FTX US Declares Bankruptcy Too, What About the FTX Arena?

Let’s compare the above capture to recent statements.

100% Liquid and 100% Bankrupt

Here is a fascinating development.

FTX US, the US based exchange that accepts Americans, was not financially impacted by this sh*tsh*w. It’s 100% liquid. Every user could fully withdraw (modulo gas fees etc). Updates on its future coming.

FTX US is 100% liquid and 100% bankrupt. 

From a “100% liquid” value of $60 billion to something perhaps something closer to $0 in a day. Fascinating.

Liquidity Hope Coming

Note that SBF did not promise liquidity he only announced hope. It’s irrelevant because hope and promises are both lies.

An Illegal boost to TRX, BTT, JST, SUN, and HT?

Big Boost to TRX?

I do not see that spike in Tron. Am I looking at the wrong thing? 

Tron chart courtesy of CoinMarketCap

Tron Ready to Aid FTX

Math Doesn’t Add Up

I have a suggestion: Get the F out of Tron 

What About FTX Arena?

I am sure this is the #1 thing on everyone’s mind. So I am here to help.

You will be pleased to note Miami-Dade Looks at ‘Possible Next Steps’ for FTX Arena Naming Rights Deal

“Miami-Dade County officials who negotiated a 19-year, $135 million contract hinted at legal action.”

Yeah, let’s take legal action against a company worth negative $8 billion. 

From the Bankrupt Billionaire

“These are companies that are basically too far gone” 

Gee, thanks for such timely wisdom.

Q&A of the Day

Note: Nothing these liars say will matter. Another guru went to guru heaven.

Stairway to Heaven

I just happen to have a musical tribute.

The Crypto Casino Fails, FTX Files for Bankruptcy $8 Billion in the Hole

In case you missed it, please see my previous post The Crypto Casino Fails, FTX Files for Bankruptcy $8 Billion in the Hole

Get Out Now!

If you had money in FTX and failed to get it out before the company halted withdrawals, then consider it gone.

More importantly, if you have assets in any of the remaining crypto exchanges, it’s better to be safe than sorry. Get out now!

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Counter
Counter
1 year ago
Notice the Forbes cover correlation? Elizabeth Holmes was on another one
OUdaveguy
OUdaveguy
1 year ago
This was fraud mixed with digital snake oil, amplified by a Tulip mania, and built on yet another epic Ponzi scheme.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
So did Microstrategy get a margin call?
the FTX crash was large slice of humble pie to ALL crypto players.
This is the third time laser eyes share prices have been swatted back by the falling 200 day moving average. Not Good
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
This would be among my questions. I’m interested in the crypto trading mechanics. One reason is that I’d like to have more insight into MSTR’s exposure, given that I have 100 $480 Dec 23 puts on it. Another, broader reason that applies to all crypto, is I’d like to have more insight into whether all crypto is linked, and whether there will be any systemic risk as it collapses.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
The more I look, the more this looks like a classic bank run, but with no FDIC or Federal Reserve as a backstop. Interesting to see a scramble of these exchanges to prove their reserves. Yep, looks like fractional banking, which started long before the Fed and which was the basic mechanism behind bank failures. “Cold storage,” WTF is that? In any case, one biggie I’m thinking about is when to get out of MSTR.
I’m not playing bitcoin directly because I have never trusted any exchanges. I don’t even know if you can buy puts on bitcoin. If they existed and were traded on these crypto exchanges, forget it. Counterparty risk would be way too big. So my puts are on MSTR as a proxy for bitcoin. At some point kinda sorta soon, I might need to dive into the deep end of the pool and see how leveraged MSTR is to bitcoin, i.e. what happens to MSTR at various bitcoin prices. My guess (watch me be wrong) is that bitcoin need not go to $0 for MSTR to go to $0, but I wonder how that relationship works.
I don’t do a lot of shorting, so this is sorta new.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Seems like it’s easy to turn cash into crypto, but not so easy to turn crypto into cash. Does anyone have an article written for intelligent laymen who are interested in the mechanics of crypto trading? Preferably, it would examine bitcoin too — all with a particular focus on how a holder of crypto can turn that “asset” into dollars. It’s a simple question. How about a simple answer?
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
An “intelligent laymen” won’t buy crypto.
IMO, it’s “intelligent” if you buy in at the ground floor, as with an Amway salesman.
Any explanations I sought over the 12 or so years since bitcoin inception have always sounded like gibberish intended to sell me something.
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JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Did I ask for your opinion about whether or not I should buy crypto? Oddly enough, I did not. I am looking for insight into whether the FTX collapse has direct implications for bitcoin. Do you know anything? If not, could I suggest moving along? Thanks.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
“Does anyone have an article written for intelligent laymen who are interested in the mechanics of crypto trading?”
That was your question, I gave you an answer, your response was a bit arrogant.
Seems like the intelligent thing for you to do is to start trading bitcoin.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
No, I’m short (via puts) on MSTR because of its exposure to bitcoin, which I didn’t need you to tell me is a fraud. I am now interested in the anatomy of how crypo will collapse. I don’t care about anything else: just the mechanics of collapse. Looks like the vector might end up being crypo exchanges. That’s why I asked, and what I’ve gotten is regurgitated obviousness. It’d be great if anyone here had actual knowledge about the inner workings; not “mining” but the process by which crypo is “stored,” traded, and converted to cash.
My response wasn’t arrogant, however it looked. I was frustrated that you were too lazy to think about my question, and instead gave a knee-jerk answer that doesn’t matter one bit.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
My response wasn’t arrogant, however it looked. I was frustrated that you were too lazy to think about my question, and instead gave a knee-jerk answer that doesn’t matter one bit.”
See what you did there?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
If it were a simple question you wouldn’t be reading about the crypto businesses going under like this. The right answer is that you are too simple for that market.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
Update on the update,
“More than $600 million was siphoned from FTX’s crypto wallets late Friday. Soon after, FTX stated in its official Telegram channel that it had been compromised, instructing users not to install any new upgrades and to delete all FTX apps.
“FTX has been hacked. FTX apps are malware. Delete them. Chat is open. Don’t go on FTX site as it might download Trojans,” wrote an account administrator in the FTX Support Telegram chat. The message was pinned by FTX General Counsel Ryne Miller.”
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
And it gets better, time for an update;
“And then Friday night Reuters reported that “At least $1 billion of customer funds have vanished from collapsed crypto exchange FTX, according to two people familiar with the matter.”
“More than $380 million in crypto left bankrupt crypto company FTX’s wallets late Friday, with little clear explanation as to why.”
Fortunately Bernie Madoff’s old cell is available.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Excuse my ignorance, but how are tokens sitting in a ledger supposed to make money if not invested in something?
SBF could have a valid defence, or just say when these venerable institutions gave me money it couldn’t possibly be a Ponzi scheme.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Mish, instead of or in addition to the musical tribute you definitely should have linked this hilarious South Park clip that gets referenced all the time.
It’s exactly what happened to people who put their money into the FTX exchange.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Maybe he should karaoke Stairway to Heaven? (Remembering Johnny B Good a few years back)
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
1 year ago
Interesting stat (Wikipedia)
24,000 incarcerated people in the U.S. eat kosher meals.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
It will be 24,001 shortly.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Re-name it “Enron Arena” or “WorldCom Arena”.
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
I have maybe 0.1% of my assets in crypto, just to try it out. I bought just after the Covid pandemic started so I am about break even now. About six months ago I bought a hardware wallet and transferred all of my crypto (BTC and ETH) on to the Ledger hardware wallet because I was concerned about Coinbase. Looks like a wise move. However it costs funds to move from a custodial account to a hardware wallet. I haven’t found a use case for crypto yet.
Agave
Agave
1 year ago
Today, it’s the cryptonite.
Next up, Twitter implosion.
Should be a fun month!
Snarla Hazard
Snarla Hazard
1 year ago
Reply to  Agave
Yeah I just read yesterday that Musk did an all-hands meeting yesterday and said he was not sure how much run rate the company has and that “bankruptcy was out of the question”. Also the CISO, The Chief Privacy Officer, The Chief Compliance Officer all resigned on 11/9 and possibly the Senior Director of Safety & Integrity Yoel Roth. That ship is sinking faster than anyone thought.
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Are all these messages meant to be taken literally?
Or is it more like link to youtube.com ?
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Is ‘Bankman-Fried’ like a real name, or should it be construed as a slogan or a [warning] label ?
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Webej
It’s the anagram for bankrupt-fraud.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
I don’t know anything about this. It just confirms that buying physical silver, gold, property, and stocks were the right decision for me.
Sure physical gold and silver can be outlawed and or taxed, property laws can change that allow people to never pay rent, stocks can and will continue to be manipulated, but so far it’s worked in my favor.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
You would be more popular in the Twitter universe if you would stop asking difficult questions and just go with the flow.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Investors Who Put $2 Billion Into FTX Face Scrutiny, Too
Venture capital firms and investment funds showered the failed crypto exchange and its founder with money. There were few strings attached.
Nov. 11, 2022, 2:39 p.m. ET
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Anyone who holds crypto anything now who doesn’t sell while they still can is an idiot.
SBF reminds me of friends in college who used to go to bars and tell girls absurd lies about themselves. How they’re going to be rich and famous. The girls believed it. And I think the liars did too.
dwkeller
dwkeller
1 year ago
Thanks for the video!
Avery
Avery
1 year ago
Cryptosporidium
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
I’m just thankful for the end of crypto commercials.
Will Hunting, what were you thinking? I thought you were Good.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
At the very least, we should discuss NFT fundamentals before encouraging panic selling.
Uh, wait, there are no fundamentals, or…”100% Liquid and 100% Bankrupt” – So, it’s the Schrodinger’s cat of investing!
I find myself wondering what the highly lucrative Russian hacking industry’s going to do without bitcoin payments?
The whole industry needs an innovative shakeup, maybe design a new, improved coin, like pink polka dotted cookie coins, something like that will surely create value.
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Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Cookie coins have all sorts of possibilities. Better still would be (insert drum roll) **** Cannabis Coin **** backed by…. yes, you guessed it! A crypto coin with really HIGH value.
pimaCanyon
pimaCanyon
1 year ago
will the lying liar CEO get prosecuted for fraud? Will he end up in jail? Maybe. ‘course, that doesn’t help the FTX clients who lost boatloads of money. What a sh*tshow indeed.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  pimaCanyon
I don’t think he’ll end up in jail. He was a good donor to the Democrat party (and they sure are not going to giving the money back to those that lost). That’s insurance he will need. Also, He’s very sorry!!
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
1 year ago
Reply to  pimaCanyon
Second largest contributor to the Democratic Party behind Soros, so no. Thanks for asking though!

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