Texas Doctor Performs Abortion, Gets Sued By An Arkansas Felon In First Test of Law

Test of the Texas Heartbeat Law

The Wall Street Journal reports Texas Doctor Who Performed Abortion Is Sued in Test of New Law

The Texas Heartbeat Act bans abortions after “cardiac activity” can be detected, usually around six weeks of gestation, and it deputizes private citizens to sue anyone they believe may have aided such a procedure and collect $10,000. It went into effect Sept. 1.

Alan Braid, a San Antonio physician, said in a Washington Post opinion essay Saturday that he had performed an abortion in defiance of the law, widely known as SB 8, earlier this month.

A former Arkansas lawyer, Oscar Stilley, who said he is on home confinement serving time after a tax-fraud conviction, filed a civil complaint against the doctor Monday in Bexar County District Court. He said he decided to sue the doctor after he read about the case early Monday morning and wanted to test the Texas law, which doesn’t require plaintiffs to be state residents.

In a separate lawsuit, Felipe N. Gomez, an Illinois resident who is described in his filing as a “pro choice plaintiff,” filed a complaint Monday morning in Bexar County. While the complaint is against Dr. Braid, it says Mr. Gomez believes the Texas law to be illegal and asks a court to strike it down. He said that he wasn’t interested in collecting any money.

“I’m against having someone tell me I have to get a shot or wear a mask and the same people who agree with me on that—the GOP—tell people what they can do with their bodies on the other hand,” Mr. Gomez said. “It’s inconsistent.”

New Roe v. Wade Poll

In a new poll by highly respected pollster Monmouth University, Most say leave Roe v. Wade as is.

Key aspects of the new Texas law restricting access to abortions receive a thumbs down from a broad majority of Americans, especially the so-called “bounty” payment provision. The latest Monmouth (“Mon-muth”) University Poll also finds public approval of the U.S. Supreme Court has dipped in the past five years while most Americans support keeping access to abortion legal and do not want the nation’s highest court to revisit the Roe v. Wade decision.

A majority of the public (54%) disagrees with the Supreme Court allowing the Texas law that effectively bans abortions after six weeks to go into effect. Another 39% of Americans agree with the court. Most Democrats (73%) disagree with the decision while most Republicans (62%) agree. Democrats (77%) and independents (61%) are more likely than Republicans (47%) to say they have heard a lot about this new law.

Two unique provisions of the Texas law are broadly opposed by the public. Seven in ten Americans (70%) disapprove of allowing private citizens to use lawsuits to enforce this law rather than having government prosecutors handle these cases. Additionally, 8 in 10 Americans (81%) disapprove of giving $10,000 to private citizens who successfully file suits against those who perform or assist a woman with getting an abortion. 

Whether one is for or against abortion, the Texas law is beyond idiotic. Allowing people who were not injured in any way to sue for damages when there are no damages is clearly unconstitutional. 

It’s also stupid.

The in your face Texas legislation is not going to do the GOP any good in the 2022 midterms. It offends a majority of women and a majority of independents.

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dguillor
dguillor
2 years ago
I was curious about what a six month old fetus was like, and I was kinda shocked by what I found. It’s about the size of a lentil and looks nothing like a human being, link to babycenter.com. This will likely become a person, but it’s not a human now. 
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
The US is dominated by a predatory legal system that is abused to make money for random people. Suing stores for not having wheelchair access, locking folks up in legal fees and court dates. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
More Government by arbitrary ambulance chasers, in the grand tradition of our pathetic little dystopia.
If abortion is killing children, throw the guy in jail for murdering and dismembering a kid. If it’s not killing children, then why the heck is some trashbag attempting to profiteer off of kangaroo court abuse doing, harassing people? It’s either premeditated murder or it’s nothing at all. There are no kinda-sorta, yes but, like, what??, baaaad!! But HUhh??? say the retards. As always…
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
I am pro-life, but as usual with the modern day Republicans, they have made their attempt to outlaw abortion to be nothing more than a circus. In the end, history will show the Republicans screwed the pro-life movement with legislation like this.

Soon the Democrats will write parallel legislation that will allow these silly lawsuits in cases of gun violence. Once again we will see the true cost of “owning the libs.” 

Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
Unlike abortion legislation I would expect more limits on weapons. It will just take a really bad event for it to happen like a massive domestic terrorist attack. Think January 6th but worse like congressman and senators getting killed. 
IB6
IB6
2 years ago
My personal opinion is that this anti-abortion bill is the worst legislation coming out of Texas I have seen since 1960’s. It is an attempt to enforce beliefs of a particular religion on everyone, even on atheists + it is blatantly anti-constitutional.
However, it seems that Mish and many commenters here do not see why the TX legislature passed this bill. They are fishing for South Texas Hispanic votes, who are religious and are becoming a more and more significant voting block due to their sheer numbers and the fact that they started voting en masse in 2020 elections for the first time. If Abbot &Co wins over their vote, TX will be R for decades, eventually with a Spanish speaking GOP which will cause cognitive dissonance on both Left and Right.
In last elections, this woman: link to twitter.com almost unseated an entrenched D congressman (51-48), with little if any support from establishment. She will be elected next time. Please read what she says, and please understand that this is a fairly typical way how rural and small town S TX Hispanics think.
About Apple and other companies pulling out of Texas, that will never happen since $$$ are much more important than anything else. They all are still in China, where Uighur treatment borders on genocide…so keep dreaming.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  IB6
I think for many people it comes down to fundamental humanity, and protecting a life, which was also a difficult issue for the US Supreme Court in Roe vs Wade, btw. At what point should a human fetus be protected? 
Unlimited abortion raises all sorts of questions. For example, fetal viability generally sets a cut off for abortions, yet late term abortion is increasingly performed, and not for medical reasons having to do with the mother and fetus. How do you feel about the sale of fetal parts? What about fetal farming? What about aborting girl babies (as was done in China?)  If/when there is a DNA test for such things as intelligence, or homosexuality, is abortion still allowed if the mother wants a ‘perfect’ child?
Imposing values and beliefs cuts BOTH ways. What if I said, those with low regard for human life favor abortion? That abortion is a convenience for ignorant slutty women?  Abortion is symbolic sacrifice (as it is to other religious groups)?  Yes, offensive–that’s the problem with values and beliefs–they are all over the place..
IB6
IB6
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Unfortunately, there is a huge overlap between supporters of prohibiting abortion, supporters of bombing foreign countries (which results in huge number of collateral deaths), and supporters of death penalty (which inevitably results in someone innocent getting executed). Intellectual consistency would require that if we think all human life is sacred, we should not be droning half of the world and should not be executing even criminals. Afghan family seven kids, recently droned by Bidet incompetent generals, take precedence in importance, at least for me. Where are legislatures protesting that?
I don’t think that any sane person can support unlimited abortion. However, the new TX law goes way beyond that. This is a huge overkill and is a stealthy way of trying to outlaw abortions. Not different from various exciting gun regulations by so-called liberals, who are also trying to outlaw guns in the same sneaky way. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
This abortion law is going to put Texas in play permanently for the Dems. If they would get out of the way and let Mathew McConaughey run, he would win in a landslide. 
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Ironic. You post that this will put Texas in play permanently for the Dems, and the next post implies that it will lock Texas up for Republicans for decades. One or the other of you could be right, or perhaps neither, it it will have little if any net impact, moving some to the Republican side, and others to the Democrat side.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
OT. Looks like there was a PPT drop today on the markets. A few analysts said to buy yesterday. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
I put my toes in the water this morning…..not for a trade really, but because I thought it looked like PSX was in my buy zone. I hope to hold this one long term….even if we correct hugely, which I do not expect anytime real soon…..maybe next year. I h.ope this one turns into a long term hold….we’ll see how it works out.
Isn’t tomorrow the day Chairman Powell jawbones the marketer back up?
Varth
Varth
2 years ago
The statement,  “Allowing people who were not injured in any way to sue for damages when there are no damages is clearly unconstitutional”, is not correct in law.  There have been Qui Tam actions for centuries under common law.  It is not on point for the Texas law at issue here merely a correction to the above in parenthetical statement.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Varth
I appreciate the Qui Tam action issue you raise,  but isn’t the Texas law (allowing non-injured and non-related party to sue for damages) also about locus standi, thereby granting standing by action of law? If only the ‘mother’ can sue as the injured party, there would be no point to having the law
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago

The law will be decided in the Supreme Court as the system
was set up to do to resolve from a legal point of view changes in society. It
probably will make all the zealots on both sides very unhappy so f__k them. Hopefully
the Court will come up with workable guidelines and we can go forward.

Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Re: “Whether one is for or against abortion, the Texas law is beyond idiotic.”
Which is why I expect to see the law struck down without revisiting Roe v. Wade.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
The sooner this gets to the Supreme Court to be ruled on the better and  I agree with Mish that it’s certain to be struck down.
The cynic in me also thinks it was deliberately worded and a case filed immediately in order to fast track it to the Supreme Court in order to establish a legal precedent (perhaps against mandatory Vax or something similar).
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
And, I think it will fail at that. I think the court will overturn it, but not ever address Roe v. Wade, so there will be no ruling of significance.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
But I don’t think the precedent is meant to be about Roe vs Wade. That’s just the smokescreen to garner public attention.
I think it’s about using a 3rd party person to do an end around for government legislation (ie allowing 3rd person to sue who has no interest / is not directly damaged) that’s not enforceable/already been ruled against in court. For example using businesses to enforce vax mandates.
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Politically, I hate that politics rules on moral affairs.

Realistically, I love that they do.  I  hate slavery and am glad it was decided politically.

I also hate abortion.  I just wish the law was on the side of life more often.

Corvinus
Corvinus
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
I’m similarly inclined in terms of politics interfering with moral questions. I’d posit though that the difference is that the question of slavery is far more obvious and universally understandable as human rights issue and not grounded in a particular religious viewpoint. (In fact, if I recall correctly, slavery was accepted from a biblical point of view and arguments were made in support of it from that perspective )
I see abortion as a deeply personal issue and not one for which I feel a great deal of authority on which to comment on or decide for others. The fact is that the vast majority of opposition to abortion is based on religion – in the USA that means Christianity in particular. I’ve always felt this to be a bit paradoxical – the devout believe that god judges a person when they die, if that’s the case then why isn’t it enough to devout people that every woman that undergoes the procedure be judged individually in the hereafter and face whatever consequences they believe people face at that time?
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
Slave owners likewise thought it was a personal issue and felt it was unfair of the north to make decisions for them over whether or not they could own slaves.  Many of the slave owners didn’t understand why anyone cared.

The issue for conservatives (like myself), is that it’s not just about God judging a person when they die.  It’s about the present.  We don’t allow robbery to be legal because “God will judge them one day”.  We also don’t allow homicide to be legal “because God will judge them one day.”

On the contrary, we don’t allow those things to be legal because God also cares about the present situation of all of his Creation.  Slavery is the violation of the human rights of oppressed people groups (not just blacks).  Homicide is the violation of the rights of the one murdered.  Robbery is the violation of human rights of the one being dispossessed of property.  

These are moral issues that ultimately provide a legal basis for human rights.

Abortion is the same: Human rights also should apply to the unborn.  The legality of abortion is always a question of who has more human rights, the woman or the baby?  Generally, the law seeks to answer that question by taking the road of the path that violates the least number of rights.  For instance, taxation offers the government the ability to build a road but also by taking money from me to do so.  The benefit is worth it to me because I benefit also.  

Conservatives, like me, argue that a woman’s right not to be pregnant are not more important that the right of the baby to live.  It’s hard to argue for abortion from a purely moral perspective since it’s obvious a right to life is the highest right a human has.  Therefore the logic of those in support of abortion argue that the fetus isnt’ alive until such and such week and that abortion should be allowed.  There is no consistency in these arguments because of the failure to answer the question of “what is life”?

Some thoughts and musings of a conservative here.

Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
This is rule by riff raff.  The roly poly terrorists are on the rise.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
I don’t care much about how this turns out, but democrats complaining about republicans not following Roe v Wade is extremely hypocritical considering their blatantly not enforcing immigration laws.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I dunno… saw pics of a bunch of mounted cowboys chasing those Haitians with whips.  If that don’t count as capital E Enforcement, what does?
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
We spend $30b enforcing immigration laws.  How much more do you want?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
I truly fear for the future of the US. We are effectively in a civil war since Trump (an alleged rapist) and the Republicans unleashed themselves on the public. While the Texas law may be unconstitutional, it may also serve the purpose of reviewing the Roe decision against the highest court. The Federalist Society nominated all of the right wing judges there and on federal circuit courts. The Texas law feels more like a version of the American Taliban. Only time will tell what direction this all leads but rest assured it’s not good.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Meanwhile, Biden, (an alleged child molester), is allowing illegal aliens to swarm across the border.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
… by putting them on planes back to Haiti?
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
So, the republicans started a civil war? Not the “Not my president” party?
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
The “Invade the capitol, beat up some cops, break some stuff, steal some stuff,  smear some stuff on the walls, then play the victim card” party?
Used to be “litigious” had a negative connotation…. among conservatives.  Now they’re the lawsuit party.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
The so-called civil war (essentially just a divide between city and country people) has been around and going on LONG before Trump came into office. Its at least least a few decades (since the 90’s) old now. It’s just that social media has amplified everything to 11.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
FYI The Supreme Court will hear arguments Dec. 1 in Mississippi’s bid to
have the landmark Roe v. Wade decision guaranteeing a woman’s right to
an abortion overturned. Mississippi is “asking the high court to uphold its ban on most abortions after the 15th
week of pregnancy. The state has told the court it should overrule Roe
and the 1992 decision in Planned Parenthood v. Casey that prevent states
from banning abortion before viability, the point at which a fetus can
survive outside the womb, around 24 weeks of pregnancy.”
Apparently, medical treatment has advanced a long way since 1992.
Given the limitation of fetus viability, the Mississippi case might be the undoing of Roe Vs. Wade.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
The stupid new Texas law is probably going to be struck down….and I don’t really expect the supremes to overturn Roe.
But……you have to understand that the damage is largely done, and we aren’t going back to what we had before 2010. Planned Parenthood has been dealt a death blow by all the red state legislatures, who have managed to regulate abortion clinics out of existence for all intents and purposes.
Credit goes to Catholic and Evangelical voters, who used to see abortion differently, but came together in the early 2000’s to elect a bunch of extremely conservative Bible-thumping state senators and legislators who were also helped greatly by Charles Koch and similar super-rich pro-life Republicans who threw crazy money at this issue.
These same people are clueless about the long term consequences of making it hard for poor women to get abortions. . They also will never admit that the coming societal problems are theirs to own…..instead they’ll just go back to their old tactic of being hard on crime.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
This reeks of hypocrisy, because when the college-bound cheerleader daughters of the rich and upper middle class Evangelicals get pregnant out of wedlock in high school, these same Bible-thumping Christians will fly their kids wherever they have to go to terminate those pregnancies, no matter how many weeks they are into gestation.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Think of it as a source of income for blue states. They can have abortion clinics on every corner.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
As Jesus teaches.
TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’  Matthew 7
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  TCW
Oh, you want to teach ME scripture? I’m actually fairly conversant with the teachings of Christ.
John Chapter 8, 

3 The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst 4 they said to him, “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. 5 Nown the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” 6 This they said to test him that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. 7 And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first tothrow a stone at her.” 8 And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. 9 But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. 10 Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no onecondemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said,“Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.” 

12Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will notwalk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” 13 So the Pharisees said to him, “You are bearing witness about yourself; your testimony is not true.” 14 Jesus answered, “Even if I do bear witnessabout myself, my testimony is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going, but you do not know where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. 

TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I was merely pointing out, in reference to the term you used, ‘hypocrite,’ that not everyone who calls themselves Christian is saved.   Many are deceived.  In reference to verses you posted, Christ is not the judge, his father in heaven is, as verse 16 continues to say, “But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.”
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  TCW
I misunderstood your point. Thank you for clarifying that, and I’m in agreement with you.
TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
No problem at all, are you a believer?
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  TCW
Yes, but not in any sense that would be well-understood by most Evangelicals I know.
But I couldn’t any more NOT be a Christian than Elie Wiesel could not be a Jew. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  TCW
I responded and my reply got immediately sent to moderation purgatory. Let’s see if I can  say it again and get under the radar.
“Are you a believer?”
Yes, I could no more stop being a *hristian than Mike Bloomberg could stop being a J*w. But my beliefs are not those of my *vangel*cal neighbors. Not by a long shot. 
TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I understand.  I’m evangelical in that I believe the Bible is God’s inerrant word.   But some tend to act more like the Pharisees than Christ in that they can be self-righteous and look down on others rather than coming along side of people as sinners themselves.

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