Mask Burning Rally in Idaho, What My Shot Was Like, Business Reopening Decisions

Mask Burning in Idaho

In Idaho, 150 people rallied at the state capital and over 30 cites organized Mask Burning Rallies

Top Official Ousted Over Covid-19 Deaths at Veterans Nursing Homes Remained on N.J. Payroll for Months

The Wall Street Journal reports Top Official Ousted Over Covid-19 Deaths at Veterans Nursing Homes Remained on N.J. Payroll for Months

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy ousted a top state official in mid-October as part of a reckoning over the Covid-19 crisis at the state’s nursing homes for veterans, but the official was never fired, state records show.

Rather, Maj. Gen. Jemal Beale, the former commissioner of the state’s military and veterans agency, was allowed to resign on Jan. 1 of this year despite Mr. Murphy announcing on Oct. 16 that Gen. Beale was being replaced “effective immediately,” according to personnel records and state officials.

In addition to saving face, Gen. Beale’s arrangement allowed him to fully cash in on his unused vacation days.Open for Business

The Oct. 16 leadership change came 10 days after a Wall Street Journal article detailed the agency’s mishandling of a Covid-19 outbreak at the Menlo Park Veterans Memorial Home in Edison, N.J. The Journal’s investigation showed the state chronically underreported deaths at the facility, where more than 100 residents died of the virus. 

Worried About Florida

UK Variant Spreading

My Painless Vaccine Experience

I received my first Moderna vaccine shot last Thursday. 

The best word to describe my experience is “Painless”. 

This was the quickest, least painful shot I ever had. Normally, I tense up, find the jab initially painful, and then I usually have some after effects. 

After shots everyone waited in a room for 15 minutes with observers, who in my case observed I was fine. I had no pain or soreness in that time.

I developed very mild soreness the next day with an emphasis on “very minor”.

This is in contrast to a Shingles vaccine last year after which I was tired and had cold-like symptoms for a fewsdays. After a Tetnus shot my arm was noticeably sore for a few days.

Trump’s Vaccine

Many may not be aware that Trump was vaccinated in January, before he left office. 

He did not promote this until the CPAC conference. Speculation runs rampant as to why. 

The Rolling Stone offers this reason: Trump Got Vaccinated Secretly, Because Otherwise He Might Have Helped the Country

Rachel Maddow made this claim on March 1, “While he was president, President Trump never encouraged Americans to get vaccinated.”

Fact Check: False

Open For Business

On March 3, I reported Two States Fully Reopen All Businesses at Full Capacity Without Masks

The two states are Texas and Mississippi. 

A bill in North Dakota that would ban mask mandates by state and local officials, schools and businesses has passed the state’s House of Representatives and is awaiting a vote in the Senate. 

Tough Business Decision

Just because Texas and Mississippi do not require masks does not mean corporations will remove the ban. 

The move in North Dakota is absolutely crazy. It would prohibit masks even in nursing homes.

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Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

“As America’s covid-19 toll passes 500,000, in Britain inoculations are helping to reduce deaths and hospitalisations”

Which is exactly what I said. The vaccine does not make you immune, only reduces the possibility that you will get sick enough to have to enter the hospital, which is generally a step or two before they might be reading you your last rites.

However, the MSM and many people DO BELIEVE that the vaccine gives them some degree of “immunity”.

But only 10% of the USA is fully Covid vaccinated (20% partially), yet Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths are falling like a rock off a cliff, which should tell intelligent people that it isn’t the vaccine that is responsible.

People are gaining immunity independently and the virus is running out of potential victims. This how most viruses work most of the time.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago

Too many people are operating under the mistaken assumption that Covid vaccines impart Covid immunity to people. ‘Taint so. All the vaccines do is redcue the probability of an infection turning serious and requiring hospitalization. You can still get Covid and you can still transmit it to others.

Coronavirus vaccine unlikely to stop infection, World Health Organisation says
It’s being hailed as our only way out of the pandemic – but the WHO has warned a vaccine is unlikely to stop one of the biggest problems with coronavirus.
December 29, 2020

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Yes. It will become another flu shot every year to reduce risk. Viruses mutate all the time. There are 33 known strains of coronavirus. Until we get to herd immunity masks should be worn.

aprnext
aprnext
3 years ago

Kindly don’t place these three words in sequence: herd immunity masks. Masks only prevent clear conversation. The herd immunity part is 100% correct. Look, I’ve been patiently informing folks about the Cambridge Medical Hospital study of 1981 for months to no avail, so, here comes a lesson in geometry: The Mask Aperture. Take a Google flight over the Golden Gate Bridge. Note the distance from one end t’other. take the base as the Bay itself. Now draw an arc across the Bridge suspension struts. Got it? OK, now imagine that nearly half arc covering God only knows how much acreage. Got it????? Well, imagine a teeny tiiiiny row boat anxiously attempting to navigate across the baseline of that arc. That there row boat is the virus. NOTHING IS EVER GONNA STOP THE FECK’N THING FROM MAKING ITS JOURNEY. Got it????

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago

Ha! I wonder if this will also apply to Covid masks?

MARCH 7, 2021
Swiss agree to outlaw facial coverings in ‘burqa ban’ vote

ZURICH (Reuters) – A far-right proposal to ban facial coverings in Switzerland won a narrow victory in a binding referendum on Sunday instigated by the same group that organized a 2009 ban on new minarets.

The measure to amend the Swiss constitution passed by a 51.2-48.8% margin, provisional official results showed.

The proposal under the Swiss system of direct democracy does not mention Islam directly and also aims to stop violent street protesters from wearing masks, yet local politicians, media and campaigners have dubbed it the burqa ban.
….

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago

Maxx2000
Maxx2000
3 years ago

Vaccination is a 200+ year technology. I hope more idiots are convinced to not get a vaccine so that I can get my shot sooner.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago
Reply to  Maxx2000

DNA altering ones are totally new and insufficiently battle tested…. Hey but it is actually great that a mayority of msm brainwashed people are willing to play guinea pig, so sceptics like me can lay back and observe what happens….

Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

You are right. DNA altering vaccines are not battle tested because they do not exist. RNA vaccines do however and are battle-tested.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

Some scientists say it does… and are being banned from social media… Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are not , whatever ! In Belgium, Covid vaccine sceptic doctors are being suspended from exercising their profession, that s what we got to ! But tell me Doug, when before in history, have RNA vaccines been tested en masse ? …Unless of course you refer to the trial phases in october november 2020 ?

Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

Banned from social media but not banned from the internet as a whole. Find the papers and show me their work. RNA vaccines have been under development for several years for other viruses such as influenza, HIV and Zika. RNA medications have also been authorized for a while now. The first was Onpattro, a medication approved in the US and EU in 2018, which treats nerve damage authorized in 2018. By all means don’t get vaccinated if you don’t want it. No one cares if you do or not.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

Here’s some RNA?DNA vaccine reading for you Doug78. It’s pretty long so I don’t know if you will be able to focus long enough to get through it but give it a go.

Feb 22, 2021
Synthetic mRNA Covid vaccines: A Risk-Benefit Analysis With a “vaccine” based on untested technology, and safety trials still ongoing, is it safe to take the shot? And does it even work? And does a disease with an IFR of 0.2% even justify that risk?
Sadaf Gilani

Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Focused enough? Really? You are talking to someone who knows this field intimately.

Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Read it all. It’s a grab bag of every objection one can think of against RNA vaccines. It starts out by saying covid infections are 16 times overstated and uses that to claim the vaccines do not work. Then she throws in objections because they are new that they will cause an impressive number of diseases down the road. One of her experts claim:

“In the longer term, she suspects we’ll see a significant uptick in migraines, tics, Parkinson’s disease, microvascular disorders, different cancers, including prostate cancer, severe pain syndromes like fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis, bladder problems, kidney disease, psychosis, neurodegenerative diseases such as Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS) and sleep disorders, including narcolepsy. In young children, autism-like symptoms are likely to develop as well, she thinks.”

This is the “Kitchen Sink” argument and she adds a few more. She finishes by saying the Pharma companies have violated the Nuremberg code which means they are Nazis. The length of the article is impressive but the content isn’t.

The author is a professor at Princess Nora bint Abdul Rahman University in Riyadh Saudi Arabia and her published papers deal in Pharmacology.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

Well, it certainly is possible that there will be long-term effects that won’t show up for years. That’s why months long vaccine development probably isn’t a great idea.

I seem to recall a few people here making a big stink a while back about long-term effects of Covid on people who had it, after less than one year of Covid infections.

Is there a difference between the two comparisons? I say no.

I will wait a couple/three years before taking one of these vaccines while I wait to see if any of you beta testers grow that proverbial extra limb or whatever. After all, these vaccines don’t promise immunity, just a less serious infection to the very small percentage of people who will actually wind up in the hospital.

As to her speciality being pharmacology, I don ‘t know if that should preclude her from writing about vaccines, especially given all the medical consultants talking on CNN/MSNBC/etc., many of whom range from emergency room MD’s to even nurses.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

You sound like Trump. “Some” say this. This is happening to “some” people.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago

Redneck virtue signaling.

RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

You are ignoring the science in masks.

From the CDCs own website:

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza
virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza
transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25)

aprnext
aprnext
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ

WHAT? the CDC is actually, really, following ‘the’ science???? I had no idea

inonothing
inonothing
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

Influenza was reduced in 2020.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  inonothing

If by reduced you mean almost entirely eliminated, then yep. 1 child death from it this season vs over 200 normally. All the other flu stats are in line with this.

dguillor
dguillor
3 years ago

Idaho is surreal. A state legislator has been pushing to reject Federal funds to improve early childhood education because it makes it easier for women to work outside the house and destroys the nuclear family.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  dguillor

Can’t really be surprised. These are the same people that want to go back to 1950. That world doesn’t exist anymore.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago

….As far as Trump’s vaccination is concerned and the predictable subsequent stupid comments, it should be said and confirmed that he definitely and even desperately so wanted a vaccine asap and that he really did stimulate people getting it, cf operation Warp Speed …

hhabana
hhabana
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

I agree with you. NOBODY is giving him any credit for OWS. He was pushing this and you got to accept this. Of course, the biased goons here don’t want to see this.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago

….Mish, whether your jab was painful or not is quite irrelevant, no immediate side effects is of course great, I know some people who got very sick after Pfizer and Astra Zeneca shots, but even that lacks importance, ALL that matters from now on is REAL effectiveness and possible long term side effects, for those are the big unknowns so far. You and m(b)illions of people with you are mere guinea pigs, I won’ t have any shot till several aspects and unanswered questions related with this desperate, overhurried vaccination campaign have been sorted out. Congrats with your shot anyway and good luck in particular !

Quatloo
Quatloo
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

What are the “aspects and unanswered questions” you are referring to?

hhabana
hhabana
3 years ago
Reply to  Quatloo

They don’t know what happens with that mRNA. Scientists with these companies say it dissipates, but you have enzymes that can read that mRNA and have that DNA inserted with your own DNA. I read a great article from a scientist and too many unknowns. He said it would take several years to have an idea what or if any consequences of Pfizer or Moderna’s vaccines.

There are safer vaccines coming down the pike.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

Are vaccines really efficient ? Against ALL strains ? How long for ? Do we really need two shots and what s the best interval between two shots ? 3 weeks, or even 3 months like some ‘experts’ say ? Can vacccinated people still get sick with C19 albeit with suppressed symptons, and would it still wreak internal havoc ? Can those people still transmit the disease ? What will the new DNA altering medicines do with our system in general ? Plenty of unanswered questions for critical minds, aren t there ? ….and don t tell me you have the answers…

Quatloo
Quatloo
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels

There is certainly evidence two shots are unnecessary

There are questions on how effective it is on obese people

Also, the fact that these are the first mRNA vaccines used on humans means we don’t know anything about the long-term risks

timbers
timbers
3 years ago

Mish needs to read this, and REVISE his libertarian love of evil corporate monopolies like Apple, FakeBood, Amazon, Google, etc:

link to mattstoller.substack.com

Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago

I’ve lost a couple of rural online and several local acquaintances to Covid. Over 60’s and drinking the partisan coolaid got them killed. Got it by not wearing masks/family gatherings. Not as bad as Jim Jones but similar kinds of stupidity. Darwin is alive and well. Their families are heartbroken and wish they behaved differently now. In some cases I’ve heard folks don’t even accept it was Covid that killed their relatives. Hard to believe what has happened over the last year plus. T-cell tests are available now that are far more accurate over a much longer period since one had Covid to confim if one has had Covid. link to t-detect.com. I want to confirm I had it in December of 2019. Will take next week. If positive will prob wait for the boosters for the new variants.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Jackula

Darwin can’t do his work after the morons have spawned.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jackula

Bullcrap! I’ve seen plenty of stories circulating over the past year of people who followed all the Covid protocols, washed their hand 90 times a day, didn’t touch their face, etc., etc. and still got the bug.

Meanwhile, someone like myself who doesn’t follow the protocols at all, doesn’t wear a mask outdoors, wears it sloppily in stores, loose and below my nose and probably doesn’t wash my hands everytime I touch something remains in excellent health.

If you’re going to get it, you’re going to get it…

Rbm
Rbm
3 years ago

Im following news from manus Brazil. There second wave is just as deadly as first. With 70 percent of the population infected in first wave. About 6 months after first wave. Seems to me our numbers are falling because of the big spike over the holidays. The post peak immunity combined with the vaccine and social distance are dropping the infection rate. 6 months from now a good chunk of the population will be unvaccinated by their choice with a fully opened economy. Will we get a big spike i dont know. I just feel it will still be out there and just as dangerous for those who get infected. Have not seen the stats lately of the percent of the the us population That has been infected so far. 30 percents my guess

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Rbm

There have been 29.6 million positive tests in the US, equal to about 8.9% of the population. If six people had Covid (or had cross immunity from a cold-type coronavirs) for ever person who tested positive, that would mean that 62.3% of the population has had Covid. We really don’t know what the proper adjustment is, but it acts like it is about 6. I don’t expect any more waves, but no one knows for sure.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

What are your thoughts on the new strain that is working its way through the world ? Looks like J&J vaccine may have better protection against these mutant strains due to be trialed at the same time these strains were working their way through South Africa and Brazil.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago

There are many new strains, from California, New York, South Africa, Brazil, and England. All claim to be faster to spread, and they also appear to be more deadly. There is a youtube video by MedCram that discusses many of them. According them them, while antibodes have diminished effect against them, they are still effective at neutralizing them. Since vaccines give us higher levels of antibodies than the actual virus, we should have some immunity to the variants. We might have a mild case, but the chances of a severe one should be low.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2
3 years ago

Statistically, the second Moderna jab is “worse”.
My two shots were about equal—18-24 hours of semi-crap.
Age 72.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
3 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2

My first Moderna dose caused no symptoms beyond a mildly sore arm the day after.

The second Moderna dose caused me to mount a significant immune response, and I had fever and chills starting about 12 hours after the jab….and I felt mildly sick and very fatigued for another day.

Makes me think the first shot was effective, that’s all.

Age 65.

The question now is whether the Moderna protects you against the new variants. Hopefully we will know more soon.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

Current data says that the vaccines still provide good protection from the new variants, but you might have a mild case from it.

I got my first jab today, the Pfizer. It was organized chaos and the vaccination site. they were doing 900 jabs an hour, 8000 on the day. It took only an hour, including the mandatory 15 minute wait after the shot before leaving.

yanee
yanee
3 years ago

at this point the opposing side has to wear two masks to prove… whatever the opposite of burning them is. turns out there’s a lot of dumb people but thankfully they’re still a minority.

wear a mask.

congrats on getting the vaccine. the rest of us will join you soon.

Tengen
Tengen
3 years ago

Would respect the mask burning crowd much more if I wasn’t old enough to remember them gleefully sacrificing every freedom they could think of post 9/11. We got the Patriot Act, TSA at airports, artificially low interest rates, and more during that time.

Compared to that, not only are masks small potatoes, they were temporary!

Greenmountain
Greenmountain
3 years ago

Sad commentary on our capacity to sacrifice for the community good. It is not only deaths, but hospitalizations. The mask are a pain in the butt – but wearing them is a small simple sacrifice. Why not??? And shows off your gorgeous eyes.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
3 years ago

Mask wearing in Austin is already down since the Abbott announcement, even though it technically isn’t supposed to be effective until Wednesday.

In the outdoor equipment store today where I was picking up a chain for my chainsaw it was less that 50/50 with a shop full of what looked mostly like landscapers, dropping serious money for tree-trimming equipment after the storm. They were doing a brisk business. Most of the employees were maskless too.

At a trendy East Side bakery and brunch restaurant where we caught a late breakfast…..filled with students and other 20 somethings, masks were still being required indoors , but the gaggle handing around outside the entrance getting coffee and pastries for the road was mostly bare-faced. Very different than even a week ago.

We’ll just have to see how this works out. It’s politically driven. If Republican governors can get rid of masking BEFORE Biden’s “100 days” and we don’t suffer a new surge, then they can avoid giving him credit for beating COVID. Real genius thinking, as usual.

On the other hand, if their optimism turns out to be premature, they’ll look like real morons and people will hold them accountable for the extra deaths…..of course, they will still blame it on somebody else, probably Biden.

Anda
Anda
3 years ago

What to say. The whole show is all over the place, in terms of politics and economy, in terms of societal adaptation and effectiveness of measures using wider metrics , in terms of true infection rates and so immunities, in terms of strength of immunities (whether natural or after vaccine), in terms of new strains and vaccination ambitions. A diciplined chaos , like being observers of our own confusion and being thankful for it because someone is telling us what that means. Here is a pessimistic outlook just for example

but there are all kinds and I question the infection level he uses there…but at least he admits he is guessing.

Guess away.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

i got the shingles vaccine a last year or so. the only side effect was that my arm felt sore like someone punched it both times, after the first shot and when i came back for the second. Pharmacist says its common but nobody knows why. The theory is its related to the preservatives used.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

The reason I have heard is that the soreness is a sign that your immune system has been triggered, and is active.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

if masks served no purpose, doctors and nurses wouldn’t use them in operating rooms and hospitals. its ridiculous. Mary Trump opines that Trump wouldn’t roll up his sleeve for a public vaccination out of fear it might show weakness. The mask burning just plays into the huge anti-science and anti-authority movement taking over the country. Close to a 1/3 of the country is afraid of getting vaccinated.

aprnext
aprnext
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

Hmmm. refer thee to the 1981 Cambridge University Medical hospital study on the efficacy of mask wearing in surgical theaters. should be easy to find on the internet. Fascinating conclusions, accepted by the hospital administrators but of course never implemented.

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

In studies of Social mood, Robert Prechter identified fear, mystical thinking and authoritarian/ anti-authoritarian activity as symptoms of negative social mood. The list of symptoms is much longer.

hhabana
hhabana
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

A lot of people don’t trust the mRNA vaccines because they were rushed through like all the vaccines to deal with the pandemic. It’s called “choice.” The J&J vaccine works via a different method as does the vaccine from Novavax.

If you follow the news, besides age, obesity plays a big part of dying from this infection. American’s are fat if you haven’t noticed. The vaccine is not as effective in the obese. A lot of American’s eat junk food. I work with a young guy in his 30’s and doesn’t like vegetables. For a lot of American’s, the only vegetable they get is on top of a burger at McDonald’s. Many women have forgotten to cook a meal for their families due to lack of interest, no introductory home economics at school, or exhausted after working all day at a job. It used to be a traditional role that women would cook meals for their families. I have a female friend that orders out a lot for her family. Her husband has a good job. She and her daughter are BIG. You reap what you sow in this life.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
3 years ago

Pfizer last Monday. Must have been the world’s thinnest needle. Snapping sound was about the only thing I experienced consciously.

10 hours later the shoulder felt like I’d bumped in to something – when I noticed it. Soreness gone next day. Follow-up poll system (vsafe.cdc.gov) seems well implemented. Takes 5 seconds per day to report good health.

A brother reports the same thing for shot 1. He had fever and such for a couple days from shot 2. I’m not looking forward to that, so may consider skipping shot 2.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago

I’m noticing a higher percentage of people on local hiking trails no longer wearing masks here in my slice of the SF Bay Area. Perhaps 30% w/o masks now. Hoping to see 50% once the weather warms further. Most people out on the streets still wearing masks though, like the dutiful little Sheepl that most are.

xilduq
xilduq
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

my 53 yr old brother is in icu with pneumonia in both lungs caused by covid. in his words, his immune system’s response was one of “scorched earth”. says he’s “on high dose steroids, diuretics, blood thinner, and like six other things”. but no big deal right? it’s just a little flu according to those with “superior” minds…

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  xilduq

Perhaps your brother didn’t have good genes that were strong enough to resist the infection? So tell us more about your brother. Did he have any comorbidities? Was he overweight? Did he smoke or vape tobacco or pot? How was his diet? Did he exercise regularly?

MOST people don’t get sick and of those who do, MOST have mild enough cases that don’t require them to go to the hospital. I know you want to make your particular individual case representative of the whole world, but sorry, it isn’t.

Heyyah
Heyyah
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

How can you call people sheep for not wanting to take even the smallest chance they might cause someone to suffer or die? Wearing a mask isn’t hard. No one wants wear one, but for you to portray someone as mindless because they choose not to force this risk onto people around them is ignorant.
I would love not to wear a mask but I’d rather not take the chance. It’s not because the media tells me to, it’s because I don’t value my comfort over the greater good.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Heyyah

As I and others have said over and over and over again, consumer masks do little to nothing to block viruses. Maybe if you wear 3 of them, that would help but that is an unreasonable ask.

People wearing masks are most definitely NOT doing it to protect others. They are wearing masks because they believe that masks protect THEMSELVES from the virus!

Masks do restrict breathing. If you say they don’t restrict breathing, then how are they supposed to block a virus? In my case, my nose tends to run in cool weather and air conditioning , which doesn’t work well behind a mask when I have to keep taking it down to wipe my nose.

People are responsible for themselves. Don’t depend on other people.

numike
numike
3 years ago

they are part and parcel with these people: Anti-Vaxxers Misuse Federal Data to Falsely Claim COVID Vaccines Are Dangerous VAERS, a database of reports of vaccine side effects, is being abused by people trying to sow fear. It’s not the first time. link to vice.com

Greenmountain
Greenmountain
3 years ago
Reply to  numike

Love it – Our body, our choice. Hope they also apply that to woman of child bearing age….

Anda
Anda
3 years ago
Reply to  Greenmountain

…and to the child they may be carrying.

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