Gov’t Shutdown Coming: Trump Won’t Sign Spending Bill Extension, Insists On Wall

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jackn303
jackn303
5 years ago

Mr. Shedlock Border security is not a joke. The illegals bring in disease crime and swell the welfare rolls. Also drugs guns and laundered money flow across the border. It is time someone took note of the situation.

MorrisWR
MorrisWR
5 years ago

The wall is idiotic since there are many less costly ways to stop illegal immigration (like they did with the caravan). However, I am for anything that shiluts down the government feom wasting our money so shut it down already.

JL1
JL1
5 years ago

President Theodore Roosevelt signed the “Roosevelt reservation” in 1907 that designated 60 feet along the US-Mexico border to Federal government in California, New Mexico and Arizona so there are NO land issues in California, New Mexico and Arizona since 60 feet is plenty enough to build a wall on the southern border so Trump could order the army to build a wall immediately on the US-Mexico border in those states.

Since Trump could order the army to lay barbed wire on the border he can obviously order the army to also build a wall along the border from the army budget without any say so from Senate or House and the land needed is already controlled by Federal government in California, New Mexico and Arizona due to the Roosevelt reservation from 1907.

In asking and begging House and Senate for funds to build a wall Trump is like an adult male complaining his mommy told him to not eat candy even though the man is 30 years old.

This fight over 5 billion is incredibly stupid since the whole border wall cost estimate is 25 billion ONCE and USA pays over 700 billion EVERY YEAR just on interest on the federal debt and out of the whole Federal YEARLY budget of over 5000 billion the wall cost of 25 billion is just under 0.5% ONCE

Trump is surrounded by incompetent Koch Brothers (Amnesty Brothers) stooges like VP Pence and Mick Mulvaney who are in the pocket of Koch’s and who incompetently advised Trump to sign the mega-omnibus without any wall funding last year despite the mega-Omnibus having major giveaways for democrats.

Trump also incompetently gave Paul Ryan his dream of the huge tax cuts for the rich and just a few dollars for the middle class.
If Trump had a clue he would have told Ryan and Democrats earlier that they are getting NOTHING unless Trump gets the wall funding.

The Republican losses in mid-terms were caused by Trump-independents and some Coulter-Republicans staying at home because Trump has been betraying voters by not building the wall and Trump has shamed himself by claiming some fence repairs on existing fencing are his wall.

The only problem land wise is Texas and those Texas farmers and ranchers who own land at the border and like to earn fortunes paying peanuts to illegal immigrants working on their farms and ranches.

This can be solved by Trump using eminent domain to take control of the area needed to build the wall after first offering the going rate for the farm/ranch land along the border.

For those ranchers and farmers fighting against building a wall because they want continued flooding of USA with illegal immigrants for their own selfish economic reasons Trump should order ICE to inspect all their employees and deport their illegal immigrant employees and slap huge fines for the farms and ranches employing illegal immigrants.

Some people also own land both on the Mexico side and USA side in Texas but this has already been solved by building the wall on parts of the border already during Bush and Obama and giving the people living at the border a gate on the wall that they can use to go through and that gate is controlled with biometrics.

The wall needs to be built on the whole border because illegal migrants are already dying in the hundreds in the desert when trying to cross through uninhabited places to avoid border patrol so it would be INHUMANE to leave parts of the border without a wall.

Trump needs to build the wall and stop crying “they won’t let me do it”.

Also since Mexico is a safe enough country and offered the caravan migrants asylums and residence permits USA should NOT accept even a single asylum claim from migrants coming through Mexico to US ports of entry.

Attorney General can by LAW order that asylum applications are no longer accepted and the statute even clearly says that this right is “without judicial review” so AG needs to just say that “hey, Mexico is a signatory to multinational treaty called the Geneva Convention on refugees and Mexico offered you asylums and residence permits so no asylum applications are from now on accepted either at the border or at US ports of entry on the border”.

Trump needs to lay blame for every rape and every murder and every drunk driving death caused by illegal immigrants at the feet of Democrats.

Also Kirstjen Nielsen is completely incompetent and needs to go.

shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago

Yes, we need money for border security. Well, you know, other than the $41B for DHS, the $28B for DOJ, and the $12B for Coast Guard. It’s like we don’t even care to secure the border!

JL1
JL1
5 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

Current funding funds border patrol forced to do catch-and-release and sloppy credible fear interview that lets 75%+ claim credible fear based on very flimsy claims and Bush/Obama era policy of releasing migrants to disappear in the USA while waiting for years for their asylum application.

gregggg
gregggg
5 years ago

All this is beside the point, Donald trump wins not matter what happens to the wall. If the wall gets built, he gets credit for it since he was the only one sticking to his guns. If the wall never happens, he has an endless political whip.

JL1
JL1
5 years ago
Reply to  gregggg

Unless Trump gets the wall built on the WHOLE BORDER by 2020 Trump will be an one-term president and be considered a FAILURE by both Trump-hating Democrats and 2016 Trump supporters.

pi314
pi314
5 years ago

In the scheme of things, what is $5b? Obama gave Iranians well over that amount. Let’s just spend the $5b and move on to TRILLION dollar infrastructure bill that the country desperately needs!

MntGoat
MntGoat
5 years ago

I was reading where after Israel built a wall on its southern border with Egypt illegal immigration went from 55k before the wall to almost zero after.

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

“Mexico is gonna pay for the wall. is a red herring. Only retards keep repeating it.”

Like Trump?

Resjudicata
Resjudicata
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish

My second post in 10 years of reading.

I’ll pay 3x for the wall. And I’ll pay 2x for products if it hurts China only a little.

2banana
2banana
5 years ago

Does America have the right and obligation to a secure border? Yes/No.

And if any American wanders into Mexico as an “undocumented worker” – they are immediately arrested, jailed, fined and deported.

How come the left doesn’t accuse them of racism?

Zardoz
Zardoz
5 years ago

You aren’t afraid enough! Be afraaaaaaaaiiiiid! Brown people! Boog Booga! You aren’t safe!

Ted R
Ted R
5 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

I am very afraid of criminals and terrorists coming into this country. You should be to. That is why we need a wall. What else would secure the border except a wall????

Ron Cataldi
Ron Cataldi
5 years ago
Reply to  Ted R

Would a wall have prevented 9/11? Nope. You’re not getting the money to build douchehenge, sorry.

MntGoat
MntGoat
5 years ago
Reply to  Ron Cataldi

“Would a wall have prevented 9/11? Nope.”
…..but it might have kept out say at least half of those 12 million illegals.

shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
Reply to  Ted R

You are much more likely to be victimized by a native born citizen.

MntGoat
MntGoat
5 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

“You aren’t afraid enough! Be afraaaaaaaaiiiiid! Brown people! Boog Booga! You aren’t safe”

…..what does any of your comment have to do with having a secure border? It sounds like you are parroting back the left wing media propaganda that tries to characterize any one who wants border laws enforced as a racist.

Obviously a US border that allowed well over 12 million people to sneak in illegally is not secure. When you go to another country Zardoz do you sneak in illegally? Or do you have your passport stamped and obey the visa laws of that country your visiting? Why shouldn’t the USA enforce its immigration laws like every other country in the world does?

shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

George HW Bush scared white people with Willy Horton, Trump scares them with Mexicans. Reagan pissed off white people with the black “welfare queen” and Trump pisses them off with the free-loading Mexicans.

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