House Still on Fire
Climate activist Greta is back on stage asking people to panic. Her message is ‘Our House Is Still on Fire’
Here’s some pertinent snips from Greta’s List of Demands.
- One year ago I came to Davos and told you that our house is on fire. I said I wanted you to panic. I’ve been warned that telling people to panic about the climate crisis is a very dangerous thing to do. But don’t worry. It’s fine. Trust me, I’ve done this before and I can assure you it doesn’t lead to anything.
- Let’s be clear. We don’t need a “low carbon economy.” We don’t need to “lower emissions.” Our emissions have to stop if we are to have a chance to stay below the 1.5-degree target. And, until we have the technologies that at scale can put our emissions to minus, then we must forget about net zero. We need real zero.
- We demand at this year’s World Economic Forum, participants from all companies, banks, institutions and governments: immediately and completely divest from fossil fuels.
- We don’t want these things done by 2050, 2030 or even 2021. We want this done now.
- Our house is still on fire. Your inaction is fueling the flames by the hour. And we are telling you to act as if you loved your children above all else.
Greta a Pawn in Someone Else’s Game
Telling people to panic doesn’t work for the simple reason there is nothing to panic over.
A huge percentage of the world’s populations lives day to day struggling with food, medical, housing or debt-related issues. Their concern, and rightfully so, is surviving the next week.
Excellent Video on Climate Nonsense
Tony Heller’s latest. Where is all the snow going? It’s on the ground apparently…https://t.co/XO7d2gFq7n
— Dave Collum (@DavidBCollum) January 18, 2020
Global Warming Fraud Exposed In Pictures
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Fearmongering Lesson
None of the above tops AOC who says World Will End in 12 Years: Here’s What to Do About It
Here’s a lesson for you climate fearmongers: Never put a time frame on your prediction that is shorter than your expected life or you will be ridiculed until you die.
Greta Demands Action Now!
Even if you are still convinced man and not the sun is the overwhelming force in climate change, the idea that we can immediately divest from fossil fuels an have “real” zero” emissions is economic nonsense.
Such statements do not merit praise, they merit ridicule. And her parents deserve scorn for putting her on stage to be used in this way.
The media treats her like she is some sort of saint. Actually, she is nothing but a pawn in someone else’s game on a fool’s mission to achieve the impossible.
Ironically, Greta’s message is so absurd that if we did what she asked, there would be panic and a global economic collapse.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Would somebody pls fwd a mailing addy to me for Greta. Going to send her a ticket to Paris so she can gleefully skip in front of a speeding Parisian bus
Really too bad that this brat jetsets around the globe burning fossil fuels at 525 miles per hour and 35,000 feet just to tell us we need to bankrupt the petroleum industry, without which we could not even survive with going on 8 billion people in the world today. Because our food like it or not is grown with pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, all PETROCHEMICALS. And the dumbassed vegan Nazis that say we should all just go vegan and organic, first of all might I suggest they shove their tofu right up their collective butts? Second, organic farming takes about 50% more land than non organic farming to produce the same crop yields. Man employs about one billion acres of land now to grow food, so sure, we will just have to find another half billion acres of land to keep agriculture at the same level it is now.
What really pisses me off about all this is that it is utterly false. Nothing we can do is going to change what is happening. All the angst and resources spent are wasted. Yes the “house is on fire” because clearly something has changed, I notice for example I have not seen a squirrel in years, or walking sticks, or several other types of bugs that used to be common, now just gone, butterflies and bees getting rare. But that just is not from higher temperatures, it is another cause but they will not even try to figure it out because well they already have it all figured out don’t they? Man made global warming is a myth and a religion. And man will die chanting it’s creed and catechism.
Sometimes doing nothing is the correct course of action, especially if no one knows what to do, as is obvious from this “discussion.”
Greta is being exploited by her parents.
Hi Mish,
thanks for the story. your last story made me curious about the use of different time lines, so I checked the IPCC report that I could found. Admittedly, there are many publications so I may have looked at something else but in the report most graphs are starting around 1850. I did not see the use of cherry picked starting dates. Can you please provide the link to the study that did?
create debates!
Spain has gone crazio bonkers also over this. The new socialist government just declared a climate emergency
no doubt with a lot of spending planned. They are really on a roll there, raising minimum wage by 29% over the next two years to the second highest in EU , telling parents they don’t own their children and comparing them with jihadis for wanting to opt their children out of extracurricular activities ( diversity of all kinds) . Much more besides, the country has gone completely nuts.
….and to think Spain was such a pleasant country…. in the late seventies, my parents went to Valencia with its thousands! of furniture factories, and set up a furniture exporting business, now all they have in Valencia is Europe’s biggest, fckng Ikea, the local furniture manufacturers are all gone… Well that s what they call PROGRESS I guess ….
For those who dabble in stocks, two oil company stocks are down the last two days. Exxon Mobil (XOM) and Chevron (CVX). I added to my Exxon position today, buying the stock at $67.50 a share.
Exxon is trading at 5 year lows. Dividend is $3.48 or 5.15%.
I figured why not everything else seems to be trading at all time highs.
President Jimmy Carter – Address to the Nation on Energy
April 18th, 1977
We are all doomed if you do not give us money.
And yes, it is all based on scientific recommendations
Unfortunately, for the advocates of man-caused Global Warming/Climate Change, the vast majority of recent/current global climate variation is caused by solar activity–for example the number of solar flares/sun spots.
Solar cycle 25 began in 2019, and NASA indicates it will be minimal compared to previous years. While no one knows for certain, it is likely the Earth is entering a long-term minimum similar to the Dalton Minimum at the beginning of the 19th century. Less likely, is a Maunder minimum. In either case, the planet is entering cooling phase, in which case solar power will NOT cut it. Without energy, millions will freeze and die of hunger. BTW, this is science, not global climate change religion.
Hi Mish,
One question.
I really like to hear your answer.
Here is the scenario.
We have a patient with dying of cancer.
We have only one controversial expensive treatment. You might even think stupid treatment.
But we do know the treatment won’t make the patient adverse effect.
Will you treat the world dying of cancer with that treatment?
At least you’ll have some hope he might recover.
Or will you watch the world dying of cancer?
The patient is our priceless world.
Winn patient is not dying — he is living longer and better
It’s do as we say not as we do. Let TPTB lead by example and next year conference call instead.
Limit travel of the bureaucrats, ministers, billionaires and force them to go with the plebs in coach.
Let’s have a curfew from 11pm so all bars must close.
Dont tax the rich, tax their toys – jet and yacht fuel.
Be sure, any hardships won’t be shared. It will always fall on the shoulders of the plebs.
Etc etc.
When they cancel Davos we know they are serious.
As Scott Adams says: an analogy does not persuade.
Let’s sum this up with the verified geological data from the last 17,000 years: link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com
In Central Greenland?
Here’s another timeline.
Are you serious? This chart is sophomoric, and purports to be science.
Gregg’s graph makes a great deal of sense when compared to known solar cycles. Russian scientists pointed this out about 20 years ago. The west is still in denial.
We’ll know if TPTB take it seriously when they cancel a jamboree like Davos to reduce C02 and massively tax private jets.
Until then it’s do as we say, not as we do.
Start with a massive reduction in carbon fuel based global travel and let’s see what happens. Lot less C02 if none of us have a job.
Even if there wasn’t any man made global warming it’d still be better to stop polluting the planet, and that’s what we should strive to do. We don’t like walking around our streets if they’re full of litter so why would we like our air and oceans littered in the same way.
I would like to point out that plants use CO2 to produce the oxygen most organism require.
They’ve been growing fine without the need for us to top them up.
Your comment was about pollutants, to which I merely pointed out that CO2, which is what we’re talking about, isn’t quite a pollutant.
Well I disagree, when you alter the natural state of something it’s pollution. Humans have pumped enough carbon dioxide into the atmosphere over the past 150 years to raise its levels higher than they have been for hundreds of thousands of years. So in this context Co2 is pollution.
The problem is that CO2, along with H2O, is specifically the desired end result of lack of pollution in darned near any energy producing process sans nuclear. It’s all the non CO2 stuff which is problematic.
Then, because gullible Swedish blonde kids of all ages, sexes and nationalities are told to panic over soda bubbles, and being gullible Swedish kids they don’t know any better; we end up huffing diesel particulates, spending needless hours sucking smog on freeways so petty clowns can pay homage to Saint Musk by hogging left lanes, and more generally falling out of the sky because resources are being handed uncritically to anyone dumb enough to believe rank nonsense, instead of being left in the hands of people competent enough to build something as complimecated as a functional airplane.
When you live in a world of limited resources, every penny mindlessly spent on dumb stuff for the exclusive benefit of privileged dumb people must, by necessity, mean a penny less spent on something, and someone, less dumb. Hence, the dumb stuff has consequences. Even to well indoctrinated Swedish kids who, as per Bastiat, are too dumb to see them.
No can do, Greta. Jesus is coming, and we’re supposed to have the world on fire for him.
Hi Mish,
You might be right.
Greta might be right.
We shouldn’t fight who is right.
Actually we have only one world to live.
We can’t afford to lose our world to man made disaster.
The world is for us and for our kids.
More trees.
Low carbon emission.
That’s it.
The powers that be want more trees to burn for energy, since trees are a renewable resource.
we have only one world to live.
We can’t afford to lose our world to man made disaster.
there is no man made disaster>
read history of, asteroids, comets, volcanoes, earthquakes — and be fearful of nature not to kill us all
Mish why don’t you also share your opinions on prenatal care and home repair and other things you are UTTERLY UNQUALIFIED to opine on.
Tony Heller is a widely ridiculed clown. That he’s your go-to guy says it all. I’ll bet you haven’t spent 5 hours educating yourself on the basics of climate change and climate science. Instead you continue to spread lies and disinformation based on your personal bias and gut feeling. It’s pathetic.
I saved this quote of yours from a while back:
Mike Shedlock – “There is no “proof” of man-made global warming. There is data to support a THEORY, much of it fake, but some of it not. The time-frame analysis is clearly insufficient and there are thousands of factors. It is likely, we do not yet know the biggest cause of what’s happening. Moreover, as LaCalle pointed out, the free market will take care of this problem anyway, assuming there is a problem”
Mish believes we don’t even know what’s causing climate change and don’t worry, a planetary transition to a hothouse state is no big deal, the market will fix it.
Moronical to the extreme.
“Moronical to the extreme.”
Yes listening to Greta is.
As for Heller, Play the video about changing timelines. Educate yourself.
Every chart has a different timeline. It is one of the things that Scott Adams uses to claim “bullshit”.
Who cares what Greta has to say! If you don’t like her, ignore her. She doesn’t change anything about atmospheric physics and global warming. Just because there are idiots on one side doesn’t mean the science is wrong!
Your guy Tony Heller is roundly discredited in almost everything he posts – you need only look for the clear rebuttals. But he’s prolific and he has a band of loyalists who don’t bother to review the evidence themselves. Seems you’re one of them.
I suggest you start here: link to tamino.wordpress.com
It’s Not Just That Global Warming Is Fake. What Matters Is Why This Fakery Is Being Promoted.
Gary North – January 03, 2020
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From 2009.
Global warming is based 100% on junk science. The most vocal promoters are not interested in the details of physical science. They are interested in two things: political control over the general public and the establishment of international socialism.
JUNK SCIENCE VS. REAL SCIENCE
For a detailed, footnoted, 12-page article, written by three scientists, two with Ph.D’s from CalTech, click here.
This paper was sent to tens of thousands of natural scientists in the United States.
Over 31,000 scientists have put their reputations on the line and signed a politically incorrect petition opposing the 1997 Kyoto agreement or protocol. Here is a photocopy of a signed petition.
Let’s grant that man-made global warming is true for argument’s sake. So what? Rising CO2 is inevitable and cannot be stopped.
If everyone in the west were to abandon all activity that lent itself to the production of carbon dioxide, the effect will be overwhelmed in short order by the vast populations of the world that are struggling to escape poverty. At every point of progress they will increase their “carbon footprint”! How does one think that telling them to stop is either moral or ethical?
Three quarters of the world population lives in a day to day struggling with food, medical, housing or poverty related issues. Their concern, and rightfully so, is surviving the next week. Can we reasonably expect the struggling father in India, Asia, Africa or South America to abandon his hopes for a better life? How persuasive is the argument that his family must remain perpetually impoverished lest the Maldives disappear?
The misery of the poor is actual, real and present; The horrors imagined by the climate hysterics is vague, distant and abstract. This is fundamentally the enterprise that climate hysterics must face: How can the primal yearnings of the human heart for better days be denied? What arguments will prevail in the face of that reality? What case can be marshaled to cause remote villages to reject electrification? Or to expect a mother to reject electric appliances?
Excellent Mish!
The “Global Warming Fraud Basics” chart is blurry when I click to enlarge – is there a better one available?
There is a video and more charts in this link
Look for the video called “My Gift To Climate Alarmists”
Play the video to see the charts
Anybody care to take a guess at what the carbon footprint of the US military is?
crickets
Global Warming activists would gain more traction if their speeches focused on the energy sources the world should transition to rather than what we should transition away from (and nobody better say use “solar” and “wind” unless they also show how energy storage is going to be implemented and also what the costs and environmental consequences of that whole system is).
Making demands that everyone in the world must accept less individual freedom, a higher cost of living, and a lower quality of life is a tough sell.
Well.. if you find the lifeboats uncomfortable then by all means stay on the ship.
There are no lifeboats no get into.
If only the totalitarian progressive indoctrinati had that much insight, and respect for individual choice…
Which they, true to form, of course do not. Instead, as always, mindlessly and uncriticaly cheering for Dear Leader to ban something, and harass someone. Because, like, some Swedish kid, on, like, TV and, like, stuff, said, like, something and, like, OMG!!!
You climate deniers are on the wrong side of history. You should realize this by now. Like Trump and Don Quixote, you can keep titling at the windmills of climate change forever but it is not going to change anything. There are simply too many who DO buy into climate change an who WILL continue to keep it in the forefront of political and business discussions.
Here’s the history: link to wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com
First Greta, Gloria Steinhem in 1992
While there is little doubt that a century and a half of pervasive progressive indoctrination has resulted in a West predominantly preoccupied with mindless dumb stuff; as Mish points out there are plenty more around the world who are more concerned about the reality of getting by for another week.
And furthermore, the latters are largely the ones with a sufficiently decent Women’s Studies education to have much of a say on the matter a generation or two from now.
But regardless, as a patron saint for the DumbAge; where “World Leader” refers to some halfwit on Fed welfare who “made money on his house”, or mindlessly playing zero-sum-games “on Wall Street,” or by running around chasing ambulances, or at best kowtowing to members the above idiot army; what could possible be more appropriate than some random kid cluelessly pontificating about whatever nonsense the even more clueless progressive indoctrinati happens to be told is fashionable to obsess over du jour.
We should stall and delay, spend trillions on military gear to blow up humanity instead, deplete the rest of the finite supply of fossil fuels driving the biggest vehicle we can borrow, and if turns out scientists were right to warn us of the risks, we will all just go to Mars or Venus.
Trust me I am a scientist:
Jimmy Carter: The World Will Run Out of Oil in 2011
We had people over to our house a couple weeks ago. One guest informed me how his little cousin in Canada is freaked out over the world ending in 12 (11 now?) years.
We may have a little more understanding than adolescents, but wow, how can anyone justify kids freaking out is beyond me.
The only thing worth freaking out over is if coffee disappeared from the face of the Earth.
What disgusts me is how lefty educators hold up whining, demanding “activists” as heroes to their students. Such activists do not appeal to your reason, they do not expect you to make up your own mind, quite the opposite they intend to shame you into me-too-ism. Being such an “activist” is not a productive use of a life and should not be emulated.
You can now take “Activism” as a course on several universities.
Every two year old on the planet knows how to whine and drive their parents bananas. No one has to teach them, its instinct.
By offering courses in whining… I mean activism… colleges are just taking advantage of ill prepared high school kids. Charging slow witted kids hundreds of thousands of dollars to “learn” something every two year old can do out of instinct. Whining is not a marketable skill.
And no matter how much this Greta infant whines and threatens to hold her breath, she is still full of &*$%. The elitist scum who attend Davos all arrived in private jets and V12 powered armored limousines. They can spew all the self righteous propaganda the media will print, but the elitist scum don’t act like they believe a word out of this infants mouth. Nor should they.
“she is nothing but a pawn in someone else’s game on a fool’s mission to achieve the impossible.”
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Pawn? Absolutely.
fool’s mission? Not so fast.
The “fools” are looking at skimming $billions (likely $trillions) if there is a mad dash to go Green (renewables, carbon credits, etc).
Greta is a marketing gimmick. She does not think for herself. She is the equivalent of a hologram popstar, like Hatsune Miku.
She is still young and not completely educated. Give her 5 more years or so.
I see two possibilities:
She will be basically the same as now.
She will be discarded, forgotten and replaced by some other clueless pawn.
Yes like this:
First Greta, Gloria Steinhem;
The second one… she will be tossed aside like all the others.
The cult leaders will just find a new puppet to use to manipulate the weak minded
This site would do better if it avoided the idiot crowd’s obsession with a teenage twit turned saint.