Strength in the US Dollar is Easy to Explain

US Dollar Index courtesy of StockCharts 

“By far the biggest failure of fintwit community (with the exception of 1 person) has been not being able to explain this and worse, taking a collective bet against the USD in mass. This, to me, is the main story of fintwit…”

Actually, reasons for the strength of the US dollar are pretty obvious, once you know how the index is constructed.

US Dollar Index 

US Dollar Index chart courtesy of ICE Futures. 

There used to be five more countries in the index but they were replaced with the Euro. 

The Euro is 57.6% of the index, the Japanese Yen 13.6%, and the British Pound 11.9%.

That pretty much tells you all you need to know. Here are some related details.

  • The ECB and Bank of Japan still have negative interest rates. 
  • The Fed is on a huge rate hike and QT rampage
  • Japan has pledged to defend its 10-year rate to under 0.25 percent. 
  • The ECB will not start QT until some time in the third quarter with no hint of early or later in the quarter.

Japan Industrial Output

Spain Inflation

Germany 

Germany PMI far worse than the US.

What About Gold?

Gold chart courtesy of StockCharts 

Many people think the US dollar is holding back the price of gold. But look at the chart.

Gold is over $1800 an ounce. It was $310 or so in 2003 with the US dollar index in the same place.

Moves in the dollar don’t really set the price of gold. Rather, gold is a function of faith in central banks.

Gold vs Faith in Central Banks 

People seem convinced that Powell is the second coming of Paul Volcker. Maybe he is for a while, but eventually deficits will come into play. 

Where to for the Dollar?

DXY is highest since Dec 2002 and it will break through 120 this Fall, I think,” says Tamay.

I think not. The 120 level is too far away and there is not enough time. 

If the Fed hints at a pause in the pace of hikes, that will be it for the dollar. At some point the Fed will pause. 

For now, the Fed is on a mission. And as long as it stays on that mission, the dollar is likely to be relatively strong. 

But will that hold long enough for the dollar index to hit 120?

It’s possible, but I strongly doubt it. Meanwhile, as long as the dollar fundamentals remain strong, dollar shorts are not the best bet.

Powell: “We understand better how little we understand about inflation”

In case you missed it, please see Powell: “We understand better how little we understand about inflation”

The ECB held a forum on inflation. The Fed, Bank of England, ECB, and the BIS took questions.

Whereas Powell emphatically pledged to tackle inflation, ECB president Christine Lagarde stressed “Moving gradually is certainly appropriate in times of high uncertainty.”

See the above link for a pile of interesting quotes.

The US has the strongest economy and is moving the fastest on rate hikes and QT.

There’s your strong dollar. One of my readers put it this way “Prettiest gal in the whorehouse.”

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Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Does anyone know how to make a chart over the past 50-100years that compares Oil, Gold, S&P, Median Home Price, Average Mortgage Payment, all divided by M2?
I’ve searched all of the major charting platforms and I can’t find a reasonable way.
JmagY
JmagY
1 year ago
“Prettiest gal in the whorehouse.”

I prefer to think of it as prettiest girl at the ugly girl dance.

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  JmagY
I prefer to recall a business trip to Manhattan in the early 1990s. Got to my hotel at about 8 p.m., and was hungry. The hotel was a “limited service” place, so I went out in search of a deli for a sandwich and a beer to bring back to my room. Right there on the corner of 39th & Lex, on the way for some food, I ran into a hooker in a fake fur coat.
“60 bucks for a bj and 100 for a good fk,” she said. Right there on the corner, as casually as if she were asking for directions to Grand Central. She was pretty in a faded sort of way, and ugly and depressing in a desperate sort of way. I declined. LOL
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
Other plausible reasons include:
Powell is trying to force China to unpeg the yuan from the USD. As the market price of US denominated debt falls, China’s wealth falls. Other nations will also face a decline in wealth from US bonds in their portfolios. China’s economy would then slow or decline. The longer a nation holds US bonds, the more wealth they stand to lose. The logical decision is to sell holdings of US debt, which may be another goal Powell is trying to achieve: draw foreign consumption and investments into the US instead of using the printing press. Americans will face the pain of higher interest rates, but it’s for our own good. Think of the factories and job opportunities that will be created in the US.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Looking back I recall a number of times when it was suggested I do something “for my own good.” A few times it worked out quite well. A far greater number of times it proved to be for someone else’s good.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
DXY monthly with bubbles to ignore. Ignore the Plaza Accord Feb 1985 @164.72. Ignore Mar 2008 nadir @70.798. // We cannot ignore Nixon
July 1973 fractal zone : close 92.91/ low 90.54 and Jan 1974 : close 105.50/ high 109.50. Don’t forget Nov 1982 backbone : 126.02 high/
115.43 low. Draw those line, because Nixon still dominate DXY. DXY reached Jan 1974 fractal zone.
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
1 year ago
“Prettiest gal in the whorehouse.”
“The healthiest horse in the glue factory”
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
The cleanest shirt in the laundry pile.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“The US has the strongest economy and is moving the fastest on rate hikes and QT.”
Re QT – Federal Reserve was to commence shrinkage starting June 1st. So far, balance sheet has GROWN $20 billion this month.
At 4:30 eastern today the latest weekly update by Federal Reserve. I will be first in line …
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
“This time its different”. I heard this in 2000 in tech before the bottom dropped out in 2001 BEFORE 9/11. This younglings forget periods of overinvestment and speculation lead to recessions.
Why the latest round of tech layoffs feels a bit different

Ultimately, the flood of layoffs hitting the tech space signals a fundamental change across the industry, a shift from focusing on growth towards honing in on profitability.

“Make no mistake — the tech sector is still bustling with innovation and growth opportunities, but I think at least as far as tech start-ups go, there will be less of a focus on growth and scaling as quickly as possible,” Wang said. “With a recession around the corner, investors — both in the public markets and in venture capital — are looking for more reasonable expectations, and this means rather than focus on growth, companies in the tech sector must turn their attention to achieving profitability as quickly as possible and sustaining it for as long as possible. To meet this urgency, layoffs are unfortunately part of the equation.”

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“a shift from focusing on growth towards honing in on profitability.”
Yes. But not just in tech. Tightening financial conditions will be the death knell – or close to it – for zombies of all stripes.
Get lean … or go out of business.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
I saw the same thing in 2001 as the article stated. Ultimately profits rule.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
The US has the strongest economy and is moving the fastest on rate hikes and QT.
The strongest foundation on the block but shares the same ground as everyone else. Despite all the talk of de-globalization, the global economy still moves in sync. A weak US consumer is grounds for a global synchronized recession. Like 2009.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
This is why Russia and China are trying to break dollar hegemony. But China will have problems doing this without affecting their economy.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
China doesn’t want to have the yuan be the reserve because it would require them to run trade deficits.
FrankieCarbone
FrankieCarbone
1 year ago
So to summarize Mish, The $$$ is the best looking horse in the glue factory?
Jack
Jack
1 year ago
Reply to  FrankieCarbone
In other words, has the best paint job on all the vehicles driving off the cliff?
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Jack
The most attractive Democrat.
Cocoa
Cocoa
1 year ago
Gold and all commodities are measured in DOLLARS. US has the most liquid debt markets in the world. So if you want to convert your crap stocks to gold or whatever you need US DOLLARS. If you get margined out your need DOLLARS. All the stupid nations of the world that created bond denominated in the USD need DOLLARS. Western Oil is in DOLLARS
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Sigh – Repeat after me
THE PRICING UNIT IS IRRELEVANT
One does not need dollars to buy gold and one does not need dollars to buy oil
The pricing quote does not make a damn bit of difference. NONE
FrankieCarbone
FrankieCarbone
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Thanks Mish. I was a bit stupified by the comment that “gold is priced in dollars”. I think the issue lies with most people’s inability to understand both how a dollar is created and what it is that gives it its value. The “boring stuff”. But you already know this, so don’t think I am telling you something that I don’t know that you already know. 🙂
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
“Purest gal in the whorehouse”.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Prettiest horse in the glue factory.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
I’m hardly an economic expert, rather a student. However, I find it hard to believe the price of gold hasn’t skyrocketed during these times because we have so much faith in the central banks. I find them an abomination, as do a lot of people. Could it be that the crypto craze we’ve seen has changed the dynamics? At least temporarily. After all, many invested in crypto for many of the same reasons people have historically invested in gold. Any thoughts on this? Please don’t hesitate to slam me if I’m wrong. I’m not a Karen and love to be raked over the coals as a mule whipped to the bone learns the best. Not that I’m encouraging any such thing.
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
It’s not in the US government’s interest to have gold as an alternative to the dollar. The bullion banks sell paper gold (gold which they do not possess) to keep the price down. They literally create these contracts out of thin air and sell “gold” which does not in fact exist. It’s fraud of course but then that’s their modus operandi.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Exactly. They keep the price of gold and silver suppressed to support the Dollar. It feels today that there is no place safe at all. Everything is losing value even the Dollar due to high inflation.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
How does selling paper gold keep the price down? For that matter why would the bank care whether they keep the price down or not. Banks only care about making profits and they can do that regardless of what the price of gold is.
There is no shortage of people on boards like this all over the internet who believe the price of gold is being suppressed in some manner and if only it wasn’t it would rise to 5K or 10K or some other high number. The problem with that is look what happens when you compare Gold price to Platinum.
Gold – 1828 Oz
Platinum – 1023 Oz
Yet Platinum is 30x rarer than Gold. So if Gold is 1800 an Oz, shouldn’t Platinum be 54000 an Oz? Or is ‘someone’ suppressing the price of Platinum? Or maybe Platinum is the deal of the century because of how much it’s undervalued…
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
You can buy physical gold for typically about 5% over spot.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Depends on how much and in what form.
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
If I am in the metals market and I see the price going up and I have the ability to sell metals that I don’t own, I can easily flood the market and kill any rallies in price. In fact I can drive the price down at will. A simple rule requiring sellers to have physical possession of the metal they are selling would eliminate this fraudulent behavior completely.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Yawn, yawn. The old “bullion bank conspiracy theory” returns. I haven’t seen that one for 20 years. The bullion banks were all going to go broke when gold went from $300 to $1800 and silver went from $4 to $38. Only thing is, they didn’t. How can this be? If they had really been naked shorts, they would have been wiped out. The answer is, no, that’s not what bullion banks do. What they actually do is to sign long term contracts with miners to buy gold and silver production, then sell it into the futures market. Are the short in the futures market? Yes. Do they have the physical gold and silver in their hands at the moment? No. Are they at risk from rising prices? No, because, while they will roll their contracts over regularly, they will over time take delivery from miners, and deliver it to the futures buyers.
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Talk about naive. Google JP Morgan and precious metals! Even the government referred to their precious metals operation as a criminal enterprise! I bet you think Goldman Sachs is a charitable enterprise too!!
Scooot
Scooot
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
It was criminal, but they weren’t moving the price on a long term basis. I believe they were spoofing the market by placing orders and cancelling them before execution. Other participants saw their orders and moved the price for them so they could execute the trade they really wanted to make.
Investment banks mainly use futures to hedge and to take some speculative positions within their own internal limits. They have very powerful compliance departments breathing down their necks these days so doing anything like you suggest would be very difficult even if they wanted to.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
For ‘student’, you have insight compared to some here. I suspect crypto was made possible by too much money looking for a place to go, and people who wanted a double-digit return by the end of the month. And yes, some think the same is true for gold. The truth is (as MIsh consistently points out) gold is a hedge against Fed incompetence. Gold price and gold-rush will go hand in. I am of the mind that panic will set in as people realize the Fed cannot stop global recession, and likely will make it worse.
Now, as to ‘gold’ prices in US dollars? Finite supply, vast increase in global demand–you do the math. The pricing currency doesn’t really matter. Gold is universal. An ounce of gold is the same in Russia, or Australia, or the USA.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I’m wondering what the ban on Russian gold going to London and NY will do to those markets? Russia still has plenty of options for sale. (China, India and the Middle East all love gold) plus Russia doesn’t need to sell as they already have a problem with a strong rouble and a strong export import ratio. So if Russia just keeps the gold in their national reserve to back a BRICS breakaway from USD hegemony what will places like London do if clients ask for their gold and the outflow exceeds inflow. I’m sure London and NY has plenty of gold in the vaults but presumably nearly all already belongs to various governments and might they just demand return of their gold if they get a whiff that something is not right?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  effendi
Check out how long it took the FRBNY to return gold to Germany when Germany requested quite a bit of their gold.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Russia has been paying for imports with shipments of gold. The sellers of those imports then sell that gold on the market for dollars depressing the price. It will depress gold as long as Russia has to sell its gold for imports.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Russia has not been paying for shipments with gold. It has a monstrous pile out euros.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
That it can’t use. If it’s electrons they can’t transfer it. If they have it in bills then that takes a plane to transport it like gold would have to be.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Russia cannot pay their imports in physical euros or dollars because they and basically everyone else does not have that amount in actual physical cash. Only the ECB and the Treasury can print the stuff. Russia has lots of electronic cash that they can’t transfer but they do have a lot of gold that they can put on an airplane to pay for imports. That is what they do now and it’s the logical thing for them to do.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
No one, I and I mean no one loads physical gold on planes and delivers it to foreign countries (it was a gigantic deal a few years ago when Venezuela took physical delivery of gold they had in London bank) to settle accounts. So they are definitely not doing that.
Almost assuredly Russia is exchanging through 3 parties (Switzerland, China, India etc) who take a cut.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Are the Russians exchanging gold through third parties? Russia has been getting creative lately in its exports and is selling over a billion a week of oil to China and India. Just the other day there was the news that they sold over 20 million dollars worth of coal to a major Indian cement maker. The Indians paid in Yuan.
Russia has no need to sell any gold now and they can just add what they produce to their reserves. It could even get to the stage that with the huge amounts of money they are making from exports they might spend some of that buying gold to ship to Russia.
Gold isn’t even near the main export of Russia, the make more exporting oil, gas and food ( food exports are worth double gold exports for example and just the Egyptian market alone is worth about 4 billion).
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  effendi
Gold reserves are tiny relative to the amount of money that gets exchanged in imports/exports. Russia has ~2300 tons which is only around 100 billion dollars worth. That might seem like a lot but it’s not even 1 years worth of imports.
The important thing is that their imports/exports are essentially zeroing out so they don’t owe anyone. So in essence they do something like sell India 10 billion in oil and buy 10 billion of goods from China so it’s a net zero (India essentially just sends China 10 billion).
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Yes they are and since they have the gold on stock in their vaults they do not have to go through third parties. That why they built their gold reserves up in the first place! It is there to give them the option to buy things they need using their gold. Now with the financial sanctions in place it is difficult to impossible to do wire transfers so Russia can pay in gold and the best way for the gold to get to the seller is by plane. This is Barter 101. There is no reason not to use gold and every reason to use it. The Russians are buying imports and paying with their gold. The UAE is the principle transaction zone by the way.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to use whatever currency is being used to buy their oil? It doesn’t really matter what currency is used as long as it can be swapped for another currency.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Could you rephrase the question? “To use whatever currency is being used” is a bit confusing because people do use whatever currency is being used so I can’t get your meaning.
Currency swaps are the domain of the large global banks and the central banks and when you are doing a currency swap or any other swap for that matter liquidity of the underlying determines everything. If one side of the swap is illiquid like the ruble is now then the swap cannot be done. Since the financial sanctions came online and virtually all the big banks won’t participate because of the high risk. There are yuan-ruble trades between China and Russia and a couple of rupee-ruble trades but the volumes remain low because when you come down to it China doesn’t want the yuan to be traded more and not many actors have use for both rupees and rubles.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Is the rouble illiquid? To give but one example Egypt has now started to accept the MIR payments system ( its Russian) as they relied heavily on Russian tourists to earn the dollars (from VISA and Mastercard payments) to pay for Russian wheat. Now they will earn roubles from MIR to pay for Russian wheat. The only loser is the US card companies not getting their cut. What Egypt does is probably being copied by other countries. You think Sri Lanka will refuse to have a rouble debt for the oil they are buying on credit?
JRM
JRM
1 year ago
Reply to  effendi
True, all those cards were working within days after they were cut by visa/mastercard..
Then they complained that Russian Gov’t was now pocketing the interests on those cards into their banks.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  effendi
If you want to buy rubles it is easy. To sell them is not. Try selling some rubles to but dollars or Euros on the open market. You will be quoted a very wide spread with is the definition of illiquidity. Also more large the size the more illiquid the trade becomes and international commerce deals in size transactions. Ruble transactions in the world before the war was in 11th place. That is small but it was the largest of all the secondary economies and was easy to hedge and had no settlement problems. Now there is no liquidity so no transactions and no settlement.
In Egypt only Russian tourists have to pay in rubles. All others can pay in euros and dollars so that is not a sign of the ruble becoming a desirable currency. I wonder of those Russian tourists take wads of rubles to exchange for dollars in the souks. That’s the place to get the best rates. I can guess at the price the Russian tourists are getting.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“I think not. The 120 level is too far away and there is not enough time.”
Mish, you are likely right … BUT if a financial crisis hits (it will) ????
More importantly, $US will stay strong (for now) and continue to blow disinflationary (deflationary) winds our way.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
oh really…
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
yes, really.
Commodities just beginning their rollover.
We’re only in about the 2nd or 3rd inning. No one pays attention till the 7th.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
And how many years will that take? Here is a post from 2 years ago, you saying the same thing. Scroll down and look through your comments.
I dont understand why you are in a deflationary mental tidal lock given whats been happening the past couple of years.
Eventually, at some point, you will likely be right but at what cost?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
The economy is a supertanker … takes a while to stop.
The massive fiscal stimulus of 2020 and 2021 kicked the can 18 months (or so). NOTHING has changed my outlook – then to now – due to massive debt overhang.
Not that you care, but Summer of 2021 I started to sound the alarm on inventory build … KNEW it would be a problem once “free money” stimulus gone. We are there now.
My definition of deflation will be a few monthly year over year negatives for cpi (a few tenths or so of a percent) … just like back in 2008 / 2009.
Overall level will remain elevated.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
The ‘cost’ depends on when you bought in. If you bought gold at $2K per ounce, you’d be anxious about now. If you bought in at $1,500, or lower, there’s a margin of safety when gold is $1,800 +/-.
“… whats been happening the past couple of years” is exactly the issue.
As to ‘deflationary mental tidal lock’, I’m not sure what that is. If you mean realizing something is underway for the last few years and taking precautions, then I am guilty. BTW, I still remember my son telling me I was crazy to get out of the market when I did. It was around April 2007. Six months later, the Dow maxed at 14K, and plummeted. By then, I’d shifted 100% to gold. Timing is everything.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
That was before we saw the Central Bank Reaction and the Government reaction.
And I have not been in a deflationary camp for a hell of a long time if you have bothered to stay in this universe instead of your own. Read damn near any of my Case Shiller home price reports.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
The past couple of years in the markets have been like a street junkie full of PCP.
Can’t be stopped, but can’t keep it up forever.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Deleted my cheap shot.
killben
killben
1 year ago
“Whereas Powell emphatically pledged to tackle inflation, ECB president Christine Lagarde stressed “Moving gradually is certainly appropriate in times of high uncertainty.””
It does not really matter what ECB or any other central bank thinks. If the Fed hikes, the others have to hike or defend the currency meaning to say their thoughts do not matter, they have to scramble. BOJ and ECB can squirm all they want but it is clear who is the boss.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  killben
Why? Everyone wants to devalue their currency. BOJ has done nothing while the Yen has crashed.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I pay close attention to BOJ / yen. Kuroda still with foot to the print accelerator to defend 25 bps on 10yr. He has that luxury for now … May cpi came out at 2.5% year over year (same as April). Tanking the yen has forced rest of Asian (mercantile) currencies lowered to compete.
Beijing – with its peg to $US – has to be feeling the heat. Yuan has devalued a bit this year, but not nearly enough to remain competitive.
Major yuan devaluation #1 on my potential black swan lists. If that happens, $US will soar and Emerging Markets will be hit with crisis / panic.
$trillions in offshore debt denominated in $US … good luck, borrowers … you’ll need it.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
One way to solve the problem is for China to swap rmb for yen. Not sure if they’ve ever done that.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
What would be the mechanics, and what would it accomplish?
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
They would go to forex and buy yen. it would push up the value of the yen relative to their currency.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Why not buy yen with dollars rather than yuan?
killben
killben
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
“Everyone wants to devalue their currency”
Yup! with caveats…
1) that it is not disorderly and too much.
2) Even BOJ does not want it to go from 135 to 150 on short notice.
3) Capital Flight – FE reserves will deplete and then you will have a case of slowly and then all of a sudden. Who knows when it will be all of a sudden. BOP will then become a major destabilising issue (SriLanka)
4) Cost of Imports – especially if you import essentials (and exports will take a dip during recession)
5) The inter-connectedness of a global market means competitors will react. Beggar thy neighbour which can only be taken so far and no further.
So it will become a case of what you wish for (devaluation).
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
Reply to  killben
They have to hike or defend? They are not doing either so it’s a game of chicken so far. The Europeans and Japanese are hoping we blink first.
killben
killben
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
Fed will blink only in case of a credit issue in the US. Others are in a jam. It all depends on inflation as that defines the Fed action. The longer it goes on, better the chances of someone blinking
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  killben
Credit issues are there already. Did you watch the ten year the other week when it Sikes so quickly? The markets crashed in unison. The ECB and The Fed stepped in to slow the storm. The ten year dropped quickly. Who is buying this debt?
killben
killben
1 year ago
Reply to  Bhakta
If there is a credit seizure that threatens to bring the financial system down – then no one really knows what will happen. With inflation being where it is. May be you will have a monetary system, which I think is the only way forward. Otherwise it would applying band-aid. No one can tell whether it will happen though it is much needed. Leadership is all about doing the right thingat difficulty times. That calls for guts. Whether this “timid&cowering” Fed can do it is anybody’s guess.
IMO, the central banks credibility is under test and this could well be gold’s moment.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
No, they can hike to defend their currency, or they can do nothing, in which case their currency will fall, and their inflation will rise. No one is “hoping someone blinks”. They are each doing what they believe is right for their country. The US believes that they need to deal with inflation, so they are hiking. The EU is more concerned with economic growth, so they aren’t. Both choices will have ramifications. The economy in the US will slow, but so will inflation. The economy in the EU won’t be hit as fast or hard, for inflation will rise.
killben
killben
1 year ago
Reply to  Carl_R
“The EU is more concerned with economic growth, so they aren’t”
The EU is more concerned there will be NO EU if yields rise. In fact BOJ will be able to handle the Fed hikes once it decides to. Imagine ECB’s bind – If you hike EU will fragment. So do QE for the weaker countries without calling it QE. They are stilling in Draghi land of ‘whatever it takes’ of 2012 while it is more like Soros bet on the Pound. How long does it think it can do this with the Fed Hikes and inflation? More so if the Fed does not blink
pimaCanyon
pimaCanyon
1 year ago
great post. thank you.
Esclaro
Esclaro
1 year ago
The dollar has been rocketing higher destroying everything in its path. It may very well hit 120 but if it does look for numerous Third World defaults and bankruptcies. It will also destroy US exports as well.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  Esclaro
That is happening now. Look at Sri Lanka for one. I’m in Thailand now and the government is freaking over the weakness of the the Baht. The Bank of Thailand wants to raise rates, but the government is fighting that.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
“Rather, gold is a function of faith in central banks.”
If this is true, what was magical about 2003 that people had so much faith in central banks that gold was down to $310. The change from $300 to $1800 is a 480% change so does that mean we have 480% less faith in central banks now? Mortgage rates were at 5.83% in 2003.
I am asking for trading purposes and to profit from these scenarios. Its easy to use calculus to calculate rates of change and extrapolations.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
At that time the US was still running surpluses if you can believe it. In reality the last one was 2001, but in 2003 it still wasn’t much of a deficit and what was there was in response to 9/11 and it was imagined once we wrapped that up we’d go back to surpluses. Of course the US stupidly invaded Iraq in 2003, deficits exploded, the Patriot act came in domestically and gold began it’s rise.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Nice try but the price of gold is global not US centric so what was happening in the US deficit wise seems largely irrelevant. Next guess anyone?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Back then, the US was the #1 player. 9/11 was a memory. Planes were flying and people were buying. The future looked bright. There was little need to hold gold. Except things had changed–deficits increasing, Fed taking a bigger role, international competition (China) surging…. Gold crept steadily upward, near $1K by 2008, with the great recession underway.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

The correct answer is the same as it is for all other commodities: supply and demand. No conspiracy theories needed just hard data and analysis.

Gold has become extremely costly to mine and produce. Production down the last few years which means the price should be going up UNLESS the demand is down as well.
You can google your own “gold demand” reseach. Here is a hint for a starting point. Gold.org
I only invest/trade on data not “gut feelings”, “conspiracies”, tarot cards, horoscope, etc.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
You didn’t specify you were interested in world wide gold prices. In reality the price of gold goes up/down vs all currencies. So even though in the past few years in the US it seems to have gone sideways, in other countries it has doubled because their dollar has fallen (lack of faith in those countries currencies as Mish stated).
The supply/demand aspect obviously matters as it does for anything but neither supply or demand changes very dramatically (minus a brief run in the late 70s when the Hunts were trying to corner the Silver Market) and thus could not be responsible for the price going up 480% since 2003.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Pretty much explained – read the timeline
Greenspan was the great Maestro – That is a media term.
The period from 1980 to 2000 was called “the great moderation”
Disinflationary periods are the worst times to hold gold.
It fell from 850 to 250 between 1980 and 2000 making “Brown’s Bottom”
Scooot
Scooot
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
“The change from $300 to $1800 is a 480% change”
There’s no one cause. Notes and Coin in circulation (H6) have gone up 4 fold since then so it doesn’t surprise me gold’s gone up by as much. 480% is a compound rate of about 8.6% over 19 years.
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
Yes you are right. It is a race between one currency using a walker and the other currencies are using crutches. Not much of a race but if you are only watching relative positions it might be interesting. Dollar is down against most commodities (different index).
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
It’s only strong relative to other currencies. Not strong relative to goods and services costs.
Naphtali
Naphtali
1 year ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
Great metaphor.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  PreCambrian
Sort of like Russia v Ukraine = two cancer patients fighting over the morphine.

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