position to tell the leadership that the approach was a glorified Potemkin village to build a facade before drumpf leaves office.
Getting Greenland for GD makes zero sense. Even if we ‘needed’ it for a ground based interceptor base, we would not have an issue getting Denmark and Greenland approval to build one.
The only bigger joke than GD is the Golden Fleet and the unobtanium based drumpf battleship, so I guess by comparison GD is better but that isn’t saying much.
Yep. A joke. But Trump wants it. Just like his Space Force.
I wish the Europeons well. No sarcasm. If they can create problems for the U.S. by ceasing trade, more power to them. Trump only acknowledges power not principles. In a way he’s just more honest and realistic than people like Ursula who thinks they can defeat Russia with chants. All of these machinations should teach a lesson to countries who consider themselves allies of the U.S. The US has no real allies except maybe – maybe – the UK and Israel. All alliances are entirely contingent.
Only so long as we live in Trump’s America. He is famously without principles and does not respect past agreements or norms. The majority of Americans do not support him or his campaign of scorched earth when it comes to American values, democratic principles, and the world order that has been honored and strengthened by every President between 1941 and 2016.
lol. Biden blew up Nordstream. Not just to stop the sale of Russian gas during the war that we instigated (since Germany had already ceased buying Russian gas), but to remove German autonomy and any possibility of their changing their minds. It had the ancillary benefits of increasing sale of American LNG and German companies moving production to the U.S. Obama spied on Merkel’s cell. Bossing around the Europeons is not solely a Trump era policy. They’ve been occupied since WWII. Germans have replied “thank you sir, may I have another”.
Nah he didn’t- he don’t know the difference between Nordtstream and Nordstrom (the hi end retailer down at the mall)
Maybe if you say that crazy shit enough times someone will believe it, lol
I am sure in your chosen alternative universe, these things are true. But in the real world, they are not.
Funnily enough I don’t feel like an ally of the US anymore, in fact I want to be as far away from it as possible , no offence to you personally.
What else would you expect from the self-proclaimed and unelected President/Dictator of Venezuela?
OT but a valid question. Anyone remember how often he was jabbed? And those still defending him? Holding your nose and voting Trump again certainly ok when the alternative was Biden/Harris, but now?
“over 70% of humanity received a neurotoxic COVID shot now linked to 146 serious brain, spinal cord, and psychiatric adverse events.
This explains the widespread collapse of common sense, deterioration of cognitive function, and drastic personality distortions seen since 2020.”
https://substack.com/@stopthoseshots
>667 million individual COVID vaccine injections were done on a population of ~335 million Americans. Look outside. All scientific evidence is they’re completely okay. Trump was vaccinated and boosted. In him you have one example of what you think the vaccine caused. No, he was that way before he was vaccinated and boosted.
Just for the statistics:
“As of December 1, 2025, the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program documented 14,046 total COVID-19 countermeasure claims, with 10,896 alleging injuries or deaths from vaccines. VAERS data remains the foundational official source, though it includes unverified reports and has faced scrutiny over processing capacity amid over 1.7 million COVID-related submissions.”
A percent or two vax injuries get reported, VAERS was “cleaned” several times, so multiply the official figures by 50 and there you have “they’re completely ok”.
Besides, “vaccine” misnomer, pure marketing to get the masses injected.
Dr. Francis Boyle, who authored the U.S. Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act, was murdered shortly before he was due to testify that the injections were designed as deadly “bioweapons.
Do your research.
Interesting spin here. Hope none of you have kids or grandchildren that live in one of these two dismal places..Or the UK, for matter.
If you’re being FORCIBLY injected with products you don’t want—no jab, no pay—you have the SAME RIGHTS AS A FARM ANIMAL!
Just like in Australia, where they tax your money, then dangle a little back if you comply with their vaccine demands for your kids (“No Jab, No Pay” still punishing families in 2026, withholding Family Tax Benefits and childcare subsidies unless fully vaxxed – no conscientious objections allowed). It’s coercion, plain and simple.
And here’s the brutal truth: If you don’t get to decide what goes into your children’s bodies, they are NOT your children. They’re state-owned, state-run property of the government. California does the same—stripping away education rights (which YOU pay taxes for) unless you inject on command, with only medical exemptions left after banning religious and personal ones years ago.
Every state pulling this? It’s challenging what it means to be a free nation. You are NOT free if the government can force injections into you or your kids!
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/del-bigtree-if-youre-being-forcibly?
The US Treasury auction last week was over $650 billion dollars and the 10 year yield was up to 4.24% which is the high yield going back to early September. There have been 2 rate cuts since then and thank you Mr Trump, the yield is up.
Our allies and trading partners are slowing down on buying our debt and our credit rating as a nation was downgraded again by Moody’s last May 19th from Aaa to Aa1.
I am on the watch for another credit downgrade as Trump pushes our trading partners away and threatens our closest neighbors and allies. We have unstable leadership and a president and mob of henchmen that support his every move.
Our trade deficit was down because so much gold and silver left for other nations and in particular China, India and The Middle East.
Who does Trump work for?
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This is just pure insanity. Threatening our allies to allow us to “buy” terriiry from over a European ally, after working out a trade deal in response to idiotic tariffs from a year ago.
it’s like he wakes up every morning and asks, “how can I make things more stupid”, and then finds a solution.
See. Trump has solutions.
The sarcasm is strong in you Sentient!
No, it’s actually worse. He has an entire team that does that for him and brings him ideas every morning.
The Department of Stupider.
Trump exemplies the Shakespeare quote, ‘methinks there is method to his madness’. He wants out of Europe and NATO but can’t simply leave so he poisons the whole relationship.
As for Greenland, it’s a frozen joke. So, 57,000 people is any sort of sovereign territory? There are better places to mine minerals. Who the heck would want to live and work there? It’s more “National Security” bullshit. It’s the US obsession with trying to control trade routes. Maybe the Russian fleet of nuclear powered icebreakers can clear a path for US warships, if they play nice.
Trump is more like Fredo than Hamlet.
You may be right, and that is why Congress needs to put a stop to this destructive insanity now.
Mish has been in a tizzy this last 363 days
As should everyone, based on how much damage is being done to our society, our institutions, and the world order that we built.
Greta and Al Gore should defend Greenland until the last of its ice melts.
Greenland’s ice has been melting at a rate of 250+ billion tons per year since 2002. However, even as that rate accelerates, it will still take over a thousand years to completely melt Greenland’s mile thick ice. The resources hidden underneath won’t be accessible soon.
The arctic sea routes are a different story. Arctic sea ice has been thinning and disappearing for several decades now, and soon the Arctic sea routes will be ice free in the summers. Which leads to more military and commercial ships using those waters, and opens up more resource exploitation.
Greenland becomes more important as the sea ice melts. However, we can still use Greenland for military installations without “owning” it. Greenland has always been ready to accept more US military bases.
livin in the past…
Ye gods, what’s happened to you America?
Back then I was asking myself: Will it stop at Grenada? Will it stop at Iraq? Will it stop at Afghanistan? Will it stop at Panama? I think the ideal time for all the NATO countries who are feeling threatened now, specially Denmark, to be asking these questions was back then.
Instead, Denmark sent troops to BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq. In all other cases, at best it looked away. Not a word of protest or pushback.
Tough when the imperialism you supported comes to bite you in the back.
For better or for worse, NATO is a relic from another era, back when the USA needed a coalition of developed nations to contain the USSR.
So they created a narrative around a fellowship of free, prosperous and politically equal white Western nations. Institutions like the NATO, WTO, the IMF and the World bank were put into place. A rules based global order was talked about constantly. Of course, the Global South was mostly excluded from “the club” and most quickly realized that the “rules based global order” only applied to them as punishment, never as a shield.
Then the cold war ended and it seems that it took 30 years for someone in the US (Stephen Miller?) to finally realize that this narrative had runs its course and served no purpose anymore . The world was a completely different place, the USSR was no more and Russia did not represent an existential threat to the United States. So in their logic, why keep this narrative? There was no longer any rationale to treat the other old, weak and technologically handicap Western nations as equals, and instead they should be put in their place.
I think that is what we are seeing. The fable of the fellowship of free, prosperous and politically equal white Western nations is coming to an end and the US wants to apply and leverage its overwhelming might.
I don’t like or approve this approach, but I am not surprised by it.
thought provoking. since theUSSR crumbled, the amerikan empire started putting troops and weapons into the old iron curtain countries which Bush senior said he would not. the amerikan empire has been on a world wide rampage to dominate the globe under D and R presidents and congresses. FFS boys and girls, just count the body bags and count the money heading to department of war and MICC world wide. all evil empires over stretch themselves. some end rather peacefully, like USSR in 1991. some not so peacefully, like the germans italians and japanese. hopefully amerika just goes bust and these wars and internal skirmeshes die down…………….and we resort to a 50 state solution. like pre 1865 confederation.
The destruction of the currency (i.e., the dollar) is key to how America goes bust
correct. i lived in charleston SC for a great decade. to a mansion downtown whose families still owned them before the recent unpleasantness, their ancestors had sold confederate dollars and bought gold, when the hand writing was on the wall. same with the smart people who sold continental dollars for gold in the amerikan revolution against the UK
Have some spendable 1/10 oz. gold coins.
Thinking of getting some Canadian currency, in case the worst happens.
silver and copper coins for daily use will suffice. gold is for saving forever or when one needs to run or buy a building or something more important, like a passport etc..
if you live in usa, having some canadian maple leaves, silver and gold is smart. that border is open to amerikans. for now, anyway.
Was thinking of Canadian currency. In the movie “Civil War”, the US currency is worthless, only Canadian money was good.
paper currency is dangerous in times of war whether civil or international. gold and silver and copper are metals in peaceful times and in dangerous times it is money. can save lives, too. saw it in my lifetime.
Will stick to the Maple Leaves, then……