The Hope of Fusion vs the Pomp of Politicians and Climate Activists

There was an interesting trio of articles in the Wall Street Journal this week with seemingly conflicting messages.

Hold the Nuclear Fusion Hype

Headline Number One: Hold the Nuclear Fusion Hype

The breakthrough is exciting but its practical use as an energy source may be decades away.

What the experiment proved is that scientists can recreate the physical reactions in stars. But scaling the technology and making it commercially viable by most scientists’ accounts will likely take another few decades.

How Fusion Works and Why It’s a Breakthrough

Headline Number Two: How Fusion Works and Why It’s a Breakthrough

The Energy Department has announced the first gain in energy from fusion in a laboratory—the first time fusion reactions produced more energy than it took to induce them. Last week 192 laser beams at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory’s National Ignition Facility heated and compressed a capsule of hydrogen to previously unattainable temperatures and pressures, igniting fusion reactions that produced 50% more energy than the laser beams had delivered.

Nuclear-Fusion Breakthrough Accelerates Quest to Unlock Limitless Energy Source

This is the third headline and the article has the most details. The link below is a a free link. The article merits a close look and has some very interesting diagrams

Headline Number Three: Nuclear-Fusion Breakthrough Accelerates Quest to Unlock Limitless Energy Source

Experiment yields net-positive energy, a milestone in effort to develop nuclear fusion as a source of clean power.

Researchers said that shortly after 1 a.m. last Monday, they fired the largest laser in the world into a tiny cylinder holding a diamond capsule containing hydrogen isotopes. For a brief moment, the laser delivered energy that exceeds the entire U.S. power grid, in an attempt to compress the capsule’s fuel to reach densities, temperatures and pressures that are higher than the center of the sun. In the moments after the shot, the researchers weren’t sure what had happened.

“The shot goes off. It takes only a few billionths of a second, and so we need an exquisite suite of diagnostics to measure what happened,” said Alex Zylstra, the principal experimentalist on the project. “And as the data started to come in, we saw the first indications that we had produced more fusion energy than the laser input.”

It is premature to talk about building fusion power plants, said Gianluca Sarri, a professor of physics at Queen’s University Belfast who wasn’t involved in the new research. “There are technical issues that need to be solved still before it becomes an energy source,” he added. 

We are still not gaining electrical energy” Dr. Sarri said.

The lasers at the National Ignition Facility are less than 1% efficient, according to Jonathan Davies, a senior scientist at the University of Rochester’s Laboratory for Laser Energetics. The facility used hundreds of megajoules of electricity to produce the laser light needed to produce about 3 megajoules of fusion energy.

Same Thing, Different Lead Message

All three articles say the same thing inside, but the initial message looks vastly different. 

  • Hold the Hype
  • Fusion Breakthrough
  • Limitless Energy Source

The articles and headlines are accurate. They don’t really conflict, they just provide a different initial message. 

The details in the third article show the problems ahead. Scientists were successful but it took hundreds of megajoules of electricity to produce the laser light needed to produce about 3 megajoules of fusion energy.

Yet, I find it fascinating that scientists were able to produce temperatures as hot as the sun without anything melting or blowing up. 

The extreme temperatures and pressures—similar to those in the cores of stars and giant planets and in exploding nuclear weapons—triggered a fusion reaction. The hydrogen atoms combined to form helium, releasing a tremendous amount of energy at the same time. The Dec. 5 fusion reaction produced 3.15 megajoules of energy, a gain of about 1.5 times.

Pomp of Activists and Politicians

This weekend AOC’s climate change documentary earned only $80 per theater despite rave critic reviews.

OutKick reports AOC’s Clime Change Documentary Fails Hard

Film critics say the film titled “To the End” is splendid. It holds a 88% “fresh” critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. The doc has not yet generated an average rating from the audience.

But despite critics raving about AOC’s beauty and intelligence, moviegoers have shown no such interest in the film.

The documentary earned an average of just $81 per theater during its debut weekend. “To the End” sits atop no lists of box office successes.

A failure this great falls on par with the embarrassment that is Jemele Hill’s book sales. Per publishing data, Hill’s new self-purported journey in overcoming racism has sold just $5,034 copies after a month.

AOC, Hill, racial hysteria, and climate change propaganda play well on social media. The press loves those women and their “issues.” Yet most of the country does not care.

There’s minimal demand to buy a ticket to watch rich, privileged women stroll around and screech about climate change.

Totally Boring Trailer

If that’s not overwhelmingly boring, what is? 

The hype is constant and has been consistently wrong. The word did not end in the 10 years after which activists said it would.

The world will still be here in 2050. 

UN Seeks $4 to 6 Trillion Per Year to Address Climate

On October 29, I noted UN Seeks $4 to 6 Trillion Per Year to Address Climate

Current pledges for action by 2030, if delivered in full, would mean a rise in global heating of about 2.5C and catastrophic extreme weather around the world. A rise of 1C to date has caused climate disasters in countries from Pakistan to Puerto Rico.

What Would It Cost?

Hooray! Only $4 trillion to 6 trillion per year.

A global transformation from a heavily fossil fuel- and unsustainable land use-dependent economy to a low-carbon economy is expected to require investments of at least US$4–6 trillion a year,” stated the UN report (page 26 of 132).

Q: US$4–6 trillion a year for how many years?
A: Based on figure ES.6 (lead chart) least eight years.

Q: What Percent of GDP?
A: 4 to 9 percent for developing countries, and 2 to 4 percent for developed countries.

And developing countries will gladly fork over up to 9 percent of GDP every year for eight years.

Yeah, right.

Meanwhile, the EU is burning more trees and coal. Burning trees is magically deemed environmentally neutral. 

What a hoot.

Exploring the Massive Clean Energy Boondoggle of Burning Trees as Carbon Neutral

Please consider Exploring the Massive Clean Energy Boondoggle of Burning Trees as Carbon Neutral

To the shock of everyone with any semblance of common sense, we are clearcutting forests and burning the trees based on the idea the process is carbon neutral.

Meanwhile, President Biden is sucking up to Venezuela so that it will pump more oil. Note that Venezuela’s oil is sour, loaded with sulphur.

For details, please see President Biden Makes Oil Overtures to Venezuelan Dictator Nicolás Maduro

Hypocrisy, You Bet

https://twitter.com/LynneMcCarthy/status/1594226829673611264

President Biden, the UN, and the Climate Lobby Seek to Spread More Fossil Fuel Misery

Also consider President Biden, the UN, and the Climate Lobby Seek to Spread More Fossil Fuel Misery

Team Biden in Action

On November 12, president Biden’s climate ambassador, John Kerry, made this statement:

It’s a well-known fact that the United States and many other countries will not establish…some sort of legal structure that is tied to compensation or liability. That’s just not happening.” 

Guess What Happened 

In case you are wondering about the Secretary-General’s statement regarding a loss and damage fund, John Kerry signed up for it at the conference.

What about solar energy roof tiles?

I am glad you asked. President Biden is more concerned over a couple hundred manufacturing than promoting solar energy. Tariffs have driven up the costs that few want to install the roof tiles. 

Where we will get the metals for batteries and how we get clean energy from the desert to Chicago cheaply are both mysteries. The attempt adds to inflation. 

And China is going gangbusters building coal-powered electricity plants.

Reparations, bribes, inept tariff policies, sucking up to Venezuela, and mandating policies that are not close to being ready are all part of the Biden-AOC-Warren packages.

Hype or not, fusion is a far better bet on fixing the problem than the misguided stupidity of politicians and activists. 

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wmjack50
wmjack50
3 years ago
No one has died from a fission power plant in the USA –not so with all other sources of energy—yet our Administrative State in DC makes construction very expensive and red tapped to death. Yucca Mountain is ready for waste but again the Feds don’t want it used.
THE corruption we have been subjected to is amazing —gobs of propaganda is produced regarding Fission— and now Fusion
which is decades to never successful will receive money to study—Another Democrat Administrative State graft and bribe ploy along with Climate Change BS
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
There is no way to predict whether fusion will ever provide a return on investment.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
I don’t want to completely dismiss what was done. It’s necessary for fusion to work. But, it’s far from sufficient.
Much of science is creating headlines that will help scientists get more grant money. Global warming is a perfect example of this. You have scientists who may or may not understand how global warming works giving information to journalists who rarely understand how it works, who write articles for people who clearly have no idea how it works.
And everyone thinks they’re experts.
Fourthhorseman
Fourthhorseman
3 years ago
We have Fission. It works. All the time. The same people that are lying by telling us RE will fix climate change we don’t impact, are the same ones that told us Fission was the answer 70 years ago.
Why does anyone that IS NOT mentally deficient believe them again?
Especially since they are now touting Fussion which they have for 70 years. They told us Hydrogen was the answer too, remember?
This is where the phrase “Those that do not study history are doomed to repeat it’s mistakes” comes from.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Fourthhorseman
“Those that do not study history are doomed to repeat it’s mistakes”
Some of those who study history, repeat those mistakes, in order to take personal advantage of them. It isn’t that the history isn’t known. The FED fueled multiple asset bubbles, one directly after the other.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Some of today’s popular Government/MSM tropes, all of which are completely untrue:
– we’re in a Climate Crisis and we caused it
– renewable energy works
– fusion energy is just around the corner
– self-driving cars are just around the corner
– Ukraine is winning
– Jan 6 was an attempted coup
– men can give birth
– US elections are fair
We live in a time of extreme delusion. I don’t know how it will end, but I think it will end badly. Probably a global nuclear war. Your last thought before your brain evaporates will probably be, “So Putin really wasn’t bluffing”
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
I wouldn’t believe a word of these latest claims unless and until their experiments have been successfully reproduced by others. Remember Pons and Fleischmann? (US/UK scientists Pons and Fleischmann claimed they had created net energy production from nuclear fusion back in 1989, but it turned out to be complete BS)
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Robert Zurbin, The Case for Space
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
I tried to post a comment, but it was refused by the moderator . So I will try to break it down into individual paragraphs below, until I can figure out what exactly is offensive.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

“If there is a climate problem, science will find the answer, not politicians or activists.”

I find this statement odd.

8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
The problem is that oil and NG in prices that consumers can afford are diminishing. The easy to extract is gone. There are few more
years to go, but it’s a blip in history. Gail Tverberg.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
All true. The days of low priced fossil fuels is likely over. The price will keep creeping up, but the question will be how quickly. If not too fast, then it will take time for demand to decline quickly.
I remember Realist suggested the price of oil would likely go up about $10/bbl each year, on average. I believe he suggested an average of $90 in 2022 and $100 in 23, $110 in 24 etc, though I stand to be corrected by those with better memories.
This seems to be a likely path for oil prices till the world can actually build out enough renewable sources to begin to replace oil. So far, we can’t even build enough renewables to meet growing energy demand each year.
Till then, oil and gas companies stand to benefit tremendously from these higher prices. Companies like CNQ have decades of reserves and breakeven levels around $30/bbl. It is generating around $7B per year in free cash flow. CNQ is buying back shares and paying down debt, while paying a 4.5% dividend. Its net debt dropped from $20B in 2020 to $16B in 2021, to 12 B this year. They have a market cap of about $75B. Once net debt reaches their target of $8B near the end of 2023, they plan on directing 80% to 100% of FCF to shareholders.
Dr Funkenstein
Dr Funkenstein
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
People were saying the days of cheap fossil fuels were over in 1861…18 months after Drake drilled his first well in Pennsylvania. They revive this scare, always telling us it’s 10 or 20 years away. No doubt these are the same scientists that say Covid vaccines are safe and effective (neither) and my mask protects you and your mask protects me (not what the box says). Right up there with the 52 experts that said Hunter Biden’s laptop was Russian disinformation or Husseins WMD.
Globaloney warming Brought to you by the people who a couple decades who said we were on the verge of a new ice age, who have mega mansions on oceanfront property and who fly in private jets.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Dr Funkenstein
Well then, thank goodness we have you to straighten it all out for us.
Oil is going to keep getting cheaper. Global warming is a hoax. Vaccines are a scam. Huffing bleach will cure you. And the world is actually flat.
Got it. Thanks Dr. Fuckenstein.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

First : Scientists are already telling us there “IS” a climate problem. There is no “IF”. And you seem to put a lot of faith in science to solve this problem, yet you don’t seem to have faith in science when it tells you that the problem even exists. How do you reconcile that?

Crispin
Crispin
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Surprisingly, the scientists telling us “there is a climate problem are all getting grants to “continue to look into it” – read any of their publications, at all, near the end. You get and they give what you pay for, unsurprisingly.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Crispin
You often do get what you pay for.
Back when scientists who were investigating the effects of cigarette smoking on humans, published their reports, there were plenty of folks who said the same thing that you just said. “Cigarettes aren’t really bad for you. But the scientists are being paid to tell us that.”
Meanwhile, a few corrupt scientists, got paid a crap load of money by the cigarette companies, to try to discredit the legitimate scientists. And people like you, would rather listen to the corrupt scientist and crap on the legitimate scientists.
So you are right. If you pay enough money, you can probably find a few scientists who will try to discredit the legitimate scientists, who are warning us about global warming and climate change, just like the ones who warmed us about cigarette smoking. Funny how some things repeat.
However, I am not here to crusade for climate scientists. Unlike you, I merely accept that they are correct.
I am here because I am trying to make a crap load of money myself. Not by publishing scientific reports, but because I am heavily investing in oil and gas stocks.
As an individual, I can’t do anything to stop global warming, but I can try to figure out how to profit from it. And right now, oil and gas stocks are gushing cash flow.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
This time the corrupt scientists are the ones claiming (without evidence) that there is a climate crisis. They are all on the gravy train, with enormous grants, conferences in beautiful resorts around the world, first class flights, the finest dining, etc. Fully bought and paid for.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
Lol! Believe whatever cult conspiracy theory you want. Doesn’t matter to me. Just don’t expect me to join you. I can’t be bothered with you cult members.
Are you still smoking?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“….a lot of faith in science to solve this problem, yet you don’t seem to have faith in science when it tells you that the problem even exists. How do you reconcile that?”
Science is a process. It’s how focused problems beyond trivial complexity are solved.
“Science” doesn’t “tell” anyone anything. Guys on the make do.
These days, anyone and his retarded uncle get to label himself/herself/itself a “scientist.” It means nothing anymore. As in nothing at all.
No “scientist” of any value, will ever claim that ‘science” “tells us” we have “a problem.” Some/many may say many, or even most, models incorporating much of currently accepted/believed understanding of how the earth’s climate works, indicate that there is a high probability that the earth’s average surface temperature is a few degrees higher than it would have been if fossil fuels had remained underground undiscovered. Very different.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Second: Scientists have been working on the many climate problems and answers for decades. But there is no single “answer”. There are literally many thousands of answers that science is working on. And almost all these answers are going to cost a lot. In fact, they cost so much, that most people, including you Mish (and me), balk at these costs, because we don’t want to pay them.

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Third: Scientists can tell us what the problems are, and they can tell us what the solutions are, but they are powerless to get us to pay attention to them, or to act. Currently, some decision makers in the world are completely ignoring the scientists. Other decision makers are listening, and paying lip service to scientists, but not really acting much on the proposed solutions. Scientists are NOT the ones who will solve the problem, because they have no power to do so. All they can do is keep working on their scientific research that helps to identify the problems and identify the solutions. It will take a lot of spending by governments and companies to actually implement these solutions.

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Net result: Due to our continued inaction, I expect the climate problem to keep getting worse until the costs to the world’s economies far exceeds the costs of fixing the problem.

worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Or until the CCP “accidentally” releases their SARS + MERS super virus that has a 30-50% IFR. Nature, or man-made gain of function research, will take care of the rest. Overpopulation is the REAL root cause of everything. Sometime in the next 5 years, the NIF could somehow achieve a Q of 100 and then 1000, but this technological advancement will do nothing to stop deforestation which is a major contributor to climate change. And, CO2 remains in the atmosphere for 300-1000 years.
Agreed! Don’t sell your energy stocks, at least not yet. We’ve got lots of fossil fuels left to burn. Hell, we might even find the need to start harvesting methane hydrates from the sea floor. Who knows?
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe

Lol! You think China deliberately released covid?

How is that working out for them so far? They finally had to give up on locking down their own citizens for the last few years due to economic contraction and riots. And since their home grown vaccines were so ineffective, their hospitals will soon be overrun.
Maybe they will think twice now before “releasing” something else.
Or do you think that China is trying to do the world a favor by killing off its own population? After all, they do have 1/6 of the world’s population. That’s very nice of them.
Regarding CO2. Yes. It stays in the atmosphere a long time. And we keep adding a lot more of it to the atmosphere every year. Because we are going to keep using fossil fuels for a long time. Though eventually, they will get so expensive that renewables will eventually replace them. However, thats more than a decade away, and in the meantime, I intend to cash in on oil company profits.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“And since their home grown vaccines were so ineffective, their hospitals will soon be overrun.”
Not if they utilize the Fareed/Tyson Covid early treatment protocol. Dr. Birx said in her book, that she knew before they were rolled out, that the Covid shots the U.S. government promoted, didn’t work. If you look up the absolute risk reduction number from the vax trials, you will see that the mRNA shots reduced it by just 1%. That is negligible reduction. This number was not reported to the public. Only the relative risk reduction, expressed as efficacy, was.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Lol! Why don’t you pay China a visit then and explain it all to them? I am sure they will want to hear all about it.
Because I certainly don’t care about your cult beliefs.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Climate has always been a problem, so how can it be fixed? The Southwestern United States is a desert. It has been a desert since before the Spanish arrived, hundreds of years ago. Mulholland had to import water into Los Angles, in order to support planned population growth. Some 10 million people live in L.A. County, now. Climate was always a problem where i grew up. It was always frigid during the winter.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

And finally: The demand for energy is still growing worldwide. And since we are not yet building enough renewable energy to satisfy this increasing demand, that means we will need more fossil fuels, including oil and gas, for many years to come. Yet oil and gas companies have not been making the necessary investments for almost a decade now that would provide the needed future supply. Which means that long term upward pressure on oil and gas prices will continue as we move through the rest of this decade.

Which is why I remain heavily invested in oil and gas companies.

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Interesting. No problem after breaking it down into separate sections.
Mouse
Mouse
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
papaDave thinks he can repeat the same tired, discredited eco-terrorist propaganda over and over and over and over.
Got news for ya Dave — most of us didn’t even bother to read all the cr@p you spent so much time typing.
If I have to choose between your dribble while my kids freeze at home — or lighting up my fossil fuel furnace? Its not a question. Up yours
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
The facility used hundreds of megajoules of electricity to produce
the laser light needed to produce about 3 megajoules of fusion energy.
Wow that line makes me skeptical that they even achieved positive fusion, probably an error in measurement or calculation.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
H3 is not available on earth. Ilan wants to extract it far away. // Sid Ball and Dick Engel did molten salt mini in Oakridge TN, from the late 50’s until 1971. Dr Schlesinger advised Nixon to cut them in favor of Hanford WA, to create job. Fifty years of know how were lost. China got the talent and the funds. China will export minis to third world countries and dominate climate change. // Utube : Kirk Sorensen, Dick Engel, Sid Ball from 10 years ago.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Silly. You can’t make decent cost-effective bomb materials with a molten salt reactor.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
ITER is the world’s biggest science experiment and has been designed to reach a Q factor of 10, producing 500 megawatts of fusion power from 50 megawatts of injected power. The DoE says ITER will cost $65B using magnetic confinement in a torus device which is very different from what NIF is doing with its 192 lasers. With a Q value of 1.5, they’ve got a long way to go to reach Q=10 much less 100, 1000, etc.
Is it worth it all? Yes and no. Had the US started deploying thorium-based molten salt reactors 10 years ago using its part of the $65B, we’d be much further ahead with building a grid that was ready for the move to EVs and setting the stage for eliminating coal power plants much sooner than most would have expected.
We won’t have a working SMR before 2028, and even then it will take another 5-7 years to get beyond the demonstration stage with actual commercial plants connected to the grid.
Mouse
Mouse
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Promises, promises…. empty promises.
Academia does not have the likes of Einstein and Fermi and Oppenheimer anymore. Instead, we have a bunch of woke, whiny babies with tenure.
Even if we somehow located an actual scientist among the political activists, all the money allocated to eco-fraud gets diverted to fancy parties for college faculty and fancy parties for corrupt politicians.
Please stop promising something you will not, and cannot deliver
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
I agree. Nuclear technology has progressed a lot since the 60s, which is the technology level used in almost all current nuclear plants. We can build plants that are incapable of melting down and produce little nuclear waste. It’s a PR problem. Not a science problem.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
The NIF is not designed to learn how to produce usable energy from fusion.
The NIF was designed and built to avoid violating the nuclear test ban treaty while continuing to research little devices that release tremendous amounts of energy in a small space and a very, very, very, very short amount of time. Practical production of electricity for the grid was never a consideration. But you have to justify spending immense sums of Government money somehow.
Mouse
Mouse
3 years ago
It took 112 megajoules to power the lasers that fired 3 megajoules of energy at the fuel target (which took lots of megajoules to create). And they got 3.15 megajoules out. 200 some-odd megajoules in, slightly over 3 megajoules out.
Only a group of corrupt politicians could possibly do that math and conclude it was a net energy gain. These are the same people who run $2 trillion spending deficits and complain it is austerity. Math just ain’t their thing.
The Biden regime was quick to tie this deficit energy fiasco to their ESG / climate change initiatives. See? A research project that has been dragging on since the 1960s is still not getting anywhere under Biden. The energy secretary even flew a fossil fuel powered gulfstream jet to the lab in California (a cross continent flight, each way) to appear at the press conference. This clown show was actually less damaging to the environment than Paris accord or COP 27.
We all know what ESG and climate conferences are. Dozens of politicians and billionaires fly into a fancy 5-star resort on fossil fuel powered private jets. They transfer into diesel powered armored limousines with V-12 truck engines. They are accompanied by staff / entourage in a half dozen SUVs, and escorted by 10-20 security vehicles. Except for POTUS who has a dozen entourage SUVs, plus a mobile hospital in an 18 wheeler, plus a satellite communications truck, plus 30-40 security vehicles and countless special forces guys pre-positioned along the route. Each one attendee to a climate conference entails 40-50 fossil fuel powered vehicles or more.
So a parade of V12 powered limos, support staff/entourages, security apparatus etc etc , all converge on a 5 star resort. Thousands of police guard the resort on motorcycles and still more SUVs. In most countries, the local police are supplemented by hundreds of fuel guzzling military vehicles. The resort is temperature controlled, both heating and cooling. Usually a solar array is set up in front of the press, even though the golf carts are actually charged off the local electric grid. The ESG climateers eat 5-star meals of cow-farting beef and over-fished lobster, prepared by multiple chefs. The liquor bill runs into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. The bill for countless prostitutes is usually rung up separate, but it runs into the millions.
And after several days of partying– I mean negotiating– these crooks decree that the masses must be forced to ride their bicycles to work, house their families in the dark with no heat, and they should eat insects to limit the effects of cattle and farming.
ESG is a political fraud.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Mouse
Well so? Muh climate change. What are you? A Nazi? Don’t you know the world will end if we don’t make Al Gore trillions on his carbon cap exchange? Just get back on your bicycle and stop questioning your betters. That’s the problem with you whippersnappers, you think you can think for yourself. Well, let me tell you…………
Corvinus
Corvinus
3 years ago
The whole thing lost more than 99% of the energy used to create the reaction. Fusion has been decades away since the 50s – what they did was hardly a breakthrough. Probably this is just the NIF making a gee-whiz statement to preserve the funding for yet another big government boondoggle. At this rate we’ll get a working fusion plant in about 500 years.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
I wonder why these side projects, while pouring huge amounts and energy into the fusion reactor at Cadarache?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Build Better Bombs
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
In the meantime generously overpaid scientific racketeers will come up with anything in order to comply with the deluded ,insanely overpaid, ‘new’ energy scheme, imposed by the corrupt climate change mafia ! LOL, unless some well meaning ETs (not like the mfrs we enjoy for conflictive,pocketlining morons here ) land and come up with something unearthly revolutionary, our overpopulated , halfdestroyed , climate change affected planet is nearing its fn end , well, not exactly the planet itself but its human self destructive idiots rather …..the near future will show …..
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Hello Putin or Brussels or whatever you are calling yourself today.
Understand why you are so frustrated – since things not going well for you.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
What exactly is not goin well for me ?? If I may ask …..oh ….you mean Ukraine ? As far as I know Ukraine is on its fn knees if not on its fn belly ….Lets hope or even pray Russia ‘wins’ ….for ONE thing is guaranteed within the insane US provoked context : RUSSIA WILL NEVER ‘LOSE’ ! ….if you know what I mean …
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
Someone steal potato from him. Now he have no potato, you see?
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Too bad the scientists didn’t capture the produced energy to boil a coffee.
That’s not a joke, but the hart of the matter.
Even if the process can be permanently sustained, the plan is still to boil water, to produce steam, to turn a magnet.
Think about it, is this the best the top scientists can do?
Corvinus
Corvinus
3 years ago
there are a number of independent fusion projects – at least one of them involves a reaction to produce electrical power directly – check out focusfusion.org if interested.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
For the best state certified ones; yes. They get the funding because they let the state tell them what to think. That’s how you get things done in this world; don’t you know anything?
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Somewhere in the far future, we might be able to tap into quantum space and extract unlimited energy directly from there. Or at least this is what some SF books say might be possible. Give it time. Remember, we have only had electricity in homes since the late 19th century!
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
That is why the US Patent Office keeps all the perpetual motion machine patents secret, like the nuclear patents in WWII.
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
3 years ago
The Earth has been warming since the last Ice Age. They taught us that in middle school. That has now been banned.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FlyNavy1
We are still in the Ice Ages and more importantly in an warm interstadial stage that is already overdue for a downturn back into the icebox.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
One could make a plausible argument that without higher CO2 levels, glaciers would be growing. Which would be far worse than what we’re currently experiencing.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
More and more people start dying as the temperature goes up.
Without heat every single person dies when the temperature goes to zero Celsius.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
We will evolve to grow fur.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
The byproduct of fusion is helium which if produced in quantity and let into the atmosphere would cause everyone to sound like this:
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
We would have extra Helium-3 then, which can also power fusion reactors. With even more power, we could fuse helium into lithium and eliminate battery shortages! lol
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Right!!
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Lithium will shortly be a dead end technology. Too expensive. It will be replaced with sodium and eventually aluminum.
Roy
Roy
3 years ago
Hello Mish.
I will submit an answer to your amazement:
“Yet, I find it fascinating that scientists were able to produce temperatures as hot as the sun without anything melting or blowing up.”
There is nothing in the articles I have seen that indicate that nothing blew up or melted. There are no reports of anyone injured or killed, so that is something.
A key to understanding this is to ask the question: At what rate can this experiment be repeated? Once an hour? Once a day? Once a week? Once a month? Once a year? You get the picture. If this experiment can be set up and repeated at an hourly rate, that is really significant. Once a year with another $10M in funding is significantly less impressive. Still impressive, but not as impressive.
Since this is primarily a site about money and investments, you should note when the articles started appearing – during federal budget decision time. I’m not disparaging the achievement here, just pointing out the timing.
In regards to the “climate emergency,” which is entirely about money and power, I would contend that the agriculture industry can handle the forecast global temperature changes unless the world bureaucracy prevents it. There would be no life on the planet today if the flora and fauna of the world were not capable of handling the miniscule changes predicted. (And there is no evidence that said predictions are accurate.)
I have read numerous papers of scientific inquiry. Almost 100% of them conclude that the phenomenon being studied is important and that more funding is needed.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
This first fission reaction was instantaneous.
Making it a controlled and continuous reaction to generate electricity took more effort.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
I too wonder how they kept something as hot as the inside of a star from burning anything; but I would sure like to get some of whatever it is that they used to make that happen. Cuz then my doctor might allow me to play with matches again. I like playing with matches.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
The NIF could currently fire a maximum of 2 or 3 shots a day, but they don’t.
Much like good $ex it takes time to recharge.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Will Lockett
Aug 22, 2022
TAE’s Mad Fusion Reactor Might Just Work
Their completely unique approach to fusion could finally unlock this planet-saving technology.
Humanity has been chasing fusion power for decades. This revolutionary energy source could supply us with copious amounts of on-tap, planet-saving clean energy with practically no radioactive waste. But try as we might, this technology has remained elusive. Maybe an entirely new approach is needed. Well, that is what TAE believes, and their radical reactor design is unlike anything else. So, will this new direction yield results? Or is it a dead end?
Before we dive into TAE’s unique reactor, we first need to do the obligatory explanation of fusion to get us all up to scratch.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Gigantic, 70-Foot Nuclear Fusion Gun Could Change the World
10/28/22 AT 4:59 AM EDT
On a quiet industrial estate in England, the silence is occasionally broken by the thump of a 72-foot-long gun. At the end of the barrel, a star is born.
The Big Friendly Gun (BFG) is a prototype for what U.K.-based nuclear fusion company First Light Fusion hopes will be the future of energy production.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Too many don’t understand that the work being done at Livermore’s NIF is not exclusive and we don’t have to wait for Livermore, like NASA, to SLOWLY reach their goal. Also, the NIF is more concerned with technology for nuclear weapons, not commercial fusion power.
Whole countries, many start-up’s across the whole world and tens of thousands of researchers are working on developing the technology to enable commercial fusion energy.
At least a couple of companies have said that they will have a working fusion reactor by 2030, just 8 years away. China has said the same thing. These will still be small test reactors but it is entirely possible that a commercial fusion reactor will show up by 2040.
National Geographic did a story on nuclear fusion a few months back:
Many scientists see fusion as the future of energy – and they’re betting big.
A clean, plentiful fuel so efficient Earth’s entire annual supply could fit in a swimming pool. That’s the dream, but the science is there, too.
Published 4 Oct 2022
ALSO
Here is a list of a 14 start-up companies working on fusion and some are taking different approaches from what NIF is doing.
Top 14 Fusion Energy startups
Last updated: August 30, 2022
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
It’s one thing to have a nuclear reactor. It’s quite another to have one that produces several times more energy than what was required to produce it using a real closed system. Not one that ignores 99% of the energy inputs.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Free energy from fusion would make trashing the planet 100x worse. We would have factories running 24×7 producing plastic crap and shipping them all over the world. People would be traveling non-stop too. Look at what happens when a cruise ship full of 5000 people hits Amsterdam or any of the big city “tour” stops. The city gets trashed and locals are left to pick it up. Imagine 1000 more cruise ships because they are cheap to make with nearly free energy docking at every major city dumping thousands of people.
Many cities now limit cruise ships because of this but they just shift ports to other cities. Imagine the traffic problem when you have unlimited fuel to drive around anywhere and it’s already horrible. How about trucking? How many big rigs on the road with free energy? More rail cars? More airplanes? Why not, its free!
The thing limiting people right now is the high cost of energy and if that goes away, forget climate change, kiss the planet goodbye as you’re buried under tons of trash.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
So wealth is “bad” and “poverty” is good? Could we say that “wealth” is good as long as it is limited to a small number of people and that that number would not be big enough to harm the planet and keep local cultures quaint and authentic?
Roy
Roy
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
My, what an uplifting viewpoint!
I’ll take a somewhat different position. Less expensive (certainly not free) energy will make trash recycling much less costly. We might even be seeing a reduction in plastics pollution.
As far as the tourists trashing the cities around ports – Are you absolutely certain? Is it possible that the areas are being trashed by those city’s own impoverished people trying to scrounge a living from the tourists? I don’t know.
Maybe if more people joined Arlo Guthrie in his Alice’s restaurant tale, there would be less trashing of the countryside. Also, if trash disposal due to cheap energy was far less expensive, there would be far less trash disposed of improperly. Just a thought.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
Why recycle if there is no profit in it and energy is free? It is cheaper now to just continue to manufacture new, trash the planet, then repeat the cycle. How many millions of K-cups and yogurt plastic cups are floating in the ocean now? Why bother recycling when you can just make more with cheap energy?
tractionengine
tractionengine
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
The biggest advances in human society and wealth have been on the foundation of newly discovered forms of cheaper and denser energy. Nothing first, gave way to wood, wood to coal, coal to oil, oil to nuclear if the greens hadn’t got involved. You really think fusion will bring on the end of time?
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  tractionengine
Are you living under a rock? Do you not see how much the planet has been trashed since the invention of cheaper energies? from wood, to coal to oil to nuclear? You actually answered your own question. Look up Yucca mountain and tell me what the future holds. Rest assured, people will use free energy to attempt to dominate thru war, oppression or slavery. the problem was never energy, there is limitless that comes from the sun, the problem has been human behavior.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
The only reason YM was needed was because pin head Carter signed legislation banning nuclear fuel reprocessing. France, UK & Japan all reprocess their spent nuclear fuel. Had 3 Mile Island never happened, we would be living in a very different (hint: better) US, at least in terms of energy. The point you’re making isn’t the fault of energy density but, rather, population growth. You’re incorrectly conflating the two.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
The truth is that population and energy are very tightly bound.
The more energy there is, the more food you get. The more food you get, the more population you get. This happens every where in nature, not just with humans.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Yes, it is about heat and thermodynamics.
Imagine a finite Earth capable of dissipating a finite amount of heat (only slightly modified by atmospheric greenhouse gases).
Imagine that planet raising it’s temperature by oxidizing fossil fuels and the amount of heat generated.
Now imagine how much more heat will be released by utilizing fission/fusion to provide heat.
MPO45 has it right.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Plastic requires more than energy.
Everything you name will run into the limits of available material
Esclaro
Esclaro
3 years ago
Science? Come on, this is AmeriKKKa. We hate science or anything that makes us think. We want our guns and religion and live in the 15th century. White supremacy forever.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Esclaro
The FDA sanctioned trials on Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine were rigged to fail. The people claiming to follow the science did something very anti-science, in order to promote their agenda.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
One fusion roadblock cleared, and only 19 more to overcome. Look at it this way — net fusion energy release has been around for 70 years in nuclear weapons, and it only took 70 years to reproduce in the laboratory setting.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
The recent fusion experiment from the NIF depends on lasers and mirrors. This is not an approach that will likely work in commercial plants. The NIF is not really involved in fusion for the energy output but for nuclear weapons.
There are numerous other approaches to fusion power (such as magnetic containment) that are being investigated by many other companies and countries.
dbannist
dbannist
3 years ago
Good article, except for the denial that trees are not carbon neutral. They actually are, very much so. Trees regrow. Coal seams do not. Any coal that is burned permanently adds to atmospheric carbon. Trees do not. They release carbon when burned but then reabsorb them when the trees regrow.

Since the USA is rapidly regrowing more forests than it cuts down every year because of the financial incentives to grow forests and harvest them, trees in the USA is absolutely carbon neutral. IN fact, they are more than carbon neutral, they are absorbing more carbon than is burned. WIth trees at least, capitalism is helping the problem of atmospheric carbon.

Siliconguy
Siliconguy
3 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
The tree is carbon neutral, the diesel to harvest, haul, chip, and pelletize them is not. Then you load the pellets onto an oil-burning ship for the trip to Europe.
dbannist
dbannist
3 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
I don’t do that.

I go into my backyard, break some trees apart with an axe, and load them into my fireplace. Completely oil free wood. I don’t even use a chainsaw much, just get them for free.

Currently, my county takes all wood byproducts from tree service companies, and runs them into an energy hog wood chipper and tosses them in the forest. They are going to produce carbon no matter what. By turning that wood into firewood, you are actually preventing the use of oil to heat homes that otherwise would be used.

Yes, if you pelletize the wood and ship it across the world it’s not carbon nuetral, but that’s not what most people do with wood. Wood absolutely can be carbon neutral, and the way MOST people use wood, it truly is carbon neutral

FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
3 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
A tree releases the exact same amount of carbon whether it is burned or lies rotting on the forest floor.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  FlyNavy1
The tree is carbon neutral, the diesel to harvest, haul, chip, and pelletize them is not. Then you load the pellets onto an oil-burning ship for the trip to Europe.
Yes, and to top it off there is a big dispute
This past February, 65 scientists, many from major universities, penned a letter to Senate leaders warning that the carbon-neutral label would encourage deforestation and drive up greenhouse gas emissions. But a month later, more than 100 scientists took the opposite view in a letter to EPA, stating that “the carbon benefits of sustainable forest biomass energy are well established.
“We see this biomass industry as one of the biggest threats, if not the biggest threat, to these forests. ADAM MACON, ROANOKE RIVER NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE”
Macon fears that if demand for wood pellets keeps growing, it will create yet another incentive for landowners to log relatively diverse hardwood forests—which already account for approximately a quarter of the pellets coming from the South—and convert them into less diverse but faster growing pine plantations.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I live in a county in which those tree farms are everywhere. Beyond all that carbon b.s., walking through miles of woods with only one kind of tree is boring. Also, the trees are genetically modified to grow faster. Because everyone wants the tree rings to spread out a bit. It wouldn’t be useless if they didn’t do that. And that wouldn’t be profitable.
dbannist
dbannist
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I’m all for reducing oil dependence.Wood waste is just one of many ways to reduce the load. If one goes out and cuts entire forests down and never replaces them, then yes, that’s terrible. However, that’s not what is happening anywhere in the industrialized world. In fact, there are more forests today and more trees in industrialized countries than there were 100 years ago, despite heavy need for wood. Yes, some of that has been sourced from 3rd world countries, but by and large, forests are growing nearly everywhere except portions of Africa and South America….due to capitalism efforts to produce wood at a profit.

Wood as a fuel source will absolutely be carbon neutral if managed correctly. You aren’t going to save money on your fuel costs using pelletized wood and there are actually very very few people that do that. Using the rare use of wood and making a case that that’s what everyone does is a logical fallacy.

People who burn wood that would otherwise be wasted is 100% carbon neutral, and that’s what is being encouraged in Germany and other places at the moment. They are trying to be smart in reducing the need for Russian oil by reducing waste in other ways.

All wood that is wasted produces the exact same amount of carbon whether it rots in the forest or whether it’s burned in a fireplace.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Dueling Scientists should be a prime time television show.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Fusion is not for tomorrow but the recent experiment is a good step in the right direction. Till now net positive energy production was not possible but now it is. That could mean an acceleration of results in coming years since that big barrier has been overcome. Nevertheless we have many more years before even thinking of making fusion a commercial reality.
As for AOC and the documentary that failed miserably I think it foretells that the hysteric mood of the ecologist movement is failing to convince people. We see this in Europe where even the ecologists are accepting fossil fuels as a necessity to keep people warm. Unfortunately there is a further development of the radical wing of the ecologists who are much more open to using violence to accomplish what they see as “saving the planet”. That will be a growing problem in the years to come.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
China and fusion start-up company TAE claim they will have an operating fusion plant by 2030.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
We will see.
Roy
Roy
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
I think I saw that article. If I recollect correctly, they had maintained a fusion reaction into the milliseconds. (Article referenced herein is around 100 nanoseconds.) The China article did not claim positive energy output.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
This NIF pulse lasted a bit under 10 nanoseconds, not 0.1 microseconds.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Are you saying idiots will be a problem? I don’t see how, as we’ve done okay so far, and there’s never been a shortage of idiots as near as I can tell. Ever.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
If you call radical ecologists who stoop to violence then I would say they are idiots but dangerous ones.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Aren’t all idiots dangerous? I think though that if. We quit putting them in charge of everything like we do now then they might not be so dangerous. Which kind of makes me wonder just how many idiots we have since that really expands their numbers.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Not at all. Most idiots are only a danger to themselves.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
But what if they vote? It seems to me that the majority of voters are idiots since it is the majority that wins. Though since they can only elect the selected, the other side may be just as idiotic. No matter what the trumptards say. Only the selected are elected. Always. That’s a lot of dangerous idiots if you ask me. Though we survive.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
You want to have only selected people the right to vote? I suppose that you would like to be the one who does the selecting since it is clear that you see yourself as more intelligent than most others but what if in reality you are not more intelligent than the others and what if you yourself are a fool and an idiot? An idiot who knows he is not that intelligent may be an idiot but not a fool while someone who doesn’t perceive his own lack of intelligence is an idiot and also a fool.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Please learn how to read before you tell me what I wrote. That way you won’t be revealed as a fool. You read the opposite, which tells me everything about you.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
The totality of your reasoning rests on your belief that most voters are idiots. Since that is your belief then I would conclude that for you democracy is not a system that you want and wish for a system where voting if any is restricted to a few or perhaps do away with it all together. Holding the majority in contempt because they do not vote as you wish is a characteristic of those seduced by some form of authoritarianism whether of the Left or the Right. Which is it for you, on far Right or the far Left?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You are a fool if you think we have a democracy. It’s supposed to be a constitutional republic. I would also advise you stay out of the stock market as the majority is always wrong there. As is everywhere. Of course you can only envision voting for anyone other than yourself because you know you are a fool. I am not a fool, so I am sovereign and can trust the reins of my emotions to reality, unlike you.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
You are just one of those run-of-the-mill cynics who likes to whine. As for the stock market I have knowledge and direct experience in it that I doubt you have so your advice just makes me laugh.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Of course I make you laugh, fools always laugh at good advice. But now I am going to hit ignore on you as you don’t have anything of value to offer me.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
You have a too high opinion of yourself
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Imo Solar will win out in the end. Forget the name of the company but there is a Dutch car company that’s building a hybrid solar vehicle. Imo the ideal solution will be a vehicle that has multiple solutions and not reliant on a single technology.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
If we get a large volcano eruption somewhere in the world that pollutes the atmosphere with a lot of dust, solar will become less or even ineffective. These type of eruptions sem to occur every couple hundred years or so. What then?
This is why we will still need standard energy plants. Petroleum & fission right now but fusion as soon as possible.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
If we get large enough volcanic eruptions, they can block the sun somewhat and cool the planet slightly for a few years.
Unfortunately, these big eruptions provide just a short term respite, and global warming continues after the short term cooling effect ends.
On the downside, this form of pollution is pretty unhealthy for humans.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
This is why I said hybrid technology. Ideally you want transportation that can run on solar cells, batteries and gasoline.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Agree. At this point, we don’t have the materials needed to replace all ICE vehicles with electric vehicles. Nor the needed electrical generation and transmission capabilities. We do have enough materials to build hybrid vehicles with much smaller battery packs that can travel 50 miles on battery and then switch over to gas when needed. This would be far more practical, efficient and effective than trying to build all EVs that need a battery that goes 300 miles or more.
Particularly since 28% of all US driving “trips” are less than 1 mile, 52% less than 3 miles, and 98% are less than 50 miles.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
In other words 28% of the trips are good walks that are much needed by an obese population.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
True. But it doesn’t matter, since they won’t walk.
In addition, vehicle use is increasing rapidly in the rest of the world, particularly in the world’s soon to be most populated country, India. Bicycles are being replaced by motorcycles. And then people upgrade to automobiles.
We may be increasing the number of EVs each year, but not as much as we are increasing the number of ICE vehicles.
dbannist
dbannist
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
THey cool the air a couple of degrees. That’s not going to significantly impact solar collections.

Even Tambora reduced the air quality for just a few years, but only by like 1%. A 1% reduction in solar collection is meaningless.

KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
They block the sun. It’s a solar flux issue. Not an air temperature issue.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Speaking of volcano eruptions:
———
2022: The Year in Volcanic Activity
Alan Taylor
December 19, 2022
25 Photos In Focus
Out of an estimated 1,350 active volcanoes worldwide, about 45 have continuing eruptions, and about 80 erupt each year, spewing steam, ash, toxic gases, and lava. In 2022, erupting volcanoes included the Fagradalsfjall volcano in Iceland, Mount Anak Krakatau in Indonesia, the Fuego volcano in Guatemala, Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai in Tonga, Mauna Loa in Hawaii, Mount Etna in Sicily, Shiveluch volcano in Russia, and more. Collected below are scenes from the wide variety of volcanic activity on Earth over the past year.
HINTS: View this page full screen.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
There was a company in India that was going to sell cars powered by compressed air in America about 8 or 9 years ago. No technical problems, and air probably won’t ruin the air, though I am not state certified in air, so I can’t say for sure. Several companies were doing the same. Haven’t seen one yet. For some reason I guess that air is bad for the environment. I wouldn’t breathe any if I were you. It must be poison if AOC doesn’t like it.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
It’s been 20 years away for 20 years… this needs to happen soon. Civilization and the ecosystem are starting to shudder and and make ominous sounds. It’s gonna take 20 years to build a plant, too… and the kooks will be out fighting it every inch of the way. Would not surprise me to see the oil industry direct trumps kook army against fusion, because H3 pollutes their precious bodily fluids or some such nonsense. They’re already against electric cars.
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
If “they” are environmentalists, you are correct.
“They” are for it until you go to dig up the materials you need to build it.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Reproducing fusion net energy release and sustaining it in an ongoing harvestable reaction are two very different things.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
You have a vivid imagination, that the oil industry would direct Trump supporters against fusion. I am not against electric cars. I am against them being the mandated mode of personal transportation, as California is doing. Dr. Chris Martinson says the math of doing that altogether, across the world, doesn’t work. Math is one thing that is difficult to get around. Newsom has already had to walk back the shut down of the remaining fission nuclear power plant in CA.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
You’d get your orders from Kook Central, and be telling us how you can run your car on Invermectin.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Because Trump followers are against energy production. Makes perfect sense.

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