US in Talks With Europe to Ban Russian Oil, With Poland to Supply Planes

UU Secretary of State on Meet the Press, YouTube video clip

On NBC’s Meet the Press with Chuck Todd, secretary of state Antony Blinken discussed sending planes to Ukraine via Poland and with the EU on banning Russian oil.

On Planes to Ukraine

Todd: This idea of essentially U.S. fighter jets to Poland; in exchange, Poland sends Russian-made jets to Ukraine – is that going to happen? And how quickly can it happen?

Blinken: We’re talking very actively about this, looking at what we can do to backfill Poland if it chooses to send the MiGs and the Su planes that it has to Ukraine, how we can help by backfilling what they’re giving to the Ukrainians. So that’s in very active discussion as we speak.

Todd: So we are 100 percent going to do this? If any of these NATO nations that have these Russian-made planes donate them to the Ukrainian – Ukraine, we’re going to backfill if they’re NATO Allies?

Blinken: Well, look. We’ve got to – we have to work through each case on its own merits. We’ve got to make sure we’re able to do something if that’s what a country is requesting in return for sharing the jets that they have.

On Oil

Todd:  I know as late as last week there was still – the administration was saying no, we can’t do the 100 percent ban. Has your mind changed? Has the administration’s mind changed on this? Are you looking at a full embargo on Russian and gas – Russian gas and oil?

Blinken: Chuck, I spoke to the President and the cabinet, the leading members of the cabinet, about this just yesterday from Europe. And we are now in very active discussions with our European partners about banning the import of Russian oil to our countries while, of course, at the same time maintaining a steady global supply of oil. The actions we’ve taken to date have already had a devastating impact on the Russian economy. We see the ruble in freefall. We see the economy heading into a deep recession. We’ve already had a major impact. But we are looking – again, as we speak – in coordination with allies and partners at this prospect of banning oil imports.

Todd: So it’s interesting you added the “in coordination.” We will not do this unilaterally? The United States is not going to do this unilaterally?

Blinken: A hallmark of everything we’ve done to date has been this coordination with allies and partners. We are much more effective across the board when we’re doing things together in as close a coordination as possible. There are instances where we each do something a little bit different, but it complements the whole. So in the first instance, we want to make sure that we’re acting in coordination. I’m not going to rule out taking action one way or another irrespective of what they do, but everything we’ve done, the approach starts with coordinating with allies and partners.

How Long Will This Go On?

Todd: We’re getting towards the end of the second week of this conflict. Can this still end diplomatically with Vladimir Putin in charge of Russia?

Blinken: I think we have to be ready that this could go on for some while. The sheer force that Russia can bring to bear – the manpower, the expanse of its military – has the potential to keep grinding down these incredibly brave and resilient Ukrainians. But here’s the thing. Winning a battle is not winning a war. Taking a city is not taking the hearts and minds of Ukrainians. And what we’ve learned over the past couple of weeks is that they will fight to the end for their country – and if it takes a week, if it takes a month, if it takes a year. … It may take some considerable time to play out. We want it to end as quickly as possible, with Ukraine having its independence, its territorial integrity, its sovereignty. But I think we need to be prepared for this going on for some time.

The complete interview is posted at the US Secretary of State website Secretary Blinken With Chuck Todd of NBC News

YouTube Video 

Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia followed Blinken on Meet the Press. He starts at about the 17:30 mark. 

Manchin supports sending planes to Ukraine via Poland and a unilateral US ban on Russian oil whether the EU goes along or not.

On climate change Manchin stated “Our energy that we produce in America is better and cleaner than anywhere else in the world.” Anything we backfill is better than anything they produce.”

It’s an interesting discussion that follows.

Blinken’s Tightrope Attempt

Returning to the Secretary of State:

Q: How do you ban Russian oil and make it stick, while maintaining a steady global supply of oil at prices that don’t skyrocket? 

A: You don’t. There is no tightrope because there is no rope at all.

Nor is there a cohesive plan on anything. 

$180 Oil?

Unintended Consequences

President Biden

Team Biden Headed to Venezuela 

How stupid is this?

U.S. Officials Meet With Regime in Venezuela, to Discuss Oil Exports to Replace Russia’s

In rare meeting, the two sides discuss lifting of U.S. sanctions that have barred Venezuelan oil exports to American refineries.

The proposals being discussed in the Venezuelan capital would ease sanctions for a limited period on U.S. national security grounds. Since the Trump administration began turning the economic screws on Venezuela in 2017 and then leveled sanctions on the oil sector in 2019, Caracas has come to rely on China, Russia and Iran to keep its oil sector afloat. As of 2020, Petróleos de Venezuela SA, the country’s state oil company, was producing about 300,000 barrels a day.

That sanction on Venezuela sure worked, just as Trump’s sanction on Iran. 

And now we will tell Venezuela we will “temporarily” remove them on grounds of our national security.

Has everyone gone mad?

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JRM
JRM
2 years ago
Venezuela will demand all their assets be unfrozen, their embassy returned!!
JRM
JRM
2 years ago
Watch Russia impose its own NO FLY ZONE over Ukraine and Belarus will be involved!!
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
“That sanction on Venezuela sure worked, just as Trump’s sanction on Iran. 

And now we will tell Venezuela we will “temporarily” remove them on grounds of our national security.

Has everyone gone mad?”

Just stupid. Emphasis _everyone_. Life in the DumbAge.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
Stuff happens.  Changes need to be made.  [shrug]
dtj
dtj
2 years ago
“Germany rejects boycott of Russian oil and gas”
How dare Germany defy the U.S.? Maybe Lindsey Graham should fly over to Germany and shut off the pipeline himself. Then force feed the Germans “Freedom Fries”. /s
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  dtj
Where are you referencing this from?
dtj
dtj
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  dtj
Failure to do so means they are still beholden to Russia and the whims of its leader.  Sometimes you have to bite the bullet and act like this is a real war, in which case, there would be no oil coming in at all.  The longer everyone gives Putin revenue, the longer he can continue to hold out.
Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Like I noted in an earlier comment and this only makes it more probable if it comes to pass. A spike in oil prices could go to $300 barrel, then we’d have a monstrous crash. I can’t believe these fools are serious.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
So $200 is not good enough now.  $300 you say?  Do I hear $400?  How about gold at $2500?
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Biden: “We have to treat climate change like the existential threat it is.”
Gaslighting.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
 “The actions we’ve taken to date have already had a devastating impact on the Russian economy.’
KTLA “News” this morning was noting that the average price for gasoline locally, was 5.38 yesterday. Even higher today. One man interviewed, said he used 2 credit cards to spend $110 to fill up his truck for a landscaping business. The price becomes a serious issue for those in the L.A. area who have a long commute to work. Some people live up in Palmdale/Lancaster and drive over 60 miles one way.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
C’mon.  Everybody’s rich!  Spend less on lottery tickets or Starbucks.  Take some equity out of our house.  Or cash in some stocks, which are still not down all that much.
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
My personal gut feeling is that there will be an eventual ban on import of Russian Oil with a planned drawdown of the SPR and other world reserves.  There will also be strong incentives laid out for domestic production to immediately increase ASAP with the SPR buying time for them.
With a 5 million barrel deficit that will buy nearly 5 months assuming the USA bears 100% of all the shortage, which won’t of course happen.  There will also be some demand destruction that will help.
And….let’s not forget that Iran can make a deal and immediately bring on another million barrels a day or so.

And of course, it’s all pointless because China will be buying all the extra Russian oil at a discount, and if they don’t just store it but use it to replace the oil they import from elsewhere we are just playing musical chairs with oil with no or little net worldwide effect on oil supplies, other than some disruption as things get sorted out.  We were already in shortage however.

Of course, news of an SPR drawdown to zero should send oil to 200 a barrel immediately, but at least we’ll have it!
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Of course, all bets are off if the war ends, Putin launches a nuclear weapon, or China takes Taiwan.

Very risky investing environment.

Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Probably also China will want to spare its own natural ressources (in gas, oil, coal, minerals) for the future, and will be very pleased to replace them with Russian ones (at a good price).
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
While I suppose on some level one should never underestimate the ability of commies to do economically stupid stuff; the Chinese ones don’t seem to be quite illiterate enough to want to artificially weaken their own industry by allowing it to become dependent on what would effectively be temporarily subsidized energy. Which resolves to Chinese traders bidding up the price for Russian oil, to not much below that which they would bid for oil from anywhere else.
Remember: There’s not one dude named “China.” Just as there is not one dude named “The World.” Instead, both aggregates are simply shorthand for thousands of individual decision makers looking to maximize their own utility. Each of them bidding against eachother being what ultimately determines the going market price for oil.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
If China takes Russian oil at a discount, that will free up other oil they were importing for other countries.  So net change worldwide might be close to zero.
Also, believe that there is arm twisting going on with SA and other ME countries to open the spigots.
JRM
JRM
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Saudi Arabia told the USA to stuff it!!
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  JRM
MBS will be made to pay a steep price for his recalcitrance to support the West.  Perhaps he will be “removed” in the future, either on a stretcher or by displacement after invasion.  Or we could just charge him double or triple to maintain his fleet of US fighter jets.

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