The Budget Deficit Big Lie and When Will Soaring Debt Finally Matter

Change in public debt vs the purported fiscal year deficit. Data from St Louis Fed, chart by Mish.

Chart Notes

  • The change is debt is end of calendar year from the end of the previous calendar year.
  • Alleged deficits are fiscal year distortions of reality. 

The Big Deficit Lie

Nearly every year, debt rises more than the alleged deficit. This is not a fiscal vs. calendar year distortion, but an ongoing deficit lie. 

For example, there were alleged budget surpluses in four consecutive years, 1998 through 2001. Yet debt only fell once, in the year 2000, by 113.875 billion vs a purported budget surplus of $236.241 billion. 

2001 had a reported surplus of $128,236 billion. Yet ,debt rose by $281,223 billion.

Spotlight 2020 and 2021

For 2020, the reported deficit was $3.132 trillion but debt rose by $4.546 trillion. That’s a whopping negative discrepancy to the tune of $1.414 trillion. 

For comparison purposes, in 2021 debt did not rise as much as the deficit. The deficit was $2.776 trillion but debt only rose by $1.869 trillion.

Those are Covid-related fiscal vs calendar year anomalies. Regardless, debt is high and rising, generally mush faster on average than reported deficits.

Debt vs Deficit Q&A

Q: Why does public debt generally rise more than the alleged deficit?
A: Mainly because deficits are a lie. 

Here’s the long answer.

Because the projected deficit does not include all of the amount owed to the Social Security Trust Fund. That amount is called off-budget. But when the calendar year rolls over, the difference magically appears on the balance sheet as actual debt.

Deficit Scam

Excluding Social Security from the the fiscal year deficit is a purposeful accounting scam to make deficits appear smaller than they are. 

Debt Through Calendar Year 2021

Public debt data from St Louis Fed, chart by Mish.

Only once, did debt shrink. That was in 2000. Those numbers are through 2021.

US Debt Clock to the Second

The DebtClock graph updates every second. If you have not yet visited the site please take a look. 

2022 Math

  • The 2021 year end debt was $29.621 trillion. 
  • The alleged fiscal year 2022 deficit is $1,375 trillion.
  • 2022 is not over but debt has already risen by $1.687 trillion. 

Looking Ahead, Expect Worse

The ongoing story is even worse. Congressional projected deficit assume no recession ever, and never do. 

We are adding trillions in debt every year and it will get much worse. Interest on debt will soon hit $1 trillion a year. 

A Proposed Fix

No, we do not have better trade deals, and no, tariffs did not reduce public debt. Nearly 50,000 economic illiterates like that Tweet. 

Since Trump’s 2018 Tweet, public debt rose by over $10 trillion. 

When does this matter? 

I don’t know. You tell me. Just don’t pretend it will never matter because it will. 

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oee
oee
1 year ago
It never going to matter. the US is paying negative real rates on the debt even though the debt is higher than the 1990’s. In fact, interest rates then were higher even though there were fiscal …surpluses.
In fact, they should be heading lower next year.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
“Only once, did debt shrink. That was in 2000.”
Debt did not shrink. Government merely played a shell game of debt with US corporations. As soon as dot bomb collapsed, all that bad corporate debt became US debt. Almost like it was planned or something.
davidyjack
davidyjack
1 year ago
Debt already matters tremendously. It lowers GDP growth. It gives US society LESS options.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
1 year ago
Fools and their “money”…
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Only fools think the dollar is money. LOL. Thanks for the quotes.
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
The other budget scam is expressing debt as a percentage of GDP.
That is like a business expressing its debt as a ratio to revenue, instead of earnings.
The debt must be serviced from tax revenues.
Doing so paints a dark picture for the US where debt/revenue ratios are significantly worse than Greece or Italy.
Government revenue/debt ratio 2021 Tr$29.621/4.045 = 7.32 [Spent 6.082; 1.5× revenue]
Contrast to where I live: _______________ B€448.1/322.4 = 1.39 [Spent 345.8; 1.07× revenue]
By the way, I live in a ‘doomed sclerotic socialist welfare state’ dragging along a huge mostly indolent immigrant population.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
As a US senator once quipped: “A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon it all adds up.”
Oh – wait – he said billion not trillion.
What the heck, what’s three orders of magnitude between friends.
I know I’d be happier and more comfortable if my retirement fund was a thousand times what it is.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Hard to be finically responsible when you keeping your job depends on keeping over half the us population happy. well somewhat happy.
I wonder what shape we would be in today without the bush trump and all those other tax cuts. Funny the national parks system makes money but they are always cutting their budget.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

To appraise the effect of the Federal budget deficit on
interest rates, it is necessary to compare the deficit, not to a debt to
N-gDp-ratio (a contrived figure), but to the volume of current net private
savings made available to the credit markets.

These outsized deficits require that the Federal Reserve
monetize a large proportion of the deficits, current and future.

The Treasury and the FED see this. And that’s why they’re preparing to issue CBDCs. But not one for one, more like 1:100 dollars.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Wouldn’t it be simpler to reissue $1,000 and $5,000 Federal Reserve Notes?
And less bulky too!
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
We’ll see.
The
charges on debt are related to a cumulative figure; and since the multiplier
effects of debt expansion on income, the ingredient from which the charges must
inevitably be paid, is a non-cumulative figure, it would seem that the time
will inevitably arrive when further debt expansion is no longer a practical or
possible expedient, either to provide full employment or to keep debt charges
with tolerable limits
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
1 year ago
Unfortunately, the last remotely fiscally responsible president can’t hold office again – Bill Clinton. Tell me again how that tax cutting (Bush, Trump) magic is working again?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Wasn’t it Slick Willie that invented off-budget big time “borrowing” from Social Security?
Business Man
Business Man
1 year ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
It was the Republican congress of 1994 that drove that train. Clinton just saw the political winds and got on board.
jiminy
jiminy
1 year ago
Reply to  Business Man
But his administration complied. The truth remains that the Republicans are the kings of deficit. I don’t need to hear the lie again that tax cuts to Republican friends will balance the budget.
david halte
david halte
1 year ago
An example of distortion of reality.
Aug 31, 2022, Fox News reported White House suggests Biden’s $500B student loan handout will be paid for with deficit spending. Bharat Ramamurti, deputy director of the National Economic Council said: “It (tuition bailout) is paid for and far more by the amount of deficit reduction that we’re already on track for this year”. “We’re on track for $1.7T in deficit reduction this year. That means, practically speaking, compared to the previous year, $1.7T more dollars are coming into the Treasury than are going out. And we’re using a portion of that – a very small portion of it – to provide relief to middle class families, consistent with the President’s plan.”
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  david halte
I was planning on spending $4 trillion I didn’t have.
Now I’m going to spend only $2.3 trillion that I don’t have.
Obviously I have saved $1.7 trillion.
arnstein
arnstein
1 year ago
Hello Mish,
From your post:
The alleged fiscal year 2022 deficit is $1,375 trillion.
Please replace that comma (,) with a period (.). You are scaring me. A lot. Because I trust you.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
here is the way out of the debt problem. it’s called money printing(i mean using a computer cursor to add zeroes). it’s an age old technique of ruling class of all types of forms of governments. shadow stats lays out our brutal it is now. it’s inflation kids. forget the deflationary nonsense. it’s just wrong. SHADOWSTATS DAILY UPDATE –- November 22nd to 28th [Updated November 22nd, 11:00 p.m. ET -– IN THE NEWS: MONEY SUPPLY IS DRIVING THE SURGE IN INFLATION, DESPITE SOFTENING ANNUAL GROWTH: October 2022 “Basic M1” Money Supply (Currency plus Checking Accounts), held 120.3% above its Pre-Pandemic Trough, minimally off peak, also holding at a 52-year high level of systemic liquidity, having absorbed and held the equivalent of 23-years of normal Monetary Stimulus in the 2.8 years since the Pandemic Shutdown. Even the headline Aggregate Money Supply M2 has absorbed 14-years of normal stimulus. Given that extreme, inflation bloating cannot pass easily, without some meaningful reduction in Money Supply, well beyond just slowing money growth.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Shadow stats gets our means-of-payment money right, but it doesn’t use the right distributed lag effect. And it’s funny because Alan Blinder says supply shocks, esp., oil, determine inflation (over and above that of the money stock).
01/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.998
02/1/2022 ,,,,, 2.011 roc in M peak
03/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.633
04/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.382
05/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.320
06/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.231
07/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.195
08/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.280 roc in M*Vt peak
09/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.143
10/1/2022 ,,,,, 1.094
11/1/2022 ,,,,, 0.851
12/1/2022 ,,,,, 0.549
While money flows peaked in FEB, the “demand for money”, or its inverse velocity, fell. That continued to push prices up until August. And that is typical of a surge in money that is immediately followed by a rise in deposit turnover.

No money stock figure acting
alone is adequate as a guidepost for monetary policy. In Alfred Marshall’s
“Cash Balances Approach” (the demand for money), K = “the length of the period
over whose transactions purchasing power in the form of money is held”. K is
related to Vt; it is the reciprocal.
M2/Gross Domestic Product | FRED | St. Louis Fed (stlouisfed.org)
I.e., contrary to economists, it’s no happenstance that oil has fallen.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
the lag affect for coin clipping and various money printing schemes over many centuries can be anywhere from a year to 50 years out. i know you have no clue how long it will take this time. as nobody does. there is no magical formula.
Sunriver
Sunriver
1 year ago
I’ve got my $247,882 share of the federal debt! Can’t wait to pay my fair share!
Oh wait, I already owe more than that. I’ll put the extra amount due on my credit card. It’s the American way.
No way out.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
1 year ago
Reply to  Sunriver
Physical gold and silver is the only way out for the individual. Shhh. Don’t tell anyone. I am still stacking while it is so insanely cheap.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
IMHO, the debt bomb is within 10 years. It starts with higher-than-expected inflation, making it harder for the Fed to lower rates close to zero, controlling debt servicing costs. Then we have Medicare. The Part A (hospitals) Trust Fund goes belly up in 2026. Part B (doctors) funded by general revenue / borrowing was in the red $500B last year. The OASI SSTF is expected to go belly up in 2034. No one should be surprised if economic factors push this forward to at least 2032, less than 10 years out. Healthcare, housing, the transition away from oil to renewables are what will bankrupt America.
We’ve entered into a period of permanent $1.5T+ annual deficits. A potential recession next year will reduce tax revenues by $200-$300B, making matters worse. By the end of FY 2025, annual deficits will be $2T sustained. The Trump tax cuts will be renewed after 2025, ensuring less taxes revenue comes into the Treasury.
Since Sept 2008, America’s economic system has moved towards a Modern Monetary Theory-based approach to spending. The only part that’s missing is the tax requirement to remove excess inflation. What’s likely to happen is that Congress will be forced into passing legislation that targets the dying off of the baby boomers’ assets. There will be so much wealth transferred in the next 30 years, after what’s not soaked up by healthcare, that it will be primary source of covering annual deficits, leaving a lot less wealth for future generations.
Within 10 years, China will overtake the US as the economic superpower. It will leverage its growing influence around the world, including the western hemisphere, along with its CBDC to dislodge the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency within 15 years. This dislocation will primarily start with oil. The long-awaited GR v2.0 will ensure China’s fate as becoming the dominate, global economic superpower.
10 years or less is my prediction.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Economists haven’t learned to view the banks from a system’s context. E.g., #1 ” When deposits are
removed from the banks, the banks have less money to lend, and liquidity dries
up.”
Liquidity Dries Up | St. Louis Fed (stlouisfed.org)
Or #2 “But customers are
now finding better use for some of their cash than depositing it at the bank
and earning nearly no yield, while for example Treasury securities now pay over
4% across the board, and so they’ve pulled $433 billion in cash out of banks
since April.

Banks
have begun to fight back to stop this cash drain, and they now offer CDs –
usually brokered CDs that you can buy only through your broker, not the bank
itself – of 4% and more.”

The axiom is that savers never transfer their
savings outside the banks unless they hoard currency or convert to other
national currencies, e.g., FDI. There is just an exchange in the ownership of
pre-existing deposit liabilities in the banking system, a velocity relationship. The NBFIs are the DFI’s customers. And they keep large balances in their banking relationships.

Banks don’t lend deposits (from a system’s perspective). Deposits are the result of lending. Economists simply can’t differentiate
between an individual bank and the system. The equation, the capacity of a
single bank to create credit as a consequence of a given primary deposit (and
newly created deposits flow to other banks), is also applicable to a nonbank,
financial intermediaries. A bank: L = P
(1-d) & A nonbank: L = S (1-s)

But this comparison is superficial since
any expansion of credit by a commercial bank enlarges the money supply, enlarging
the system, whereas any extension of credit by an intermediary simply transfers
ownership of existing money within the system (a velocity relationship).

The impoundment of monetary savings shrinks gDp. Secular stagnation is a deceleration in the circuit income velocity of funds.
The
more alarming aspect of the federal deficits is not the effect on interest
rates but the effect of higher interest rates on the level of taxable income and
the volume of taxes required to service a cumulative debt now exceeding $31 trillion. Both higher interest rates and higher taxes induce stagflation, thus
eroding the tax base and increasing the volume of future deficits.
And it’s obvious that the burden of higher interest rates will be compounded.
The burden becomes a function of the major portion of the debt, not just the
current deficits. The burden, in fact, becomes exponential. In other words, if
the trend is not stopped, the debt inevitably has to be repudiated.
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
Money “owed” to trust funds like social security is essentially irrelevant. It’s a liability on the general fund balance but an equal amount asset to the trust fund. You can’t owe money to yourself, the real number is debt owed to the public.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  shamrock
It’s not irrelevant – It’s been spent
Future liabilities are irrelevant until they are spent on grounds they might not be spent
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Exactly. Sure, the Social Security can loan money to the government by buying bonds. That doesn’t matter at all….until Social Security needs the money back. Then the government needs to find someone to loan it money to cover current deficits, as well as money to enable it to pay back social security, to pay back those notes that “didn’t matter at all”.
Between now and 2036, the Social Security “Trust Fund” will need to sell all it’s bonds, i.e. to be repaid for all the money it has loaned to the government. Can the government borrow enough to fund current deficits, plus enough to fund prior deficits, without making long term rates go up dramatically? Stay tuned.
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
It’s a shell game. If the social security trust fund cashes in $1t in bonds to pay benefits then the general fund needs to borrow a $1t, which it then uses to pay down the debt owed to social security. The result is net $0 difference in the total debt, a $1t increase in debt owed to the public and a $1t decrease in the amount owed to social security. That’s why debt owed to the public is the important figure.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  shamrock
That’s total BS! You have zero idea of what you’re talking about. Taken direction from gao.gov:
“While intragovernmental debt essentially reflects money that the federal government owes to itself, Treasury must eventually repay the federal accounts that hold intragovernmental debt. Treasury typically does this by borrowing from the public, which in turn adds to federal debt held by the public.”
So over time, public debt rises to pay off the intragovernmental (owed itself) debt. So, let’s be very clear; it raises public debt which you very well know is what’s important. As such, the debt the government owes itself to run all sorts of programs like SS, etc is like an off the book debt that slowly creeps its way back into public debt. It’s the proverbial kicking the can down the road to the tune of tens of trillions of dollars.
MikeC711
MikeC711
1 year ago
This is the economic issue that might overshadow all other economic issues which you have covered so well. Partially because of its magnitude and partially because of its insolvability. Anyone who had a true plan to turn the deficit into a surplus and start paying down the debt would be unelectable. They would need to recommend at least a 50% increase in tax rates, fewer deductions, and more people paying taxes then now do. In addition they would need to slash entitlements beyond what anyone has ever proposed, close 80% of our military bases, disengage in any active conflicts, close embassies, and foreign aid, Etc. This person would not be touched by either party.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  MikeC711
Correct. No easy solution.
Which is why it is a complete waste of time to focus on bickering over which political party is worse.
Your time is far better spent on improving your own life. Whatever happened to taking personal responsibility for yourself? No political party or President is going to “save you”.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  MikeC711
The only party that actually wants to address deficit repayment is the Libertarian Party.
MikeC711
MikeC711
1 year ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Agreed, but would I generally see from the lp is self praise for not having regulations not limiting marriage and not prosecuting drugs. Well this is all fine, if a true LP took power, entitlements would vanish almost instantly and within an hour there would be violent riots in the streets. The lp has good ideas but hasn’t really come up with a way to deal with a society that has learned that being dependent pays well
paddy
paddy
1 year ago
in the years when ssa receipts exceeded outlays that skewed the deficit even though the ssa receipts were actually adding to the debt!
the headline federal deficits has always been cash in during the account period minus cash outlays.
other things adding to federal debt not associated with annual cash deficits: the two military retirement funds which are filled with special treasuries that were written in congress and involved no cash exchange, similar pluses to civilian retirement trusts….
and none of the trusts can pay out w/o increasing the annual deficit, which is why we find congress holding off on disbursing from the airways trust fund which is filled by a tax on airline tickets….
each november the gao publishes the audit of the federal debt which usually covered the just closed fiscal year. the latest for 2022 and 2021 is GAO-23-105586. a good read every november!
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
last time i checked my wallet, my benjamins don’t go very far anymore. less and less and less each year for my entire life. anyone thinking we don’t have massive inflation is really fooling themselves and falling for the scams of the ruling class. debt and printing of money is the same as the old fashioned clipping of coins the greeks did in siracusa, sicily long long ago.
Avery
Avery
1 year ago
Hi Mish.
Next time you are at a gathering:
First look to your left.
Got it?
Then look to your right.
Ok?
How many government stooge parasites (workers, contractors, favored industries and their spouses) do you see?
Similar to end of USSR, always greater than 1 out of 3.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery
If you include Federal, State, and Local government, plus education, and those getting government grants, it is over 50%. It’s too late to turn back now.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery
This is what so many don’t see or don’t want to see. They warn that “they” are out to get everyone else. But “they” live with you in the same neighborhoods, go to the same supermarkets, the same schools, etc.
Or as the famous Pogo comic strip character said:
“We have met the enemy, and he is us.”
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
1 year ago
“They all had the politics of horse thieves. He believed in the Republic as a form of government but the Republic would have to get rid of all of that bunch of horse thieves that brought it to the pass it was in when the rebellion started.
Was there ever a people whose leaders were as truly their enemies as
this one?”
― Ernest Hemingway, For Whom the Bell Tolls
phil
phil
1 year ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
not related, but I read A Moveable Feast over the holiday. He had a dim view of most people. Ezra Pound the exception. I found it a painful read, and I came to be afraid of the next paragraph. That said, I regret not reading it before. I’m a Francophile and I love Paris, and probably googled something mentioned in every page.
jhrodd
jhrodd
1 year ago
Reply to  phil
“Down and Out In London and Paris ” is also a good read (Orwell)
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
1 year ago
The government lies about everything. It’s there to enrich itself at the expense of others. Remember when S&P tried to downgrade treasuries? They got straightened out with a quickness! It should have mattered decades ago, but the masses are both financially illiterate and spineless. So this will go on until our benevolent overlords deem otherwise.
Eighthman
Eighthman
1 year ago
I have to ask if this set of facts are relevant within the rest of our lives. My reason is Japan – and the fact that they have gotten away with money printing for decades. They even had low inflation – perhaps because they are a (literally) dying nation demographically and that’s deflationary.
Jmurr
Jmurr
1 year ago
Reply to  Eighthman
Yes and they have had no real growth in 30 years. Not a fate we should emulate in my opinion.
paddy
paddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Eighthman
you are thinking of the modern monetary theory (mmt)that says: government an borrow and spend forever, until it cannot.
jpow seems to think mmt is a bad theory!
tedr
tedr
1 year ago
Great post. Especially the comments about Trump. So true.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
1 year ago
Thanks Mish , quite amazing that debt clock is ! ….. I already knew my lousy Belgium is far too endebted like most Europeans that were stupid enough to adopt the insane debt stimulating common currency , I dont quite understand though how a financially sound country like the Netherlands has got 458 % external debt, not to mention of course Irelands’ 612% ….Russia on the other hand (my country some will say) looks very VERY extremely financially healthy though, is that why we want to destroy it, carve it up, make it OURS ???
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Of course Russia look healthy, comrade! Is literally illegal to report otherwise!
And every Russian child get potato, every day! American Childs not always get potato!
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I like my potatoes baked, not half-baked.
I prefer butter to sour cream.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Going to war to loot a neighboring country to prop up your own decaying country goes back to the beginning of countries. So yes, you can make a case that the West is out to loot Russia to prop up their over-indebted butts just a little longer.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
That’ll work. Winner takes all in a war and it doesn’t look like Russia has any chance of winning.
Dr. Odyssey
Dr. Odyssey
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Russia Ops in Ukraine (Update): Western Propaganda Implodes as War of Attrition Grinds On.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
lol, Ukraine is on its fn knees ….soon to be on its belly ….
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Each of these now dead Russian conscripts had a mother and father. Now that family is broken forever. For what?
————-
Another 500 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine
SATURDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 2022, 09:33
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have killed 560 Russian soldiers over the past 24 hours.
Total combat losses of the Russian forces between 24 February and 26 November 2022 are estimated to be as follows [figures in parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.]:
approximately 86,710 (+560) military personnel;
2,901 (+2) tanks;
5,848 (+4) armoured combat vehicles;
1,896 (+1) artillery systems;
395 (+0) multiple-launch rocket systems;
209 (+0) air defence systems;
278 (+0) fixed-wing aircraft;
261 (+0) helicopters;
1,554 (+1) operational-tactical UAVs;
531 (+0) cruise missiles;
16 (+0) ships/boats;
4,406 (+2) vehicles and tankers;
163 (+0) special vehicles and other equipment.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
….any numbers about Ukrainian soldiers, whether fanatic Nazis or innocent conscripts, dying for NOTHING ?!
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
The Netherlands external debt is due to its outsize banking sector; the balance consists of assets (pension funds invested internationally) as well as liabilities.
See my later post on the Netherlands government finances compared to the US.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
It doesn’t matter which party is in power, or who is President. Large Annual Deficits and rising Debt Levels are a given. And there is nothing we can do about it; except recognize the reality. Yet so many here spend much of their time caught up in the political blame game.
All we can do as individuals is look after ourselves (and those we care about). Personally, I try to focus on increasing my wealth by investing. Thanks to Mish’s great blog and the scenario that was outlined almost 3 years ago now by some prophetic commenters, I have substantially increased my wealth. Thank you Mish!
In return, I have tried to help others focus on their investments, in my own small way.
I am still positive on oil and gas for the rest of this decade, though a good chunk of the gains are behind us. Fortunately, most oil stocks are still undervalued, and many still have a 50% to 100% upside, in addition to paying substantial dividends for the rest of this decade.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
US president Andrew Jackson did not like central banks.
In 1832 Jackson prevented the reissue of the charter of the Second Bank of the United States.
No central bank.
On January 8, 1835, Jackson retired the last of the interest bearing National debt.
The United States was free of National debt.
American politicians found it too “difficult” to manage an economy with only taxes and fees for revenue.
The borrowing began again and has never ceased.
PS: Oil and gas are good bets for the next decade. At least.
MarkraD
MarkraD
1 year ago
The debt problem is easily resolved by giving job creating tax cuts to wealthy people and corporations so they can invest in jobs in China, Mexico and India, as well as stock buybacks, which then trickles down, because that’s what wealthy campaign donors pay cherry-picked economists to tell us.
It’s a sad reality when people actually interested in running the country have no shot in hell of winning an election because those who benefit from the status quo will not fund their campaigns.
Get money out of politics, money isn’t “free speech”, it’s bribery…. the Constitution has something to say about bribery.
.
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vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
RAYGUNOMICS 101
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  MarkraD
“Get money out of politics, money isn’t “free speech”, it’s bribery…. the Constitution has something to say about bribery.”
The biggest campaign fund a politician has, is government spending. You can’t get money out of politics.
laprez
laprez
1 year ago
Someone said – “It don’t matter until it matters. But when it matters, it is going to matter a lot”. I think that covers the situation pretty well.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  laprez
It is traditional – slowly at first then all at once.
MIFE
MIFE
1 year ago
So I guess the “when will the deficits matter?” was rhetorical….
I have personally moved away from government debt…..struggling with what to do without taking too much portfolio risk, but don’t see a path here without governments defaulting, just a question of when and how I think
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  MIFE
It’s never wise to accept promises that clearly can’t be kept.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  MIFE
MIFE – Not to worry. The Government will print whatever heap of certificates needed to meet their promises. It remains to be seen if the certificates will have any practical or material value.

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