Senate Election Races Are Moving Targets, What Can Republicans Do About It?

Yesterday, I put together spreadsheets in an attempt to figure out what percentage of the remaining votes Catherine Cortez Masto would need to get to overcome Republicans Adam Laxalt’s current lead in the Nevada Senate race.

My idea would have been sound if I had accurate counts of remaining votes. But there are two problems.

  • Estimated numbers of uncounted votes vary widely
  • The number of remaining votes is a guaranteed moving target

A Tweet Thread by Sean Golonka explains. 

  • With about 887k votes counted statewide so far, Republican candidates at the very top of the ticket are leading, but there are results from more than 110k mail ballots still to be reported.
  • In the Senate race, Laxalt (R) leads Cortez Masto (D) by 15.8k votes. In the governor’s race, Lombardo (R) leads Sisolak (D) by 34.1k votes. 
  • The two most populous counties, Clark (where Las Vegas is) and Washoe (where Reno is), are both still processing and counting a large volume of mail ballots, including ballots left in Election Day drop boxes and mail ballots that continue to be delivered from the postal services.
  • The latest numbers for mail ballots that we are still waiting on vote tallies from are about: – 70k mail ballots outstanding in Clark – 40k mail ballots outstanding in Washoe
  • Those 110k mail numbers do not include all of the mail ballots postmarked by Election Day that can and will continue arrive through Saturday.
  • I’ll keep reminding you all of this because state law allows mail ballots received by four days after Election Day to be counted, and in tight races, those can really matter.
  • Here are a few other key factors for potentially very narrow races: # of provision ballots,  # of spoiled ballots,  # of ballots that need signature curing (cure deadline is Monday, Nov. 14)
  • As we await more results, it is worth noting that the latest mail batches have swung heavily in Dems’ favor. – Yesterday, in a batch of 20k mail ballots reported in Washoe, CCM won 61% to Laxalt’s 36% – In a batch of 14k ballots reported in Clark, CCM won 65% to Laxalt’s 30%
  • I’ll hopefully have additional details later this morning on what results look like in other statewide Nevada races, but for today, I’ll be looking out for next mail ballot counts reported in Clark and Washoe, and whether election officials in either county have announcements.

Arguing for Laxalt

Although that matches my initial assessment, I’m not here to tell you what you want to hear. I’m here to tell you what I think. 

I’ve changed my mind. 

We have no idea how many more votes there are left to count. It’s a moving target, negating any percentage math. 

A similar setup exists in Arizona. People keep asking me why those states are still counting. There’s your answer. 

It’s certain Trump will be all over this with more allegations of stolen election. 

Stop the Steal

Kari Lake, running for Arizona Governor is in a similar setup. She is one of the  great MAGA supporters screaming Stop the Steal

As her Democratic opponent held a slight lead Tuesday night with votes still being tabulated and no media outlets calling the race in either direction, Lake was undeterred when she spoke on stage to supporters, declaring, “We are going to continue to monitor the ballots.… When we win, the first line of action is to restore honesty to Arizona elections.” After so ably channeling Trump, better than any other candidate in 2022, Lake has ended up as the last MAGA standing.

It didn’t take long on the morning of Election Day for Lake supporters to fall back on the Stop the Steal narrative. Arizona was ripe for this: Throughout her gubernatorial campaign, Lake clung to conspiracy theories about a stolen election in 2020 and would not commit to accepting the results in her own election. (As of early Wednesday afternoon, with about a third of votes left to be counted, Lake and her Democratic opponent, Katie Hobbs, the current Arizona secretary of state, are separated by a narrow margin in Hobbs’s favor.) With Lake turning back to raising unfounded fears of fraud Tuesday, the Stop the Steal set even got to return to its initial backdrop, Maricopa County, where Trump supporters had rallied in November 2020, calling his loss a fraud and setting in motion weeks of chaos stretching all the way to Congress.

Around 9:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Lake responded to problems with some vote tabulators in Maricopa County by telling voters not to go to a different location instead, saying if they did their ballot “likely will not count,” which reporters debunked as misinformation that would possibly disenfranchise her own voters. Nevertheless, her post was retweeted more than 10,000 times by the time she spoke to reporters after casting her own vote in Maricopa County a few hours later. 

Claims about Maricopa County were by then spreading fast, with the Election Integrity Partnership counting over 40,000 posts on Twitter about the tabulation errors, with a pronounced spike after a tweet from Charlie Kirk of Turning Point USA. Kirk had claimed that “Democrats running elections here knew this would happen. Traffic jam by design. DONT LET THEM DO 2020 AGAIN.” This was further spread on Telegram by Stop the Steal organizer Ali Alexander and white supremacist Nick Fuentes, among others. Trump himself piled on: “Can’t let this happen, AGAIN!!!” 

Along with Laxalt in Nevada, Lake is another hand-picked Trump-backed candidate that seems poised to go up in flames. 

Nothing is decided yet, but the math is very challenging for the Republicans in both states. 

What Republicans Can and Cannot Do

Republicans cannot change election laws. They can bitch and moan and scream stop the steal like maniacs. 

The results of bitching and moaning and screaming stop the steal are in. 

Voters are sick of it. Trump’s hand-pick candidates are  about to lose almost every key race.

Biggest Loser of the Night Donald Trump, Biggest Winner Ron DeSantis

At 1:00 AM on Wednesday, November 9, I penned Biggest Loser of the Night Donald Trump, Biggest Winner Ron DeSantis

Trump-backed candidates went down in Pennsylvania, Arizona, New Hampshire and trail in Georgia.

It’s uncertain but likely we can add the Nevada Senate race and the Arizona governor’s race to that mix.

The Wall Street Journal came to a similar conclusion in a series of articles but my post was out first.

I received little pushback for my post. But months ago, when I wrote about this well in advance. 

The TDS accusing crowd was all over me.

Flashback August 8, 2022

Please recall my August 8 post Will Trump Cost Republicans the Senate Once Again?

If my take is accurate, Republicans need to win both Georgia and Nevada to retake the Senate. That’s not impossible, but it’s difficult. 

Wow. 

I should have stuck with that forecast throughout. But towards the end, polls skewed towards Republicans and I thought they would win. 

Trump Flopped in 2018, 2020, 2021 and 2022

How much more of this can Republicans take? Here are some key points from the first WSJ link. 

This is a free link: Trump Is the Republican Party’s Biggest Loser

  • In New Hampshire, the Trump-endorsed Republican Don Bolduc lost to Sen. Maggie Hassan, 53% to 45%, as of the latest data. At the same time voters re-elected Republican Gov. Chris Sununu by 16 points.
  • In Arizona the Trump-endorsed Republican Blake Masters trails Sen. Mark Kelly, 51% to 47%. This is a state successful Gov. Doug Ducey won by 14 points in 2018. Mr. Ducey could have won the Senate seat, but Mr. Trump pledged to go to war with him because Mr. Ducey refused to entertain 2020 fraud theories.
  • In Pennsylvania, the Trump-endorsed Republican Mehmet Oz lost to John Fetterman, 51% to 47%. This is a tough state for the GOP. But Mr. Fetterman was a weak candidate: He’s a lefty with a record of wanting Medicare for All and a ban on fracking, and he’s recovering from a stroke. David McCormick would have been a better Republican nominee, but he wouldn’t say the 2020 election was stolen, so Mr. Trump endorsed Mr. Oz.
  • In Georgia, the Trump-endorsed Republican Herschel Walker trails Sen. Raphael Warnock, 49.4% to 48.5%. This is going to a December runoff, which Mr. Walker could win. But Gov. Brian Kemp won re-election by eight points. Mr. Walker’s flaws as a candidate were obvious, but Mr. Trump helped clear the primary field and other candidates opted out.
  • In Ohio the Trump-endorsed Republican J.D. Vance won a solid victory over Rep. Tim Ryan, 53% to 47%, while Republican Gov. Mike DeWine won by 26 points. Mr. Vance was a poor fundraiser. As of Oct. 19 he’d pulled in $12 million to Mr. Ryan’s $47 million. What saved him was $32 million from the Senate Leadership Fund (SLF), a Super Pac aligned with Mitch McConnell. Mr. Vance trailed in the polls until mid-October.
  • Doug Mastriano, Pennsylvania’s Trump-endorsed gubernatorial choice, lost by 14 points. Tim Michels in Wisconsin and Tudor Dixon in Michigan fumbled winnable gubernatorial races. Also in Michigan, Mr. Trump helped John Gibbs beat GOP Rep. Peter Meijer in the primary in the Grand Rapids seat because Mr. Meijer voted to impeach him. Mr. Gibbs lost by 13 points. 
  • Mr. Trump could have stayed quiet in the final weeks of the campaign except to spend money to help his candidates. But he did little of the latter and instead staged rallies that played into Democratic hands. His rally in Latrobe last week might have hurt Mr. Oz with suburban voters who cost Mr. Trump the state in 2020.

Trump’s Perfect Record

Since his unlikely victory in 2016 against the widely disliked Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump has a perfect record of electoral defeat.

“We’re going to win so much,” Mr. Trump once said, “that you’re going to get sick and tired of winning.”

What Should Republicans Do?

First and foremost, Trump is a loser. Hillary is probably the only person he could have beaten. 

Looking behind is a losing tactic. The party needs to abandon Trump, but smartly. 

The correct way, as shown by Florida governor Ron DeSantis and Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, is to ignore him or simply respond to reporter questions “It’s time to move on.”

Second, it’s futile to bitch about election rules. Trump told people to vote in person whereas Democrats said vote early.

It’s clear which is the winning strategy.

Personally, I think one should have a voter ID and vote in person unless there is a genuine reason (out of town, military, hospitalized, etc.). However, my opinion does not matter at all. 

Nevada and Arizona and other states all have their own rules. One can bitch about those rules or legally attempt to take advantage of them.

Democrats chose to take advantage, Republicans moan about the rules.

The Republican goal should be 99% turnout. I bet it was not close. And voting by mail is the only way it could happen. 

Republicans need to do a far better job of dealing with “what is” instead of bitching about the way they want things to be. 

Trump wants Republicans to vote in person instead of opting to get the maximum number of Republicans voting by mail where rules allow.  

Trump got his wish. 

We will never know the answer to this question but I cannot help wondering: How many rural Republican Nevada voters intended to vote but for one reason or another didn’t.

Failure to take advantage of mail-in voting may have cost Republicans close elections in Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania. 

Looking Ahead 

For now, we can be grateful for the Congressional deadlock. 

But as noted well in advance of this election, it’s time to move on. 

Trump is the past. DeSantis or someone unknown is the future.

This post originated at MishTalk.Com.

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wmjack50
wmjack50
1 year ago
Changes in the voting methods due to Covid Should be stopped—Mail in Ballots are full of fraud due to who counts the vote–Demoncrats–they fill the ranks of vote processors—As Stalin said ” Let the people vote BUT I count the vote”—
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
What can they do? Stop running Kooky Kandidates.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
And start running candidates that recently had strokes and have trouble with simple verbal communication.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Or running candidates that vote for legislation to force a doctor to lie to their patients.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Laxalt now slightly over 8K ahead, 0.9% lead, with 87% counted.
It’s starting to look like a Masto upset.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
90% counted now, Laxalt 9K ahead
damn close, I personally wouldn’t bet either way
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Nevada, Laxalt’s lead just dropped to 1.4%, 12.6K votes ahead now.
The rate of 2-D to 1-R in mail/drop-off votes doesn’t seem to be receding and it’s at 86% counted now.
Last night it was 2.7% with 80% counted.
This is getting interesting.
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Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
I have to laugh at all the old Repubs with the old canard about the young shifting Republican as they age. Dream on! My kids were Democrats when they were young and they are Democrats now that they are in their 40s. So are all their friends. The difference is EDUCATION. Only poorly educated idiots vote Republican.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Actually if you look at the maps, it’s urban dwellers who vote democrat and rural people who vote republican.
Go take a look at the Red/Blue map in terms of counties that are Red/Blue. 95% or better of the map is Red with Blue dots where the major cities are.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Very true, but despite Esclaro’s insultive prose, it’s also true that college grads tend to vote more D, blue collar votes R.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
I thought Blue Collar (union workers) voted D?
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
No, that changed years ago with the decline of unions, the vast majority of blue collar & trades vote R.
Strike up a politics conversation the next time your plumber comes by.
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Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

That’s where the educated people live.

ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
I mean, I have advanced degrees and an undergrad degree from MIT, 52 yo… I didn’t fully transition to the GOP until my oldest’s teachers told my 6yo that he could change genders on a daily basis (without informing me, let alone asking for permission) and my wife & I observed him trying to teach it to our 4yo. My 6yo is now 7, progressing with his homeschooled math & science beyond what I ever could have done, our mini-Rain Man (yes, he’s autistic, so am I, and as a matter of trivia, I’ve met the real Rain Man)
I guess what I’m saying is that your kids aren’t a lost cause yet, they could still come around. I was a partisan Dem well into my 40s. But keep thinking Republicans are uneducated idiots if it makes you feel good.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Absurd BS. Over 80% of blacks are democrats. Roughly 2/3rds of Hispanics. Blacks and Hispanics, on average, have a far lower level of education than Whites and Asians.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
“Only poorly educated idiots vote Republican.”
Useful idiots vote Democrat.
wmjack50
wmjack50
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Welfare recipients vote Democrat—Great Society—made money baby production a business as 75% of minorities don’t marry–now almost 50% majority don’t marry to get the Administrative State’s monthly cash—Problem is the money printing is making everyone poorer—But these money babies grow up at 18 the money STops and money babies turn to crime and money baby production as well–again we all suffer except for the lawyers (Democrat) who benefit ( USA has more lawyers than any other country)
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
“Republicans cannot change election laws”
Why not? Democrats change election laws all the time – always in ways that favor themselves.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
For example?
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
For example, mail-in voting laws. Democrats have made it easy for people to vote by mail, and thus far easier for Democrats to commit voter fraud.
Another example, voting without the need to show any ID. Again, encouraging Democrat voter fraud.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
“He’s a lefty with a record of wanting Medicare for All and a ban on fracking … “

Neither of which has any chance of coming true under any DONORcrat administration anywhere (heck, HR Clinton practically vowed that single-payer health insurance will “never ever come to pass”). Nothing progressive will ever come to fruition with the DONORcrats. There *is* a road for progressives inside the DONORcrat Party, but it leads to a graveyard.

8dots
8dots
1 year ago
They are middle class, upper middle class and billionaires.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
It’s a win/ win for republicans : the got rid of Al Sharpton, Nancy and Trump. The D will knock off R policies to neuter the other side. They will surf on the R wave, or tumble and sink under the falling NDX. DeSantis FL is a function of Biden. // The south is 40% black. The D old policies of trash a place and get white people RE for 75% discount is not working anymore. The south is US industrial hub. It’s booming. Black and the Latinos became middle and upper middle class. They don’t need Tawana garbage can regime change in their lives. DeSantis, Rubio, Yougkin…Saint Pence is a traitor.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  8dots
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Darmok and Jalad on the ocean. The beast at Tanagra. Temba, his arms open.
Temba, at rest. Zinda, his face black, his eyes red. Kiazi’s children, their faces wet. Shaka, when the walls fell.
Mirab, with sails unfurled.
Spicemaster
Spicemaster
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45

Sokath, his eyes open!

MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago

I see a trend:

1. Trump Taj Mahal

2. Trump’s Castle

3. Trump Plaza Casinos

4. Trump Plaza Hotel

5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

7. the republican party
(8. The U.S.A.?)
All bankruptcies accomplished with other people’s money.
Sheer shrewdness & angry insistence with zero substance is a failure for a business model regardless how “con”fident the promoter appears, it’s both tragic and hilarious at the same time that so many Americans are gullible enough to think it is.
Trump has taken his long history of bankruptcies and transferred that “success” to an entire political party, he seeks to do it for the entire country.
Here’s the rest of that list of failures –
1. Trump Steaks, 2. GoTrump, 3. Trump Airlines, 4. Trump Vodka, 5. Trump Mortgage, 6. Trump: The Game, 7. Trump Magazine, 8. Trump University, 9. Trump Ice, 10. The New Jersey Generals, 11. Tour de Trump, 12. Trump Network, 13. Trumped!
Why are there so many people that don’t see this pattern?
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MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Oh I see the pattern:
1. california – votes democrat – GDP $3.4 Trillion
2. google – vote/leans democrat – Market cap $1.2 Trillion
3. apple – run by a gay guy – Market cap $2.3 Trillion
4. microsoft – vote/leans democrat – Market cap $1.8 Trillion
I could go on but you get the point. I never sat down and did the gdp/market cap for “Trump country” but I doubt it would be 20% of what I listed above for ALL of it.
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
You need them way more than they need you, regardless of GDP.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  shamrock
The only thing I need is money. Whether dems or repubs are in office is largely irrelevant, I adjust my investment strategy to compensate for the noise of the political party in office. Guess which party has more money?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
They just can’t resist his tv preacher allure.
bowwow
bowwow
1 year ago
It seems like there are some states that have a harder time counting the votes. But, those states aren’t the only ones with a lot of VBM ballots.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
I think the overturning of long held cases by the Supreme Court is going to help elect Democrats going forward. Conservatives got what they wanted. At some point, enough states will pass an amendment to the constitution making the supreme court an elected office with term limits like any other office. A lifetime appointment to anything isn’t what democracies are made of.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“A lifetime appointment to anything isn’t what democracies are made of.”
The Constitution is not a popularity contest. The U.S. is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. By the way, i don’t see the democrats moving to eliminate the numerous un-elected bureaucracies in the federal government. Fauci had a lifetime appointment.
Democrats would have had a fit if Trump had fired him.
Democrats are not for democracy.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
A “a constitutional republic.” is a Democracy.
At the time of Constitutional writ, the word “Democracy” did not exist.
I find it hilarious when Russians try to define American government.
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ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Keep the outside sentences and remove the middle sentences, then you’re spot on
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
As usual, anyone interested in what is happening with politics or economics only needs to really look at demographics. Gen Z voted 68% in favor of democrats. So why are races in Georgia and Arizona so tight? Just look at the demographics, I copied some data from Census.gov for Georgia and Arizona. Both of these states have young populations. Florida went deep red…why? Because it has the most boomers and aging population.
This election cycle is a turning point, it is the point at which boomers become less relevant and millennials and younger start taking control of governments. Republicans should be terrified because most young people don’t like their politics, don’t take my word for it, look at the election results. Boomers had a great run, but there time is coming to an end, figuratively and literally.
Georgia
5.9% 5 or younger
23.4% under 18
56% Over 18 < 65
14.7% 65+
Arizona
5.5% 5 or younger
22.2% Under 18
54% Over 18 < 65
18.3% Over 65
Florida
21.1% Over 65
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
“Republicans should be terrified because most young people don’t like their politics”
You could have said the same thing 20, 40 or 60 years ago. There’s a natural political progression for people as they hit different stages in life. One day the Gen Zs will be Republicans wondering why their grandkids vote for Democrats.
Democrats are born. Republicans are made.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970
40 or 60 years ago the demographics were fairly homogeneous, not so today which leads to an interesting question about what happens with the Republican party. Who do republicans court when they have alienated Women, LGBT, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. What is the Republican platform in 2024? 2028?
Whatever repubs were pushing in 2022 didn’t motivate many to vote for them. Scare tactics of crime, inflation, biden dementia, etc scored poorly. Repubs barely scrapped a few more seats in congress, wait till 2024 rolls around and see it falter even more especially after more boomers die off over the next two years and more Gen Z and Millenials vote.
I am going to bookmark this post and we can check back in two years.
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
What nonsense. Republicans haven’t alienated any of the groups you mentioned. Far from it. There are vast numbers of Republican women, blacks, etc. Hispanics are hard-working and conservative, and natural Republican material. Republicans are GAINING support among blacks and hispanics:
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
I’ll split the difference with the two of you…
They’re gaining with Hispanics (keep calling them LatinX if you’re a Dem, see how that works out), losing with blacks, mixed with women (gaining with mothers, losing with non-reproducing women)
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
Baghdad Bob! We’ve missed you!
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Missed you too! But now my community service is over I’m back on line. Sorry… I’m tearing up…
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
Let’s see what happens in 2024. Like I said, I booked-marked this link, we’ll check back in in ’24, ’26, and ’28 and watch the repubs disintegrate or start acting more like Dems. Many are called RINOs now anyway….
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
It’s always funny when Russians use Google search to debate Americans about American policy.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
I’d say check back in 10-20 years, and then again in 40 and 60 years.
At each point, you’ll find the voters roughly split between the same 2 parties. It won’t be a coincidence, each Party selects issues intentionally to split the electorate and the voters provide a feedback loop for them to adjust after each election. It’s worked to keep them in power for decades, and it’ll work until it doesn’t. If Trump didn’t destroy either Party, what will?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  ajc1970
The big transition is for people with empty retirement in front of the tv that get addicted to the adrenaline and cortisol Fox News fills them with.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
The bigger transition is for those of us whose TV suddenly has only Disney movies playing
Parenting rearranges your entire life, including what private and public services you need
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
“This election cycle is a turning point, it is the point at which boomers become less relevant and millennials and younger start taking control of governments”
Yes, but I see another disturbing trend, debt:
Republicans paying off the donor class with lowered taxes in exchange for campaign contributions.
Democrats, and now Republicans too, buying votes in exchange for stimulus and social entitlements.
We have a $31 trillion hole, go figure, it’s a mystery.
You might recall back in 2012, on Fox news when Karl Rove was shocked, horrified on live TV that Obama beat Romney after Rove had spent a collective $300 million to “buy” Romney’s presidency via his SuperPAC’s, and got nothing.
This, I suspect, is when it started to become obvious that public opinion was becoming less gullible, money is losing is ability to sway elections, which is why Trump so readily signed off on stimulus in 2020 and the GOP didn’t bat an eye as they did with Obama in 2009.
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TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
If it’s a turning point then what we should see going forward are younger candidates for congress/senate/president.
That’s really the big issue for both parties. They are still running silent generation people (Biden, Pelosi, Trump) for the highest offices. We’ve got to get rid of those before we can get rid of the boomers! No one older than Gen-X should be newly running now (ie the boomers and older who are in should finish current terms and retire).
Avery
Avery
1 year ago
Hi Mish.
Maybe you can discuss with Gonzalo at his next Roundtable Open House –
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GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Mish,
Actually the Republican tide that didn’t appear is a good thing. The country is headed towards a depression and it’s good that the Democratics will be seen as mostly responsible. Of course both parties are, at their root, the same. There is little difference on foreign wars, exporting jobs (mission accomplished!), bailing out the banksters, and open boarders, … In short, we have the best government money can buy!
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
How do we get two-factor authentication? We do it to comment and follow Mish!
Philc56
Philc56
1 year ago
Hey Mish, how about returning to your real purpose in the “Global Economic Trend Analysis” rather than concentrating on opinions about how the vote may or may not turn out? There is so much happening now – the S&P500 rocketed up 5.5% today (Thursday Nov-11) and gold is moving rapidly up. These trends are much more important than guessing election results that will reveal themselves in due course. Thanks. Phil
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Reply to  Philc56
But the problem is, the economy is highly dependent on the government. It shouldn’t be. But when you have the level of graft, corruption, and steering of resources by the government that is currently occurring, the vote of jackasses for jackals is highly relevant! (Credit to Mencken)
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Philc56
Mish is doing both. He is multi-talented. He even does photography and posts it here.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
I suggest that elections be done with paper ballots that are traceable. I believe that France does this and counts in a day.
Delayed results create the opportunity for fraud. There is no reason to not be able to count in a day. Ballots mailed, need to be received by election day. It’s not that hard!!
As to fraud, I can’t prove that it happens but it sure is coincidental. Like the 300 ballots found in car trunk that made Al Franken a senator. For other examples, you can go back to LBJ and his first victory, JFK (Chicago votes) and many others. Strangely, all of the “found ballots” are always just enough to pull out a win for a democrat. Still waiting for this to happen the other way.
Also, strangely the dead seem to always vote democrat.
To make elections trusted, count everything in the open (cameras are not expensive), have clean voter roles, require voter ID, all votes received and counted on election day.
Scott_CA
Scott_CA
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt3
Those 300 ballots found in a car trunk were probably found BECAUSE of the traceability rules in place at the time. And as far as mailing ballots, when you have guys in charge of the USPS that intentionally slow the mail as happened recently, that is a problem. During that time it took 2 MONTHS for mail to get to France, usually 7-10 days, twice as long for bill payments to reach the offices (10-14 days cross country), but it is now back to that shorter, reasonable time frame. According to a nice piece from the WashPost April 8, 2022, “DeJoy was hired as postmaster general in June 2020 by the Postal Service’s Trump-appointed governing board. He quickly made operational changes that significantly delayed mail service in the run-up to the 2020 presidential election.” It seems that DeJoy has now seen the light and to keep his job is thinking more clearly. Congress also assisted restructuring USPS finances. States make illogical rules, such as allowing mailin ballots, but not allowing them to be opened and counted before election day, knowing that signatures have to be compared and verified, a quick way to get 110,000+ ballots behind in the counting (NV). It’s been documented again and again that Ds tend to vote by mail more than Rs, so mailin ballots ‘found’ for whatever reason are likely to lean D. As mentioned in the story, Trump/Rs urge people NOT to vote by mail. “Trump told people to vote in person whereas Democrats said vote early. It’s clear which is the winning strategy.” And I won’t even get into the issue of l o n g lines in GA, or TX (Houston?) removing most drop boxes, a smart (but not cheap) way to cut out mailing problems. Some of the red state stories concerning making it difficult to vote are ridiculous, mind-boggling. But I agree that voting without an ID is wrong, and unnecessary because the huge majority of people have driver’s licenses, and other IDs could be used to register or vote–it’s not like Election Day, or going to the polls, is unexpected. Election Day registration also seems to be a less than ideal, even bad, idea, although there is probably nothing wrong with letting the DMV handle the process.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Maybe give up on rallying around the same ole things. God guns immigration abortion. Move a step or two to the center and come up with plans to solve problems. Not just un funded tax cuts which leave us in more debt and really only benefit the wealthy. Rep are supposed to be the party of business owners. Maybe put policies inplace that build the middle class.
Now on a different note. Seeing how the rep are falling on trump and his cronies necks. Wonder how far down the line it will go with say graham cruz etc.
ajc1970
ajc1970
1 year ago
Reply to  Rbm
Abortion is a losing issue for Republicans.
God guns and immigration still has traction.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
I’m in favor of anything that prevents voter fraud. Having fair elections is more important than having as many vote as possible. The idea that proving who you are to vote is somehow racists is absurd. There are lots of things you can’t do without proper ID. Like renting a house, getting a job, buying a car, getting a drivers license. IMO if someone is unable to do any of the aforementioned, they probably shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
And mail in voting is fine, but they need to not allow votes after election day. Tell voters they need to send out their ballot at least a week before election day to be counted. It’s easy to tamper with a postmark and it’s easy for a pollster to ignore the postmark date.
The democrats do a lot to fuel speculation that they’re cheating. Whether or not they’re actually cheating is a different matter.
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Well the main stream media is certainly putting their thumb on the scale. As is the entire pop culture being spewed out on the boobtube and social media.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
It was gen Z that has changed the political dynamics. Surprised to see this on Breitbart.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Young people always vote democrat.
There’s an old saying that goes:
‘If you’re young and you don’t vote democrat, you don’t have a heart’
‘if you’re old and you don’t vote republican, you don’t have a brain’
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
Voting in person is a real economic hardship for most people who work. Also it is very easy to make long lines in areas that you don’t want turnout. Republicans should want free and fair elections. It should be relatively easy to guarantee that only eligible citizens vote and that they only vote once in the entire country. Any voter ID would need to be free.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
A hardship to vote? I consider it a privilege. Almost everywhere, you can vote easily. Vote early, mail in, drop off. In GA we have weeks to do this. ID is free!
If you don’t have an ID it’s just about impossible to do much of anything.
Republicans do want free and fair elections. Which group demonized voter ID and GA election law?
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt3
I consider it meanless which is why I didn’t bother. In case you haven’t figured it out, it’s a rigged game meant to add legitimacy to oligachical rule. Just look at the parade of clowns we’ve had for President. Are you telling me these were the wisest most qualified people to run our country? They’re not even close.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
There was a republican politician (don’t recall name) that said it was time to get off the “Trump Titanic” and I thought it was very telling.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Yeah well they got on the titanic anyway. knowing full well it was gonna hit an iceberg. Watching to see who gets stuck without a life boat.
Says a lot about those politicians dont you think. B
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
The other problem with Trumps candidates (Walker, Oz) is that they are imports into the States they are running in. Neither is someone who is a long time resident of the State and knows the people and shares their values.
If I was a voter there, I wouldn’t vote for someone who wasn’t committed to living there full time and had done so for years or decades. How could you possibly imagine they would properly represent you?
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Well Dr. Oz now has plenty of time for his crudites that he eats with avocado, salsa and washes down with Tequila.
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
At least Dr. Oz wasn’t brain damaged from a stroke. It really says a lot about our “sacred Democracy”, when a mentally incapacitated person is voted into office. Perhaps we should call it a Rubeocracy.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
It says that the old line of:
“The Democrats could run a donkey and it would still get elected”
has now been proven to be 100% true.
It makes me wonder in the future why Democrats would ever want another Manchin or Sienna as a Senator. Better to just run mentally incapacitated people for the Senate and then have them controlled like puppets by the ‘party’ and vote exactly how the party wants.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
“Stop the Steal” is part of the anti-intellectuals’ campaign to dumb down Americans and strip them down to their tribal cores. Pick your pill, that’s their assignment for people.
Anyone who thinks it through and realizes zero lawyers have submitted a shred of valid evidence in court in support of systemic voting fraud claims (as opposed to fraud by one individual person) knows full well the STS campaign is all lies and hot air.
The supporters of STS say “you cannot disprove my claims” as if their lack of evidence with confident bluster means anything real.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
There’s been evidence submitted. I’m not sure what you mean by valid evidence. Whether or not evidence is convincing is up to a judge and/or jury to decide.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Also include an attack on education as a long term plan. Didnt fla go as far as to pass a law so vets could teach without credentials.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  Rbm
Yep. The credentialed teachers are doing a fantastic job!
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt3
Sure there are some crappy teachers out there. Education starts at home. There are some crappy parents out there. Also the are parents working two jobs etc and are doing the best they can.
Republicans want to shoot down public pre k a while back. Then complain about not having skilled labor force/ higher crime rate / and parents not being able to work because daycare cost more than they would make.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  Rbm
Check how public pre K (head start) has done. Did it improve anything? I’m pretty sure that it hasn’t made a material difference in educational outcomes. Rather than good intentions, let’s focus on results. I would be for trying different approaches and then measuring success. Just adding more school and more money doesn’t mean improved results.
I see high school and college grads that are not able to do 4th grade math. Also that are barely literate. Years and cost of education didn’t do much.
GruesomeHarvest
GruesomeHarvest
1 year ago
Anti-intellectual? Really? Did you take a gander at our current President and Vice President? They are the poster children for anti-intellectualism!

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