“Sales Price: The median sales price of new houses sold in November 2021 was $416,900. The average sales price was $481,700. “
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Prices are crazy. No way this will work out well long term. Here is latest (2020) from Census on income:
Median household income was $67,521 in 2020, a decrease of 2.9 percent from the 2019 median of $69,560 (Figure 1 and Table A-1). This is the first statistically significant decline in median household income since 2011.
We bought in June on the prairie, on water, outside Denver. Nobody works in the city anymore. The water is drinking water, no motorboats. kayaks and electric trolling motors only. Big boats with large Mercury motors have electric trolling motors. The storage at the marina is full of dual purpose boats. My point? I don’t believe that cities are viable anymore as the the center of commerce. I would note that I went to high school in Houston and it is a major port in the Western Hemisphere, but only 50,000 jobs are port related.
Got one in the burbs and one a couple of miles from a village. In the burbs we have lots of idiots all around, in the village, they don’t even have one village idiot. guess where i like to be. One problem, we need access to doctors and it ain’t looking good for the village where the nearest hospital is 17 miles away and it sadly looks like it is about to go bust.
Value added
produced or booked? In the past industries were concentrated in the cities and
that is where most wealth was produced. Today cities do not contain industry.
Instead they contain much of the knowledge workers whose work is not production
but organization of production. The actual production takes place outside of
the big cities now and in the countryside or even in different countries. The
end result is that the only reason why people would live in a city is because
of the attractiveness of big city life in culture, restaurants, a more liquid
job market and the sundry variety of experiences. They are no longer strictly
necessary for the production of goods and services since all of them can and
are produced outside of the cities.
Headquarters of large companies are in big cities
but since their value comes from the knowledge of the individuals and not from
the installations those people could be moved out of the city at a moment’s
notice and easily reconstitute the headquarters in another place. The company
would survive. Before, that couldn’t have happened because although the knowledge
workers were in the city, the factories were there too and could not be moved. This
brings up the fact that where the value-added occurs and where it is booked are
rarely the same place and that when we say that this or that city produces X
amount of wealth it is not a correct statement. Since knowledge workers and
their support workers make up the major cohort of big-city dwellers and that they are
mobile, I would say that big cities are in the most exposed position that they
have ever been since the cities started long time ago. Their principle
attractiveness lies not on their ability to produce but now rely on their
ability to amuse their inhabitants in order to keep them there.
Not sure if this is an accurate interpretation of the chart, but if completed homes for sale are at cycle lows while total new homes for sale are at cycle highs, more homes are selling prior to completion, which is bullish for the sector.
Also, new homes for sale are a leading indicator of home prices, so the still rising numbers of homes for sale counter intuitively portends higher prices … at least for now.
Greggg
2 years ago
Just trying to imagine a builder trying to keep things running orderly in these days of shortages. Buyers have to qualify at the beginning and at the end of the building process to finally get a mortgage. Windows, just standard size vinyl windows are now 14 weeks out ETA… and that’s a maybe. Lumber running $1000-1100/100bf, gaps in availability, plywood going through the roof again, and this is the slowest part of the year for sales. If something doesn’t magically change in the next few months, builders will be dropping out of the game.
ColoradoAccountant
2 years ago
Being retired I was put in charge of education from pre-school through high school. This included finding private education, paying for it, and getting the grandchild to and from. I got sick of all the driving so I convinced the kids to sell their house, and I sold mine. We do the Dynasty thing, one big house on the prairie overlooking water. I wonder how many multi-generation families will figure it out and buy into combining households?
So glad you are there for your Grand Kids. Traditional, wholesome, multi-generational households could be the Black Swan event that knocks the legs out of Real Estate.
I would like that but I think my kids and their husbands like their independence. Do you like being the Patriarch?
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Skipping from sales ‘volume’ aspects to sales price, up some 14-odd percent since Nov 2020: link to fedprimerate.com
Affordable housing, thanks to the F’d up Fed.
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
COVID pulled a lot of demand forward by those who were able to work from home and destroyed a lot of future demand from those who predominantly cannot work from home. Inflation especially hurts those looking for entry level housing. The housing market should be noticeably flat to down over 2022.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Good piece. Thanks for debunking the “6.5 month supply” number which is pure fantasy.
Austin? Just checked the apps…prices higher in December. A house I bought in 2009 for 209K just broke the 500K barrier….if you believe the estimates..and I do. That’s a large-ish tract house on a tiny lot in Round Rock.
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Value added
produced or booked? In the past industries were concentrated in the cities and
that is where most wealth was produced. Today cities do not contain industry.
Instead they contain much of the knowledge workers whose work is not production
but organization of production. The actual production takes place outside of
the big cities now and in the countryside or even in different countries. The
end result is that the only reason why people would live in a city is because
of the attractiveness of big city life in culture, restaurants, a more liquid
job market and the sundry variety of experiences. They are no longer strictly
necessary for the production of goods and services since all of them can and
are produced outside of the cities.
but since their value comes from the knowledge of the individuals and not from
the installations those people could be moved out of the city at a moment’s
notice and easily reconstitute the headquarters in another place. The company
would survive. Before, that couldn’t have happened because although the knowledge
workers were in the city, the factories were there too and could not be moved. This
brings up the fact that where the value-added occurs and where it is booked are
rarely the same place and that when we say that this or that city produces X
amount of wealth it is not a correct statement. Since knowledge workers and
their support workers make up the major cohort of big-city dwellers and that they are
mobile, I would say that big cities are in the most exposed position that they
have ever been since the cities started long time ago. Their principle
attractiveness lies not on their ability to produce but now rely on their
ability to amuse their inhabitants in order to keep them there.