I just my gasoline in Los Angeles for 4.35 per gallon. Simple solution. Make deals with Iran and Venezuela for oil. F*ck Saudi Arabia. Just read about that idiot Toomey recommending more sanctions on Russia over Nordstream 2 and Iran over selling oil to China. Punking the president to get gasoline prices up even more? I have definately noticed big oil playing politics with their fuel pricing over the years. Here in LA we are sitting on the refineries but yet we pay more for fuel even with Cali taxes removed and with no transpo costs than far flung lightly populated red state areas.
“Simple solution. Make deals with Iran and Venezuela for oil.”
Not quite.
Don’t “make deals”. Never “make deals.”
Instead, just get the heck out of the way of Americans themselves “making deals.”
No totalitarian tax feeder involvement neither required nor desired.
Just trade freely and avoid entangling alliances.
Used to be fashionable hereabouts, back in the civilized era. Before flaunting one’s level of indoctrination into abject idiocy and nothing but, as one’s sole means of getting recognized and rewarded, became the “it” thing to do; with the advent of the societal suicide cult referred to as The Progressive Movement.
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Just got back from a trip to Commiefornia.
Regular unleaded at $5.15 a gallon in San Diego. Premium was $6.05.
San Francisco was a relative bargain at just $4.95 for Regular.
Enjoy.
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Par for the course in ClownWorld.
Doug78
2 years ago
Yesterday
in a video conference with the Nation Academy of Science’s Space Studies Board
Elon Mush said some very pertinent things about energy. He was asked what he
saw for energy production and he said that the US is a very energy-intensive
civilization but all its energy needs could be met with a square of 150 miles
each side of solar panels yielding 20% efficiency. That with battery packs
using iron cathodes and lithium would take care of all our needs. Obviously
there are things like transmission and so but that is just engineering. He let
slip that Texas would be a nice place to put it so maybe I should be looking to
buy some really cheap till-now useless land there. I think I can trust his figures. His track
record is very good in that area. He did sell a good chunk of stock recently. Maybe he wants to buy something.
Lol. He said rightly so that iron and lithium are really common on Earth so he isn’t worried about supply. I believe he owns a lithium mine in Nevada. Hope they find lithium and not that useless oil under some of your properties.
I get he’s super rich, but it’s not due to his technical knowledge. Mainly due to his ability to lure people into believing in his ideas. Even after he’s been wrong time and again people still believe him. It’s amazing how gullible people are. He owns much of an immensely overvalued car company that can barely make a profit even with immense government subsidies. He’s been a complete failure in the solar industry and has an incentive to sell his solar panels. I don’t trust his knowledge on this subject.
I watched that as well, he actually wore a suit, geussing to show respect for those he considered his peers. Solar is already half the fully weighted price of fossil fuels and is falling rapidly. Utilities with corrupt politicians help are actually doing more to slow solar that anyone else with outrageous monthly grid connection fees for homeowners. Like Elon mentioned power storage is the big issue. I found his battery storage technology discussion quite interesting. Not a fanboy of Elon, he’s a paternalistic ego-maniac. However he is also Edison and Tesla rolled into one and is almost singlehandedly bringing US automotive, spaceflight, and robotic manufacturing technology to pre-imminence in the world. He is a national treasure.
He had his young son on his lap at the beginning. He is working 18 hours a day to get the Starship off and running. Should fly in January. Imagine that rocket has 2.5 time the thrust of the Saturn V! I spent a part of my early life living next to the Cap and saw three Moon shots from close up. Even from three miles away it would shake the ground. I am a space nut and always have been and always will be and have been following Musk since a long time. He is amazing. Did you see the two hour tour he gave of the Texas facility that he did a couple of months ago?
Cocoa
2 years ago
His first moves were to appease the progressives by shutting down pipelines unilaterally, which just gave the business back to the House of Saud. Now he needs to appease the general population-and the only voices he hears are white,liberal, overeducated urbanites who have never held a real job.
Anon1970
2 years ago
The country elected Joe Biden as president and now it has to live with the results.
We don’t live in a dictatorship and never have. The results are the amalgamation of everyone that was elected.
KidHorn
2 years ago
Incompetence at all levels at all times. And the media does a huge disservice by refusing to point it out.
Electric vehicles, in of themselves, will reduce CO2 emissions but they’re an environmental disaster waiting to happen. The batteries wear out in less than 10 years and they’re highly flammable and highly toxic. A battery that’s not disposed of properly and not recycled will be like a mini Chernobyl wherever they’re left to rot. So, warming will be 0.1c/decade instead of 0.105c/decade, but our land will be destroyed.
Doug78
2 years ago
What I would be worried about is the Democrats finding ways to tax the great cash flows that oil and gas companies are experiencing now. They start by demonizing them for the climate then when then they stop investing in finding new fields they necessarily generate lots of free cash. That cash building up while energy prices for the consumer are very high incurs lots of envy and avarice even if those high prices are directly caused by the present administration’s policies. It creates a perfect climate for special “tax levies” designed to “correct iniquities” and to punish “price gougers”. I wonder if owning these stocks now might be less interesting than before. Biden’s comments were not made in a vacuum in my opinion but might be part of a beginning campaign to get back some badly-needed credibility by appearing to be fighting for the little guy.
Kind of the same thing that happened with the tobacco companies. What ended up happening was municipalities issued bonds backed by tobacco penalties, so these municipalities became dependent on the tobacco companies. The same thing would happen. We would deaminize the oil companies, but at the same time, if they went away, the gov’t would lose a lot of revenue.
The tobacco companies are a very good example. I remember Peter Lynch way back in prehistory times laying out how by they were great buys because when government forbade them from advertising their cash flow exploded. The same thing is happening with oil and gas the difference now being that the Biden government plays fast and loose with their presidential decrees and the Democrats have a much more radical left lean than in the ’80’s. They have shown that they want to make life very hard for those companies because of their climate insanity and that they are in states that are Red and already lost to them. They need to limit the damage in the midterms and probably believe levying money from the oil and gas companies would be win back some waverers.
The oil companies are getting ahead of that, I think.
For instance, Jeff Bezos only uses “sustainable jet fuel” to fly to climate summits like COP26…..Know who makes sustainable jet fuel? BP, that’s who.
And as Realist pointed out, the majors are pivoting to put renewables as a priority. In five years, renewable energy companies and oil and gas companies will be hard to tell apart…..Oil and gas companies are not run by dumb people. Much virtue signaling is in progress as we speak….to make these companies compliant with ESG investing capital requirements.
I don’t think the Big Tobacco comparison really holds water, fwiw. The world HAS to use this energy. There is no choice, and that will become more self-evident with the passage of time. Any attempts to regulate or tax energy out of business will backfire in hurry.
I could definitely be wrong and i hope so since I own this
stuff. I am turning around different scenarios in my mind to see what could put
a damper on the sector. From a purely economic point of view it is clear
sailing but unfortunately we have a very unpopular president with midterms
coming up and he has to do something big soon. The tobacco story is very
appropriate in the sense that tobacco, like oil, is an addictive product which
has by government action been discouraged from spending money. Tobacco companies
spent a hell of a lot on advertising and then they had to stop. Oil companies
spent a lot on exploration and now they stopped. Cash flow explodes and as long
as prices are high they are happy. Addictive products and services are the best
investments as long as they don’t get sin-taxed to death. CO2 is sin-taxed now
so I see additional taxes for the oil sector too. Tax oil and subvention
renewables and to hell with the economic logic of it all is not going away soon
and superprofits from an “evil” product is an easy sell to many
people favored by a party which I dare not say the name.
BTW, the Democrats are going to get their clocks cleaned in the midterms, and unless Trump runs, the GOP will take the White House back in 2024. Biden only got elected because he wasn’t Trump. Hope the Republicans wake up and smell the coffee. Christie and Cheney get it. Some others, not so much.
It’s the only thing that could screw up the future for the Republicans, The ONLY thing…..so smart Republicans need to realize that Trump is a liability, not an asset.
The country, or at least the part of the population over 45 years old, doesn’t want an agenda written by Marxists in hijabs and progressive bartenders. But smart people are afraid of Trump’s delusions of grandeur and his willingness to lie like a WWF wrassler. We need to elect a more moderate Republican. Any half decent candidate gets my vote.
Christie I don’t know but Cheney was recently officially kicked out of the Wyoming Republican Party. She might run as an independent but she is history.
Whatever befalls her, make no mistake……She is a great American patriot for standing up. Worst case, she took one for the team. Obviously, money is not why she is in politics, nor is she obsessed with being popular. She should move to Austin.
I do not like nepotism in politics because it brings in second-stringers completely out of touch with the base and she is a perfect example. Have to thank her father for the lie he used to justify the US to invade Iraq. Some things I cannot pardon.
These are for people that like to use one set of numbers when one party is president and a different set when another is. It is there in the chart when they show SGS as blue and CPI-U as red which way they lean.
thimk
2 years ago
Ya typical political rhetoric . Blame someone else for a problem you caused . Actually his policies will encourage more oil and gas production due to the increased prices . DOH ! come on man .
Doug78
2 years ago
I am not bothered by this because it is not something new in his style and is part of his playbook. I would be much more interested if he had said that he was supporting increased oil and gas production by giving tax credits and that he was restoring authorization for Canadian pipelines. Now that would make me sit up and listen, otherwise there is no reason to be surprised that a dog barks.
President Cluster Fudge’s ‘playbook’ is going downhill FAST. What remains of his brain trots out the same old tax-spend-unions tripe, with absolutely no understanding of what it takes to ‘build back better’.
Call_Me
2 years ago
“”I do not accept hard-working Americans paying more for gas because of
anti-competitive or otherwise potentially illegal contact.””
How about those people paying more for gas because the purchasing power of the currency continues to be systematically diminished, is that acceptable?
Felix_Mish
2 years ago
Cue the off-shore tankers, hiding oil for the greedy oil tycoons to jack up the price while we all shiver in the dark. Many Mish readers will remember that successful story.
Next up: This crisis needs leadership and management! Smart, fair management. Price controls. Set by smart, fair, entirely dispassionate civil servants and political appointees.
But seriously, long term: Hydrocarbons are used for anything plastic. That includes a lot of clothes, for instance. They ain’t going away.
An inconvenient truth that COP26 or no other political force is addressing. A pair of polyester slacks i was wearing melted when I got to close to a fire. Pay a few bucks more and get cotton fabric.
“[3] Governments have chosen to focus on preventing climate change because, in theory, the changes that are needed to prevent climate change seem to be the same ones needed to cover the contingency of “running out.”The catch is that the indicated changes don’t really work in the scarcity situation we are already facing.”
“[4] What we really have is a huge conflict problem due to inadequate energy supplies for today’s world population. The powers that be are trying to hide this problem by publishing only their preferred version of the truth.”
Put me in the peak oil camp. I have always believed in Hubberts Peak and also read a book by Paul Roberts “The End of Oil” that it was only a matter of time when energy production would not be enough to power the worlds energy needs. Climate Change has become the buzzword for the worlds leaders, Climate change here, Climate change there, Climate change everywhere. Colour me skeptical as to the Climate Change roar.
Even if there is some truth to Climate Change, I seriously question the policies going forward. Electric Vehicles seems to be the politicians answer. Picture 1.4 billion cars plugged in and the energy needed.
Cold winter in Europe or China this year and repercussions? Again to my thoughts, world leaders clamour to the climate change hysteria to the populace when is it not a situation of energy scarcity?
“Frigid European and Asian winters will mean there is insufficient gas available to meet demand, said Massimo Di-Odoardo, vice president, gas and LNG research, at Wood Mackenzie.
“A cold European winter could boost heating demand up to 20 billion cubic metres, while a cold Asian winter could add up to 10.5 bcm of LNG demand across China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. This would take 10.5 bcm in LNG imports away from the European market,” Di-Odoardo said in a report.”
“With only 29 bcm of gas in storage, there is a risk storage levels could drop to zero. If this plays out, Europe would be wholly dependent on Russian flows above existing capacity.”
“As a result, export flows to Europe have been lower than expected,” Gloystein said. “Interestingly, Russian gas pipeline supply to China is also below expectations, much to the anger of Beijing, since China is suffering an even worse energy supply crunch than Europe.”
“But Wald warns that renewable energy cannot currently reliably power our technology-driven lifestyles, especially if some of it’s dependent on winds blowing.
“This means a major step back in the quality of life for Western countries that will be incredibly difficult, maybe impossible, to sell to people accustomed to a certain lifestyle,” Wald said.”
“SINGAPORE (Bloomberg) – Spot freight rates for liquefied natural gas tankers in the Asia-Pacific have surged to record highs as a steady flow of U.S. cargoes to the region boosts demand for ships.
The cost of chartering a vessel to carry a shipment of the super-chilled fuel from Australia to Japan spiked to $316,750 per day on Tuesday, five times higher than two months ago, according to data from Spark Commodities. That beats the previous high in January during a cold snap in Northeast Asia.
The jump comes in the run-up to the peak winter consumption season and is spurring concern among Asian buyers that colder-than-normal temperatures could be exacerbated by the shortage of ships, pushing costs of the electricity feedstock even higher.”
“SEOUL : South Korea has received a request from the United States to release oil reserves in response to rising oil prices, an official at South Korea’s industry ministry said on Thursday.
“We are thoroughly reviewing the U.S. request, but we do not release oil reserves because of rising oil prices. We could release oil reserves in case of supply imbalance, but not to respond to rising oil prices,” the industry ministry official told Reuters.
South Korea’s current petroleum stockpile reserves stand at 97 million barrels, enough for 106 days, according to the ministry official.
Reuters reported that the Biden administration has asked some of the world’s largest oil consuming nations to consider releasing some of their crude reserves in a coordinated effort to lower prices and stimulate the economic recovery.”
“Speaking at a meeting of the Valdai discussion club in Sochi late on Thursday, Putin said “there will be a moment similar to today’s situation, when the market demands [more oil] but there will be nowhere to get it from.”
He said annual upstream investment had fallen from about $400 billion in 2012-16 to around $260 billion now. This could be damaging for an industry which has investment cycles of 15 to 30 years, he added.”
What are the odds of Putins scenario where market demands more oil but there will be nowhere to get it from? Have current energy/climate change politics removed current energy supplies before alternative supposedly climate friendly activities happen?
Oil companies now are producing from current assets rather than take on new projects or expand. That scenario has been happening for several years now.
There is 1.4 billion cars on the planet. Add to that air travel, ocean traffic, etc and oil will be needed for a long time yet.
Biden wants more OPEC oil yet hinders US and Canadian gas, shuts down Keystone, etc. then blames oil companies for increases in prices. More likely looking for a scapegoat for inflation which consumers definitely notice when their filling up their tanks and buying groceries.
Does it not look highly likely that high oil prices are here to stay?
It’s funny how people are finally starting to notice and complain about inflation now that it has reached the gas pump. Then it becomes too obvious to ignore. When it used to cost $20-30 to fill up and now costs $50+, that gets people’s attention.
The majority of people associate inflation with gas and food and ignore asset inflation. When their houses or stocks go up, they think their rich but when all of a sudden their paying $100 to fill up their car ( Im in Canada) and their buying groceries, its noticeable.
Carl_R
2 years ago
re: “He ought to be happy with rising prices. The faster and greater gas
prices rise and stay high, the quicker consumers will be willing to
purchase electric vehicles. “
If we really want to decrease CO2 emissions, there is only one way, and that’s rising prices for gas and coal. That’s what he wants, so what is the problem?
Roadrunner12
2 years ago
I would side with Putin in that by targeting oil and gas companies exploration, there will come a time when the oil supply will not meet the demand. I believe that this was going to happen eventually as I side with the peak oil crowd but political policies are definitely pulling this forward. Current energy/climate change policies involve eliminating energy supplies before alternatives are available.
“Speaking at a meeting of the Valdai discussion club in Sochi late on Thursday, Putin said “there will be a moment similar to today’s situation, when the market demands [more oil] but there will be nowhere to get it from.”
He said annual upstream investment had fallen from about $400 billion in 2012-16 to around $260 billion now. This could be damaging for an industry which has investment cycles of 15 to 30 years, he added.”
Meanwhile Canada is producing near record volumes but even with the price at $80 have no plans to expand but are investing in efficiencies.
“Canada’s oil sands are inching toward record production, as the country’s biggest producers squeeze more barrels out of existing assets, but they are holding back on big spending despite some of the highest oil prices in seven years.”
I would hazard a guess in agreeing with Putin that political decisions in the support of climate change will cause a time in the near term where the market demands more oil but there is no where to get it from. It would be appropriate if it were to happen during Bidens term. It is ironic that Biden wants more cheap oil but doesnt want anyone to produce it even cancelling Keystone. Biden wants to get more oil from OPEC while hindering U.S. and Canadian production.
Currently 1.4 billion vehicles on the road and how much are EV?
Guaranteed with current climate change policies, within 10 years from now, the roar will change from climate change to a lack of fossil fuels. Inflation scare, yes and additional trillion dollar infrastructure and another trillion or so BBB.
GaryL
2 years ago
Are there any people who are so mentally defective that they’ll believe Biden when he blames gouging by the oil companies after closing oil pipelines, creating a hostile work environment for a large percentage of those involved in bringing fuel to market, and having his nominee say she wants oil companies to go bankrupt? Of course!!!
One-armed Economist
2 years ago
Mish, you are a “Biden Bash” in search of a topic. THIS IS TRUE: “In the last month the price of unfinished gasoline is down 5% while gas at the pump is up 3%.” LOOK AT THE NYMEX RBOB CONTRACT.
For starters, prices do not act immediately. Second, Biden allows no possibility of increased refining costs.
Did the labor costs, transportation costs, insurance costs, and the cost of chemicals used in refining go up more than the unrefined input costs went down?
We tend to think as ‘price’ as the cost of production and the relative levels of supply and demand. Create an environment where the expectation is for prices to increase (for either demand or supply), and prices will increase. We are currently in a ‘future inflation expected’ environment. What better time to nudge up prices?
shamrock
2 years ago
Domestic oil, gas and coal production are all up this year. The 2020 drop in the price of those commodities to extremely low levels wiped out 40% of production, how is that Biden’s fault?
The same way that everything ‘bad’ that happened was Trump’s fault?
At the end of the day, it is all about ‘information content’ from statements and actions. Look to what a president (and administration) says and does for the ultimate impact. For example, illegal immigration. Biden conveyed information to the effect that borders were ‘open’. Guess what happened. Convey information that coal is ‘bad’ and investment in coal mining declines. Some mines close, so supply costs more. Ditto with oil–stopping pipelines, limiting leases etc, and considering closing other pipelines… That said, energy demand is also higher coming out of Covid.
It’s not entirely Biden’s fault, but some of it is. The US produced more oil than it exported under Trump, but under Biden it will likely never happen. Many of his policies try to restrict oil and gas development.
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in a video conference with the Nation Academy of Science’s Space Studies Board
Elon Mush said some very pertinent things about energy. He was asked what he
saw for energy production and he said that the US is a very energy-intensive
civilization but all its energy needs could be met with a square of 150 miles
each side of solar panels yielding 20% efficiency. That with battery packs
using iron cathodes and lithium would take care of all our needs. Obviously
there are things like transmission and so but that is just engineering. He let
slip that Texas would be a nice place to put it so maybe I should be looking to
buy some really cheap till-now useless land there. I think I can trust his figures. His track
record is very good in that area. He did sell a good chunk of stock recently. Maybe he wants to buy something.
stuff. I am turning around different scenarios in my mind to see what could put
a damper on the sector. From a purely economic point of view it is clear
sailing but unfortunately we have a very unpopular president with midterms
coming up and he has to do something big soon. The tobacco story is very
appropriate in the sense that tobacco, like oil, is an addictive product which
has by government action been discouraged from spending money. Tobacco companies
spent a hell of a lot on advertising and then they had to stop. Oil companies
spent a lot on exploration and now they stopped. Cash flow explodes and as long
as prices are high they are happy. Addictive products and services are the best
investments as long as they don’t get sin-taxed to death. CO2 is sin-taxed now
so I see additional taxes for the oil sector too. Tax oil and subvention
renewables and to hell with the economic logic of it all is not going away soon
and superprofits from an “evil” product is an easy sell to many
people favored by a party which I dare not say the name.
anti-competitive or otherwise potentially illegal contact.””
“Frigid European and Asian winters will mean there is insufficient gas available to meet demand, said Massimo Di-Odoardo, vice president, gas and LNG research, at Wood Mackenzie.
“A cold European winter could boost heating demand up to 20 billion cubic metres, while a cold Asian winter could add up to 10.5 bcm of LNG demand across China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. This would take 10.5 bcm in LNG imports away from the European market,” Di-Odoardo said in a report.”
“But Wald warns that renewable energy cannot currently reliably power our technology-driven lifestyles, especially if some of it’s dependent on winds blowing.
“This means a major step back in the quality of life for Western countries that will be incredibly difficult, maybe impossible, to sell to people accustomed to a certain lifestyle,” Wald said.”
“SINGAPORE (Bloomberg) – Spot freight rates for liquefied natural gas tankers in the Asia-Pacific have surged to record highs as a steady flow of U.S. cargoes to the region boosts demand for ships.
The cost of chartering a vessel to carry a shipment of the super-chilled fuel from Australia to Japan spiked to $316,750 per day on Tuesday, five times higher than two months ago, according to data from Spark Commodities. That beats the previous high in January during a cold snap in Northeast Asia.
The jump comes in the run-up to the peak winter consumption season and is spurring concern among Asian buyers that colder-than-normal temperatures could be exacerbated by the shortage of ships, pushing costs of the electricity feedstock even higher.”
link to channelnewsasia.com
“We are thoroughly reviewing the U.S. request, but we do not release oil reserves because of rising oil prices. We could release oil reserves in case of supply imbalance, but not to respond to rising oil prices,” the industry ministry official told Reuters.
South Korea’s current petroleum stockpile reserves stand at 97 million barrels, enough for 106 days, according to the ministry official.
Reuters reported that the Biden administration has asked some of the world’s largest oil consuming nations to consider releasing some of their crude reserves in a coordinated effort to lower prices and stimulate the economic recovery.”
link to energyintel.com
He said annual upstream investment had fallen from about $400 billion in 2012-16 to around $260 billion now. This could be damaging for an industry which has investment cycles of 15 to 30 years, he added.”
prices rise and stay high, the quicker consumers will be willing to
purchase electric vehicles. “
“Speaking at a meeting of the Valdai discussion club in Sochi late on Thursday, Putin said “there will be a moment similar to today’s situation, when the market demands [more oil] but there will be nowhere to get it from.”
He said annual upstream investment had fallen from about $400 billion in 2012-16 to around $260 billion now. This could be damaging for an industry which has investment cycles of 15 to 30 years, he added.”
For starters, prices do not act immediately. Second, Biden allows no possibility of increased refining costs.
Did the labor costs, transportation costs, insurance costs, and the cost of chemicals used in refining go up more than the unrefined input costs went down?