Mask Burning Rally in Idaho, What My Shot Was Like, Business Reopening Decisions

Mish

Here a Covid potpourri for discussion of widely varying topics.

Mask Burning in Idaho

In Idaho, 150 people rallied at the state capital and over 30 cites organized Mask Burning Rallies. 

Top Official Ousted Over Covid-19 Deaths at Veterans Nursing Homes Remained on N.J. Payroll for Months

The Wall Street Journal reports Top Official Ousted Over Covid-19 Deaths at Veterans Nursing Homes Remained on N.J. Payroll for Months

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy ousted a top state official in mid-October as part of a reckoning over the Covid-19 crisis at the state’s nursing homes for veterans, but the official was never fired, state records show.

Rather, Maj. Gen. Jemal Beale, the former commissioner of the state’s military and veterans agency, was allowed to resign on Jan. 1 of this year despite Mr. Murphy announcing on Oct. 16 that Gen. Beale was being replaced “effective immediately,” according to personnel records and state officials.

In addition to saving face, Gen. Beale’s arrangement allowed him to fully cash in on his unused vacation days.Open for Business

The Oct. 16 leadership change came 10 days after a Wall Street Journal article detailed the agency’s mishandling of a Covid-19 outbreak at the Menlo Park Veterans Memorial Home in Edison, N.J. The Journal’s investigation showed the state chronically underreported deaths at the facility, where more than 100 residents died of the virus. 

Worried About Florida

UK Variant Spreading

My Painless Vaccine Experience

I received my first Moderna vaccine shot last Thursday. 

The best word to describe my experience is "Painless". 

This was the quickest, least painful shot I ever had. Normally, I tense up, find the jab initially painful, and then I usually have some after effects. 

After shots everyone waited in a room for 15 minutes with observers, who in my case observed I was fine. I had no pain or soreness in that time.

I developed very mild soreness the next day with an emphasis on "very minor".

This is in contrast to a Shingles vaccine last year after which I was tired and had cold-like symptoms for a fewsdays. After a Tetnus shot my arm was noticeably sore for a few days.

Trump's Vaccine

Many may not be aware that Trump was vaccinated in January, before he left office. 

He did not promote this until the CPAC conference. Speculation runs rampant as to why. 

The Rolling Stone offers this reason: Trump Got Vaccinated Secretly, Because Otherwise He Might Have Helped the Country

Rachel Maddow made this claim on March 1, "While he was president, President Trump never encouraged Americans to get vaccinated."

Fact Check: False

Get Those Shots Everyone

Open For Business

On March 3, I reported Two States Fully Reopen All Businesses at Full Capacity Without Masks

The two states are Texas and Mississippi. 

A bill in North Dakota that would ban mask mandates by state and local officials, schools and businesses has passed the state’s House of Representatives and is awaiting a vote in the Senate. 

Tough Business Decision

Just because Texas and Mississippi do not require masks does not mean corporations will remove the ban. 

The move in North Dakota is absolutely crazy. It would prohibit masks even in nursing homes.

Mish

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numike
numike

they are part and parcel with these people: Anti-Vaxxers Misuse Federal Data to Falsely Claim COVID Vaccines Are Dangerous VAERS, a database of reports of vaccine side effects, is being abused by people trying to sow fear. It's not the first time. https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjpmp7/anti-vaxxers-misuse-federal-data-to-falsely-claim-covid-vaccines-are-dangerous

Jojo
Jojo

I'm noticing a higher percentage of people on local hiking trails no longer wearing masks here in my slice of the SF Bay Area. Perhaps 30% w/o masks now. Hoping to see 50% once the weather warms further. Most people out on the streets still wearing masks though, like the dutiful little Sheepl that most are.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

Pfizer last Monday. Must have been the world's thinnest needle. Snapping sound was about the only thing I experienced consciously.

10 hours later the shoulder felt like I'd bumped in to something - when I noticed it. Soreness gone next day. Follow-up poll system (vsafe.cdc.gov) seems well implemented. Takes 5 seconds per day to report good health.

A brother reports the same thing for shot 1. He had fever and such for a couple days from shot 2. I'm not looking forward to that, so may consider skipping shot 2.

Sechel
Sechel

if masks served no purpose, doctors and nurses wouldn't use them in operating rooms and hospitals. its ridiculous. Mary Trump opines that Trump wouldn't roll up his sleeve for a public vaccination out of fear it might show weakness. The mask burning just plays into the huge anti-science and anti-authority movement taking over the country. Close to a 1/3 of the country is afraid of getting vaccinated.

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aprnext
aprnext

Hmmm. refer thee to the 1981 Cambridge University Medical hospital study on the efficacy of mask wearing in surgical theaters. should be easy to find on the internet. Fascinating conclusions, accepted by the hospital administrators but of course never implemented.

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

In studies of Social mood, Robert Prechter identified fear, mystical thinking and authoritarian/ anti-authoritarian activity as symptoms of negative social mood. The list of symptoms is much longer.

Sechel
Sechel

i got the shingles vaccine a last year or so. the only side effect was that my arm felt sore like someone punched it both times, after the first shot and when i came back for the second. Pharmacist says its common but nobody knows why. The theory is its related to the preservatives used.

Anda
Anda

What to say. The whole show is all over the place, in terms of politics and economy, in terms of societal adaptation and effectiveness of measures using wider metrics , in terms of true infection rates and so immunities, in terms of strength of immunities (whether natural or after vaccine), in terms of new strains and vaccination ambitions. A diciplined chaos , like being observers of our own confusion and being thankful for it because someone is telling us what that means. Here is a pessimistic outlook just for example

but there are all kinds and I question the infection level he uses there...but at least he admits he is guessing.

Guess away.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

Mask wearing in Austin is already down since the Abbott announcement, even though it technically isn’t supposed to be effective until Wednesday.

In the outdoor equipment store today where I was picking up a chain for my chainsaw it was less that 50/50 with a shop full of what looked mostly like landscapers, dropping serious money for tree-trimming equipment after the storm. They were doing a brisk business. Most of the employees were maskless too.

At a trendy East Side bakery and brunch restaurant where we caught a late breakfast.....filled with students and other 20 somethings, masks were still being required indoors , but the gaggle handing around outside the entrance getting coffee and pastries for the road was mostly bare-faced. Very different than even a week ago.

We’ll just have to see how this works out. It’s politically driven. If Republican governors can get rid of masking BEFORE Biden’s “100 days” and we don’t suffer a new surge, then they can avoid giving him credit for beating COVID. Real genius thinking, as usual.

On the other hand, if their optimism turns out to be premature, they’ll look like real morons and people will hold them accountable for the extra deaths.....of course, they will still blame it on somebody else, probably Biden.

Greenmountain
Greenmountain

Sad commentary on our capacity to sacrifice for the community good. It is not only deaths, but hospitalizations. The mask are a pain in the butt - but wearing them is a small simple sacrifice. Why not??? And shows off your gorgeous eyes.

Tengen
Tengen

Would respect the mask burning crowd much more if I wasn't old enough to remember them gleefully sacrificing every freedom they could think of post 9/11. We got the Patriot Act, TSA at airports, artificially low interest rates, and more during that time.

Compared to that, not only are masks small potatoes, they were temporary!

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

“A bill in North Dakota that would ban mask mandates by state and local officials, schools and businesses has passed the state’s House of Representatives and is awaiting a vote in the Senate.”

I guess the GOP is now a fan of central government power dictating to everyone what they can and cant do. This is the freedom party?

yanee
yanee

at this point the opposing side has to wear two masks to prove... whatever the opposite of burning them is. turns out there's a lot of dumb people but thankfully they're still a minority.

wear a mask.

congrats on getting the vaccine. the rest of us will join you soon.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2

Statistically, the second Moderna jab is "worse".
My two shots were about equal—18-24 hours of semi-crap.
Age 72.

Realist
Realist

Mask burning rallies. Very American. Darwin might find that amusing.

I suspect these folks might burn their books too. But they probably don't own any.

Rbm
Rbm

Im following news from manus Brazil. There second wave is just as deadly as first. With 70 percent of the population infected in first wave. About 6 months after first wave. Seems to me our numbers are falling because of the big spike over the holidays. The post peak immunity combined with the vaccine and social distance are dropping the infection rate. 6 months from now a good chunk of the population will be unvaccinated by their choice with a fully opened economy. Will we get a big spike i dont know. I just feel it will still be out there and just as dangerous for those who get infected. Have not seen the stats lately of the percent of the the us population That has been infected so far. 30 percents my guess

Jackula
Jackula

I've lost a couple of rural online and several local acquaintances to Covid. Over 60's and drinking the partisan coolaid got them killed. Got it by not wearing masks/family gatherings. Not as bad as Jim Jones but similar kinds of stupidity. Darwin is alive and well. Their families are heartbroken and wish they behaved differently now. In some cases I've heard folks don't even accept it was Covid that killed their relatives. Hard to believe what has happened over the last year plus. T-cell tests are available now that are far more accurate over a much longer period since one had Covid to confim if one has had Covid. https://www.t-detect.com/covid-19/for-patients/. I want to confirm I had it in December of 2019. Will take next week. If positive will prob wait for the boosters for the new variants.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels

....Mish, whether your jab was painful or not is quite irrelevant, no immediate side effects is of course great, I know some people who got very sick after Pfizer and Astra Zeneca shots, but even that lacks importance, ALL that matters from now on is REAL effectiveness and possible long term side effects, for those are the big unknowns so far. You and m(b)illions of people with you are mere guinea pigs, I won' t have any shot till several aspects and unanswered questions related with this desperate, overhurried vaccination campaign have been sorted out. Congrats with your shot anyway and good luck in particular !

FromBrussels
FromBrussels

....As far as Trump's vaccination is concerned and the predictable subsequent stupid comments, it should be said and confirmed that he definitely and even desperately so wanted a vaccine asap and that he really did stimulate people getting it, cf operation Warp Speed ...

Cajundoug
Cajundoug

Idaho is surreal. A state legislator has been pushing to reject Federal funds to improve early childhood education because it makes it easier for women to work outside the house and destroys the nuclear family.

Zardoz
Zardoz

Redneck virtue signaling.

Maxx2000
Maxx2000

Vaccination is a 200+ year technology. I hope more idiots are convinced to not get a vaccine so that I can get my shot sooner.

Jojo
Jojo

Ha! I wonder if this will also apply to Covid masks?

MARCH 7, 2021
Swiss agree to outlaw facial coverings in 'burqa ban' vote

ZURICH (Reuters) - A far-right proposal to ban facial coverings in Switzerland won a narrow victory in a binding referendum on Sunday instigated by the same group that organized a 2009 ban on new minarets.

The measure to amend the Swiss constitution passed by a 51.2-48.8% margin, provisional official results showed.

The proposal under the Swiss system of direct democracy does not mention Islam directly and also aims to stop violent street protesters from wearing masks, yet local politicians, media and campaigners have dubbed it the burqa ban.
....

Jojo
Jojo

Too many people are operating under the mistaken assumption that Covid vaccines impart Covid immunity to people. 'Taint so. All the vaccines do is redcue the probability of an infection turning serious and requiring hospitalization. You can still get Covid and you can still transmit it to others.

Coronavirus vaccine unlikely to stop infection, World Health Organisation says
It’s being hailed as our only way out of the pandemic – but the WHO has warned a vaccine is unlikely to stop one of the biggest problems with coronavirus.
December 29, 2020


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