The Wall Street Journal reports U.S. Holds Talks With U.K., France on Possible Syria Strikes.
>The U.S. is working with France and the U.K. on plans for a coordinated military strike in Syria if the regime uses chemical weapons in an expected offensive against the country’s last major rebel haven, President Trump’s national security adviser said.
>John Bolton warned Monday that a new attack by the Western allies would be much stronger than the two airstrikes launched in April 2017 and April 2018 after Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was accused of using chemical weapons that killed scores of civilians in the past 17 months.
>“We’ve been in consultation with the British and the French, who joined us in the second strike, and they also agree that another use of chemical weapons will result in a much stronger response,” Mr. Bolton said after giving a speech in Washington.
>The coordinated planning comes as the U.S. and its allies are trying to stave off a Syrian offensive in the country’s northwest, where more than 3 million civilians and as many as 70,000 militants are bracing for an attack.
>U.S. officials estimate that 10,000 to 15,000 of the Syrian rebels in Idlib province are aligned with al Qaeda, and the Pentagon has urged Russia and Syria to carry out a targeted campaign against those forces. The two countries have rebuffed the appeal.
False Flag Official Denial
>Mr. Bolton dismissed accusations made by Russia that the U.S. and its allies are working with Syrians to stage a chemical weapons attack as a pretext for Western military strikes.
>“That has to be, in the history of propaganda in the 20th and 21st centuries, one of the most outrageous claims that I can think of,” Mr. Bolton said.
The claim is hardly outrageous.
That aside, the false flag does not have to involve the US directly. Any of the 10,000 to 15,000 of the Syrian al Qaeda rebels just might want to provoke an attack on Assad.
And the al Qaeda rebels would have everything to gain and nothing to lose by staging a chemical attack and blaming Assad.
The US of course, has aligned itself with al Qaeda.
It’s a lovely picture, isn’t it?
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
MSNBC mistakenly let the cat out of the bag months ago…
Agree with Mish here !!! Who in their right mind would think Syria would resort to unnecessary chemical weapons knowing USA is just itching for another regime change? Does not pass smell test. Any “chemical” attack needs to be assumed a false flag unless proven otherwise by independent investigators. We have not learned anything after decades of horrid warmongering.
Turkey probably does NOT want members of ISIS and Al-Qaida and other islamic extremists that have fought in Syrian war coming to Turkey.
Since most of Syria is peaceful now most Syrians no longer have a reason to flee Syria.
The only reason to flee would be if you are ISIS, Al-Qaida or other sunni-extremists and have fought against Assad AND also committed atrocities against civilians.
Otherwise even Sunnis should be able to get back to normal life.
Turkey is also helping Europe by closing it’s border because if these ISIS and Al-Qaida members and other sunni-extremists would reach Turkey many would go onward to Greece and try to get to elsewhere in Europe.
Last time there was supposed to be Sarin nerve gas used in Douma Syria in April 2018 by “evil” Assad.
Trump’s daughter cried after seeing footage of Syrian kids crying while cold water was poured over them supposedly to clear them from Sarin.
US intelligence said there was Sarin.
Trump sent missiles to avenge the Douma Sarin attack
Later OPCW studied samples taken from Douma and from the supposed Sarin victims and found that whoopsie there was NO Sarin used.
There was some traces of Chlorine found which could mean Chlorine gas was used.
Chlorine is bad but it is NOT a nerve gas and it is NOT lethal unless in really high dosages. Usually chlorine gas just makes it difficult to see, difficult to breathe and causes irritating pain so if attacking a part of city full of terrorists it can be used to lower the casualties on your side because if the terrorists are coughing from chlorine they are easier to spot and since they have tears in their eyes they are not shooting as good as otherwise and since they have shortness of breath they are not charging you in an attack.
OPCW report:
Both the Assad regime and the islamic extremists from Jaish-el-Islam aka Army of Islam have access to Chlorine (Jaish-el-Islam is an Al-Qaida fan club working with Al-Nusra Front aka Al-Qaida hoping to kill all non-Sunnis from Syria including Christians and Yazidis and Alawites aka sect of Shias; Assad is Alawite).
The Jaish-el-Islam was already defeated in Douma and they had nowhere to go and there was negotiation for Assad to give them passage to other parts of Syria to save civilians from further fighting.
In that situation where there was NO reason for Assad to use even Chlorine apart from the claimed Sarin nerve gas (US intelligence botched up AGAIN with the Sarin claim because the Sarin claim was proven to be FAKE by OPCW) because he had already defeated the islamic extremists in Douma.
However the islamic extremists had motive and opportunity to use Chlorine and claim Sarin because their only chance against Assad is to make USA the Air Force of Al-Qaida and ISIS and for Trump to send missiles of Al-Qaida and ISIS to destroy Assad.
Either John Bolton is an INCOMPETENT doofus with a bad mustache OR John Bolton is intentionally creating a situation where USA loses by practically yelling at Al-Qaida and ISIS “Please fake a gas attack against yourselves or civilians OR commit a gas attack against yourselves or civilians and USA will bomb Assad acting as the Air Force and missiles of Al Qaida and ISIS” to push through some geo-political fever dream where Assad is crushed, Christians, yazidis and Alawites are slaughtered and some nice Sunni dictator that is buddy-buddy with ISIS and Al-Qaida takes control of Syria and plays nice with USA.
My bet is on John Bolton being an INCOMPETENT doofus with a bad mustache…
I just don’t understand all of the fear of Russia. Russia has a declining population and life expectancy, and its GDP is lower than Canada, much less Brazil, France, and the UK. I don’t know for sure, but I suspect Russia is involved in cyber activities to sow discord because such activities are cheap and Russia will certainly pursue its interests at the expense of the US. On the whole though, how can Russia finance much of anything beyond its own backyard when it comes to geopolitics? That’s what leads me to believe Russia is used by the continuous war supporters as a straw man to justify continued involvement in so many places. Our defense spending is over one-third of Russia’s entire economy. What are we so scared of? And if we’re insecure now with these relative levels of spending, when will we ever be secure again?
good point, it is called herding…and for that you need an enemy to scare your own sheeple.
what would the USA have done, with out the 9/11…?
Was Saddam SO evil that they had to destroy Iraq, the only barrier against Iran, ? and same could be said about Libya. ect.
Looks like the plan is to destabilize every country to avoid them competing against the us dollar hegemony, but now the entire planet is rising together, thats called blowback.
Help the us trade deficit, dont use dollars and dont buy us treasuries and let them make their own trinkets at 2 $ an hour.
Yes there is a storm coming and a guarantied black flag coming.
Free tip. The us mint is selling silver coins below production costs of mining it.
To Mexico, stop exporting your silver/real money to pay interest on Fake money.
Crazy conspiracy theory here Mish… it’s like you lifted this story right from Russian agitprop like zerohedge. You do understand that zerohedge is russian agitprop, yes?
After all we’ve seen of Russian behavior over the last decade, your credulous acceptance of this kind of nonsense conspiracy stuff is just inexcusable. You have a serious personality flaw where you fall for this kind of stuff. Remember when you parroted the idiotic claim that Clinton had a degenerative brain disease? I remember. You fall for this stuff bad and you should admit you have a problem. You seem so eager to be “contrarian” that you’re willing to embrace stupid conspiracy theories.
“After all we’ve seen of Russian behavior over the last decade, your credulous acceptance of this kind of nonsense conspiracy stuff is just inexcusable.”
Russia did not move NATO to its border. Russia did not overthrow Yanukovich and install someone “acceptable” to the U.S. government. The U.S. government meddled in the 1996 Russian election, which resulted in Putin coming into power in 2000. Russia didn’t try to overthrow Assad.
No one has actually proven that Assad gassed his people. In fact, with the threat of being attacked by the U.S. in response, Assad has no logical reason to use poison gas.
Ain’t nothing wrong with Mish, man. He was right about Vietnam back then and he’s right about Syria right now.
You either suffer yourself from “a degnerative brain disease” or you are either an employee of a shill for one of Washington’s many Alphabet agencies. No one believes Washington’s demonization campaign against Russia, Iran and Syria. Your efforts to legitimize it are disgusting.
What makes no sense is why would Assad use chemical weapons if he could accomplish the conquest w/o them? Especially in light of the threatened US response. Who has the most to gain? It would be the militiant Islamic extremists who do not value life. These same extremeists are also slaughtering Christians in Syria. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is probably a duck. Just becuase the Russians are making the accusations doesn’t mean its not true.
I advise you go to the internet and see some of the videos which prove the false-flag staging of some of these events. You can find videos showing the camera crews, and showing the catsup-smeared victims getting up and walking around after the filming. The originals are some of the clips that you have seen on CNN and elsewhere.
Do your homework before making claims you know nothing about. The two previous gas attacks were also NOT conducted by Assad forces. Go read “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”, by John Perkins, to get a better understanding of how the game is played. In the case of Syria, they are not only a hub for Russian gas on its way to Europe, which the US hopes to replace with gas from Qatar and Saudi Arabia, but they sit on an oil find in the Golan Heights that is 10X the Saudi discover. This find is controlled by Genie Energy, whose board includes the likes of “The Dick” Chaney and a Rothchild.
The US has been after Russian resources since at least 2000, when we tried to replace Yeltsin with a hand-picked successor. Putin and Trump are speed bumps that the Deep State did not count on. The only thing the establishment hates more than Trump is not getting the resources they feel they are entitled to.
You are such a transparent shill that you really should find another line of work. “Russian behavior” is NOT the problem. Washington’s behavior is a huge problem that threatens the peace of the world. You are either so stupid that you embrace every piece of incredible Establishment propaganda OR you are an establishment agent. In either case, you act is badly flawed, your efforts to support propaganda are ineffective, and your posts are a waste of bandwidth. Go shill somewhere else.
Truly bizarre that 17 years after 911, the US is aligned with al Qaeda.
You mean al-CIAda.
USA is about to become the Air Force of Al-Qaida and ISIS and send missiles of Al-Qaida and ISIS to destroy Assad that “evil” “warcriminal” who stopped Sunni-based ISIS and Sunni-based Al-Qaida from slaughtering all the Christians, Yazidis and Alawites (branch of Shias) in Syria.
Assad also prevented building nice pipelines through Syria from Sunni-Qatar and Sunni-Saudi Arabia to sort-of-Sunni-Turkey and onward to Europe so Russian gas that keeps European economy going could be replaced with Qatari gas and Saudi-gas.
It feels like McCain’s ghost is moving John Bolton’s lips and like McCain’s ghost is running US foreign policy.
US propaganda is becoming more and more like Russia under Khrushchev every day. And democrats are the ones stating the president is too soft on Russia. And praising John McCain. Am I in the twilight zone?
Let’s see who’s involved so far. US, Israel/Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Russia, Iran, with the UK, France and now Germany is offering their “services”. Who was invited? Russia and Iran.
Watch the gold price and be ready to head for shelter.
There is a vocal contingent of Trump supporters who have bet heavily that no Syria/ME escalation would happen under Trump, shouting down anyone who disagrees. It would shake a lot of confidence if moves are made to remove Assad after all and leave little doubt that Donald is part of the MIC swamp. This is the sort of thing Hillary (or Obama or Bush) would do. McCain wouldn’t exactly roll over in his grave either.
Don’t do it, Donny!
They were defending him raising taxes yesterday… there will be some nonsense dreamed up to justify a new war, just in time for the election.
I voted for Trump for three reasons: 1) He wasn’t Hillary. 2) He had all the right enemies. 3. He promised to end our illegal and immoral “regime change wars. Well, he’s STILL not Hillary although he is implementing her foreign policy. This Syrian thing does it for me. I”m done.