Out at Last! US Troops Leave Afghanistan After 20 Years

One Day Early, Nearly 20 Years Too Late 

A historic airlift concludes with a final departure of US troops ending a 20-year engagement. 

Biden pledged to be out by August 31. He’s one day early, but nearly 20 years too late.

The WSJ reports Last U.S. Troops Leave Afghanistan.

A U.S. military aircraft carried the last American troops out of Afghanistan on Monday, marking the formal end of the longest war in U.S. history but leaving hundreds of Americans and tens of thousands of Afghans to face a future of uncertainty and danger.

Despite assurances to the contrary by Mr. Biden and other top administration officials, Americans and Afghan allies were left behind, though the State Department couldn’t provide precise figures.

The U.S. earlier Monday said it was working to assist hundreds of Americans still there. Advocacy groups said as many as 60,000 Afghan interpreters, drivers and others who assisted the U.S. military, CIA and U.S. diplomatic personnel over the years, along with their families, remain in the country, at risk of retribution from the Taliban.

Campaign Promise Fulfilled 

No one anywhere is pleased at how this evacuation went even though there was strong overall support for getting out.

But at least we did get out.

Biden kept a campaign pledge while Obama and Trump both broke promises. 

Fallout Just Beginning

We are out, but the fallout and political twisting will begin. 

Congressional hearings on what went wrong are undoubtedly coming up. Expect nothing but political finger-pointing instead of what really went wrong.

What Went Wrong 

  1. Other than to get Bin Laden, we should not have been there in the first place 
  2. There was never a defined mission.
  3. The US attempted to nation build and such attempts never work. 
  4. Troop reduction before getting out everyone who needed to get out.

Those are the key ideas but the spotlight will be point 4. On that point, Democrats will blame Trump and Republicans will blame Biden. 

Scarcely anyone will suggest that 4 consecutive administrations made key mistakes.

Afghanistan Surrender Theory: Rumsfeld in 2001 vs Pompeo in 2020

In case you missed it, please see Afghanistan Surrender Theory: Rumsfeld in 2001 vs Pompeo in 2020

Here are a few key snips:

Surrender Theory and Practice

  • We don’t negotiate surrenders,” said Donald Rumsfeld, then the secretary of defense, in 2001.
  • Our secretary of state signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban,” said H.R. McMaster, Trump’s former head of National Security. “This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”

Trump made a deal with the Taliban. Here are the key points.

Ten Key Deal Points

  1. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will take the following measures in the first one hundred thirty-five (135) days [starting February 29, 2020].
  2. They will reduce the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan to eight thousand six hundred (8,600) and proportionally bring reduction in the number of its allies and Coalition forces.
  3. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from five military bases.
  4. Up to five thousand (5,000) prisoners of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and up to one thousand (1,000) prisoners of the other side will be released by March 10, 2020, the first day of intra-Afghan negotiations.
  5. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete withdrawal of all remaining forces from Afghanistan within the remaining nine and a half (9.5) months [by Mid-December].
  6. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases [by Mid-December].
  7. The United States will initiate an administrative review of current U.S. sanctions and the rewards list against members of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan with the goal of removing these sanctions by August 27, 2020
  8. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will prevent any group or individual in Afghanistan from threatening the security of the United States and its allies, and will prevent them from recruiting, training, and fundraising and will not host them in accordance with the commitments in this agreement.
  9. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan will not provide visas, passports, travel permits, or other legal documents to those who pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies to enter Afghanistan.
  10. The United States will seek economic cooperation for reconstruction with the new post settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations, and will not intervene in its internal affairs.

Art of the Deal

Those bullet points are straight from the State Department Document Bringing Peace to Afghanistan signed in Doha, Qatar on February 29, 2020.

Yes, Art of the Deal fans, that is the exact deal Trump negotiated.

What did Trump get? Vague promises that the Taliban they would not threaten the security of the US or its allies. There were a couple similar vague promises but points 8 and 9 above encompass the idea.

If you believe I left out any key pieces, please read the deal and point them out. I will gladly make corrections if I missed anything significant.

Trump’s Ironic Prophecy

  • I am thinking the same thing as I have for the last number of years.
  • What are we doing there? These people hate us.
  • As soon as we leave it’s all going to blow up anyway.

If Trump could have gotten us out of Afghanistan without creating a mess, then why did he purposely leave it up to Biden to execute his plan instead of withdrawing by the end of 2020 as he originally promised?

The US has had failed policy in Afghanistan for 20 years. There’s plenty of blame for 4 administrations over that pathetic course.

The final result, owned by 4 administrations speaks for itself. But despite making a huge mess of the exit (thanks in large part by Trump), it was Biden who got us out.

Who Won?

Citing the Brown University study, the Brookings Institute concluded “In his long war against America, Osama bin Laden has won a sweeping if posthumous victory.

Laden scored a tremendous strategic victory for the cost of less than two dozen people and $500,000.

Result

  • The US engaged in two wars at the total cost of $6 trillion or more (including long-term health costs) and thousands of lives.
  • The Patriot Act weakened Constitutional protections for individuals and the rise a subtle surveillance state (as Edward Snowden first exposed).
  • The fall of Iraq (Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s’ crazy fixation) led to ISIS when the Iraq military was disbanded. That helped to destabilize Syria.
  • Destabilization in the Middle East helped create a surge of migration to Europe which has caused major issues for Europe/EU.

Bin Laden never imagined the long-term damage those “four sorties” would cause. Even the current humiliation of the US in Afghanistan is a reverberation.

On August 26, I wrote Pakistan is the Real Winner of the Afghanistan War

Perhaps the Brookings institute has the better proposal, but looking ahead, Pakistan looks like the next big problem. 

Messy Exit But Congratulations Anyway

Finally, at long last we are out. 

Blame whomever you want, for whatever you want, but no more US military will lose their lives on the ground in a place we should not have been once Bin Laden was killed.

Please give thanks to that.

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amigator
amigator
2 years ago
There is way to almost ensure we won’t get in another one of these “”wars”.
Pass a law or amendment that requires members of the senate and congress to participate directly in battle when our troops are sent off to war or police whatever you want to call it.
We can draft in the politicians train them and then they can participate in the war that they believe is so needed. This address three major issues..
1. The politicians turned soldier will have first hand knowledge of what our troops really need and the strategy being employed. They can report directly to the politicians back home what needs to be done to help, funding directives and improve our troops performance.
2. You will most likely never have to worry about your daughter/son dying in war because if the politicians have to put their lives on the line they will make dam sure the war is really needed.
3. As a politician soldier If you are unable to perform and participate for the causes that you feel are worth American lives then you will resign and the people can vote in another representative.
While fighting their pay will be adjusted commensurate with their skills and the biggest thing of all any injuries sustained will only be covered through the VA hospital system. Unless they want to pay out of pocket.
While our founding fathers did an incredible job with forming our government I think they missed the boat here. But is easy to see them just assuming that any wars the leaders would always participate, heck that’s what they did!
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“The US attempted to nation build and such attempts never work.”
It worked in Japan, Germany and Italy. The Marshall Plan was successful in Europe. We also had some 500,000 troops in Germany.
Immediately after Afghanistan, Bush pivoted to Iraq. Generals Shinseki and Zinni said upward of 3 – 400,000 troops were needed to occupy Iraq. They could barely scrape together 150,000, to invade, let alone occupy. Things are night and day different than they were in 1945.
Webej
Webej
2 years ago
marking the formal end of the longest war in U.S. history
How can something end if there is no beginning?
This is not a koan. There was never a declaration of war.
Other than to get Bin Laden, we should not have been there in the first place 
  • The Taliban offered in 2001 to give up Bin Laden in exchange for evidence that he was involved
  • The plans for an Afghanistan invasion were in place months before 911
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej
“This is not a koan”
Are you sure?
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
He prefers the term ‘pedantic poetry.’ Unless I am misinterpreting him and he is actually arguing that what happened in Afghanistan was not warfare. Non-zero chance that’s his opinion.
All of this was just an exercise in enriching the MIC. Look who started it. Halliburton.
thimk
thimk
2 years ago
We just left an unstable sovereignty at the door steps of Russia and China.  Belt and road this country China . 
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
I am reminded on 9/11 there were no Afghans or Iraqis hijacking airplanes to fly into buildings. I am reminded what Donald Trump wrote in his 2015 book ‘Time to Get Tough,’ which was published ahead of the presidential election: “Then look at Saudi Arabia. It is the world’s biggest funder of terrorism. Saudi Arabia funnels our petrodollars – our very own money – to fund the terrorists that seek to destroy our people, while the Saudis rely on us to protect them.”

Then within his first 100 days in office, he flew to Saudi Arabia, put his hand on a strange orb, did a jihad sword dance, and made a massive $110 billion arms deal with these very same Saudis.

Trump never followed through with his rhetoric. In fact, he often did a 180 degree turn from the things that helped get him elected. Now he is playing armchair quarterback telling his MAGA cult members how much better he could have done it. Yet he didn’t and he had four years…

The Trump legacy is coulda, woulda, shoulda…

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
Nobody confronts the Saudis on anything. We can worry about China’s human rights violations, but King Salman can do no wrong. lol. He can literally commit murder and we gladly sweep it under the rug.
Oil.
Trump is/was a rank amateur on actual governing. He was an accidental President who got elected because he was a TV celebrity with a mouth on him. Americans love to vote for actors and celebrities. We’ve always thought their opinions were somehow special.
Trump got points for being confrontational and for what Jordan Peterson would call “disagreeable-ness”……he didn’t care if he created enemies, which was sort of a political taboo that he broke….he made hay by ranting about the other party and their obvious sacred cows and false narratives…..that white working people have no use for.
But you’re right. He never got anything done he promised in the campaign, and often reversed himself when it came time to make a stand. As has often been noted, he deals with everything as “transactional”, meaning what “does DJT get out of it”?
He got points with the crowds by criticizing things that nobody else would, like immigration, which was one of those “politically sensitive” topics before he blew it wide open.
We should try to learn something. We dodged a bullet, but we aren’t out of the woods. Social media and demagoguery go hand in hand.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Moderna said to create a better immune response than Pfizer. I was wondering if we’d see these kinds of comparisons coming out.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
….unless of course you get delivered millions of contaminated Moderna dosis like Japan did… In most countries the ‘flaw’  would probably  ve  been ignored, adding even more casualties to the thousands of poison shot deaths… and ticking…
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
America is truly changed after 9/11. Americans are now tax slaves to the warfare/security/police state that will continue to trample all over Constitutional rights in the name of security. I have no doubt the next war is a short time away to keep what Eisenhower cointed the “military industrial complex” happy. 

I can only hope my family members now serving like I once did figure out why we really fight. Hint: it’s not for freedom and liberty… (See Smedley Butler)

Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
What about the unofficial armies ?
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Yay!
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
I think the biggest reason to leave Afghanistan and most of these areas where terrorism can percolate is that we have way more accurate technology to take out terrorist cells where they hide. Military satellites are capable of things they weren’t 20 years ago when used in conjunction wit UAVs. Word now is Turkey and Qatar will help the Taliban with infrastructure starting at the airport.  It is the Taliban’s problem now to govern. The US and Russia are waiting and watching the Taliban. Both countries now have the shared interest of fighting terrorism. Putin wants nothing to do with Afghanistan after it took the Soviet Union down in infamy but will do all he can to prevent Islamic terrorism getting anywhere close to a Russian border. The US can combat terrorism in a variety of ways including holding the Taliban accountable.  We’ve entered a new era in the south central Asia. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
As bad as the exit was, Biden never wavered like every previous president. The last one negotiated this deal only fit for the coward that he truly he. We were told IISIS was gone but somehow killed 13 more soldiers. Basically everything the Trump admin did was a failure or a lie. The day Trump and his traititorous followers die is not a day to soon.
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
“Fake news” and owning the liberals provided Trump convenient cover as he claimed he defeated ISIS despite intelligence warning that ISIS was rapidly spreading across Iowa. Trump loves the poorly educated. In the end, the Trump legacy is coulda, woulda, shoulda as he is reduced in life to playing the armchair quarterback. 
LostNOregon
LostNOregon
2 years ago
One word: Finally!
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
2 years ago
Congress is as much to blame for the 20 years of occupying Afghanistan, or any country for that matter. Congress votes on budgets that include military items and grants the President permission to conduct military operations lasting longer than 30 days.
mrchinup
mrchinup
2 years ago
The big difference is the Taliban didn’t take over the country when Trump was pres, they knew better. They knew the liberal democrats are weak minded people that they could dominated. They didn’t even wait till Biden’s boobs were out to take over. The liberal democrat leaders are responsible for those deaths, they should be prosecuted for every one of them. Biggest bunch of bumbling fools we have ever had as leaders. 
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
Are you in contact with reality enough to be aware that Trump negotiated the withdrawal date?
Don’t let your Trump-love make you look ignorant.
Thanks.
ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
2 years ago
Reply to  mrchinup
Oh please.  Get real. The Taliban took over the minute we started withdrawing troops.  They would have done exactly the same to Trump.  
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
Dissenting vote on the original AUMF–Barbara Lee (D-CA).
She wanted a 240 day limit on the AUMF.
Remember–at the very least–no effn more unlimited-time AUMF.
Dean_70
Dean_70
2 years ago
The US  left billions in arms, this is obviously intentional. We’ll find the reasons in the years to come.  We’ll arm rebels for decades to keep the country destabilized. 
All I know is the killing won’t stop but at least our soldiers have been removed from the line of fire, for now.
Corvinus
Corvinus
2 years ago
I wish it wasn’t such a mess – hopefully the only thing left to do about Afghanistan is forget it.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
You can’t take the Biden out of BInlaDEN. 
nic9075
nic9075
2 years ago
so is this a win or loss for Biden & America?  Other than dominating the news cycle for the past two weeks (welcome break from the Covid 19 fear mongering)what is the result long term ??   I mean BIden met the 8.31.21 goal that was all over talk radio
goldguy
goldguy
2 years ago
And so it goes….my guess is that we will eventually be trading partners.  
Reminds me a little like Vietnam, we sent our boys over there, got them killed, spit on them when they returned. Years later we started trading with them, look at us now, we are good friends.  
Moral of the story?  You would be insane to join the military….
nic9075
nic9075
2 years ago
Reply to  goldguy

that is why only working class AKA lower middle class whites who don’t have the grades or intellect for college do so

Corvinus
Corvinus
2 years ago
Reply to  nic9075
There are many reasons people join the military – probably as many as there are service members. 
I don’t judge people by their grades or level of academic achievement – that’s for the coastal elites that like to look down their nose at rural people and bask in their own smug sense of perceived superiority.
LostNOregon
LostNOregon
2 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
There are many families with strong military traditions. They consider it a duty and honor to serve their country. The politicians and greedy corporations misuse that trust for their own ends.
jiminy
jiminy
2 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
Right.  I was drafted in 1968, out of grad school per Johnson’s program on grad school deferments.  Half of my basic training company had degrees and my entire working section were college graduates.  There isn’t an active draft today but that doesn’t mean that every soldier is a pathetic loser.  Actually, most of the coastal elite, of my age group, were unfit for service including Trump and Biden.  Today 75% are found unfit for service and they want to serve.
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
Reply to  goldguy
No, you should be engaged with your public leaders enough to say “no way–you go if you think its the thingto do”.
jiminy
jiminy
2 years ago
Reply to  goldguy
Well said and absolutely correct.  I was forced to serve, it sucks.
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
Hallelujah.  Finally done with Afghshitholeastan. 
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Any guesses on how long till we go back in militarily.
A) <6 months
B) 6 months to 1 year
C) 1-5 years
D) 5+ years
E) Never
My own guess is we will go back in if there is a major terrorist attack (like 9/11) on the USA that originates in Afghanistan. If there is not, we won’t.  Presumably the Taliban know this and if they’d like to retain control it will be up to them to keep the terrorist organizations under wraps.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Never, since the drone strikes are already happening.
By destabilizing and warmongering the whole region, there are many terrorist hideaways: Somalia, Yemen, Sahel, Iraq/Syria.
Afghanistan is nothing special, and arguably the most stable.
The Biden plan was to surround it with bases. None of the neighbors would have it. 20 years ago they would be unthinkable.
The empire is going into the sunset, slowly or rapidly.
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Sure, Saudi Arabia will organize another attack, and we’ll head straight to Afghanistan.
Good plan, Tim.  It sure worked last time, especially since the Saudi government is our best buddy now.
Remind me again of the arms sales deals we did with the Saudis andhow it is in our interests?
At least Trump got to hold their warm, glowing balls.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
The military will be very loathe to go back there. They can’t even remotely guarantee for the safety of their own personnel anywhere outside of hardened outposts from where they’re unable to achieve much of anything. As American organizations go, the military still has some competent people in their ranks. Perhaps even some in the higher ranks. Being the only ones even remotely grownup in any room shared with other US “leaders,” they do carry a good bit of sway.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
On the timing of the withdrawal, I’d say Trump saw a good way to potentially r*tf**k Biden by not completing his own poorly conceived plan. What boat load of BS promises that the Taliban was never gonna keep anyway. How do you make a deal like that?  So much for Trump’s Art of the Deal. 
We invaded the country, threw the government out of power for 20 years, hunted them down like animals and  installed our own puppets……And now at the end the guys we never wanted to see gain control of Afghanistan again  are going to come back in and honor a bunch of promises to make sure Americans are safe?  Pulleeeeze! Gimme a break.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I think we will be monitoring them from Kazakhstan along with Russia from what I understand. The US has a joint base there with Russia.  Neither Russia nor the US want to see any terrorism come from Afghanistan ever again. Ironic both countries basically left with their tail between their legs and nothing else. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
People who can, do. Only those so incompetent they can’t, make “deals” about all the things other people “should” do.

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