State of Emergency in New York, More Die in USA

Governor Cuomo Declares State of Emergency

The weekend is not off to a great start as Two Coronavirus Deaths in Florida; New York Declares Emergency.

The coronavirus epidemic continued to escalate globally into the weekend, with Florida reporting the first two deaths on the U.S. East Coast, and New York state declaring a state of emergency as officials announced a jump in new cases, particularly a cluster tied to one patient in Westchester County.

The two people who died in Florida had recently traveled abroad, according to the state’s Department of Health. One death was of a patient previously announced in Santa Rosa County, and the other was a new case, a person in their late 70s in Lee County. Their deaths raised the number of fatalities in the U.S. to at least 16.

Florida health authorities also announced two additional cases, bringing the total number of infections in the state to 13. Seven are Florida residents, five are repatriated and one is a non-Florida resident, according to health authorities. Overall cases in the U.S. have shot to 340, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University, as testing continues to expand.

In an indication of just how the virus spreads—and how hard it is to contain-—in New York, there are an additional 23 cases in Westchester County, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. All the new cases are connected to a 50-year-old lawyer from New Rochelle, officials said. About 1,000 people were quarantined earlier this week due to the lawyer’s case.

There are also a handful of cases in Rockland, Saratoga and Nassau counties, as well as New York City, which now has 11 confirmed cases.

Costs Waived

That does not sound legal to me. But if you make the test free, do you really think testing will expand?

If followed, costs will rise for everything else to make up for it.

These people cannot think.

We need to use the cheap test that China developed, not the error prone, costly test developed by the CDC.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago

Mish, we also had a declared state of emergency in Oregon at the same time as New York, two new cases in Jackson County in the south of the state were found (my county) Partly they do it for access to the new $8.4 billion in federal funding appropriated for the fight but also in this state the constitution allows the governor wider latitude to operate without silly things like quorums or majorities in the legislature. It gives her direct access to National Guard and several other options that sidestep normal democratic requirements written into the constitution.

And Kate Brown is a “progressive” who just cannot say no to a declared emergency. This is like her third one. She can’t get her (and speaker of the house Tina Kotek, a far left radical lesbian Sanders borg) agenda done via normal means because they are just far too far to the left, like her cap and trade carbon tax that would gut the Oregon economy and cost Oregonians a doubling in gasoline prices as well as a doubling of utility bills. They passed a law that forced landlords to accept HUD section 8 vouchers and the result was rents doubled in 5 years, while vacancy rates plummited from 5.6% to under 1%. So they declared a housing emergency over that and introduced the nation’s first statewide rent control that is a really a true disaster. And housing is in even shorter supply so they are trying to pass another law that will set aside all local zoning for single family homes so the governor can force builders to build low income multifamily rental housing within all new single family developments. Because that is just what we all want next door to our new $500,000 house, a mini welfare project.

I am a democrat with the values of a democrat, but these progressives are NOT democrats and can only manage to bring their utopian ideas to completion using coercive tactics outside the normal rule of law. That is why I could never vote for Sanders or any other “progressive.”

Matt3
Matt3
4 years ago

What a farce!
Chicken little has nothing on this site.
We will all day eventually of something. You’re more likely to die in a car accident.

Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago

The biggest question is why we can’t learn from other countries. We know what China did, and it appears to have been effective, though it destroyed their economy. We know what Korea did, and it seems to be effective as well, and we are seeing the growth of cases there slowing. Has any country had success containing coronavirus by telling people “it’s just the flu, so don’t worry, just do what you normally do”, or “just wash your hands, and you will be fine”?

The US approach most reminds me of the Wuhan approach, where they told everyone everything was fine, and to show how safe it was, they hosted an outdoor buffet for 40,000 families. Sure. It’s no big deal. It’s just the flu. Most people will recover, though a few may die. All true, depending on how you define “few”. We won’t hold any outdoor buffets, but March Madness anyone?

tokidoki
tokidoki
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

You can’t learn from anyone as long as the narrative remains “The US is the best country on earth”. Anyone who’s ever traveled or lived in one of the first world countries can tell you that’s not true, but for anyone else it’s “USA, USA, USA”

The US has poverty? It’s the best on earth. Our homeless people, also the best homeless people on earth. Right wingers will argue till their face is blue that our health system is the best and its prices justified because some doctor somewhere can extend the life expectancy of a person suffering some rare cancer for a couple more months.

Phantastic
Phantastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Because you have the worst administration in the history of the US right now.

Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago

According to Fox News, it’s really no different than the flu. Most recover, and a few die. No big deal. For unknown reasons, however, they neglect to mention that .03% of people who had the flu this year died, while 3% of the people with SARS-COV2 have died. They also neglect to mention that .2% of people with the flu need to be hospitalized, while 15% of people with SARS-COV2 require hospitalization.

I did learn one good thing in my research today, though. Apparently the US does have some preparations for a pandemic flu. Apparently there are 4,000 or so mechanical ventilators in a warehouse somewhere, as a part of a strategic reserve. Those will come in handy, and save some lives, but will turn out to be a drop in a bucket.

Over the last three days the US case number is rising at 36% a day.
At that rate:
March 31: 644,000 cases in the US; 97,000 hospitalized, 32,000 critical, 6-20,000 dead, catching up with the flu, and killing in one month what the regular flu has taken 6 months to kill.
April 15: 65m cases, and the rest you don’t want to know

I do predict that the rate of new cases will drop to 25%, which will slow things by a couple weeks. Even then, I predict that within two weeks we stop hearing “It’s pretty much like the flu” because the hospitals will be overwhelmed with cases.

Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Just to be clear, I don’t expect us to get to 65m infected that fast. I think (hope) that within a couple of weeks, people will realize that it definitely is worse than the flu, and then we will see some real attempts to bring it under control. I don’t expect that, however, until there are at least 500 cases in ICUs, and right now there are only 8.

Jackula
Jackula
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Yeah, when the elites can’t get access to their hospitals we’ll see some draconian quarantines to slow the spread…

JimmyScot
JimmyScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Agree. A lot of delusion around presently.

Not just delusion. Selfishness. People saying things like “I am going to live my life as before, it’s only affecting old people and the government doesn’t have the right to control what I do”.

I’m almost 50 so probably relatively safe (although I am asthmatic) but I notice a clear generational difference in what people are preparing for and seeing. Over 40s are worried – maybe not about the virus, but about the economic impact.

The opposite can be seen in my stepdaughter, in her 20s. She’s not going to change anything, including booking a very expensive holiday that she will not get to take. She doesn’t intend to follow any quarantine rules and will go where she wants and when she wants.

Only she won’t, because she’s about to discover that working for a small realtor owned broker that specialises in new homes mortgage finance is pretty close to ground zero in economic terms.

Of course she is young enough to financially recover. For many of us that is not true.

Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago

The test we need is the one S. Korea has. You drive up in your car, give them your information, and a sample, and 40 minutes later you have an answer. You never even get out of your car.

DeeDee3
DeeDee3
4 years ago

Mish they aren’t relying on CDC they have another vendor

tokidoki
tokidoki
4 years ago

My prediction? Trump and Xi will jointly win the Nobel Peace Prize later this year.

Like Xi, Trump will declare “war” against the coronavirus. He will employ all sorts of methods including further corporate tax cuts, massive build up in military contracts to bail out Boeing, jawboning the stock market, hassling the Fed every second to introduce negative rates, lifting the trade tariffs (the ones for medical gears have been lifted), and finally ….. imposing tariffs on the “coronavirus”.

The OK Boomers might not make it through this, but some will.

Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

About 0 chance
Trump is despised internationally.

Trump could personally find a cure and he would win no awards.

Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Probably had the cure weeks ago, but knew how ungrateful we’d be, so he just kept it.

tokidoki
tokidoki
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish

I was trying to be sarcastic. Perhaps someone can tell me if there’s a sarcasm tag.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

WHAT????? Something a gen X’er does not know?

CluelessMish
CluelessMish
4 years ago

Once again Mish it putting out click bait and not explaining that it only means the governor can speed state agency assistance to communities in need. It does not mean anything will be shut down. You can read more at:
link to planetprinceton.com

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat
4 years ago

Did someone say something good about China? 🙂

tokidoki
tokidoki
4 years ago
Reply to  Curious-Cat

I already said it before. The Chinese now look very competent. It does not matter if they continue to lie about the number, because the fact of the matter is they now have the system, the big data, etc to control the propagation of the virus in a more controlled manner. The USSA …..

JimmyScot
JimmyScot
4 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

Are they lying about numbers? Add up Italy, Iran, South Korea. Go back to that point in time for China.cases versus deaths not all that dissimilar.

MiTurn
MiTurn
4 years ago

I suspect that a declaration of emergency must open up access to federal dollars. But I don’t know…

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  MiTurn

That is true, a state declaring an emergency does open up federal dollars and the congress just appropriated 8 billion of them to fight the virus. But, I know my state declared an emergency today as did New York, and our constitution allows a lot of latitude for governance to pass without the normal majority or supermajority requirements for most actions the governor takes, the GOP here is the minority and they have repeatedly fled Salem in order to deny democrats a quorum for senate votes. This emergency will allow democrats to pass bills without a quorum. It also allows the governor to use the Oregon National Guard as if she were president giving orders to the DoD. She can block highways with them, in fact in a declared emergency there really are no limits to her power to order them, except that right now so many are in Kosovo, Eritrea, and Djiabouti.

Stuki
Stuki
4 years ago

“We need to use the cheap test that China developed, not the error prone, costly test developed by the CDC.”

We should employ them all. And tag each reported result with which test was used, who administered it, the reason it was performed, and other possibly relevant information.

There are plenty of statistical methods available to extract relevant information from test and testing related skew and noise. Just let it rip, make as much data as possible public while trying to standardize reporting as much as possible, and see what patterns can be gleaned from it.

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago

If NY is in a state of emergency, does that mean the subways will stop running, bridges between NY/NJ close, and interstate highways close too? Oh and lets no forget it’s not a real emergency if Wall Street is open for business. I smell a politician who doesn’t want a crisis to got to waste.

Stuki
Stuki
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

I suspect there are “legal” breakers tripped by a “state of emergency” declaration, such that those performing tests can expect to be reimbursed by insurers, people quarantined or self quarantining on doctors’ advice can expect to not get fired (and possibly get paid), doctors forced to make decisions under extreme time and resource pressure won’t be hounded to death by ambulance chasers in the aftermath etc.

To the extent it transfers de facto decision making power from leeches, middle men and profiteers to doctors, it’s probably a good thing.

MiTurn
MiTurn
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

Here’s another take on a declaration of emergency.

Anda
Anda
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

In Spain they have started the first quarantines/home confinement/lockdown ( the previous hotel ones don’t count because they were tourists etc. :/ ). So far it is parts of a town, really a number of homes. So we are seeing how they approach this. They station police for observation, and make very clear the penalties for not keeping to quarantine (a 3000 to 600 000 dollar fine), and what is probably worse, being confined to hospital (which might well be a Diamond Princess experience) .

Once the hospitals are full, I guess jail, which does not bear thinking about (they had their first case there too)…come to think about it, prison riots are likely. Iran released a swathe of lesser offenders because of the outbreak… but at the same time made a rule that anyone who doesn’t follow instructions regarding the epidemic would be executed.

ReadyKilowatt
ReadyKilowatt
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

All about getting access to that FEMA money.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  ReadyKilowatt

Here in Oregon it is that, remember congress just passed an $8.4 billion appropriation to respond to CV19 and they will have to spend more soon, this is that huge. But, in Oregon a declared emergency allows the governor to govern more or less without the encumbrance of a minority party like the GOP which has hamstrung her iron fisted policies of socialist delight. I am a democrat and even I think she should be recalled and replaced. And we did try! The Gen X’ers in Portland though really run the state, and they are about to find out political reality when it comes to backlash.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear

Oregon also declared a state of emergency today when two new cases were identified (in my county no less) and the real reason to declare an emergency is not only access to federal dollars but our constitution voids certain majority and super majority requiremants when it comes to emergencies. The governor can act without the consent of the legislature under those circumstances. And it is routinely abuse under the “progressive” democrat Kate Brown. Mind you I am a democrat and I think the party ought to kick that bitch out, but till it does she has the power now to order the national guard as she wishes. God help us.

Ted R
Ted R
4 years ago

Somebody needs to get those damn test kits in mass production tout de suite. This virus is no joke anymore.

Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Ted R

This virus was never a joke. I started tracking it on January 24 because it was obvious then that it had the potential to be serious.

Herkie
Herkie
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

I started to worry when the very first patient was brought to Wuhan by ambulance last year only they were calling it pneumonic plague back then. When I read those words, bubonic plague that you could inhale just by being near other people, in the heart of China, I thought here we go, the big noisy end. Fat lady starting her aria. So, in some ways it is not THAT bad, but before this is over at least a million will die, maybe a million right here at home, maybe more. And at least half will be because of the incompetence of Donald Trump.

numike
numike
4 years ago

ok lets do the math link to twitter.com

Anda
Anda
4 years ago
Reply to  numike

What is in store is lockdowns wherever transmission reaches a certain intensity. This will slow the expansion of the virus. As testing lags infections even under the most active testing protocol, this means a state of perpetual uncertainty. Even if there is a case here and a case there reality, people will be aware that they might be getting caught up in the next outbreak before it is registered.

This is going to be very stressful in itself for a lot of people, that without mentioning large epidemic outbreaks across ctities or the country, and the harsh response that will follow those.

edk38
edk38
4 years ago
Reply to  numike

You want the math? You can’t handle the math. This is what 22% daily growth looks like…actual numbers for 3 weeks weeks outside of China where the numbers are more reliable…3900 new cases today, 18,000 next week and 108,000 daily new cases the following week

tokidoki
tokidoki
4 years ago
Reply to  edk38

Math can be defeated with the lack of testing kits. If there are testing kits, we’ll still defeat math by refusing to test.

DBG8489
DBG8489
4 years ago
Reply to  numike

If you want to laugh (or maybe cry), read that whole thread including the replies.

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