Investigating the Claim “Speculative Shorts Driving Gold Lower”

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pgp
pgp
5 years ago

For the first time in a while gold is down against all currencies. Normally the USD-centric views on gold overlook USD changes. However the price of oil just tanked and of course gold generally follows oil price, since it takes fossil fuel to produce bullion. Yes its paper gold but it is still influenced by the basic rule of commodities – they’re intrinsically linked to oil. The analysts falling over themselves for their moment in the spotlight are as usual spouting rubbish. Inevitably they are the mouthpieces that manipulate sentiment so that the commercial traders can profit from the overshoot.

RobinBanks
RobinBanks
5 years ago

He should ask why Russia has debt to gdp of 10% and a tax rate of 13%. It’s called seeing your country being crushed by socialism and neoliberalism and doing something about it. He should ask why Russia is buying physical gold and not paper.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

Amazing to think that the single Russian ship which sunk 113 years ago, now being salvaged, contains 1/10 as much gold as all the gold held by Russia today.

Stuki
Stuki
5 years ago

Now let’s hope Putin really has the influence over Trump the ditto heads insists he has, and straightens out our Clown in Chief’s misguided belief that there is something, anything whatsoever, positive about having money printed into thin air by a bunch of privileged halfwits.

RobinBanks
RobinBanks
5 years ago

Not everyone has been shorting gold recently.

RonJ
RonJ
5 years ago

Looks like the inverse of the recent move in the dollar. Doesn’t look like anything special to me. The gold shorts just happen to be on the right side of the current move in the dollar.

In a trade chat room yesterday, one guy said he just covered his short of SLV.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

It’s also possible that recent news has affected the price of gold

Roger_Ramjet
Roger_Ramjet
5 years ago

Net positions seem to be fairly balanced, similar to a purely hedged market neutral strategy. You wouldn’t expect to see wild price swings under such circumstances. I’m wondering if the COT is picking up everyone’s activity. For instance, is central bank activity included in the report, or could they have arranged for an exemption from the report? Sure its a very cynical view, but, hey, its the times we live in.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

Exactly, blacklisted. It is, indeed, possible for a manipulator to sell, pushing the price lower, however, he can’t hold that position forever. In time he must buy it back, which produces an equal and opposite effect.

Hearing this constant claim gets tedious, but it’s actually much, much worse than that. The constant claim that gold is controlled by price manipulators has to hurt the price of gold. If the price of gold is actually controlled by manipulators, no sane person who is acting rationally would ever even consider owning it.

Mish
Mish
5 years ago

I do not believe manipulators can change the trend either. They can goose it, but not change it.

blacklisted
blacklisted
5 years ago

The Gold bugs have been using this excuse, along with QE and others to justify why they’ve been wrong for 6 yrs. When gold finally does lift off with the collapse of confidence, will they be complaining about the normal manipulations for profit? Manipulators can’t change the trend.

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