How Many Employed People Are Making No Money or Barely Any Money?

Jobs vs Employment

Today the BLS reported an astonishing jump in employment by 1.136 million compared to a mere 210,000 rise in jobs.

The employment numbers come from a household phone survey. The jobs report comes from payrolls. 

I was wondering how much of the employment jump was self-employment. Apparently none, at least judging from my chart.

Possible Explanations 

  • Some of the discrepancy might be seasonal-adjustment noise related to holiday hiring.
  • Perhaps it’s an outlier that will be revised or averaged away. 
  • Perhaps there is a bit of fraud in which people claimed to be unemployed to collect insurance and also lied on the household survey to be consistent.
  • Perhaps we will see a jump in self-employment that catches up later. 
  • Perhaps the payroll survey catches up later.  

Whatever the reason, the bond market scoffed at the jump in employment and the associated huge decline in the unemployment rate. 

Treasury yields are down again today. I will report on bonds after the market close.

Employment Definition

In the household survey, if you work as little as 1 hour a week, even selling trinkets on eBay, you are considered employed.

Regardless of the reason for the surge in employment, are the newly self-employed making any money? 

Unincorporated Self-Employment Levels 

  • In February of 2020, there were 9.38 million unincorporated self-employed.
  • At the April 2020 bottom there were 8.21 million unincorporated self-employed.
  • As of November of 2021 there are 10.00 million unincorporated self-employed.
  • From April 2020 to now, that’s an increase of 1.79 million unincorporated self-employed.

Incorporated Self-Employment Levels

  • In February of 2020, there were 6.47 million incorporated self-employed.
  • At the April 2020 bottom there were 6.41 million incorporated self-employed.
  • As of November of 2021 there are 6.36 million incorporated self-employed.
  • From April 2020 to now, that’s a decrease of about 50,000 incorporated self-employed.

Self-Employment Trend Analysis 

  • Those who incorporate are likely making a serious effort at their business. 
  • Those who don’t incorporate are far more likely to be trying something haphazardly, part-time, or just as a way to make a little spare cash (no matter how much time they spend). 
  • 1,79 million new people tried their hand at their own unincorporated business in the recovery.
  • However, 50,000 incorporated businesses threw in the towel. 

What’s Going On?

  1. Three rounds of fiscal stimulus that paid people more to be unemployed than employed provided an incentive to individuals to do anything other than going back to work at McDonalds, Wendy’s etc. 
  2. Meanwhile, numerous open job opportunities at very competitive salaries enticed 50,000 serious business owners to throw in the towel or perhaps some retired. 

So, how many of these new self-employed entrepreneurs are making any money? 

Regardless, there is 1.79 million more of them than in April 2020. 

Small Business Trends has an interesting article on Incorporated Versus Unincorporated Self Employment

Unfortunately, the above link is very dated, from January 2014. 

Key Points 

  • The Incorporated Self Employed Earn Much more
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to Have Health Insurance
  • Incorporated Self Employed are Much More Likely to be Male
  • Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be White and Asian
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be in the Middle of the Age Distribution
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be American Citizens
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be Married
  • The Incorporated Self-Employed are More Likely to be Proficient in English
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Highly Educated
  • The Incorporated and Unincorporated Self Employed Tend to Work in Different Industries and Occupations

Related Discussion

For November, the Jobs Gains Were Less Than Half the Consensus But Unemployment Rate Drops Steeply

And the unemployment rate fell by 0.4 percentage points to 4.2% compared to 4.4% pre-pandemic.

Something seems amiss. That’s what got me thinking about self-employment.

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davebarnes2
davebarnes2
2 years ago
“Those who don’t incorporate are far more likely to be trying something haphazardly” is not true.
I was self-employed from October 1996 to May 2019 and never incorporated.
Sole proprietorship was good enough for me.
I made good money.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
Please read my sentence carefully. 
I said “far more likely” and that is obviously true. 
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
 Yes something is amiss. Perhaps one should take a gaze at the comment made by Yooper (bottom).  I can personally attest the following :  A
newly  formed  corp  ( he sent me his papers) wanted to buy a single family residential property ,located on the other side of the continent,
that I had listed on craigslist sight unseen . With spider senses tingling, I asked  the prospective purchaser to send me proof  of funds.  He eagerly send me his business bank account statement which had only one deposit (credit) listed . I researched the deposit code ; it was a PPP or EIDL loan from the federal government.   The address listed on the statement pointed to an , what it looked like an abandoned trailer park in the  desert.  I asked the purchaser what name to he want to place on the property . He responded he wanted the property titled in  the name of his common law wife .   Needless  to say i was eager to sell because he was positioned to offer me full listing price.  But the deal fell through for other reasons.  Ya no wonder so many want to move here .  Murica home the free,       😉
     
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
2 years ago
The incorporation really isn’t what determines if one makes money at self-employment, however if you are successful (i.e. make money) then incorporation offers substantial tax advantages and liability advantages. In addition it costs money to incorporate so it isn’t worthwhile if the amount of money earned is low. 
So yes, incorporated vs unincorporated is worthwhile following since it allows a better understanding of the data but incorporation is the effect not the cause of making money.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
Totally agree.
QTPie
QTPie
2 years ago
This is a tough one because with W-2 wage earners you can tell what’s going on using social security withholdings to the government but with the unincorporated social security withholding happens using estimated taxes which can be unreliable, and/or happens using reconciliation at tax return time which introduces a big delay in reporting actual social security wages.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
I think a good chunk of people are incorporated and working multiple jobs.  This is why I’ve said before that there aren’t as many jobs available. The employed are only counted once and covid has allowed many people to double dip with no consequences. People are taking advantage of desperate companies who are being billed for 8 hour days when only doing 1 hour of work. Companies are saving money on Healthcare and benefits. It’s a win win. I also think a fair chunk of incorporated   individuals are just tax loopholes and getting benefits from the government as unemployed individuals. The government isn’t very smart about rooting out this fraud. And so the worm turns. 
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“Something seems amiss. That’s what got me thinking about self-employment.”
Maybe they have neglected to include the recent self-employment craze, Smash and Grab Marketing. Burbank was hit around 2:30 this morning on Magnolia Blvd., with some small shops broken into on one particular block. The 14 who were arrested in the Nordstrom S&G at The Grove, had been released, so they would have been available for more S&G marketing opportunities. Though no indication they were involved.
L.A. police Chief Moore indicated he was not too happy that The Grove 14 were out and about, during a press conference yesterday, considering his officers went to the trouble of tracking down and arresting them. LAPD does however, have the suspect of a home invasion robbery attempt in Beverly Hills, who allegedly killed philanthropist Jackie Avant during the incident. He was caught trying another robbery a short time later, after he shot himself in the foot during the process. 
Irondoor
Irondoor
2 years ago
I have been incorporated self-employed for 35 years. I tick every one of your boxes. 
  • The Incorporated Self Employed Earn Much more (Maybe, but I don’t know your definition of Much More)
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to Have Health Insurance (I do)
  • Incorporated Self Employed are Much More Likely to be Male (I am)
  • Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be White and Asian (I am Caucasion)
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be in the Middle of the Age Distribution (Past the “Middle of the Age”)
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be American Citizens (I am a Flag-waving Citizen and Veteran of a Foreign War)
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Likely to be Married (To the same woman for 43 years)
  • The Incorporated Self-Employed are More Likely to be Proficient in English (Don’t know about that, being from the South)
  • The Incorporated Self Employed are More Highly Educated (I do have a college degree. Don’t know if I’m “Highly” educated)
  • The Incorporated and Unincorporated Self Employed Tend to Work in Different Industries and Occupations (I’m in Financial Services)
I was unincorporated for a couple of years after I left the mother ship of the Big Corporation. I soon ran afoul of the IRS and after incorporating it has been smooth sailing, tax-wise, ever since.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“Something seems amiss.”
Likely applies to initial claims, too.  Claims are way down, but might not mean economic strength.  Spring 2020 there were 20 some million on UE.  States set criteria, but for most to file you need to have worked 4  out of past 5 quarters.  Assuming LIFO (last in first out) many hires from early this year could be unemployed again (supply constraints / delta / business not what cnbc says / etc) … and we wouldn’t know it from claims.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Fwiw, anybody who thinks we’re gaining economic strength is full of it. I don’t buy that story at all.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
We’ve already gained back 90% of prepandemic economic activity by most major metrics. 
Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
Is that inflation adjusted?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“Treasury yields are down again today. I will report on bonds after the market close.”
Yields are getting clubbed like a baby seal.
Probably nothing …
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
They got clubbed worse in August, and the world didn’t end. I’m still not buying this as a top. Not nearly enough evidence to suggest that. Not yet anyway. Anything can happen, of course.
Lots of fear and loathing amongst the financial intelligentsia this week, but at worst we are seeing the beginning a of a trend change. 
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Ah, but bonds are the “smart” money.  Historically, much of their moves occur while equity still partying.  By the time stocks go “uh oh” bonds near finish line.
President Xi trying to thread the needle.  He’ll fail.  Bonds know this.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
In order to get a PPP loan, do you have to be incorporated?
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Technically No – But it made it much, much easier. 
PPP loans went through banks.
Banks wanted a business account. 
Having a business account typically meant an EIN not a SSN. 
I could have easily gotten a PPP loan and had the whole thing dismissed simply by paying myself salary. 
I considered that unethical so I didn’t. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I got two PPP loans without being incorporated, and an EIDL. You don’t have to be incorporated to have an EIN.
Yooper
Yooper
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I approved over $35 million in PPP. Most important was as Mish said – a business checking account. 2nd, was proper tax filings – payroll and quarterly. Later PPP was expanded to sole proprietors.

…and again to Mish, there was so much – unethical – free money given out to business owners and it was gross, especially in the extensions. Things like dentists maximizing their own retirement funding and salary to $100k, and having all forgiven. Or companies being reimbursed for payroll that became essentially a windfall of cash. If you didn’t qualify for forgiveness, it was basically an interest-free loan.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
I’ve read that quite a few of those businesses were using that cash to buy vehicles (since they could make payroll on their own because their business wasn’t that badly affected). That’s apparently one reason why new/used vehicle prices have skyrocketed with consumers not even bothering to shop for bargains (unheard of in the car industry) since they were getting free money.
Intelligentyetidiot
Intelligentyetidiot
2 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
PPP loan was the most egregious and free money for the already wealthy.
Friend of mine in construction got it twice, more than 1 million , all forgiven.
He told me it was absolute gift from government, business was never better than during the pandemic for him.
He used the saved payroll money to buy real estate.
QTPie
QTPie
2 years ago
Yep, I know business owners as well who made an absolute killing of of the PPP loans. It’s crazy that this money was given out without really checking to make sure business owners actually needed it.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
I just could not do it.
But having an already established business account at a major bank would have made it easy. I had one for close to 20 years. 
Some rushed to create business accounts making it look suspicious, and it was. 
I had a friend who really was impacted and could have benefitted but he did not have a business account. 
For most in that class, that first round of funding dried up before they acted.
I believe Barry Ritholtz did apply and received money for staff salaries. 
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
2 years ago
The unincorporated self-employed are gig workers, free lancers and off-the books.   I’m guessing most of the increase is in the latter two.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
I’m unincorporated self-employed, been making a payroll since 1987. There are a few dinosaur sole props left.  🙂

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