“I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop.” Donald Trump at a 2021 rally in Ohio.
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
“I’ll be meeting personally with Taliban leaders in the not-too-distant future. And we’ll be very much hoping that they will be doing what they say they’re going to be doing: They will be killing terrorists. They will be killing some very bad people. They will keep that fight going.” Donald Trump, February 29, 2020
Cocoa
2 years ago
The war was not winnable BUT big defense, Intelligence was able to pick pocket the US taxpayer for 3 decades. Think of all the money that went to contractors, manufacturers of weapons. Then think about how Don Rumsfeld announced that we lost 2 trillion dollars in the accounting.Nobody knows where it went. Then think about how 9-11 happened soon after. Corporate anarchists have been pillaging the country for years.
No. They will not die with the Taliban. Many of them will be coming to the US as refugees, because we really need refugees to water the tree of US democracy.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
OT….Bob Dylan got #meetoo’ed. Is there anybody left?
Did you see Dylan kept emaculate records of where he was, where he played, and where he stayed? He was on tour and locations other than the one the woman claims in her lawsuit.
My neighbor has a great Bob Dylan story. He is a fascinating guy.
Tengen
2 years ago
Those trying to flee Kabul seem to have very little in common with most of their countrymen. It’s like they exist in different worlds.
Bungalow Bill
2 years ago
As someone who served, I always find it fascinating anyone believes there is a winnable war. Here we are trillions deeper in debt–noting the national debt has skyrocketed since 2001–while those who clearly funded and were most involved in the terrorist attacks on 9/11, the Saudis, haven’t even had their hand slapped. The real loser in this besides those who lost loved ones in combat fighting this nonsensical and poorly planned military action, is the US tax payer. We are nothing more than tax slaves watching our liberties erode while the load on our shoulders increase.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
—James Madison, Political Observations, Apr. 20, 1795 in: Letters and Other Writings of James Madison, vol. 4, p. 491 (1865)
My take is the plan worked exactly as needed and continues to function close to perfection. The idea from the beginning was to bring in more government and close the loop holes of freedom and allow printing of dollars to enrich all those in the game. The war on terrorism is an ongoing battle for which there is no price tag that is too much.
What’s unbelievable is we re-elect the same guys that follow this plan year after year. These wars just do not happen we create them as theater to distract our attention as “the gamers” fill their pockets with cash.
Washington DC has some of the best acting in the world.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Another OT….Bob Dylan is being #meetoo’ed. Shoulda known this was coming. Who is left?
The alleged incident supposedly occurred in 1965 at the now infamous Chelsea Hotel…..and I can pretty much guarantee you that this plaintiff was not the only 12 year old groupie ever (allegedly) boinked by a rock star there. It’s the place Sid Vicious let his girlfriend Nancy Spungen OD and die in bed…..damn near every rock band that ever toured stayed there and the place was known for two generations as a place where drugs, orgies and God-knows-what took place on a regular basis.
There was a documentary about the Chelsea that came out a few years back…which was excellent. The former doorman’s stories were epic.
The statute of limitations for rape in NY run out after 20 years….but there is no statute of limitations on a civil case….
Can you just imagine the extreme psychological damage this poor woman has endured during the 56 yers it took her to bravely come forward?
Dylan is 81….it is said that he kicked a heroin habit way back in ’66….so who know what he did or didn’t do in ‘65. He was hotter than Elvis at that particular moment..
I’m not defending anybody….but 56 years later? And didn’t the parents have some responsibility for keeping their cute teeny-bopper daughter out of the Chelsea Hotel?
Good photo ops for people to post on social media and play the Blame Game….which is in high gear as we speak.
WTF cares really? No reason to lay blame on anybody.
Those of us with modest critical thinking skills saw this coming a long time ago. I started predicting it years ago when the mission creep turned into nation-building and “making the world safe for democracy”….that least likely of all possible outcomes……..in places that have never valued such ideas at all.
OT…the link below is for a YT that gives a great breakdown on the new IPCC report from last week….climate campaigners will hate it. So will climate deniers. The tiny group of people who prefer the truth to wild hyperbole might get some benefit from watching. FYI.
Yup, each POTUS since Bush punted the responsiblity of exiting out of this mess to the next until finally one day someone actually realized the clock ran out and it was time to exit.
Bam_Man
2 years ago
“You f****d up. You trusted us.”
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My neighbor has a great Bob Dylan story. He is a fascinating guy.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
—James Madison, Political Observations, Apr. 20, 1795 in: Letters and Other Writings of James Madison, vol. 4, p. 491 (1865)