Mortgage Rates are Spiking and So is the Spread vs 10-Year Treasuries

Mortgage Rate and Spread Data from St. Louis Fed, Weekly Ending Thursday, Chart by Mish

The above chart caught my eye as I was mapping mortgage rates. 

The last two recessions started when the spread between the 30-year mortgage rate and the 10-year treasury yield topped two percentage points.

“Is this a long term pattern?” I wondered. And here is the answer.

30-year mortgage Rate Minus 10-Year Treasury Yield 

30-year mortgage Rate Minus 10-Year Treasury Yield via St. Louis Fed, Chart by Mish

The normal spread between the 30-year mortgage rate and the 10-year treasury yield is one to two percentage points. 

I am not quite sure what to make of this relationship other than to note that six of the last seven recessions began shortly after the spread exceeded two points. There were also some false signals.

We are now in the danger zone with spreads rising faster than the yield on the 10-year note. 

30-Year Mortgage Rates 

Mortgage rates courtesy of Mortgage News Daily

Rate and Spread Notes

  • Rates from Mortgage News Daily (MND) are more timely than the weekly rates posted by the St. Louis Fed. 
  • As of March 24, 2022 the average 30-year mortgage rate is 4.71%. The yield on the 10-year note is 2.37%. 
  • The current spread is 2.34 percentage points, easily into the spread danger zone shown in the second chart.

Housing Slowdown

On March 18, I commented “Mortgage rates are up, sales are down big. Get used to this story.”

Housing started slowing even before mortgage rates jumped. New home sales are recorded at contract signing. Existing home sales are recorded at closing.

The existing home sales in February locked in at rates in December or January. According to MND, the rate on January 3 was 3.29%. The rate today is 4.71%. 

New and existing home sales are highly likely plunge looking ahead. 

Home Prices

Case-Shiller home price data via St. Louis Fed, chart by Mish

The Case-Shiller national home price increase in 2021 is the most on record dating to 1987.

To any rational human being that chart either represents inflation or is a result of inflation. The Fed and most economists are not in the class of rational humans.

Rather the Fed and economists only view rent as inflation.

Case-Shiller National, Top 10 Metro Percent Change From Year Ago

Case Shiller and CPI year-over-year changes, data via St. Louis Fed, chart by Mish

Percent Change From Year Ago Notes (December)

  • CPI: 7.0%
  • OER: 3.79%
  • Rent: 3.33%
  • Case-Shiller 10-City: 16.98%
  • Case-Shiller National: 18.84%

CPI Understated?

Yes, by a lot.

I do not believe OER is only up 3.79%. Nor do I believe rent is only up 3.3%.

Moreover, home prices are not directly in the CPI, only OER and and Rent.

The Fed Can Undoubtedly Slow Housing

The Fed can undoubtedly slow housing by hiking rates or by selling the mortgage backed securities (MBS) in its massive pile of QE purchased assets totaling about $9 trillion.

OK, consider housing crushed. What about the CPI? As noted home prices are not in the CPI, rent is.

And rent is still rising because of the way the BLS factors existing contracts. 

Hard Landing or Soft Landing?

What Can the Fed Do About the Price of Food, Medicine, Gasoline, or Rent?

I keep asking that question to those who claim rate hikes and quantitative hiking will cure inflation as measured. I have not received any credible answers. 

Rates hikes will not impact inelastic items.

Destroying home buying and thus home building will not do anything about rent. If anything suppression of home building will make rents go up. 

For discussion, please see What Can the Fed Do About the Price of Food, Medicine, Gasoline, or Rent?

The one credible answer that no one has come up with is something I have stated many times over the past few years: If home prices and the stock market are measures of inflation on the way up, then logically they are measure of deflation on the way down.

The Fed needs to hike rates until they crush the stock market and home prices enough to also collapse demand for elastic goods and services. Then the Fed needs to change its asinine methodology that fosters economic bubbles. 

The questions of the day are how likely is that? And how long would it take if they try?

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worleyeoe
worleyeoe
2 years ago
Wolf Richter pointed out recently that BLS has finally started to include actual rent price contracts and not surveys, so in the coming months the rent portion of CPI will accelerate. The BLS needs to do the same thing on the purchase side using a reliable Case-Shiller Index. To not do so as you point out Mish, is to not take seriously the need to learn something from what’s about to happen in the next 18 months. Real CPI is at least 10%, when factoring in real rents & home prices. And the FED & Congress need to rethink their woke MMT based management of the economy.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
With rates on the 10 yr US bond at levels in April 2019 (nearly a year before COVID lockdowns), and the bond market is ~40 years into the 60 year cycle, I firmly believe the bottom in the interest rate cycle has completed.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Nah. Bond market has (at least) one more Roar!
Deflation will be worry topic soon enough.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Deflation doesn’t necessarily mean interest rate must go down. I define deflation as the decrease of lending. Under this definition interest rates can go up even though fewer loans are made. Such a scenario can happen when lenders charge more because of the perception of default risk. As variable rates on loans go up, existing assets owned may need to be liquidated (such as US bonds). Given the amount of leverage in the existing financial system, interest rates don’t have to move much to cause insolvency,
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
2 years ago
Your 30 year mortgage versus 10 year treasury spread appears to go over 2% when the 10 year treasury drops rapidly, most likely in a flight to safety. It would seem to be a coincident indicator and not a causative indicator. The Fed could hike interest rates while buying MBS to keep mortgage rates low but that would cause even more distortions in the housing market.
There aren’t any good options for the Fed because as Jim Bianco said in his interview with Adam Taggart, the policy mistake has already been made. The Fed is only left with bad choices and will have to decide between fighting inflation or propping up the stock market. Way too much emphasis is put on the stock market. It isn’t the real economy and I think that it is possible for the stock market to crash without even causing a recession. However most likely is that a recession will cause the stock market to crash.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
“The Fed is only left with bad choices and will have to decide between fighting inflation or propping up the stock market.”
And fight they will.
POTUS has publicly called for Federal Reserve to handle inflation.
Powell Monday: “But, to end where I began, inflation is much too high. We have the necessary tools, and we will use them to restore price stability.”
Waller Thursday said household balance sheets could handle a drop in home prices … and banks much more resilient than going into GFC.
Logan (nyfrb) said going forward QE will only be used in extraordinary circumstance.
The end result will be a hard recession whether they realize it or not. Bubbles don’t deflate. They burst. Bubbles need ever looser financial conditions to survive. Any deviation will result in Burst.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Yes, they will eventually be able to restore “price stability”, but at a much higher general price level.
Mission Accomplished.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
2 years ago
likely to change? zero chance. fed has only one mandate. to keep banks in high cotton. all the rest is eyewash. but does affect us all whether in our r/e investing, stocks fx trading or just buying potato chips for the stupid bowl or oscars.
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Financial volatility hurts new home construction. Large amounts of debt increases volatilty. Viola! One of several factors at play.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
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FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
I look at the slope of that mortgage rate chart and I want to short it.
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
Rates on 30 year fixed on zillow mortgage still as low as 4.25% apr. I guess the average is higher because of poor credit borrowers.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Refinanced from 4.375 to 2.375% in November, told all to get it while it was good. Hope more than nobody listened and acted. Rolled up $30K in debt and still lowered monthly by almost $200.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Bond market has been fascinating. 30yr and 5yr only 2 bps apart. 30yr and 3yr only 6 bps apart.
Billy
Billy
2 years ago
Mortgage Rates are Spiking
Possible Nuclear war coming
Economists are wrong about housing starts
The FED can’t be trusted
Gas Prices are out of Control
The President’s doing illegal activities to drive up oil and gas
A Global Food Crisis Looms
Either Mish has found the secret to click bait or we are in the middle of extreme fear and according to Warren Buffet, it’s the best time to buy.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
“it’s the best time to buy.”
Sure. Why not. A whopping 6% off all time high.
On second thought. You first.
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Couldn’t agree more. All the bad news is priced in. Rates are going DOWN next year.
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Reply to  FlyNavy1
Neither inflationary events nor debt collapses are solved overnight.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“As of March 24, 2022 the average 30-year mortgage rate is 4.71%. The yield on the 10-year note is 2.37%.”
Standard operation is rate reset at 4pm … but on occasion when market volatile they’ll do mid day reset. Reset a couple of hours ago. 4.95%.
Move along … nothing to see here … go look at green S&P …
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
That is stunning. Good find.

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