People Are Still Hyperventilating Over Covid-19, I suggest It’s Time to Celebrate

Journalist Walker Bragman is extremely concerned and complains government “isn’t going to do anything else about it.” 

Bragman Tweet

Dr. Ding hyperventilated with red circles then retweeted Bragman’s complaint.

Here’s another.

US to be Slammed Hard Says Ding

6) #DeltaVariant is surging worldwide. US and continental Europe are going to be slammed very hard soon. Double vaccinate ASAP.

Daily New Confirmed Deaths 

On a 7-day rolling average the UK went from a peak of 18.31 deaths per million to 0.16 deaths per million.

The “about to be slammed US” went from 9.48 deaths per million to 0.89 deaths per million.

Dear Dr. Ding and Journalist Bragman

Dear Dr. Ding, @DrEricDing, and journalist @WalkerBragman: Why are you hyperventilating over 14 deaths in the last 6 days, down from 1823 in a single day in January?

Do Something!

Our government isn’t going to do anything else about this.”

What Should Government Do?

  1. Celebrate success 
  2. Mock ridiculous hype
  3. Encourage vaccinations and work on vaccine improvements 

There is nothing else government should do. 

Meanwhile,the current hype is counterproductive. People can see through it and that cannot possibly help.

Mish

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Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
I presume that they reason “they”  are hyperventilating is  not because they are looking at deaths, but because they are looking at cases. In late May, cases in the UK were down at about 2k a day. They have been rising rapidly, and today they are 16,703, an eightfold increase in a month. So far deaths have not followed. Is it because those who are vaccinated are having milder cases? Or, is it just a lag between the reporting of cases and the reporting of deaths? Or, perhaps is it some of both? I guess we will find out.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
I will throw a couple more options out there. One is that cases are growing, but not deaths as the Delta variation is less deadly. That’s not true, so far as I know, but it it were true, could explain the data. The other is that the reason cases are growing fast in the UK, but not deaths, is that they didn’t follow the vaccine maker’s recommendations. They elected to give everyone one shot so that as many people as possible could have at least one shot, and they are now trying to get people the second shot. Perhaps that strategy gave partial protection, meaning they got Covid, but got a mild case. If that is the explanation, we should not see the same thing in the US, as the general strategy was to get everyone both shots.
In any case, it will all sort itself out over time.
Blurtman
Blurtman
2 years ago
So you get jabbed with the mRNA vaccine, and your body produces the spike protein which is then found in your plasma, where it circulates and binds to ACE receptors in your heart, vasculature, brain, etc.  Your body’s immune system (antibodies, T cells) sees the cells displaying the S1 protein and kills these cells – cardiac, vascular endothelial, neural cells.  Brilliant!
Follow the science: link to academic.oup.com
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman
Indeed, follow the science:
The spike protein was only found in the plasma for a few days following the injection, after which it was cleared. Even when found, it was found at exceptionally low levels, about 1/100,000 of the level which was found, in another study, to be capable of causing harm.
dosis sola facit venenum”
Blurtman
Blurtman
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
The S1 protein was detected in plasma up to seven days after the first injection, peaking on day 5 in the Ogata study. The “another study” used an in vitro cell line assay as well as a blood brain barrier model in vitro assay. Neither can be claimed to accurately predict toxicity in humans.
The Mobeen Syed “Will Vaccine Generated Spike Proteins Bind To Our Cells?” Youtube video cited in the Uri Manor tweets entirely misses the possibility that the intact S1 protein that binds to the ACE receptor of bystander cells can act as a target for anti-S1 antibodies.  How many epitopes per S1 protein are potential targets? Or if the S1 protein is internalized by the bystander cell, and the processed peptides displayed in MHC, can T cells then target these cells?
“We provide a much needed “alternative” perspective — the scientific perspective.” Oh, science.  Well excuse me.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman
This is beyond my level of expertise. It does seem possible that the small number spike proteins that get into the blood following an injection are responsible for some of the side effects that some people experience in the days that follow the injection. Nevertheless, since the number of spikes present during an actual covid infections are many, many orders of magnitude higher, I’m not sure why this is a particular concern.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
As a vaxxed one it is most likely no longer of any interest to you that according to official numbers in the EU(Eudravigilance) and the US(VAERS) THOUSANDS of people have already died as a consequence of the vaccines,  the (underreported)numbers however are very real and ticking …. 
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
I find it ironic that the same people who argue that anyone who died who had Covid died “with Covid, not of Covid” then turn around and argue that people who die who have been vaccinated must have died “of vaccine, not with vaccine”. In any case, about 178 million Americans have been vaccinated. There are 265 million Americans 18 and older. About 2.6 million people over 18 die each year, in normal years. doing some simple math 178/265 *2.6=1.75, so you would expect to see 1.75 million deaths/year in the vaccinated group.
On average, then, about 146,000 vaccinated Americans should die every month from causes other than the vaccine. If the vaccine is actually causing deaths, those would be in addition to the base rate of 146,000 million deaths/month, or 4850 a day.  Are more than 146,000 vaccinated Americans passing away per month? I have seen no information that leads me to believe that is true. Funeral directors I know don’t seem to be seeing any unusual flows, and if the vaccine were causing deaths in significant numbers, they would certainly be the first to notice. Recall that during peaks in Covid deaths, they couldn’t handle the flow, and bodies needed to be stored in refrigerated trucks. Nothing like that is happening now.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
I don’t know anything about the EU system, but I know that the VAERS system is just raw data, reported by various sources, and unverified. If you file a report that you took a drug and it turned you into the incredible hulk, that will stay in the system permanently unless you withdraw it. As unverified data, no conclusions about anything can be drawn from it. The point of the system is something else, entirely. The point is that, if some unusual trends start appearing in VAERS, they can use that trend to justify doing scientifically valid research on the issue.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
By the way, yes, I have been vaccinated, but I fail to see why you think that would make the consequences no longer of interest. To me it would seem to make the consequences, if any, even more of interest. In the end, we’ll disagree, I’m sure, but to me it seems very clear that the vaccine is far, far safer than the disease.   With 34 million cases, we have 600k deaths. If the vaccine were equally deadly, then from the 178 million who have been vaccinated, you would have seen 3.1 million deaths already. Surely you don’t think that 110,000 extra deaths a week could be hidden?!! There would be bodies in the street. Even if the vaccine were 1/10 as dangerous as Covid itself, an extra 11,000 deaths a week would be obvious to everyone.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
…According to the State Department of Public Health, 4000 fully vaccinated people tested positive with C19 in Massachusetts ….Great jabs hey ?!  And this one, among other innumerous cases you ll hardly hear about : British airways confirms (reluctantly so) that four (yes 4) of its pilots died in just ONE week after being fully vaccinated …..AREN T THEY GREAT THEM SHOTS ? 
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
As more than one year passes since COVID-19 was declared a pandemic, Snopes is still link to snopes.com an “infodemic” of rumors and misinformation, and you can help. link to snopes.com what we’ve learned and how to inoculate yourself against COVID-19 misinformation. link to snopes.com the latest fact checks about the vaccines. link to snopes.com any questionable rumors and “advice” you encounter. link to snopes.com to help us hire more fact-checkers. And, please, follow the link to cdc.gov or link to who.int for guidance on protecting your community from the disease.”
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I don t believe in conspiracies either, however ,’debunking’ at all costs is Snopes business model that  should be clear in the first place ….FACT is that 4 healthy, recently vaxxed pilots died in ONE week….and of course BA and other authorities will deny it is Covid related…. international economic and social D I S A S T E R if they did confirm ….it is all hush hush behind the secretive, deceptive  Covid hype façade !
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Wrong.   That is what the Snopes rebuttal is about.  In fact, one of the pilots actually died from COVID-19 that he contracted last year.  To say that he died from the *vaccine* is not only incorrect, it is particularly cruel.
“Synnott died in June 2021, and his passing was noted in a June 10 article by the Daily Mail link to archive.is, as well as a memorial link to archive.is created by his loved ones. The claim that he was killed by a COVID-19
vaccination is especially outrageous, given that he contracted the virus
in March 2020, while working in Texas”

Sorry that I have to put you on “ignore”.   There is only so much time in a day and I cannot waste it on debunking obvious lies.

FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
So he died from C19 he caught  in march 2020  ? ….that must be a record…. and then they jabbed him…  Do ignore me , your arguments are poor anyway… like I said before : good luck !…I really don t want jabbed ones to die, like fanatic jabbed ones would like me to die for refusing to be a  lab rat… 
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
So, one pilot died after an 8 month fight with Covid, and another died of acute abdominal trauma in some sort of biking accident. No information has been released on the death of the other two.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
“Why are you hyperventilating over 14 deaths in the last 6 days, down from 1823 in a single day in January?”

Maybe because they are capable of looking a bit far ahead than you are??!!   Consider these:

1. The Delta variant took India by total surprise and millions of people died in almost no time, including lots and lots of 30-somethings who thought they were invincible. 
2. This was also helped by the fact that vaccination rates were abysmally low in most areas.
3. A lot of Trump states have dismal vaccination rates of 25-30 percent or so.
4. Even in non-Trump states, there are many Trump *districts* that have similar pathetic vaccination rates.
5. On top of this, there is the anti-vaxer/anti-masker/conspiracy-theorist sentiment that is ongoing.

All of this makes for a potential disaster in the making.   That is what Dr. Ding and other people are looking at. 

“Time to celebrate”?   Defer it at least until the end of this year, or better yet, until the start of spring 2022.

FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Can t you read ?  The Delta+ variant affects equally vaxxed and non vaxxed ….   I even read somewhere that fatalities are MUCH higher among the vaxxed …..so good luck !
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
You read it “somewhere”??!!   Whoa, that is soooooooooo much more convincing than the info I found on the PHE report “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England”, Table 18 on page 51.    I am sure that your “somewhere” is wayyyyyy more credible than that!!!! LOL
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
judging by your rather desperate exclamations, it becomes obvious that there may be some inadmissible truth in my humble findings… People tend to get mad when one hits a sore spot.. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
LOL.   If anybody is desperate, it is the anti-vax/anti-mask/conspiracy-theory community.  
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
2 years ago
‘Two COVID nations’: Delta variant threatens sections of the country where vaccination rates lag
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
2 years ago
This is what happens to older  wealthy people who start believing in conspiracy theories and violate the law. Eventually you die in prison. 
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
I ve got the impression he lived quite happily and did what he wanted to do, rowing against the current is admirable and satisfactory, keeps the adrenaline flowing , I do like people like him, dying at 76 is not bad when you ve lived well, what follows is mostly physical and mental decay…
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
2 years ago
If you got your mRNA vaccine you will be fine. Those who got no vaccine should prepare to get sick and possibly die quickly if they are at risk. Looks like the Delta variant is putting people in their 20s who decided against the vaccine or thought they would tough it out, in the hospital. Missouri is a good example of a state where hospitals are filling up again with Covid patients. The same will happen in Mississippi and Alabama, two of the lowest vaccinated states. You can celebrate if you are in the northeast, mid Atlantic or most of the West save for Arizona. 
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
 It is obvious that the Delta + kills vaxxed ones too, some sources even say MORE deadly among vaxxeds, so I wouldn t  smugly jump the gun yet if I were you…..Last year at this time  the curve was flattish too, remaining so all through the summer… and then autumn arrived…. Makes me wonder how the immune system is going to react in combination with the overnight concocted experimental gene therapy called vaccination, when confronted with all kinds of colds, flu, and C variants ….Go for your third jab soon and have a fourth one in december, I d say…. and good luck !
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Based on which vaccine ? The mRNA vaccine is superior against variants. 
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
mRNA or the viral vector ones ….it all remains to be seen, I am afraid ….in autumn and winter is when we ll get the  final answers. 
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
All i need is Ivermectin.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Thanks Dr.!
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
Fear Inc® needs to keep these variants in the spotlight so another shutdown can provide coverfire for the economists, politicians and banks for the inevitable social strife and economic issues that would occur. Even before COVID was a thing, the reverse repo market went insane. I see right through this. Sadly social media hypes this hysteria up, as every dip can have a say in the matter
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
The variants are worth keeping an eye on in the UK’s hospitalizations and death data, they’ll be an leading indicator for us. Between everyone that got Covid already and those that were vaxxed we have herd immunity and I hope the worst is behind us. I expect Covid to be endemic but vaxxed or folks that had covid already that get it will have a magnitude less chance of being hospitalized or dying than before so it’s gonna fade into the normal recurring yearly appearing collection of flus and colds.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
 Wishfull thinking by the  vaxxed lab rats…. 
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
But then there is the long-term potential vascular damage caused by the spike protein in the vaccines that may not show up for years.
Bay-Brit
Bay-Brit
2 years ago
They are locking down again in China, in Guandong, Donguan etc due to the Delta variant.  This is Chinas’ manufacturing hub and it may have wider consequences. Travel to and from China is a long way from normalizing – Chinese tourist dollars will be absent globally and the massive purchasing power that goes with it . In Thailand, for example,  tourism was 20% gdp, it has its own covid problems, and is  already suffering from a devastated tourist industry but they are not going to get sufficient visitors to recover.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
OT…I think this video examining the dollar strength is outstanding, for anybody who wants to see how a dollar breakout might affect markets. FYI
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
If the MSM would stop the constant fearmongering, Covid would fade away.  Every news program I watch daily has one or two segments on some variation of Covid scaremongering and the so-called vaccine hesitancy.   EVERY DAMN SINGLE DAY!  As the old saying goes “How can I forget you if you won’t go away?”.
Just today I read an article on CNN about the need for vaccine booster shots on some kind of regular basis.  The article was full of “might’s” and even quoted demigod Fauci stating there was not yet any scientific determination as to the need for boosters.  But that didn’t stop CNN from writing  many qualified paragraphs about the [almost, surely, probably, maybe] need for such shots.
As to vaccine hesitancy, that isn’t the correct word for those of us who have chosen not to accept an mRNA vaccine shot.  We’ve made our decisions and for most of us, we accept any potential consequences.  Now leave us alone.  Constant harruging is not going to change anyone’s mind.
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
If you have not had Covid I would recommend you acquire outpatient treatment packs that includes Ivermectin for you and your loved ones. After seeing the vax data we have to date I would not have gotten vaccinated myself although so far no major lasting side effects, plenty in my circle have tho.
Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Do us all a favor and inject yourself with not a vaccine but with Covid. Keep doing this as infinitum.  
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Ha ha.  Stop being jealous because I don’t share your boot shaking fear of Covid.  Just remember – because someone isn’t wearing a mask doesn’t necessarily mean they have been vaccinated.
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
I’m not “hyperventilating” anymore, now that I have a vaccine.
It is kind of interesting that the party of the declining demographic are the same ones who will face increasing demographic pressure from the failure to vaccinate.
It kind of Darwinic–doncha think?
I like the vaccination because my keys stick to me and I can’t lose them because I’m magnetic now….
Blurtman
Blurtman
2 years ago
It’s only the hospitalized and dead that the CDC is monitoring for breakthrough infections for those who are vaccinated.  So they care not about the asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic.  But Fauci and the MSM constantly shout about all infection cases.  It is a way to get people to pay attention to you which some people obviously crave.
Webej
Webej
2 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman
Good point. We are no longer counting the same way.
The so-called infections (positive PCR tests) were not cases in >90%, if you were to count a case only if there is replication competent virus.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej
The “counts” were never going to be the official number; they never are, because it’s impossible to accurately count such things. The one, and only thing, that they can accurately count is total deaths. They then use that number to determine “excess deaths”, from which they estimate total deaths from a given pandemic. For the flu, each year they count 5-7,000 flu deaths, then announce that the estimated deaths were 25-60,000 which becomes the official death toll. The same will be done for Covid. The 600,000 deaths counted will be forgotten, and replaced with a more accurate number, which will be based on excess deaths.
Blurtman
Blurtman
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Yes, all of the labs were reporting data from excessive cycle times as true positives when the subjects harbored no infectious virus.
Mackkenzie
Mackkenzie
2 years ago
I am glad things are getting better, and have had the vaccine. That said, I have no intention of going back to “normal” any time soon. I really like my new lifestyle of working from home and never want to go back to the office. I also haven’t missed eating at restaurants or going to movies, which I used to do regularly with my family prior to the pandemic. These things add so little extra value to my life that I feel it’s fine to continue staying away until such time as case counts are almost zero, and I would be happy never to return.
I also love how much more efficient life has been now that everyone is willing to just do video calls rather than meet face to face with accountants, therapists, my children’s school teachers, etc. I hope I never have to spend wasted time driving to and from these stupid meetings again. I’ll celebrate that!
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Mackkenzie
Amen.  I got to move the hell out of SoCal, and take my fat SoCal salary with me, permanently.   No more I5 thunderdome every morning, no more pretentious wankers, no more blasted desert.
Has improved my general mood 500%
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Mackkenzie
Not sure if anybody else has experienced this, but yesterday I got the belated news that an old friend, somebody I’ve known from skiing for 20 years, passed away from COVID…..and it happened way back in February. I expected this sort of news at some point, as my friend was getting very elderly and I knew he wasn’t going to be around for too many more Christmases. But in an ordinary year I would have gotten the news, as we do have many mutual acquaintances.
This is actually the second time I learned of the death of a good friend well after the fact….nobody had funerals much this last year…the other friend did not die of COVID, but went quickly after an unexpected cancer diagnosis that was only made a few weeks prior to his passing. I knew he was sick, but I had to look for his obituary to figure it out…….after I hadn’t heard from a month or two. I just passed that news to another mutual friend the other day who still hadn’t heard.
One thing you learn as you get older…and that is that you don’t always get closure. People you’ve known your whole life can be here today and be gone tomorrow, and it’s just history…..and that can be a hard thing. COVID seems to have made that worse.
Mackkenzie
Mackkenzie
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I haven’t had any friends or relatives die from COVID but I have noticed that two relatives came down with it who never told the broader family! Some people seem to feel shame around this disease, and don’t want others to know.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I don’t know anyone who has died from it, but I do know two people who have reported “long covid”. One complains of “brain fog”, and had to get a simpler job. The other has chronic fatigue and shortness of breath, and can’t work at all.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Sorry for your loss…..Was he vaxxed ? 
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
US to be Slammed Hard Says Ding”
It’s a narrative. Our local California variant was supposed to be a big deal, but no one even talks about it anymore.
joresc
joresc
2 years ago
Hi Mish.
Please look into “Ivermectin”. It is a medication that has been used for decades against parasitic diseases but has also been proven to be extremely effective against COVID both as a therapeutic and as a prophylactic/preventive protocol. It is extremely safe, effective and DIRT CHEAP. 
I’m not an anti-vaxer. I have been fully vaccinated, but if I had known, I would have made other choices. Physicians are prevented from reporting negative sideffects from the vaccines. We need to get the word out and create a critical mass. Thank you.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  joresc
Nobody wants to buy your horde of snake oil.  Just stop it.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Ivermectin is a legitimate treatment, and it appears to work as a prophylaxis  to prevent COVID as well. However, I do not view it as a substitute for getting a vaccination, for most people anyway. I’d certainly think it makes sense  for people in other countries who can’t get the vaccine yet to consider Ivermectin prophylaxis if they are at significant risk (like healthcare providers) , and to consider using it for early treatment if they get infected.
Not snake oil. I took it. I don’t take snake oil. I follow evidence based treatment protocols.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Ivermectin is not snake oil. There are 58 positive studies/trials. The scientist who discovered Ivermectin, says the trials are very clear evidence that is effective against Covid.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Have you any idea how many life-saving medicines come from snakes? Lots!
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Well then… I stand corrected.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Kiss a snake to show your gratitude. 
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
2 years ago
Reply to  joresc
….I d like to get my hands on some, ivermectin is not registered in the EU so you cant get it at the local pharmacist’s  , could buy it on the Net ;  50 Euro for a couple of pills, + shipping,  some are obviously abusing the situation  here ….What is ‘dirt cheap’ in the US ?
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Silver made a swing low. Hopefully that marks a bottom. Gold has not followed suit so far. I’m still underwater on my SLV trade, but it’s looking better. I expect a slow climb out of this hole.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I’m just going to hold and ride it out.  All my day trade thrashing was earning me less than if I had just held.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I’m waiting until hopefully the 5 day RSI gets back into overbought territory…..which I don’t  expect for a few weeks at least. I do expect to be made whole, but I’m not real excited anymore about a breakout above $30 for silver this summer.
frozeninthenorth
frozeninthenorth
2 years ago
I find your comment right on the money, its a valid question to ask, why the freakout over 12 cases?  On the other hand I find it amazing how those who comment on your blog have made it into a political issue, when its a really a public health issue.  Aside from everything else one has to wonder why the CDC was so ineffective. 
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RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
If it was a health issue, the FDA would never have blocked HCQ and Ivermectin to use in early treatment of Covid.
FDA approved drugs can be used off label. There is something fishy going on.
Rbm
Rbm
2 years ago
My take is its not going away.  There is still a large percent of of the population who have not had it or got vaxed.   At this point everyone is gonna move on.  Its gonna kill some people and ruin lives.  Along the way some people will make the decision to get the shot.   I just hope there is not some mutation that cancels the vaccine. 
 
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
That’s indeed what is going to happen. It will continue to infect people, and to kill people, but not at pandemic levels, more at residual levels, like the annual flu. Some who have been vaccinated will die from a covid infection anyway, and even more from the un-vaccinated group will die from covid, though they have the opinion that those who were vaccinated will die from the vaccine. We each have a right to choose which risk we prefer.
So, Covid is likely to remain endemic. and be with us forever. It will mutate, because viruses always do. In what ways? Hopefully it will mutate as OC43 did. OC43 is a coronavirus that first appeared in humans about 1880, and which some believe was the cause of the Russian Flu pandemic. Over the last 140 years it has mutated, and now is one of many viruses that causes symptoms we know as the “common cold”.  While Covid will definitely continue to mutate, there is no guarantee it will mutate to become mild, but we can hope. It could, as you mention, mutate into a variant against which the vaccine provides limited protection. I don’t think that’s a major concern, though, as they can make a booster that protects against whatever new variants occur.
So, the bottom line is, the virus will continue to exist in the human population. People will die from it every year. But, life will go on. It will just be one of many causes of death that are a potential risks facing us each time we leave our homes.
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
 We will see.  Just because you’re tired of it, it’s not tired of us.
It’s been a long road, but there is still a ways to go.
There is a surge now in the south among the unvaccinated.
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On May 8th, the Delta variant accounted for 1.2% of coronavirus isolates in the U.S. A couple of days ago, 20.6% of the isolates were Delta. In the U.K. surge, there is a 5-fold high of positivity among children 5-12 and young adults 18-24, versus people older than 65 years old.
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and in Australia, 
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and in Europe

Holidaymakers worried about the Delta coronavirus variant destroying their vacation plans can cautiously relax — so long as Europe keeps pushing ahead on vaccinations and jumps on any outbreaks.

That’s what most experts are saying about the Delta variant, first identified in India, as it sweeps across the U.K., pushing up rates of infection since mid-May to a link to coronavirus.data.gov.uk. In a country where 60 percent of adults have had two vaccine doses and 80 percent at least one dose, Delta now link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk 99 percent of infections and has prompted the government to link to politico.eu a full reopening in England until mid-July.

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Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  njbr
I heard on NPR that the Blackfoot Rez in the Dakotas somewhere have 90% vaccination rates. They knew they were high risk, and their tribal elders got out the word and they got great compliance. I wish the rest of the US population was that smart. The idea that we might have a surge just because  people are scared of the vaccine is kinda nuts really.
I have read and watched a number of videos (including Eric Weinstein) and I remain convinced that the problems are well within the expected numbers….and so far none of the known side effects is a sufficient reason to avoid the shots. I know there are cases of blood clots in some women and there is cardiomyopathy in a very small number of juveniles…..and I know about the toxicity of the spike protein and that it seems to accumulate in the reproductive organs of women and in bone marrow. 
The Delta variant AFAIK is not resistant to any of the vaccines. Of course new variants are a legitimate concern….so people should get vaccinated.
I’m amused by the media still saying that minorities and persons of color are experiencing a higher level of infections…..when it’s pretty clear anybody who wants a shot can get one here. I don’t have much sympathy for anti-vaxxers who get COVID. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Sorry, meant Bret Weinstein, the other Weinstein bro.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
The Absolute Risk Reduction from getting the shot, according to the trial data, was only 1%.
My risk is only 1% higher than those who have gotten vaccinated.
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
It’s unwise for those is the extremely low risk categories or for those whom have had Covid for sure to get vaxxed because these covid vaccines have a lower safety profile than most and the risk of side effects from the vaccine are possibly higher than the covid risk for some. Unless you wish to take one for the team and cut the retransmission risk quite a bit by being vaxxed.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Every year there is a new flu version.  There will always be new Covid versions also.  [shrug]
BillSanDiego
BillSanDiego
2 years ago
They have to keep the fear going so that they can use it to manipulate the 2022 midterm election. They cannot say the virus is died down and then attempt to bring it back, so they have to keep it going. If the bill in Congress to “protect access to elections” had passed they would not have to keep the fear going, but that bill appears to be failing, so they have to keep the pandemic alive.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  BillSanDiego
How is Biden failing to control the pandemic going to help his election chances? 
I still see quite a few people in masks, but I think it’s politeness more than anything.  Nobody gets mad at the people that don’t have them.  Nobody’s panicked. This is over, for everyone  but the unvaccinated, and they think everything is juuuuust fine.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
There was a news story a few weeks back when CA was getting set to remove the mask mandate on 6/15 where people were saying they felt uncomfortable w/o a mask and would continue to wear one.  I say go ahead if that makes anyone feel comfortable.  
PostCambrian
PostCambrian
2 years ago
Covid statistics and data are something for REAL scientists and doctors to monitor. They should come up with proposals for best practices and behaviors. Then policymakers should review these proposals with an emphasis on a true and transparent cost/benefit analysis with all parties involved. The idea is to minimize the spread of Covid with the least amount of effort and cost. I happen to feel that masks are a minimal effort and cost except the cost to restaurants and bars. If the populace could reduce Covid spread to a minimum elsewhere then perhaps the risk at restaurants and bars would also be minimal. The main approach should be true science and transparent cost/benefit analysis with pragmatic implementation.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  PostCambrian
The doctors did come up with best practices and behaviors.
Then policymakers used them to grandstand and sling mud. 
Then the dumber third of the population refused to follow them.
As a wise man once said: “You can’t fix stupid”, and stupid is the real epidemic.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
COVID is an example of how politics is being guised as science. Global warming is another. The Biden administration is the most unscientific administration in my lifetime.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
It is a time to celebrate. This time last year I figured my odds of dying from COVID were significant. I’ve been contemplating a trip to Guatemala.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Your odds of dying on a trip to Guatemala (assuming a week minimum) are probably higher than your odds ever were of dying from Covid. Check the Safety and Security tab.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Going to lead La Revolución?

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