Six Reasons Biden-Klobuchar Would be a Strong Presidential Ticket

Who can beat Trump? I believe nearly any Democratic candidate other than lightning rods like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, or Hillary Clinton.

This issue came up in a Tweet today by Dilbert creator Scott Adams.

Of course this was followed up by the inevitable

Many would suggest the same about Trump. But even if it was true about Biden, it could be overlooked easily if people had any degree of faith in his VP.

If Biden wins the nomination, his team will figure this out, even if he cannot.

Bernie Sanders?

Bernie Sanders has huge issues. He is an admitted Socialist, but he would appeal to the millennials and anyone staunchly anti-war.

The lead images is from How Warren and Klobuchar are navigating sexism.

Klobuchar Jumps in New Hampshire Poll

Navigating Sexism

The lead images is from How Warren and Klobuchar are Navigating Sexism.

I don’t know if that latest poll is accurate, but Warren gave her a big boost in the debate while making a fool out of herself with a lie about Sanders.

Warren’s Debate Fiasco

For discussion, please see NeverWarren Trends to Top Spot After Her Enormous Debate Fiasco

Six Reasons for Klobuchar

  1. She is not a lightning rod nor has she offended anyone that I am aware of.
  2. She would appeal to many of those wanting a women on the ticket.
  3. She was against most of the nonsense in Iraq although she did support a boondoggle in Libya.
  4. She is a good debater.
  5. Like Biden, she is a moderate. If Democrats want to beat Trump, their best chance is a moderate ticket that independents can support.
  6. Her youth counteracts Biden’s age.

One Term Issues

Biden is up there in years, but so are Trump, Sanders, Bloomberg, and Warren.

The advantage for someone like Klobuchar is Biden would be a one-term president for sure.

And if you think about the setup clearly, it is also an advantage for voters who would otherwise be hesitant to back Biden.

I will list the 8 reasons I expect Trump to lose in a following post.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Mike2112
Mike2112
4 years ago

There’s only one flaw with this assessment: it doesnt explain how you get the Millenial dems to forget that Bernie the Progressive was robbed of the nomination in 2016. Perhaps the DNC is underestimating how thoroughly and effectively their friends in Academia have been Brainwashing their young voters. The young Progs arent going to take it lightly if Warren or Bernie or Yang isnt the nominee.

I dont see how the Dem party can last going fwd trying to be the party of ppl who vote for the Bidens, Pelosi’s, Feinsteins and the ppl who wante Bernie, Warren etc. I expect the dem party to eventually splinter off a more Progressive party.

Sleemo
Sleemo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike2112

Said the same thing to my Bernie-loving daughter a few days ago. Time for a new party.

SHOfan
SHOfan
4 years ago

Biden is on video boasting about how he used $1 billion in gov’t aid to extort the President of the Ukraine. I would think the Republicans would use it.
Surprised they haven’t already.
Makes him look bad, and it is exactly what they have accused Trump of.

blacklisted
blacklisted
4 years ago

Trump will win with half his brain tied behind his back.

Wmjack50
Wmjack50
4 years ago

democrat politicians are soon to be out of work read the book Profiles in Corruption

RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago

Zero Hedge headline: Not Just Hunter: Widespread Biden Family Profiteering Exposed

Mike2112
Mike2112
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ

Many centrist dems dont care. The Prog wing however is not as forgiving. Just like the sex. harassment issue where the older centrist voters considered themselves “pro-women” while looking past Bill Clinton’s mistreatment of women whereas the young liberal feminists would not and do not make such exceptions.

abend237-04
abend237-04
4 years ago

Biden was by no means smart when he had a brain. Now, he’s just pitiful. No way he makes it through the convention. I see Hillary summoned in the 11th hour to run again…and lose.

HAL9000
HAL9000
4 years ago

Klobuchar was going full-on warmachine in the last debate, while Biden’s neurons were disintegrating before our eyes. How were these two bozos on stage while someone like Yang wasn’t? Really?

Bernie at least has good plans. Being assimilated is a human right. link to hikinginthelight.us

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago

Biden’s candidacy is a sham. He’s there to give the Lawfare crowd a peg to hang impeachment on, especially since apparently Ukraine operatives were messed up in some DNC stuff, so there’s more than the Burisma Bribery Boondoggle.

Biden won’t last as a lead candidate. He’s just too old and scatter-mouth.

It’s not about age, it’s about wattage. Like him or hate him, Trump has wattage, both in media and also in person. Klobuchar is a mouse. No presence.

Looking forward to reading Mish’s reasons for Trump to lose. Personally, I think he either won’t run for some legal reason, or he’ll win big. Trump is polarising. Those who hate him – mainly in Dem political spheres and those who follow their media – hate him a lot and nearly all of them have TDS, i.e. are deranged about it (witness the current Articles on the one hand and the Schiff-Nadler-Pelosi-Schumer rhetoric on the other – absurd and insane, aka: DERANGED!!)

I think Trump is going to hit various players in the Lawfare-Intel-Media-Congressional networks against him, and hit them hard. I think he’s going to win big with ethnic minorities and independents if impeachment is handled like Kavanaugh, which looks like the play they are making with the Parnas Reality TV Episode.

So because he is polarizing, if he manages to hit the other guys hard, many of them will deflate and not show up to vote, whereas his backers will be more energised. At his most recent 20,000+ rally, half the attendees were Democrats or Independents or had never voted in decades. That is a clue…

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

Burisma is yesterday’s debunked propaganda BS pushed by the Russians. I used to have respect for your posts BA. Even when we disagreed I always thought you were rational and made good arguments. No more. Republicans and conservatives can disagree with democrats, and loath socialists as I do, but, Trump is a proven criminal and drug addict that is losing it, and impeachment/removal or not at least he will blow out his last working brain cell probably before November with his drug addictions. I am going to go on record and say that anyone still supporting Trump after all we have come to know about his crime spree are at least as much traitor to the USA as Trump himself. And do not misunderstand me, Trump IS the end of the USA as a functional nation, the best we can hope for now is a dystopian future. So, on some levels maybe the final war would be better, a quick flash and it is all over. That would be better than life under the criminal Trump and the toadies that follow him.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

The TDS is strong in this one.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

You bet your ass it is, just about as strong as the Obama dysfunction was in your party and which is alive and well I might add. Anyone who looks at Trump and still supports him is a traitor and a deeply dishonest person.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

I am not a Republican and never voted for McCain or Romney.

You are a TDS poster child.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

All I can say is whatever asshole. You make no cogent arguments and just sit on your ass calling names, so back at you turd.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Sounds like you are one who refuses to read articles that you disagree with, instead just dumping your streams of your mostly meaningless conscience on us.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Thanks for clearing me up on that. I didn’t realise that when Biden said on national TV that he forced the Ukrainians to fire a prosecutor investigating Burisma which, amongst other things, was paying his son over $50G’s a year shortly after he was fired from the military for drug problems and had no background in the oil and gas industry, that this was doctored video, and that probably – even though he appeared to say it in that clip – of course he never pressured them by threatening to withhold a billion in aid – somewhat more than Trump merely delayed for a few weeks before paying well within the stipulated deadline.

I mean: Wow! Those Russians are getting really good at doctoring video tapes and foisting on them on innocent, unsuspecting American cable news outlets!! I assure you I have no ill intent. I just didn’t know they were that sophisticated. I wonder: where do you get your information on that? Would love to learn more.

That said, I do think it was a bit silly of those Russian agents to use the moniker ‘Fancy Bear’ (?) when tapping into the DNC servers (copies of which are rumored to be in the Ukraine too, either because the Ukrainians – no doubt under Russian control – want them, or some scurrilous traitorous Trump supporting types suspect that the US agencies who in fact hacked into everything and were surveilling Trump’s campaign wanted those copies outside US jurisdiction so they couldn’t be subpoena’d.)

Frankly, I don’t believe any of those stories. Why? Because they are in print, so most likely they are lies. (My general rule of thumb when reading anything to do with Science, News or Politics!)

I do hope though, Herkles, that you are not serious about all the unpleasant stuff you said. It sounds like you are losing your sense of humor about all this.

Never a good idea, imo.

Da Baron.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

I think Trump will win big with his usual constituency – the dumb shits who make up about 40% of all voters.

“Think of how dumb the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.”
— George Carlin

Aaaal
Aaaal
4 years ago

Mish is way off on this one.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Aaaal

Not really, if the democrats nominate a “progressive” socialist they lose, badly. And, the top three contenders are all in their 70’s, and so their VP choice will have an impact, I know I will NOT vote for Biden if he has a Harris or other “progressive” as running mate. I am not going to tolerate a VP pick that is on record as supporting far left crackbrain ideas like slave reparations, or the wildly panicky man made global warming alarmist spending of trillions to fix something that will still be broken after the money is all gone.

Mish is dead right about two things, one is the FACT that the vast majority of American democrats are indeed centrists, the far left can only play spoiler again as Sanders did in 2016, that turd works for Putin. I am a lifelong dyed in the wool liberal democrat that would only vote for a republican if the democrat is so damned bad I think he will do irreparable harm.

I voted for McCain in ’08 because I believed Obama was simply not qualified, that his nomination was entirely owing to his race. I thought the potential for doing irreparable harm was just too much. I did vote for Obama in ’12 because he rose above the accusation of a race based president and proved his worth.

I voted for Reagan in ’80 because I knew Carter was a failed president and we could not survive another four years of his horrible non leadership. He was not a bad man, would have voted for him to be grandfather of the year, but not president because he cared about human rights in Johannesburg and Buenos Aires, but not in my home town, or whether or not we had jobs.

I am able to be loyal to my party and yet even more loyal to my nation and that is a damned sight more than I can say for most of the posters here at Money Maven. You damned well know that a second term for the criminal Trump will destroy America, yet you do not care.

If my party nominates a socialist “progressive” and I seriously cannot vote for the criminal Trump, it will be the first time in my 60+ years I just will not vote. And it will hurt me to the core because I view voting as a civic duty. But, I cannot choose between a Sanders and a Trump, the devastation to my nation would just be incalculable, total even.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how wrong that opinion may be!

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Yes Jojo, right back at you.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

” I am not going to tolerate a VP pick that is on record as supporting far left crackbrain ideas like slave reparations, or the wildly panicky man made global warming alarmist spending of trillions to fix something that will still be broken after the money is all gone.”

You might want to read and listen to this interview!

Why climate change means new risks for U.S. financial markets
Jan 17, 2020
link to pbs.org

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

You can post thousands of blatherskite articles about man made global warming and they will all still be bullshit. And I will not go into the reasons why I think this other than to say that you also cannot post a single proof of anthropogenic climate change aside from what a lot of other people think. I took meteorology in college, did you?

I do however say as I always have, that of course man does affect his environment, he always has as part of nature and now that we need to keep close to 8 billion people alive and growing because breeders cannot keep it in their pants, we always will.

The bullshit claims that the planet has warmed by 1.5* and that spells the end of the ecosphere are just hogwash. Maybe it has warmed by 1.5* but that is not the hogwash, the part about that being the end of the world that requires trillions and TRILLIONS in spending in order to stop it is the hogwash part, and for the simple reason that you can spend $75 trillion and you still will not have stopped it, because you are addressing the wrong problems.

Not to say the ecosphere is not dying, it is. But not because of the statistically irrelevent rise in cO2 in the atmosphere. Poisons yes, garbage in the sea YES! Overfishing to make cat food and fertilizer YES! But not CO2.

Of course I am the first to admit that climate is not science anymore, it is religion, and so any suggestion by me that you are asking the wrong questions and coming up with the wrong answers is going to see me tarred and feathered with the accusation of blasphemy. Much as I would like to debate this with an intelligent person I simply do not care what names you call. Neener Neener you are too.

In fact, the planet is dying, that is certain. But it is not because of carbon dioxide and that also is proven. So all the solutions to carbon “pollution” will not save the world, they will only manage to stop all industry and prosperity, and without the markets of scale that make industry work you will live to see half the people on this planet die. Starvation, disease, poverty. The only way you can keep 8 billion people alive is with food, medicine, and money, and you cannot do that without petrochemicals, and you cannot have petrochemicals at an economic price withoiut a petrolem based market of scale economy.

Yes, technology will eventually over come the hurdles of keeping 8 billion people alive without oil, but, that is at LEAST 50 years off and by then it will be at least 11 billion people.

Are you starting to see where the real problem is? You can shoot ropes of cum and not make a baby, but if you make a baby while pleasuring yourself you are condemning the planet and species to a horrible death. We have to get back to 2 or 3 billion people and let nature be nature. You straight people have bred the planet into a death spiral. And you scream about stopping it but then blame minimal levels of CO2 for the problem, the problem is not CO2, it is you and your demands to breed endlessly past the carrying capacity of the planet.

Mike2112
Mike2112
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

I’m not a Sanders fan but the “works for Putin” remark is baseless nonsense. Bernie likely prefers the old Soviet Union over the crony capitalist country that Russia is today. If Putin favors Bernie its only because he knows he’ll weaken America economically, pile on even more debt, and shy away from any military intervention.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago

Jan. 17, 2020, at 5:58 AM
Trump May Be Even More Unpopular Than His Approval Rating Shows

Polls have consistently shown that President Trump is pretty unpopular, with only about 42 percent of the American public approving of the job he is doing as president. These numbers are much lower than what one might expect given the bustling economy.

But does the standard presidential approval question actually capture what voters think of Trump’s job performance? There are several reasons it might not tell the full story. For one, in this hyper-partisan era, presidential approval numbers have become increasingly polarized and don’t move around all that much, so they may now say more about which “side” people are on (pro-Trump or anti-Trump, Republican or Democrat) than voters’ actual evaluation of how the president is doing.

….
link to fivethirtyeight.com

baconbacon
baconbacon
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Totally meaningless methodology as they don’t have (or don’t include) the data for other sitting presidents. Elections are against active politicians not against a loose collection of historical comps, which is what makes most of these analysis worth little. Trump is going to run against a D who likely has little broad popular support as none of their candidates currently have.

Jackula
Jackula
4 years ago

I’m thinking recession by this summer. This will really derail Trump’s re-election unless the Dems really f*ck up which is likely. Doubtfull the DNC will do a much better job of handling Bernie which means the “progessive” voters will stay home. Also a lot of progressive and swing voters are not that upset at Trump to vote anyone but Trump except a big chunk of the LatinX voters.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jackula

The stay at home Sanders borg was always in the mix just like 2016, but note that even without them we still won the popular vote and this time voters have 4 years of the deeply corrupt Trump administration to judge him by. The GOP is famous for getting it’s voters to the polls, their participation is much higher than democrats or independents, but, that means about 63 million is the max they can turn out, and since 2016 there are at least another 6.5 million new voting age people, mostly younger because they are new voters, while the GOP has lost voters to old age and death. Do not underestimate the demographic shift in four years. The only way the democrats can lose the 2020 election is by nominating Sanders, or another “progressive.”

Also, the economy is already not doing well, the US equity market is NOT the economy. The vast and towering asset gap between the bottom and top has gotten much worse in four years where it is an actual national emergency no matter how the financial media ignores it.

Yes house prices have risen, but for every dollar of equity homeowners get housing affordability has dropped. Most Americans are locked out of the wealth generating avenues of stock ownership that is so firehosed with invented money from the Fed, as well as the slower accumulation of wealth from owning a house. You are likely right that we will be in recession by summer, in fact we may already be in one, by some metrics at least. But, the Fed is going to go on claiming all is well, while they prop up the rich and pour more QE into the banks. At this point nobody with a long-term memory longer than a goldfish and who does the shopping for their households believes the CPI numbers.

The economy is like a cancer patient in stage four, looks good on the outside maybe, but weeks away from terminal collapse, and stuffed full of pain meds to get through the day.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago

I’d be happy if Sanders could implement 50% of what he says he wants to do, but with Congress owned by our corporate oligarchy, it is unlikely that Sanders would get much past Congress. And it will take years to clean up the mess Trump has made. So I doubt anyone should be worrying about Sanders somehow imposingly “socialism” on the USA! This is a good article on Sanders that people here should read. Perhaps you will reconsider your superficial opinion of Sanders, Mish? Better yet, stop watching Fox news!

Bernie Sanders can unify Democrats and beat Trump in 2020
By Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias matt@vox.com
Jan 7, 2020, 8:00am EST

The case for Bernie Sanders is that he is the unity candidate.

The Vermont senator is unique in combining an authentic, values-driven political philosophy with a surprisingly pragmatic, veteran-legislator approach to getting things done. This pairing makes him the enthusiastic favorite of non-Republicans who don’t necessarily love the Democratic Party, without genuinely threatening what’s important to partisan Democrats. If he can pull the party together, it would set him up to be the strongest of the frontrunners to challenge President Donald Trump.

….
link to vox.com

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Herkie <———- Lifelong democrat who never skips voting and will never cast a ballot for Sanders, I mean he is literally the last person on the planet I would vote for. I would vote for Sarah Palin first and if you knew my disrespect for her intellect and her honesty you would get some idea of just how NOT HAPPENING my vote for Sanders really is.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Sounds like you have SDS – Sanders Derangement Syndrome!

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

You and SleemG are both total morons. If that is the best you can do you really should have no say in what happens next. By all means, call people names and attack them rather than post a cogent argument, but then that is what we expect from people that cannot even read or write in cursive.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

You are delusional if you think your postings are cogent. But hey, Mish welcomes all types.

SleemoG
SleemoG
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Nah, he’s just a Christian like 90% of voters.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

LOL to both of you, I despise any who think Sanders and his socialism is the answer, they less than worth my time to bother with. And no, SleemG, you are fucked up if you think I ascribe any creedence to superstitions. I am in fact a well educated and secular individual that thinks you all have it ass backwards. You want to fix that which is either not broken or to get revenge on others that had nothing to do with your pathetic lives. You want change without even identifying what must change. You will always come up with a wrong answer and make things worse. My advice to you is get another tat and relax, if that does not work eat a Tide pod and let the rest of the world do it’s best, and we can’t do that with you bitching every day. I know you will not take my advice so welcome to the world YOU are creating. It is your turn on stage and wow can you fuck it up even more than it is? Of course.

Sleemo
Sleemo
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Oh, and good luck with that aneurism.

Sleemo
Sleemo
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Herkie, I already beat you to the punch. I haven’t voted since 2003, so I have no say in what happens next. I’m happy to try to survive in any world you and your voting brethren see fit. Which of course will be a Christian world, whether you like it or not.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago

It’s clear now why Pelosi held off sending the impeachment articles to the Senate for so long. She understands how the process works. By waiting as long as she did, she winds up pinning Warren and Sanders in the Senate chambers as the race to the Iowa caucuses gets closer, thus allowing Biden (her logical, middle-of-the-road, safe choice) time to barnstorm Iowa alone (I don’t give any credence to Buttigieg chances at winning Iowa or getting the Dem nomination).

Pelosi is playing 5-D chess!

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

I agree and sadly also with the part about Mayor Pete, I do think he would make a fine president, I have even donated to his campaign. But, I also think that when it comes right down to it the average straight male is too chickenshit to vote for a gay man in most states. One wonders what they fear. Possibly there are a lot more closet cases out there that are so deeply scared of anything gay they will not even vote for a gay man even if it is our last chance to save the country from dying. Because to probable nominees in both parties are going to end the USA once and for all, at BEST we will break apart the way the Soviet Union did, at worst, well no point speculating about the worst case, because none of us will survive it anyway.

Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago

“Bernie Sanders has huge issues. He is an admitted Socialist, but he would appeal to the millennials and anyone staunchly anti-war.”

Apparently Mish has issues also – unaware of the difference between being a “socialist” and a “democratic socialist”. Here, let me help you and others at a similar loss:

Democratic socialism is a political philosophy that advocates for political democracy alongside a socially owned economy,[1] with a particular emphasis on workers’ self-management and democratic control of economic institutions within market socialism, or some form of a decentralised planned socialist economy.[2] Democratic socialists argue that capitalism is inherently incompatible with the values of freedom, equality and solidarity and that these ideals can only be achieved through the realisation of a socialist society.[3] Although most democratic socialists seek a gradual transition to socialism,[4] democratic socialism can support either revolutionary or reformist politics as means to establish socialism.[3] As a term, democratic socialism was popularised by social democrats who were opposed to the authoritarian development of socialism in Russia and elsewhere during the 20th century.[5][6]

Phantastic
Phantastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Way too much info for anyone who subscribes to the juvenile theory of “libertarianism.”

RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Apparently Mish has issues also – unaware of the difference between being a “socialist” and a “democratic socialist”.

There is none.

SleemoG
SleemoG
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Once Bernie resolves that Jesus problem he has, the “socialist” thing may become relevant.

wootendw
wootendw
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Socialism is morally wrong even if 99% of the people vote for it. Socialism doesn’t recognize a person’s right to his own property, even if it was created through productive activities of the owner as most property is acquired in capitalist society – which the US once was, but no longer is.

No one in reason believes that two people should be able to vote to kill on person. Why should majority be able to vote to steal from a minority.

WildBull
WildBull
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Hugo Chavez was elected. Hitler was elected. Economics is the single strongest social force. Put it in the hands of a small cabal of “democratic socialist” central planners and you get a authoritarian state, no matte how the bastards get to power. Socialism at its core is theft from the productive. There is no getting past it. If I mug people in the street and take their money, I go to jail. If I extort money from businesses through a protection racket, I go to jail. If I get the government to do it for me, that’s socialism.

Mike2112
Mike2112
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

How does democratic Socialism differ from Hugo Chavez’s Bolivarian Socialism? What mistakes did Hugo make that Bernie would not make?

Stuki
Stuki
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Mises already dealt with the Middle of the Road delusion, at least in economic terms, eons ago.

As for the currently fashionable (amongst the gullible uber literate crowd) delusion that anything becomes magically wonderful just by slapping “democratic” in front of it….. No. It didn’t really work out for the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea either. Dumb stuff for dumb people never really does, no matter how it is branded.

Greggg
Greggg
4 years ago

Joe Biden? Why is he even a thing?

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Greggg

Greggg, “Joe Biden? Why is he even a thing?”

He won’t be for much longer no matter what happens November of 2020. Same for Sanders, even more so really, especially since he had a heart attack just a few months ago, my bet is one or both will not even make it till election day, campaigning for president is extremely stressful.

Capn_Renault
Capn_Renault
4 years ago

The weakest link on a Biden-Klobuchar ticket would be Biden. After seeing him exploit his public office for (his druggie son’s) personal gain, it says a lot about the corruption of the DNC cabal that he is still under consideration.

The impeachment trial (if one happens) will not be kind to Obama or Biden, and it won’t change anyone’s opinion pro/con about Trump. Trump isn’t running for the DNC nomination, he will be running in the general election. Those who hate him now still will afterward, those who like him now will not be persuaded by a rigged partisan witch hunt.

Klobuchar would have to weight the benefit of added name recognition – setting herself up for a better chance in 2024… versus having her name tied to that of a crook.

If she is everything Mish says, Klobuchar might be better off making a really good speech (like Reagan did at the RNC convention in 1976) to set herself up for 2024. Hitching her name to a crook would only hurt her

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Capn_Renault

Thanks for the reminder, buy tinfoil futures Monday.

wootendw
wootendw
4 years ago

Biden called for freeze on spending, including SS. That might not matter against Trump but it won’t help him get the nomination.
link to politico.com

shred1
shred1
4 years ago

Crony corporates control both parties. Grow up, Mish.

wootendw
wootendw
4 years ago

I doubt Biden will win the nomination, especially since that video showed up of him denouncing fellow Dems for not supporting Bush 43 (whom he praised) during Iraq 2. He also has a little girl problem as seen in numerous videos. And his involvement in Ukraine is despicable.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  wootendw

HIS involvement in the Ukraine is despicable? Since when do the GOP care about criminal activities in Ukraine? Oh right, only when you claim it is a democrat doing it. How your neck must hurt from carrying those blinders all day every day.

wootendw
wootendw
4 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

I am sure that both parties have members who participated in despicable actions in Ukraine including the hiring Maidan snipers to shoot demonstrators on both sides in streets of Kiev (in 2014) in order to oust Ukraine’s elected president and install a US govt puppet. 10s of thousands were killed in the ensuing violence of the regime-change operation.

But Obama was president and his Assist. Sec of State for European Affairs at the time (Victoria Nuland) was caught on tape talking about the coming coup (timed to occur while Putin was hosting the Socchi Olympics).

Like all US govt regime-changes ops, there are parties connected to US officials that stand to gain financially from resulting destruction and bloodshed. In the case of Ukraine, the principal beneficiary of that was Hunter Biden.

Mike2112
Mike2112
4 years ago
Reply to  wootendw

And after we support the ouster of the old guy our friends in DC begin to get hired for BoD positions of Burisma energy. Why? because the owner of Burisma energy, Mikhail Zolochensky, was Minister of Ecology under the old regime. What does the BUreau of Ecology in the Ukraine do? They issue drilling permits! How nice to own an energy company AND be in charge of issuing drilling permits! After the ouster our Ambassador to the Ukraine, John Pyatt (Obama’s Ambassador. Remember, Obama is still prez at this time) speaks out in favor of investigating Zolochensky and Burisma. 3 weeks after Burisma;s offices are raided they send an email to Underscretary Catherine Novelli at the State Dept asking for a meeting with regards to this investigation and they mention that they employ Americans, like Hunter Biden.

““Per our conversation, Karen Tramontano of Blue Star Strategies requested a meeting to discuss with U/S Novelli USG remarks alleging Burisma (Ukrainian energy company) of corruption,” a Feb. 24, 2016, email between State officials read. “She noted that two high profile U.S. citizens are affiliated with the company (including Hunter Biden as a board member).”

In addition to Hunter Biden an American named Joseph Black was also on the BoD. Black worled on Mitt Romney’s campaign and was a Director in the CIA.

It looks like our supporting the coup in the Ukraine turned out to be very profitable for some DC Insiders.

kt44
kt44
4 years ago

Joe Biden does not have any campaign infrastructure setup after South Carolina. In fact, on his website, you can’t even apply to positions beyond the first 4 primaries. He has absolutely no one in the super Tuesday states, and that’s less than 90 days away. I’m not sure he is actually running.

ottertail
ottertail
4 years ago

Hey Mish, do you know anyone in MN? My understanding is that the people who work for Amy can’t stand her. I’m not talking one or two, either.

Schaap60
Schaap60
4 years ago
Reply to  ottertail

My extended family lives in MN and that’s my (their) understanding too. She has offended lots of people and that will become apparent as she gets more scrutiny.

footwedge
footwedge
4 years ago
Reply to  ottertail

I’m from MN as well. She was an aggressive district attorney and definitely pissed off certain segment of the population. It would be foolish, however, to put too much stock in the stories about how mean she is too staff – she is demanding and that’s a different thing altogether, and most staff understand that and have stayed with her. She has been a good if not flashy senator with good constituent service. Oh yeah and she beat a well known and well funded Republican female candidate like a rented mule in 2018. All that said I’m not sure I think she would make a good VP candidate but who knows.

Latkes
Latkes
4 years ago

Sexism is an unword. Bullshit.

lol
lol
4 years ago

Might be 1st election (ever)where no shows up at poles! If there is an “election”,it will shatter the low voter turn out record when you consider the pathetic,abysmal array of candidates,Trump and incompetent pretender in the mold of Barak Obama,or 100 year JB who’s always got his hand out and actually carries a POS terminal in his pocket to handle the bribes.After Obama I said the bar could not possibly be set any lower,then Trump proved me wrong,after Trump I said this has to be rock bottom…..

shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
Reply to  lol

Virginia is expecting 90% turnout.

Greggg
Greggg
4 years ago
Reply to  lol

So far I only have 3 votes I will be casting. 2 against 2 tax proposals and one for State Representative. 99.999% probably that I will not cast a vote for President/VP.

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