Trump Downplays Outbreak as Sniffles and Burning Embers

On Fox News, Trump Calls Some Flare-Ups ‘Burning Embers’ despite record cases and hospital beds filling up in California, Texas, Arizona, and Florida, 

In an interview on Fox News that aired Sunday, Mr. Trump said many recent cases involve young people. “They have the sniffles and we put it down as a test,” he said.

Mr. Trump said some flare-ups of new cases were like “burning embers” and flames that need to be put out. “We have embers and we do have flames. Florida became more flame-like,” he said, adding, “It’s going to be under control.’’

While more testing does result in more cases, Dr. Fauci said in a June 16 interview that higher percentages of positive tests in many states “cannot be explained by increased testing.”

The percent of positive tests on a seven day average has swelled from about 4.4% in mid June to almost 9% as of mid July, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Daily New Deaths and Cases

Deaths vs Cases

  • Daily deaths peaked on April 24 at 2,254 per day. 
  • The number of cases peaked 11 days earlier at 32,464 cases per day.
  • Deaths are trending up again, and also with a lag.

The lags make sense. People do not immediately die. Rather they get sick, then very sick, then go to the hospital, then die. 

The July lag is unlikely to match the lag in April because different states and age groups are involved.

Reduced Death Rate Factors

  • Hospitals have worked out better treatment methods.
  • Increasingly younger people are catching Covid.

Patients Stranded in Emergency Rooms as Hospitals Fill Up

The problem with downplaying the reduced death rate is hospital beds are filling up even if people do not end up dying. 

Note that Patients Stranded in Emergency Rooms as Hospitals Fill Up

To contain the outbreaks, even Republican governors have walked back reopenings.

 ‘Everybody Is Struggling’

Loan loss provisions at banks suggest ‘Everybody Is Struggling’.

32 Million People Collecting Unemployment Benefits 

As noted last Thursday, All Continued Unemployment Claims Top 32 Million Again.

Most of those people are on economic life support as Congress weighs extending benefits this week. 

Find Something New

Trump’s daughter, Ivanka, says “Find Something New”.

To suggest that 32 million people can find something new is ridiculopus.

For discussion, please see Trump’s Payroll Tax Cut and the Arrogance of “Find Something New”

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Gumtoo
Gumtoo
3 years ago

Young people should continue to flout the rules. After all, the virus won’t affect them much. If they spread the virus around it will take out a lot of the older folks who destroyed their future. If enough old folks go it might even stimulate the economy. Win-win!

Trump Pandemic
Trump Pandemic
3 years ago
Reply to  Gumtoo

And reduce the number of Trump supporters

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago
Reply to  Gumtoo

I like how you think. I calculate there’s 7 billion people too many.

JustDaFactsJack
JustDaFactsJack
3 years ago

The part where Trump waved away a thousand deaths a day with “it is what it is” was truly chilling. That’s 365K deaths a year at the current rate, and with the death count now ticking up along with infection rate and ICU beds disappearing, you could have half a million Americans or more dying needlessly from this every single year. That’s a higher death rate annually than ANY war the US has ever fought in.

Total failure of leadership, total lack of empathy for the well-being of one’s fellow citizens, and malice/joy at the plight of the northeast that is now converting to science denial as the northeast got the virus under control while the Red States allow their populations to get permanently injured and/or killed.

Worst. President. Ever. By far.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago

PINO

President In Name Only

Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago

Also deaths are reduced because we are keeping Covid from burning thru convalecent homes for the aged this time around unlike what occured in New York last spring and to a decent extent elsewhere.

Michael Oxlong
Michael Oxlong
3 years ago

i watched the interview and i thought trump was fantastic. i doubt biden will do an interview with Wallace because there’s no way he could answer tough questions.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Oxlong

You my friend are also delusional.

Michael Oxlong
Michael Oxlong
3 years ago

do you think biden will do an interview with wallace? don’t you think biden is really struggling cognitively? he can barely get out a coherent sentence. try to answer these questions. if you just insult me, that means you can’t answer the questions.

Stuki
Stuki
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Oxlong

The safest way for Biden to secure the White House come November, is literally to follow the Pelosi principle: We must vote for him, so we can find out who he is.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Oxlong

I am not promoting or defending Biden. I am on the other hand calling out Trump for his failed and misguided leadership.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Oxlong

Must Trump cultists are delusional.

I find it fascinating how they stood solidly against Obama on issues like deficit spending, bailouts, gun control, free government stuff, and Planned Parenthood and yet defend Trump on all these issues despite the facts that MAGA looks a lot like Hope and Change.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Oxlong

Russian bot.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
3 years ago

Watched excerpts of the Chris Wallace interview. Trump is delusional. The GOP will go down in flames if they keep backing Trump for November.

Montana33
Montana33
3 years ago

Chris Wallace did a good job. I’m surprised Trump agreed to be interviewed by a skilled journalist. What will Trump say when hospitals in 15-20 States get blown out and they have to call in refrigerated trucks for the dead and the military to set up field hospitals? This result is already locked in. I understand Trump is inept, but what about Birx? Does she despise Trump so she’s feeding him bad information? She’s not stupid enough to think we would succeed like Italy has. Trump will vilify her and say she told him to open up and to send kids to school. We all know he won’t take responsibility for anything.

Escierto
Escierto
3 years ago

Keep digging that hole, Trump. He’s like a guy insisting it’s bright and sunny while we are in the middle of a monsoon.

Tengen
Tengen
3 years ago

This will be Trump’s strategy until November, that Covid-19 is just the flu and that masks are evil. He’s in a rough situation, so from a purely political standpoint it makes sense to be obstinate and swing for the fences since he has nothing to lose.

Ironically, this will hamper Trump’s efforts to demonize China and the CCP. If the virus only gives you a case of the sniffles, then who cares if it came from China?

KansasDog
KansasDog
3 years ago

Well of course the orange clown is laughing at it. He has the best security detail and drugs that fiat can buy.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago

Sunday reading. Pay attention now people!

Coronavirus: Why everyone was wrong
The immune response to the virus is stronger than everyone thought
Back to Reason
Jul 2, 2020

The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

This article is about Switzerland and it does not suggest that the situation is exactly the same globally. I am advocating for local measures according to local situations. And I advocate for looking at real data rather than abstract models. I also suggest to read to the end, because Stadler makes crucial points about testing for Sars-CoV-2.

dguillor
dguillor
3 years ago
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MATHGAME
MATHGAME
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Stadler has been known as a “troll” of sorts, deliberately making his statements as provocative (and often wrong) as possible … much like the troll who posted his article.

Stadler: “So: Sars-Cov-2 isn’t all that new, but merely a seasonal cold virus that mutated and disappears in summer, as all cold viruses do — which is what we’re observing globally right now.”

LOL! When was the last time someone’s cold produced the range of organ destruction that SARS-COV-2 has been seen to produce?

“and disappears in summer” … I think Carl, and the reality, already addressed that foolishness.

HubbaBuba
HubbaBuba
3 years ago

“Find something new” by Bimbo Barbie and a family that never has. Most nepotistic Political family in the history of the Republic. By MANY fold!

tokidoki
tokidoki
3 years ago

Trump wins again in the eyes of his constituents.

Trump will be a herald of the coming class conflict. Been waiting for this for a LOONG time.

Dow 25 billion!!!

anoop
anoop
3 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

Not 25B, but 403B!

tokidoki
tokidoki
3 years ago
Reply to  anoop

Sorry was too pessimistic. How about 1 trillion?

anoop
anoop
3 years ago
Reply to  tokidoki

Is there a retirement plan that ends with the letter T? First the Dow will hit 401K, then 403B.

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