My shocking conclusion: This is amazing, but TWS is curable after all. 
Clinton was in 512 out of 2,324 threads, almost all of them pre-2016. Whereas Trump concentration was after 2016.
Epstein Email Cache
Please consider The Epstein Email Cache: 2,300 Messages, Many of Which Mention Trump That is a free WSJ link.
Congress released a cache of documents this week that were recently turned over by Jeffrey Epstein’s estate. Among them: more than 2,300 email threads that the convicted sex offender either sent or received between 2008 and 2019.
The House Oversight Committee had subpoenaed the estate for all of Epstein’s communications with 92 people who were named in Virginia Giuffre’s 2015 defamation lawsuit against Ghislaine Maxwell, including Epstein associates and assistants, as well as “all U.S. presidents and vice presidents.”
Not surprisingly, President Trump and former President Bill Clinton are both referenced hundreds of times in what was released this week, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis. Former President Barack Obama’s name appears as well. The Journal’s analysis didn’t identify messages that any of the U.S. presidents wrote directly to Epstein or received emails from him, just references to them by Epstein or his conversation partners.
The Journal examined all the documents released this week by Congress, which is a subset of Epstein’s correspondence.
Bill Clinton socialized with Epstein in the 1990s and traveled on Epstein’s jet. A spokesman for the former president said: “These emails prove what we’ve been saying all along—and then some: President Clinton had no knowledge of Epstein’s heinous crimes, had not spoken to him in twenty years, had never visited the island, and there was simply no love lost.”
Many of the messages are with other well-known Epstein associates, such as former Harvard President Larry Summers. Summers emailed regularly with Epstein, including banter about women and an exchange in 2019 shortly before Epstein was arrested. Summers told the Journal in 2023 that he deeply regrets being in contact with Epstein after his conviction. He didn’t respond to requests for comment on the emails.
None of the emails prove anything about anyone. But we have not yet seen the full files. These are sanitized ones.
Importantly, the reaction of Trump indicates a smoking gun. If there was nothing in these files he would not be reacting as he is.
Trump Calls for Investigation Into Democrats Named in Epstein Emails
Please note Trump Calls for Investigation Into Democrats Named in Epstein Emails That’s also a free link so you can look for yourself at the totality of the post.
President Trump said he would ask the Justice Department and the FBI to launch an investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s relationship with former President Bill Clinton and other Democrats.
In a social-media post Friday morning, Trump accused Democrats of focusing on his ties to the disgraced financier to distract from their own political vulnerabilities. In addition to Clinton, he said he would ask the Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigation to probe the deceased sex offender’s relationships with economist Larry Summers, a former Obama administration official, and venture capitalist Reid Hoffman, a prominent Democratic donor.
The president also said the investigation should examine JPMorgan Chase. Epstein had dozens of accounts at JPMorgan’s private bank and communicated often with bank executives, The Wall Street Journal has previously reported. JPMorgan, which cut ties with Epstein in 2013, filed what is known as a suspicious activity report to federal law enforcement beginning as early as 2002. The bank has paid a total of $365 million in civil settlements in connection with litigation over Epstein.
Attorney General Pam Bondi said she asked Jay Clayton, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York—the same office that brought charges against Epstein and his longtime associate Ghislaine Maxwell—to take the lead on the request. “As with all matters, the Department will pursue this with urgency and integrity to deliver answers to the American people,” she wrote in a social-media post.
Summers didn’t respond to a request for comment.
“The government had damning information about his crimes and failed to share it with us or other banks,” JPMorgan Chase spokeswoman Patricia Wexler said in a statement. “We regret any association we had with the man, but did not help him commit his heinous acts.”
In one exchange included in the newly released emails, Summers told Epstein after the president’s 2017 visit to Saudi Arabia that officials viewed Trump “as a clown, increasingly dangerous on foreign policy.” Summers has previously said he regrets associating with Epstein.
Clinton, who socialized with Epstein in the 1990s and traveled on Epstein’s jet, was also mentioned in the collection of emails released this week. In one exchange, Epstein was asked by a reporter if Clinton had ever been to his private island. Epstein responded, “clinton was NEVER EVER there, never.” A Clinton spokesman said earlier this week that the former president had no knowledge of Epstein’s crimes.
Hoffman, the billionaire LinkedIn co-founder, visited Epstein’s private Caribbean island for a weekend, according to previously reported emails and schedules. Hoffman has said he met with Epstein to raise funds for the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Hoffman said he regrets his interactions with Epstein and MIT has said that it was a mistake to accept gifts from Epstein.
Several emails released this week put a spotlight on Trump’s relationship with Epstein.
In an April 2, 2011, email to Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein referred to Trump as “that dog that hasn’t barked,” and said a young woman had “spent hours at my house with him.” [Mish: That’s the smoking gun Trump does no want investigated]
Hoffman Response on X
- Trump should release all of the Epstein files: every person and every document in the files.
- I want this complete release because it will bring justice for the victims.
- I want this complete release because it will show that the calls for baseless investigations of me are nothing more than political persecution and slander. I was never a client of Epstein’s and never had any engagement with him other than fundraising for MIT.
- The call for an investigation is an obvious ploy to avoid releasing the files. Simply release all the files, and expose the people who had both deep and ongoing relationships with Epstein.
- I will do everything in my power going forward to advocate for the release of the files, to get justice for Epstein’s victims, and to promote the values of truth our great country was founded on.
- I refuse to bend the knee to Donald Trump and his slanderous lies.
Those are individual posts by Reid Hoffman in the past 18 hours or so.
I agree with all of Hoffman’s comments, especially point #4: The call for an investigation is an obvious ploy to avoid releasing the files. Simply release all the files, and expose the people who had both deep and ongoing relationships with Epstein
Trump ‘knew about the girls’
Politico reports Jeffrey Epstein, in newly released email, says Trump ‘knew about the girls’
In another batch of emails released Wednesday, Epstein appeared to be keeping close tabs on a 2016 lawsuit filed by an anonymous woman who alleged Trump and Epstein had raped her in the 1990s when she was 13 years old. Epstein circulated links to news stories about the lawsuit to his lawyers and acquaintances, at one point using the word “nuts” in the subject line of an email that linked to a story about a judge scheduling a status conference in the case. The woman subsequently dropped the lawsuit.
An email Epstein sent to Landon Thomas, a New York Times journalist, in 2015 asks if Thomas “would … like [photos] of donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen.”
Trump Withdraws Support for Once Staunch Backer Marjorie Taylor Greene
To round out a trio of free WSJ links, please consider Trump Withdraws Support for Once Staunch Backer Marjorie Taylor Greene.
President Trump said he is withdrawing his support for GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, a longtime backer who has recently criticized the Trump administration and called for the release of Justice Department investigative files into disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.
The president, in a Friday night social-media post, said he would consider supporting a primary challenge to Greene.
“I understand that wonderful, Conservative people are thinking about primarying Marjorie in her District of Georgia, that they too are fed up with her and her antics and, if the right person runs, they will have my Complete and Unyielding Support,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. In subsequent posts Saturday, Trump called her a Republican in name only and said she was a disgrace to the party.
Greene responded by saying Trump was lashing out at her in an effort to scare other Republicans from voting in support of releasing the Epstein files, and she questioned his priorities. She also declared her independence from Trump, the man she has credited with getting her interested in running for office.
“I have supported President Trump with too much of my precious time, too much of my own money, and fought harder for him even when almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him,” Greene wrote on X. “But I don’t worship or serve Donald Trump.”
She added that it was “astonishing really how hard he’s fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming out that he actually goes to this level.” She said “most Americans wish he would fight this hard to help the forgotten men and women of America.”
The friction underscores escalating divisions among Trump’s Make America Great Again coalition as the president faces economic headwinds and fallout from Republicans’ poor performance in elections earlier this month. Some conservatives have also said he should focus less on foreign travel and return to his “America First” agenda.
Greene, who was elected to Congress in 2020, built her reputation as an unwavering Trump loyalist. But she has become critical of some of Trump’s positions, as voters have expressed mounting concern over grocery prices and the cost of healthcare. She has also sided with critics alarmed by Trump’s recent comments defending H-1B visas, and called Israel’s actions in Gaza a “genocide.”
In recent weeks, Greene has done several interviews in which she criticized her party for not having an answer on increasing healthcare costs.
At a time when Republicans were largely unified, Greene blamed both Republicans and Democrats for the shutdown and said on CNN that “it’s basically a you-know-what measuring contest between the men in leadership. And I think the country is sick and tired of it.”
Greene was one of four House Republicans who signed a petition designed to force a House vote on releasing files related to Epstein. The petition, which got its crucial 218th signature this week, will force a vote on the files, putting all House Republicans on record on releasing the documents. Speaker Mike Johnson (R., La.) said he would hold the vote next week.
“I am withdrawing my support and Endorsement of “Congresswoman” Marjorie Taylor Greene, of the Great State of Georgia,” Trump said in his Friday Truth Social post, boasting of achievements under his administration,
“All I see ‘Wacky’ Marjorie do is COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN!,” he wrote.
Rarest of Rare Political Actions
It is very rare for politicians to reverse course as much as Marjorie Taylor Greene has.
She has gone from a person with severe Trump Worship Syndrome (TWS) to normal middle-of-the-road concerns on inflation that Trump denies in words and admits in actions.
And she is open about it. Most politician try to sweep it under the rug. Instead MTG stated “I have supported President Trump with too much of my precious time, too much of my own money, and fought harder for him even when almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him,” Greene wrote on X. “But I don’t worship or serve Donald Trump.”
MTG on November 6
MTG November 14
Full Expanded Post From Above (Emphasis Mine)
President Trump just attacked me and lied about me. I haven’t called him at all, but I did send these text messages today. Apparently this is what sent him over the edge. The Epstein files. And of course he’s coming after me hard to make an example to scare all the other Republicans before next weeks vote to release the Epstein files. It’s astonishing really how hard he’s fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming out that he actually goes to this level. But really most Americans wish he would fight this hard to help the forgotten men and women of America who are fed up with foreign wars and foreign causes, are going broke trying to feed their families, and are losing hope of ever achieving the American dream. That’s what I voted for. I have supported President Trump with too much of my precious time, too much of my own money, and fought harder for him even when almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him. But I don’t worship or serve Donald Trump. I worship God, Jesus is my savior, and I serve my district GA14 and the American people. I remain the same today as I’ve always been and I will continue to pray this administration will be successful because the American people desperately deserve what they voted for. For me, I remain America First and America Only!!!
MTG Call For Full Transparency November 14
MTG Today
Expanded Post From Today
I am now being contacted by private security firms with warnings for my safety as a hot bed of threats against me are being fueled and egged on by the most powerful man in the world. The man I supported and helped get elected. Aggressive rhetoric attacking me has historically led to death threats and multiple convictions of men who were radicalized by the same type rhetoric being directed at me right now. This time by the President of the United States. As a woman I take threats from men seriously. I now have a small understanding of the fear and pressure the women, who are victims of Jeffrey Epstein and his cabal, must feel. As a Republican, who overwhelmingly votes for President Trump‘s bills and agenda, his aggression against me which also fuels the venomous nature of his radical internet trolls (many of whom are paid), this is completely shocking to everyone. My phone is blowing up with constant amazing support. I’m so thankful! The Political Industrial Complex and the toxic violent nature of American politics must end. Our country is worth saving and it can only be done if we pull together and save ourselves.
TWS Reversal
Wow. I always thought MTG was a Trump cult nutcase inflicted with TWS. Well, she was.
This is the first case of TWS reversal at this political level in history.
I did not think such a thing could happen. But since it has happened, it can happen again.
Questions of the Day
Q: Will full Epstein files ever be released?
A: No
Q: Won’t the House vote for this?
A: Yes, newly sworn in Democratic Representative Adelita Grijalva signed the discharge petition to force a vote. She provided the 218th discharge petition vote that 4 republicans also signed.
Q: What’s next?
A: Even if the pending House vote is 218 or higher, the Senate will not approve. And even if the Senate approved, Trump would veto it. But ithe process itself would be very messy for Trump. Expect Trump to threaten the 4 Republicans who signed the discharge petition.
Q: Who are the 4 Republicans
A: Representative Thomas Massie (Kentucky), who spearheaded the bill with Democratic Representative Ro Khanna. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (Georgia). Representative Nancy Mace (South Carolina). Representative Lauren Boebert (Colorado).
Massie and Greene are immovable. Trump will seriously threaten Mace and Boebert.
Will Any of This Matter?
That’s the important question. My answer is not directly to a significant degree.
Epstein is now a distant memory for most. MAGA voters are so inflicted with TWS they just don’t give a damn. They believe Trump now when he calls it a hoax. And they believed Trump when Trump played it up.
In the real world, people are sick of inflation, of housing, of Obamacare fighting.
And republicans own the Obamacare crisis now.
Their only solution is a free money scheme that will be a budget buster breaker if enacted but still will not fix the problems. If nothing happens, Republicans will get 100% of the blame for Obamcare.
Like MTG or not, she appears to have figured this out and is pouring it on, in multiple directions simultaneously.
Meanwhile the dog that did not bark, Trump, is now howling at the moon about Epstein, about housing, and about inflation.
Contradictory Messages
Trump is so caught up in contradictory lies it’s hard to know where to start. On one hand “inflation is nonexistent”.
On the other hand Trump is acting to combat the inflation he caused.
Biggest Trump Tariff TACO Yet
Earlier today I asked What Should We Make of the Biggest Trump Tariff TACO Yet?
Trump is rolling back tariffs. I am laughing, not complaining.
Best Comments of the Day
- “It’s certainly a step in the right direction, but it’s important to recognize that the pain that American working families and businesses feel from tariffs goes way beyond coffee and bananas,” said Jake Colvin, president of the National Foreign Trade Council.
- “By admitting that lowering tariffs will lower prices for U.S. consumers, the Trump administration is acknowledging what economists have pointed out all along: tariffs raise prices,” said Erica York, vice president of federal tax policy at the Tax Foundation, a think tank critical of tariffs.
Trump’s actions, not words, prove he is concerned about inflation.
Trump Labels Those Against Tariffs as “Fools”, Proposes $2,000 to Everyone
On November 9, 2025, I noted Trump Labels Those Against Tariffs as “Fools”, Proposes $2,000 to Everyone
Trump proposes another massive wealth redistribution scheme.
Four Trump Tariff Positions
- Use Tariffs to eliminate the deficit and pay down debt
- Use tariffs to bring production back to the US
- Use tariffs as a redistribution scheme to give everyone $2,000
- Use tariffs to pay for the damage Trump he caused to farmers
$2,000 Redistribution Math
- Total Population: 343 Million – Cost $686 Billion
- Noninstitutional Population Age 16+ of the US: 274 million – Cost $548 Billion
- Noninstitutional Population Subset: 200 Million – Cost $400 Billion
Five Questions
- Who pays the tariffs?
- Since when do Republicans cheer massive money redistribution schemes?
- How does one eliminate the deficit and pay down debt when the deficit is much larger than tariffs can bring in?
- How can tariffs simultaneously bring back production and collect money?
- How can you redistribute $400 billion minimum, plus farm bailouts, and shrink the deficit?
Five Answers
- US consumers and businesses
- Since Trump
- You don’t
- You don’t
- You don’t
What’s Trump Doing?
This is speculation on my part, but I think he is futilely trying to drum up support for tariffs when the Supreme Court rules against him on reciprocal tariffs.
Trump wants to blame the court for their ruling if and when it goes against him. (Note: I have a post coming up on the Court decision regarding the odds, and the vote count by individual justices).
Of course, never discount the possibility that there is no rationale for Trump’s madness, so there’s just madness. He says or does things on whims without thinking.
Yes, it’s this stupid and this convoluted.
You can like Marjorie Taylor Greene, or not. But at least she now sees Trump’s hypocrisy and is calling him out.
Q: After promising to fix Inflation, jobs, and housing, what the hell has Trump delivered?
A: Impose nonsensical tariffs that damage the economy and raise prices, increase the deficit, join wars in the Mideast, start wars in South America, and threaten a war in Nigeria. The tariffs are backfiring now. Well OK, Trump rightfully went after DEI. And he halted the immigration wave. However, he f’d up deportation, and had to back off farm and meatpacker raids.
Is that a combination you voted for?
Regardless, it’s still the economy stupid. And Republicans own all of the above. Yet, all Trump does is ooze extremely contradictory nonsense on Truth social. He now sounds just like Biden.
For discussion, please see Three Statements on Price Gouging: Who Said What? Trump, Warren, or Biden?
I list three statements. Tell me who said them.
Congrats to Marjorie Taylor Greene for seeing the hypocrisy of Trump. It’s a start. Others are sure to follow.
This is amazing, but TWS is curable after all. MTG is proof.
“if you can gather enough evidence to get a Grand Jury Involved, then have at it, Otherwise Let It Go!!!”
Total silliness.
The only way to find evidence is to release all the files.
You are content to sweep any chance of evidence under the rug.
The laws are not the problem, enforcement is the problem with both Epstein and Trump. Decades of protecting criminal behavior and conspiring to withhold evidence.
RICO ACT!
But Alex Jones told me Trump was an “informant” and thus, i guess, one of the good guys in that context… /s
Apparently Trump is the Donnie Brasco of the Epstein files.
And that’s total silliness as well. You act as if the DOJ & FBI of three administrations haven’t meticulously combed through them.
There’s nothing criminally indicatable in the Epstein files. Let’s take Larry Summers, for example. He took four trips to Epstein’s private island. Okay, great. That places him at the location where sex crimes allegedly happened. But that’s far from indictable, and there’s the JPMorgan Executive Jes Staley who testified under oath in 2023 that Summers and several others where referred to JPMorgan for business by Epstein. If Larry had sex with under age girls, then apparently Epstein & Maxwell did a great job compartmentalizing it & not leaving a trail.
So here’s the thing. All the people in the know who’ve looked at the Epstein files over the last 20+ years know there’s not enough there to bring indictments. What’s left is all sorts of guilt by association, salacious snippets that will do harm to victims and others who are supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
I don’t blame anyone fighting the release. But honestly, I’m fine with the House releasing them. Everything that’s been selectively leaked by the Dems to-date has been nothingburgers. Again, there’s an immovable wall reason for this. That’s a lot of eyeballs to create a cover up.
And let’s all get ready for the firestorm of guilt by association the Dems will be falling over themselves trying to sell to the public before the midterms. That’s election interference IMHO.
Well stated!
Also Zero Evidence that Trump was ever even on the island. Much like the lack of evidence against several others already pointed out. No Crime, No News, No Fact, it’s called a Lie!
And Virgina Giuffre is on record, under oath as were other persons directly involved in the sex ring that have said they never saw Trump doing anything wrong. Okay, maybe Trump knew what was going on. That’s not criminal. And there were tons of people who knew what was going on, including people who worked at DOJ & FBI. Eventually, it caught up with Epstein. He was found guilty & then died in jail under mysterious circumstances. At least we didn’t have to feed & house him for 20+ years like we’re doing with Maxwell.
Then what’s to cover up?
And by now, in my opinion, even a retard should admit it’s a coverup, leaving only cuckservatives to carry Daddy Trump’s jockstrap.
Pardon my french… /s
Trump is covering up for many people — including people you probably detest.. Even if it’s not himself personally, he’s unfit for LEO in Chief.
– Then what’s to cover up? > Nothing yet, so why is anyone even talking about this?
– And by now, in my opinion, even a retard should admit it’s a coverup. > Well with Zero Proof of anything, it’s either the most remarkable coverup in history, or nothing to see here, so move along… No Crimes Proven yet, No evidence obtained of a Crime yet, No reason to be discussing this then. Let ALL the paper, ALL the pictures, and A List of ALL the Crimes, come out, but until then it’s just starting trouble, controversy, and mayhem about nothing. Stop the innuendos about what might, could, will, won’t, BE, and all the conjured up BS. Facts!!! Just Facts!! Facts Only!
The king is begining to look a little bit naked, I think
Reminds me of Rachael madcow and Adam sh!tts constant lies durring Trump 1
not saying its not possible, just suggesting it seems like the same play book
Everyone else skates? Did Amazon run out of millstone neckties? The all belong at the bottom of the sea.
“This is the first case of TWS reversal at this political level in history.”
Stated TWS reversal. Her own tweet goes on then to state she still hopes this administration will be successful.
The titular POTUS is coming after her, he’s in the files, knew about the children and very probably more, and still she wishes him success.
Regardless of your position, ya gotta admit it is very impressive how the state protects the powerful and their wrongdoing. Judges seal the evidence, then block the release of the evidence, while agencies delay and deny, and regime media propaganda obfuscates, rather than explain.
They protect their own, but also toss them under, the moment they are not needed any longer. It’s sort of a “What Have You Done For Me Lately” and there best be an Answer to that question.
No Answer, see Mr. Fetterman and He can let you know. The Dems are trying to push Him (again) Out right now, because He didn’t “Do Anything Lately” for them. In Fact John F. Made some factual statements against the Party, and as a result “He Must Go”!!! Nice “Do As We Tell You To” Party you have there! No Thanks!
Mish: “It is very rare for politicians to reverse course as much as Marjorie Taylor Greene has.”
Wrong.
She has not reversed course at all but has remained true to her publicly stated convictions on the issues. I voted for Trump (well, against Biden’s open borders) but he has wavered on following through with some of his important MAGA promises.
MBS meets Trump next week. Aramco developed Jafura unconventional gas field,
the largest in the world, to produce electricity. MBS flipped oil for NG. Less oil for internal usage ==> more oil for export. MBS will flood the world with oil. Brent might drop below $60. In the US: lower inflation. Oracle built an underground AI center in Saudi Arabia. Between 11AM and 5PM the temp are between: 30C and 50C. Oil, NG and solar panels compete with each others. They cannibalize each other. They will cannibalize Putin and the Ayatollah. Unconventional gas fields needs advance tech. and methods. They cost more to extract.
doesn’t work anymore mr sleaze. blaming others when you are all over the epstein files.
This is the chickens finally coming home to roost. Republicans have not passed up on a single conspiracy theory the last 35 years – White Water, Vince Foster, Hunter Biden’s laptop, Obama’s birth certificate, Swift boat veterans, Pizzagate, etc etc. Now there’s a big smoking gun that Trump was involved in trafficking, grooming and who knows what else, with underage girls and they can’t escape the trap. I think it’s fantastic.
Solid overview, and interesting comments … Trump Media, DJT equity valuation hit a 4 year low on 14 Nov 2025. The 14 trading days with lower valuations in Sept and Oct 2021, will very likely be eclipsed this week. Investment opportunities in Atlantic City casinos are still available.
“Turns out the Golden Age of MAGA was an Epstein cover-up, 600,000 Chinese students, H1-B jobs for Indians, massive deficits, pardons for fraudsters & drug traffickers, blowing up boats, 50 year mortgages, tariffs on everything, higher prices, a ballroom, & al-Qaeda in the Oval.”
So the score is:
Clinton 512 out of 2324 emails
Trump 1,670 out of 2324 emails
“WINNING BIGLY”
Epstein and Trump hated each other as MWS commentators hate Trump.
If u are not a member of TACO^21 u suffer from TWS. Epstein: the Gerald Ford, sailing near the US, is going to strike Venezuela.
This pissing match between Trump, his MAGA gang, and the Democrats best be careful unless someone accidently releases something damning…i.e., all roads lead back to Israel.
That’s the big fear: if the American people ever found out over the last couple decades that trillions of their tax dollars were embezzled out of the country to Israel with Epstein as the point man in their honeypot operations, that would cause a seismic shift in US’s Middle Eastern policy. Most would want Israel cut off entirely.
<<<Most would want Israel cut off entirely.>>>
These things have a series of strong next moves. What will Turkey do, given that they want to be the super-power of the Middle East? What will Russia do? The Europeans?
What will the US influence be in the Middle-East after they ditch Israel? (assuming the US will also lose Egypt in the process).
What will the millions of undocumented military age Muslims in the US and Europe do? Nobody’s even sure of their real full names.
It’s not the first time Jews put themselves in a political corner, causing damage to their allies in the process. What can the US do, to avoid becoming a bus station for Islamic conquest?
So you are afraid of the truth coming out?
Trump obviously is!
My long response is pending approval. But why would I be afraid? I have no political affiliations, no assets in the US, no government money.
The MWS commentators are clueless.
Who murdered Epstein: Willie, Billie or Summers
Earth to Frosty. “Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clintons wedding. This is after Epsteins conviction and everyone knew Ghislaine was Epsteins pimp.
But hey, keep on spouting your theories as if they are facts when you ignore the big one right in front of you and never a word about Clinton
You have THS. Trump Hysterical Syndrome
Epstein whores embezzled trillions to Israel.
Next Tue MBS will visit the US. He may get his F-35 and Join the Avraham accord. Two years ago Hamas struck to stop MBS. Two years ago the Gulf states were sandwiched between Yemen and Shia Iran. The Ayatollah wants MBS to warship Qom. The US aid to Israel was very small in dollar terms. 80% of it was produced in the US. In the next few years Israel will become less dependent on aid from the US. Many members of the Tucker/Fuentes club are liberal Jews. Many voted for Mamdani.
Slick Willy should have stick with the saxophone instead of fooling around with that hormonica.
Maybe this will help:
https://www.thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?tf=politics_and_ot_topics&msg=14439&cmd=r&t=
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
Any politician voting against the release of the complete Epstein files is an accomplice in the obstruction of justice.
Release them all and let the chips fall…
One of the sickest Trump quotes I recall was spoken on the air during a Howard Stern show appearance. In the content of a discussion regarding sex with young women, Trump was asked if he had any age limit? His reply?
“No, I don’t have any age limit”
Yes but you are assuming it means he’d have sex with under age girls.
You could ask that same question to plenty of men and get the same answer that Trump gave with the tacit understanding between the questioner and answerer that it mean ‘legal’ girls.
The fact Stern didn’t follow up with a specific question (or make a joke) about under age girls shows that he was asking about people of legal age.
Given the fact that Trump also stated that he was angry and had a falling out with Epstein for “Stealing” one of his “girls” (who was 14 years old?) I’d say the sad reality is that Trump is in fact a pedophile. Why else would he spin out about the files? If he were innocent, he would be happy to release them.
Do you have any compassion, empathy or desire for justice for the victims?
Organized protection of a crime, criminal or criminals violates the RICO Act. Is Congress and the Senate ready for that challenge?
Who does Trump work for?
Didn’t Trump say the Epstein files are old news and a hoax as well and to forget them?
So was Covid. I think he has used the “Hoax” defense a few times too often.
My goodness, just move past this BS already. Behind the scenes, if you can gather enough evidence to get a Grand Jury Involved, then have at it, Otherwise Let It Go!!!
This only suggest, that we Should Possibly watch what our Politicians are doing a bit closer, and How They Are Behaving in Public, as a General Rule Perhaps?
Maybe Truly Speed Up FOIA Request, to help eliminate Speculation?
“Otherwise Let It Go!!!”
Uh, no I don’t think we will. We need to give the American people what they want, ALL the Epstein files. ALL OF THEM. The fact that every Trumper here is annoyed by it means there’s something there and you guys just want it to all go away. It won’t.
We’re annoyed by the misguided obsession.
I’m fine with all of the files being released.
There’s nothing in them that’s going to send Trump to jail. NOTHING!
But what I have a major problem with is how the Dems are going to use the salacious this & that to try to influence the mid-terms. And that’s wrong.
This has been ongoing for more than 10 years now which is a big part of what’s keeping Congress from doing their job for the people.
I Stated “if you can gather enough evidence to get a Grand Jury Involved, then have at it, Otherwise Let It Go!!!”
If no Laws can be proven to be broken, and there is no way to get a Grand Jury involved, then there’s nothing to be done. Therefore It’s Nobody’s Business TG!! Would you want your life to be open to thePublic, because your neighbor said she/he saw you with (Insert Here). I didn’t think so…
I am not a Trumper, whatever that implies, but I do prefer Facts over Fiction, and Right over Wrong in the general sense.
My point is not to let anyone off the hook for anything, and I too want all “Pertinent Files” released as well. Let’s not hold this in the “Court of Public Opinion” is all I am suggesting. It’s nonsense.
It’s wrong to simply suggest guilt over stories, lies, misconceptions, misunderstandings etc. Let the work be done, and if there is something, then do what’s necessary for punishment, if any!!
“if you can gather enough evidence to get a Grand Jury Involved, then have at it, Otherwise Let It Go!!!”
Total silliness.
The only way to find evidence is to release all the files.
You are content to sweep any chance of evidence under the rug.
– Total silliness. > That’s Not what I said. I said “Behind the scenes, if you can gather enough evidence” I’m just overly tired of the way these issues are handled of late. I agree 100% that “Total Silliness” is in fact occurring, but that’s my point, it’s with the coverage of it all.
>> When did we stop gathering evidence first, behind the scenes, before announcement of guilt, and “hang him/her high” so to speak is the Buzz! Enough to Know You Have Something first should be in order. Not innuendos or accounts of Etc. But rather Evidence. This Pre-Judgement, Trick if you will, only gets the MSM riled up, and the base (both) too. They don’t even know anything yet.
– The only way to find evidence is to release all the files. > Yes, but Not to the Public Yet! I agree 100% once again, that we should gather up (release) all the files, and review them totally and thoroughly before any Public Announcements go out.
>> Not keeping anything from anyone, but rather pertinent information, with factual evidence to back it up, to hint it may be going someplace, but this (whatever it is) is ALL WE KNOW at the moment. No blaming parties or individuals until it’s somewhat concrete, and not lies and innuendos…
– You are content to sweep any chance of evidence under the rug. > That I didn’t say either, I implied that if there is not enough evidence and factual data to be found, then Shut Up!!! Don’t need to involve the press or the Public about a non-issue, made up, implied, suggested or otherwise, WITH NO FACTS, and NO EVIDENCE to speak of yet. That Mish, is “Total Silliness”
We officially have a pedophile in chief. We probably had one before and didn’t know it . I say release all the epstein files and face the consequences. Until we know how all this was used against those in power, it will keep happening. This goes for both parties..
Back in the 2010s I kept getting offers for work in Doha and other places in the middle east. I think this was actually the Iranian government. And it was for large sums of money. The same.happen from Russia as well. I never came close to entertaining them because it looked very fishy.
The lesson here is once you cross that line , it becomes blurred and then you don’t even realize it.
I think until we get foreign interference and money out of our elections, we are doomed. I think our politicians have been corrupted to act against the interest of the citizenry. That cannot end until you force the money to stop flowing to politicians. We are headed in the completely opposite direction.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.” (Beyond Good and Evil, 146)? Nietzsche
The thought applies to many of life’s choices
<<We officially have a pedophile in chief.>>
If you’re so convinced, then let him convert to Islam, in which case it’ll be permissible, right?
Give it a try and see what the judge says.
Nick Fuentes – “Trump Lied To You About The Epstein Files”
https://rumble.com/v71pg04-trump-lied-to-you-about-the-epstein-files.html?e9s=src_v4_sa_o%2Csrc_v1_sa%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
Wow. Nick quoting the New York Times! Trump has managed to bring left and right together to call out his lies.
At this point we must ask how many files, pics and videos have been destroyed? Everything must be secured, preserved and released with only the information that would identify the victims suppressed.
We get the government we deserve.
Well some of us do. MAGA and non voters are getting “the govt they deserve”, the rest of us suffer for their stupidity and ignorance.
republic penned by plato said that exactly. it’s true. amerikans are assholes. so we elect assholes. democracy works. always has.
The primary damage of the Epstein issue to Trump is due to his reaction. Even if nothing incriminating is found in the documents released, he has screwed himself royally by his infantile response. He is not mature enough to lead.
He is not SANE enough to lead. 86/47 by whatever legal means necessary!
I cannot believe that Bill Clinton has slept with two failed politicians now. Things just keep getting dumber.
I believe Bill Clinton would have had sex with anything that walked, talked or crawled on it’s belly like a reptile.
70s Bill is a scary thought…. But to let trump do that to him? Gross!
ZH: Democratic political operatives initiated a coordinated propaganda attack centered on releasing Jeffrey Epstein’s emails and promoting a range of narratives targeting President Trump, including claims that he and Epstein shared a Thanksgiving dinner in 2017. The Trump team has since responded, with the Department of Justice and the FBI set to begin investigations into “Epstein’s involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, and Reid Hoffman.”
Let’s begin here: The email dump occurred on the same day Trump signed legislation ending the record-long government shutdown, a shutdown driven by the Democratic Party’s decision to hold government funding hostage, triggering nationwide travel disruptions and SNAP funding outages.
What’s clear is that the Democratic Party staked heavily on the Jeffrey Epstein email narrative. Bloomberg data shows that headlines mentioning “Epstein” were minimal throughout the shutdown, but as soon as Trump signed the bill to reopen the government, putting Democrats in a very unfavorable position and creating terrible optics in the news cycle, their propaganda cannon was fired.
Dude, ZH is my first go-to for news every day, but any rational person realizes the political bent there.
Trump and MAGA got where they are under conspiracies, and Trump is going over the top to stop the exposure of rapists from the highest oligarchy that rallied MAGA. MTG and others will outlast Trump, and (R)s are starting to realize that he’s gone soon and his crime family will soon see the other side of justice when the (D) takes over.
Here in Western PA (Trump country) there are no signs anymore, and there are very few who even open their mouth in support.
A HUGE change from 6 months ago.
You are upset because politicians are being politicians. I nominate you for – hoot of the day.
Daddy’s goin down, and not on Bill this time.
“ONE NATION UNDER BLACKMAIL”
– Whitney Webb
Five Answers
Change the operant ideas in a system and you change the realities in that system. Change your mind by looking at the realities a new APPLIED idea/paradigm creates…and you’ll be wiser than 99% of those who cling to the problems of the present anomalous paradigm because they don’t have the guts to look past their own orthodoxies.
“The deficit isn’t a real problem because the interest on the treasuries
areis actually a payment to the private sector.”Sounds like something Krugman a MMT zealot would say. Are you related?
I bet the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, North Koreans all know exactly what’s been going on……… They do not even need nuclear weapons, hypersonic missiles or weapons of any kind.
They secretly triggered a 50 gigaton stuponitron bomb in our upper atmosphere in 2016.
You can still see it in the spectrum of the chem trails, and in the Labubu craze.
A lot of us Dems are listening to Greene, because she is talking like a centrist.
Greene is dividing her electorate, she will lose her re-election campaign unless Trump becomes totally powerless in her district or is gone. Even then a democrat may have a chance if she survives a primary.
Greene has gone far beyond just being a rep for her district. She has stood up to the President of the US. The world is watching her.
She may lose, but who cares. Other roles await her.
She’s a swindler, that surprisingly turned out to be smarter than the rest.
Still a swindler:
Who is shaking most in the world?
Donald Trump?
Bill Clinton?
Larry Summer?
Bill Gates?
Or
No, no, no.
The most shaking person is thousands miles away from Washington.
He is Israel Prime Minister, Netanyahu,
Epstein ( linked to Israeli intelligence ) recruited
Young, beautiful, underaged, white girls ( not even Blacks or Asians )
to serve American Oligarchs blackmailing
and hijacking the US foreign policy for decades.
I feel the sheeple are missing the big picture, the US is at the end stages of it’s existence, rotting from the inside out.
So basically The Grifter in Chief is saying “I’m guilty & I’ll take everyone down with me cuz you all are too”.
Kind of like a Law and Order SVU episode…It would make a great one, if they have the kahunas to do it…
Better a Ken Burns serial on PBS. But we’d have to wait a hundred years.
I think South Park would be more appropriate.
Eventually Trump will be forced to release the Epstein files. However, any damaging info in the files will be scrubbed before release. Even if all were released, there is little if anything in them. Do you really think the Mossad (or CIA, MI6 or whoever) would leave the really damaging information lying around for the feds to get hold of? The hidden video cams fed right back to Tel Aviv, or MI6 or Langley, whatever. Honeytrap operations set up by intelligence agencies are protected. You’d never find them on Epstein’s cell phone or VHS tapes socked away in Epstein’s safe in one of his mansions. I think you are very naive if you believe otherwise.
I don’t even think it matters if nothing is released that’s a smoking gun. Clearly they’re all corrupt & the system has been exposed as corrupt. Most of em are one foot in the grave anyway, will never pay for their evils in this world. The damage though is done, a mortal wound to the US.
“Clinton was in 512 out of 2,324 threads, almost all of them pre-2016”
Makes sense. CGI (the global initiative) became a lot less valuable after Hil lost!
The Epstein files are a distraction, if you’re conservative. All Epstein materials have been reviewed by both Obama & Biden DOJ / FBI. If there was ANYTHING in these files that was actionable that warranted an investigation into Trump for prosecution, then this would have happened years ago. There have been too many eyeballs to cover anything up. That’s an immovable object / fact. As such, this is nothing more than continued knives out election interference.
BTW, I would be fine with burning it all down to prosecute anyone, including TACO, but I don’t see a path around that immovable fact noted above.
“If there was ANYTHING in these files that was actionable that warranted an investigation into Trump for prosecution, then this would have happened years ago.”
Then why is Trump blocking the release if there is nothing there? He campaigned on releasing all the files. Checkmate bruh.
Seems the only real distraction are comments like this saying it’s a distraction by the TWS cult.
Checkmate, my ass. In case you haven’t noticed, a crap ton of files have been released under Trump. In fact, WAY MORE than your boy Brain Dead Joe Biden released.
What part of election interference do you not get? What’s left will just make Trump, Clinton, Larry, Prince A & many others look kind of bad but nobody’s going to jail.
Again, TWS my ass. You must have not read my last sentence. I’m fine with Trump going down, if there was evidence to do so. THERE’S NOT!!!
So if there’s nothing there why won’t be release all of them Ben? This isn’t a hard question.
1) he’s guilty of something. 2) leverage over people who are guilty of things. 3) protecting relationship with israel. so, 2 out of 3 …
My God, you people can’t read.
ELECTION INTERFERRENCE
The release will do nothing to hold anyone accountable. All it’s going to do is make people look bad to varying degrees.
That’s right Ben! Raping children does look bad! You know what looks worse though? Defending a bunch of child rapists. It’s definitely enough to make me wonder about you Ben.
Yep, BenW is quite something, like most Trump worshippers these days. Some $880 Million $ has been paid out as victim compensation to Epstein’s underage girl prostitutes who were victimized by these rich pedophiles. Some have committed suicide, the rest had their lives ruined…but that’s OK with BenW types, because Trump says so.
The real reason the files won’t be released are because they implicate most of the Western leaderhsip “elite”, as a classs and Israel and MI6 and the CIA. Too many Deep State oxen can get gored there. Trump, as a servant of the “elite” who sponsor him, can’g go against that. I doubt he himself was personally involved, but that does not matter now, he looks guilty as hell for fighting so hard to cover it up.
You are correct in one respect. In America the rich and powerful get away with just about anything or get a slap on the wrist at most.
We need more Luigis. The government doesn’t protect us anymore, so we need to protect ourselves.
We can read…. And our reactions are telling you that your ideas are stupid and pathetic.
Read them. Understand.
Garbage person simps for pedophile and Bill blower.
here’s what you have going against you, which isn’t to say Trump’s hands are clean, but you should be more cautious at this point. the laptop was real. Donald Trump was never a Russian agent. covid came from a lab and Wuhan china. the vaccine did not stop you from getting covid. the border was not secure. Joe biden’s brain was not secure either for that matter. the fine people quote was a hoax. as recently as last week the BBC edited audio of trump to make him sound guilty of something for which he was innocent. biological men have advantages in women’s sports. castrating 8-year-olds is not in line with science. would you like me to go on, or is this sufficient enough for you to at least question the information you get.
WTF are you talking about? There you go again with your Trump Worship Syndrome. We’re talking about releasing the files, why is Trump blocking it? I don’t know what the rest of your diatribe has to do with anything.
Trump’s presidency is over, if you haven’t figured it out yet then you’re outing yourself a one of those dumb TWS repubs.
It’s OVER!
Bwahahahahahaha!
we’re talking about information. you probably still think ivermectin is horse dewormer, genius.
you’re so reactive you didn’t even see the part where I said Trump very well may be caught up in this crap. typical of Lefty crybaby. I’m sure I could go back to previous threads and see where you were talking about how Trump’s presidency was over in the first time because he was a Russian agent. when will you learn to not trust the information sources you have.
So about that Russia thing. Have you read the one where he asks if Putin still has that picture of Trump blowing Bubba? I’m sure that has nothing to do with Trump being a stooge though!
I did. let’s see if you have. who was that email exchange between?
also, let’s just be clear. you believe that Donald Trump gave Bill Clinton a blowjob? you really believe that? please answer.
And that’s beyond the pale why exactly? Please, do entertain everyone with an explanation of why the child trafficker is calling Trump dirty, confirming he knew about the girls, blowin’ bubba, having Thanksgiving with Epstein in 2017, so on and so on. Connect the dots and enlighten us with the plausible explanation that isn’t “he’s a rapist creep”.
you didn’t answer the question. do you believe donald trump gave bill clinton a blow job?
probably did NOT swallow. if AR that ain’t sex.
all these words and yelling from you and yet i ask you two simple questions in the above two posts. you haven’t answered either. I don’t blame you.
it’s interesting how much you lefti’s care about kids all of a sudden when we’re talking about something other than lost migrant children and or children murdered/taken by hamas. searching for previous threads for your comments on either of those topics and yet I find nothing. I know, shocking.
It is entirely within the realm of possibility… and it drives you trumphumpers nuts, so ill ’believe’ it like you ‘believe’ the 2020 election was stolen.
do you believe Donald Trump was a Russian agent? do you believe ivermectin is horse dewormer? do you believe the border was secure under biden? do you believe Joe biden’s brain was healthy while he was president? do you believe covid happened because a bat fucked a turtle? all of these things are within the realm of possibility, except for the fact that they are blatantly false. I am not the one who has suffered from poor information sources over the years. it’s funny listening to people who know nothing about my politics call me a trump supporter simply because I question information we get these days. keep advertising yourself as a bunch of reactive leftist crazies. it suits you well, and it does the country good for you to expose yourselves further. maybe go burn some Tesla’s because you don’t like something Elon musk said.
Over in what way? You think he’s going to be removed from office like Nixon? That would be my definition of over.
Anything else is just running down the clock for 2+ years after midterms which is what was done to Biden .
Pull the other one
You support and defend a child rapist. You are garbage on legs.
coming from a guy who gets his information from Don lemon. you’re funny.
MTG is just the first of the rats leaving the sinking ship.
I would agree that MAGA is splintering. There’s certainly a schism just like what’s taking place with the Dems. The AFPAC is what’s on the rise now on the conservative side with Socialism gaining traction on the left. The Dems have their Mamdani, AOC, Ohmar & others, while the conservatives have their Fuentes, Carlson, MTG & others.
There’s a palpable move to the far left & far right, so you know what comes sooner rather than later?
CIVIL WAR
balkanization, which is already happening, is far more likely than civil war … and if i’m wrong, the left would lose in 8 seconds.
IMHO, we’re already balkanized.
pls note that’s what i said.
Vast tracts of America are lost to your dipshittery, and suffering for it.
As is proper. Stupid SHOULD hurt, and I can feel your pain from here.
did you mother have any kids that lived?
“Civil War”
Not going to happen our coming ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) overloads will not permit it. They may instead decide that humans are worthless eaters and a waste of resources then eliminate all or almost all of us.
The utter insanity here is that this is an exact repeat of Trump’s first presidency. Chris Christie, Scaramucci and others were all in on Trump then came to their senses so MTG isn’t the first one to wise up. The process just shows who the “slow dumb” people are within the republican party. Any moron that didn’t learn from Trumps first go round just outs themselves as ultra dummy. At least MTG shows she has some level of intelligence albeit slow to show.
It’s very entertaining though, just got a case of popcorn and vomit bags for the next batch of Epstein emails.
By the way….why are the Trumpers so quiet suddenly? Where’s Doug78, BenW, TexasTim? You guys come to your senses yet or going to keep doubling down on the clown?
see my reply above, genius.
I’ve never doubled down on Trump nor do I plan to.
I’ve repeatedly said I hate his tariff policies as they are idiotic and stupid. Hopefully he TACO’s on all of them.
But the other things he did (closing the border, deporting illegals, ending DEI, getting men out of womens sports/locker rooms, pulling out of crazy green policies / EV mandates, cracking down on crime, eliminating government waste etc) I continue to agree with 100%. Some of the methods need adjustment for sure, but those policies were the ones that got him elected.
I wonder where all those unaccounted for Mexican kids are going! Certainly not an island of some sort I hope!
I hope he pulls the plug on your senior care next.
Only the pretty ones.
She had me fooled. I judged her by that Neanderthal face of hers, and that was clearly a mistake.
Typical taco response when he gets caught in a lie or commiting some sort of crime. Even the MAGA’s don’t buy his bs on this one.
Trump Calls for an Epstein Investigation Into Everyone But Him
i think it’s pretty clear there’s already an epstein investigation into trump … why not include everyone else?
I have nothing to add, so I’ll talk about $Melania meme coin.
Q: Is it too late to buy $Melania meme coin?
A: No. You can still buy it as its still above its actual value of zero and hasn’t been de-listed yet.
Taco Trump is acting more and more like a tin pot banana republic dictator as documented in this post. I suspect he has a lot of baggage he does not want exposed to ruin his legacy and he is worried; obviously it is keeping him up at night.
i think you are wrong. the tide is turning now fast.Folks i know who were loyal supporters are questioning him
He doesn’t want the American People to know what he did to that big beautiful Bill.
Maybe Trump is protecting his super best friend, Israel.
What a show. Donaldo Trumpolini needs war with Venezuela now!
Keep in mind: it’s not about the oil, it’s about the ‘narco-terrorists’.
OMG- your statement regarding Clinton “socializing” with Epstein in the 90’s is amongst the most fabulous liberal camouflage ever.
Remember the media back then referring to Epsteins jet as “Air F^@k One” when Clinton was on all those flight logs???- I do!!!
Thank you for calling that out. I have been saying that for a few years. Democrats are protecting Bill Clinton here.
lol… circle the wagons and pile up the bullshit, piggies…. Daddy’s goin down.
Protecting Bill Clinton from what? The guy was caught having sex in the White House with an intern, there was an impeachment process and $70 million spent. The guy is 79 years old. What exactly does he need protecting from?
Oh wait a minute, you mean democrats don’t want you to know Bill Clinton and Trump are gay! Now I get it.
Well according to the emails it was Trump servicing bubba on the plane so…
Trump is a royal clusterfuck. I suspect a majority of our useless corrupt political class were frequent flyers there like Billy boy. I suspect after a successful suppression of the evidence somehow the shit show will be leaked out.
Zeteo Scoured 26,000 Epstein Docs. Here’s What We FoundYou can search and review the emails here. Read what Epstein said about Trump, and his emails with Peter Thiel, Steve Bannon, Ehud Barak, and Larry Summers.
https://zeteo.com/p/epstein-26000-emails-read-search-trump-summers-thiel
and Emails Reveal Jeffrey Epstein Money Financed Bitcoin Core Development
https://www.therage.co/epstein-bitcoin-core/