Producer Prices at the Intermediate Level Rising Even Faster, What Does It Portend?

PPI Synopsis 

  • Stage 1: 20.79%
  • Stage 2: 28.05%
  • Stage 3 20.60%
  • Stage 4 12.87
  • PPI Final: 9.62%
  • CPI: 6.81%

At the intermediate stages, producer prices are rising much faster than PPI for final demand. In turn, the PPI is rising much faster than the CPI.

What does that say about future passthrough? Lets’ hone in for another look.

PPI Final Demand, Intermediate Demand, CPI YOY Detail

No Leading Indicators

There does not seem to be any clear leading indicators. In April of 2020 the PPI at all stages bottomed before the CPI but only by a month and with no other instances. 

The period from June 2021 to September 2021 is interesting in that the CPI declined slightly while PPI for final demand jumped and the intermediate levels were mixed. 

Overall, the intermediate stages are more volatile in both directions than the PPI for final demand which in turn is more volatile than the CPI.

Same Direction, Different Amplitudes

Mostly, these measures all move in sync with no predictive value. 

I often hear people saying things like “It’s only a matter of time before there is a passthrough from intermediate to the CPI” but there is no discernable CPI lag other than a random month here or there. 

The prices tend to move together albeit with far different amplitudes. 

PPI Notes 

The final demand portion of the FD-ID system measures price changes from the producer perspective for commodities sold as personal consumption, capital investment, to government, and as exports. The system is composed of six main price indexes: final demand goods; final demand trade services; final demand transportation and warehousing services; final demand services excluding trade, transportation, and warehousing; final demand construction; and overall final demand.

The intermediate demand portion of the FD-ID system tracks price changes from a producer perspective for goods, services, and construction products sold to businesses as inputs to production, excluding capital investment. The system includes two parallel treatments of intermediate demand. The first treatment organizes intermediate demand commodities by type and is composed of six main price indexes: unprocessed goods for intermediate demand; processed goods for intermediate demand; intermediate demand trade services; intermediate demand transportation and warehousing services; intermediate demand services less trade, transportation, and warehousing; and intermediate demand construction. The second treatment organizes intermediate demand commodities into production stages, with the explicit goal of developing a forward-flow model of production and price change.

These indexes can be used to study price transmission across stages of production and final demand. This system is constructed in a manner that maximizes forward flow of production between stages, while minimizing back-flow of production. The production flow treatment contains four main indexes: intermediate demand stage 1, intermediate demand stage 2, intermediate demand stage 3, and intermediate demand stage 4.

PPI Components 

Just for gins I took a deep dive into PPI Components. There are tens of thousands of them, and also replicated in multiple ways. For example there are different numbers by stage. 

The Excel tables are enormous, and there are lots of them. I condensed one of the tables with over 5,500 lines to smaller number of items using the BLS’s primary categories.

PPI Percentage Weights Unprocessed Goods Intermediate

Somehow processed foods and feeds is a category of unprocessed goods. 

PPI Percentage Weights Processed Goods Intermediate

PPI Percentage Weights Services Intermediate

The bottom 15 BLS Services are all under one percentage point in weight 

As an example of the captured detail, please note the weight of “Great Lakes-St Lawrence Seaway Water Transportation of Freight” is 0.013% of the services PPI.

Real estate services are over 7% of the services PPI, portfolio management is 2.8%, commissions from sales of insurance is 3.3%, and investment banking adds 1.4% to the PPI.

Question of the Day

How much time, energy, cost, and people are involved in capturing and quantifying this data?

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Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
I know that I’ve been raising my prices faster than the CPI, but also that my costs are rising faster than my prices. It will be interesting to see what happens if Congress does finally pass the “Build Inflation Better” bill, as I expect they will.
Yooper
Yooper
2 years ago
At the expense of bringing up old prophecies about driver-less trucks and squeezing out costs, this was just put out in our local paper 🙂
“The push to one day make autonomous trucks a common highway sight is coming through.

Aurora Innovation Inc., a Pittsburgh-headquartered self-driving
tech startup that offers products including an autonomous trucking
service, says it is exploring the integration of its trucking technology
into Uber Freight’s brokerage network.

Aurora — which has offices in has offices in the San Francisco Bay
Area; Dallas; Seattle; Bozeman, Mont.; Louisville, Colo.; and Wixom,
Mich. — announced the move Wednesday.

Already, as part of a multistage commercial pilot, Aurora’s Horizon
trucking products are autonomously hauling cargo between Dallas and
Houston for Uber Freight customers, a company
spokesman said.”

RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
“At the stage 2 intermediate level, producer prices are up 28.05% from a year ago.”  “What Does It Portend?”
That items at the dollar store will be a dollar 25? Oh, that already happened.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
“That items at the dollar store will be a dollar 25? Oh, that already happened.”
We’re in the price increase phase … 2022 will see how demand holds up … sans massive fiscal stimulus of past 18 months …
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Just as we once had Five and Dime stores, I expect  One and Two Dollar stores soon.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Then ten dollar stores.
With shelves emptier and emptier every step of the way.
As well as million dollar stores. Reserved for party members and those they arbitrarily hand access cards/welfare to. And guarded by ever increasing military and police presence. There, the shelves will, of course, be better and better stocked.
Just like in the Soviet utopia “we” are so adamant about recreating, on Jefferson’s defecated-on grave.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“At the intermediate stages, producer prices are rising much faster than PPI for final demand. In turn, the PPI is rising much faster than the CPI.”
Good luck passing along the full costs to end user.
What is / will happen are business margins getting squeezed … and business will do everything they can to protect margin by cutting costs. 
Hhhm, where can I reduce expense? … “hey you,  … yeah you … the one leaning on the broom …”
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
As John Hussman has repeatedly noted, corporate profit margins are one of the most consistently mean-reverting of all economic indicators.
They have just managed to stretch out this cycle to such an extreme length that few (except Hussman) still believe that.
A rude awakening is coming up.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Yes.  Many costs for business are “fixed”.  Labor is “variable”. Execs usually look at variable first as easiest to cut.
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

Cutting wages seems a long way off to me at the moment. Massive staff shortages everywhere and getting much worse because everyone’s getting Omicron at the same time. They’ve just appealed for retired teachers to come back to work to help over here. Hospitals are filling up and health workers are getting ill. So even if it’s a milder virus it’s effects are considerable. They reckon one person is spreading it to 3/4. 

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
2 years ago
Some of this is just throwing mud on the wall and seeing what sticks.  These companies have been wanting to raise prices forever but … deflation or what was the story two years ago?  The supply chain stuff will eventually sort itself out though wtf lumber.  So that big rain storm a couple weeks ago in BC nearly doubled lumber back to covid peaks.  Clearly we are finding out that just in time and other system ‘improvements’ may be ticking bombs.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Very interesting observations about the whole “pass through” narrative, which I would have thought would be a real thing. Goes to show.
We worship data too much these days. With enough trees to distract you, it’s easy to lose sight of the forest.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Inflation on average is clearly up, but it’s very uneven. Lumber is way up, but bricks are about the same, so instead of building a raised bed with lumber, I’ll use stone. Looks better and last forever anyway.
Beef is a lot more expensive, but chicken costs about the same. So, I’ll eat chicken. Actually I buy meat and my kids cook and eat it, so I don’t care what kind of meat I buy.
I had to pay $500 for tree cutting and removal for a 20′ cherry tree that was not in danger of hitting anything. Last year, I could probably get it done for $300.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
And to think, it didn’t cost George Washington anything to cut down a cherry tree.

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