In response to the clots, the U.S. Paused J&J COVID-19 Vaccinations.
U.S. federal health agencies on Tuesday recommended pausing the use of Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine after six women under 50 given the shot developed rare blood clots, dealing a fresh setback to efforts to tackle the pandemic.
Following the news, Johnson & Johnson (J&J) said it was delaying the rollout of the vaccine to Europe, a week after regulators there said they were reviewing rare blood clots in four recipients of the shot in the United States.
“Even if causally linked to the vaccine: 6 cases with about 7 million doses (lower than the risk of clots with oral contraceptives) is not something to panic about,” Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease expert at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Baltimore, said in an email.
“People are asking me if they should cancel their J&J vaccine appointments and I have told them not to but I know many will and this will stall progress in controlling the pandemic.”
The Math
6 Clots in 7 million Doses is less than 1 in a million.
In percentage terms, it is 0.000086%. That is less than the rate of clotting from oral contraceptives.
The interesting part is that mainly females are affected. pic.twitter.com/SuiB5rh8Uk
— John Inkognito (@Comed_scien315) April 13, 2021
And we do not even know if these are simply random clotting issues or related to the vaccine.
In short, this is an exceptional over-reaction by US and EU health agencies who halted the AstraZeneca vaccine over similar issues.
Mish
The vaccines are all a hack anyway…no FDA approval…not very good against the mutations.
Can you imagine what they’re thinking in Africa when countries are banning AstraZeneca and pausing JNJ. Africa is not getting Pfizer or Moderna but the Astra Zeneca. Of course they’re thinking they’re getting the rejects that Rich White countries don’t want. Fair or not that will be the reaction and people won’t get vaccinated.
Do you say the same thing when a few people get shot in a mass murder? I mean, just a few people each month in a population of 330 mn is noise. And there is no evidence that those people died of their gunshot wounds. It could have been anything, really. I mean, if we want to live in Walter Mitty land why not say anything you want? Why not just say that a few lives are an “acceptable loss” for the greater good? Instead of writing these people’s needless deaths off as nothing at least you can give them some credit for having donated their life to a science experiment.
It’s not a pause so much as a fermata
Nuclear power was killed in this country after it had caused fewer deaths, and still has caused fewer deaths than have resulted from vaccinations. Had we gone nuclear our contribution to global warming , “the existential threat” that we are willing to spend more than a trillion to fix, would have been almost nothing.
The problem with fission nuclear power is no one is in agreement as to what to do with the waste material. Fusion will solve that problem and each year, they get closer to taming it.
I know that countless physicists have been attempting to create a workable fusion reactor, but are they really that close to perfecting the process? I don’t expect a fusion reactor to be on-line until 2050 at the earliest, but maybe I’m wrong.
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This “pause” is very strange. As Mish indicated, the rate of clotting for the JJ vaccine is less than that of oral contraceptives. I get that they want to be cautious, but it seems that yanking the only (if I’m correct) single-shot* vaccine will cause a delay in reaching herd immunity (whatever level that may be).
J&J lobbyists apparently haven’t been greasing the right palms!
Has anyone stopped to consider that they might not be telling all they know? Does everyone really believe anything these liars say? Yeah, subprime was contained and on 911 WTC 7, which was never hit by any aircraft, imploded into its own foot print at the freefall speed of gravity in a cloud of pyroclastic dust. The cause of that was office fires. Well, one office fire on one corner of the building. But hey, in this time of mass gullibility I guess we just believe anything we hear.
We’re all brave in the face of COVID. Those who trust the government and those who insist on being in the control group.
It looks like the virus-based vaccines are doing more damage than the mRNA vaccines.
That was my expectation. An actual virus has more capability of side effects than an mRNA particle that is highly unstable, and will be gone from the body in a very short period of time. Yes, they are new, but I think there will be a long-term benefit of Covid as a proof-of-concept for mRNA vaccines, and in the future, vaccine development will be much, much faster than the 7 years or so that has been typical in the past.
This Blood-clotting effect is just what we know today. We don’t know what mid- and long-term effects J&J and AZ vaccines have.
These vaccines are developed in a hurry, and have not been fully tested, unlike traditional vaccines. So some caution is warranted, not overblown.
J&J and AZ are actually more traditional than Pfizer and Moderna….
Even the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been around for years but just never used on humans until 2020. Most of the research for mRNA vaccines was done during the Ebola crisis in case there was an Ebola outbreak. They’ve sequenced the the ebola virus and have an mRNA vaccine for that just in case.
It’s simply bad p&r to say take this it will protect you from covid , oh and there’s a really really small chance it will kill you. The anti-vaxer are having a field day with this. I’m sure they’ll have JNJ up and running in a few days and possibly better identify at risk groups which they will push to the MRNA vaccines , similar to how Astra Zeneca was handled
There are over 50 positive studies on HCQ. Yes, it does work. At this point, i would take Ivermectin, though.
From the research studies:
The Absolute Risk Reduction of the Pfizer shot is 0.7%.
The Absolute Risk Reduction of the Moderna shot is 1.1%.
In light of theses statistics, i do not find there to be much advantage to taking the shot. A 1% reduction in risk is minimal.
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The likelihood of a side-effect from the JnJ vaccine is “1 in 1.1 million”. The odds of dying of Covid to date in the US is 5.9 in 10,000. If you can’t tell which has the better odds…, maybe don’t take the shot?
How did you arrive at 5.9 out of 10k? Cite?
I think the number is closer to 1.95 out of 10k. 575k odd people have died of Covid (assuming for the sake of this argument that we accept this number as accurate) and the USA population is about 335,000,000. Anyone should be able to do the math.
I don’t know where he got that number but I can come up with a 3rd number: 31m confirmed cases and 575k confirmed deaths = 17.1 out of 10k. If you guess that there have been 60m or so unconfirmed cases then you would get in the neighborhood of his 5.9 number.
You can’t use cases because no one can actually define what a “case” is. Much has been much written about the overcycling of PCR tests, thus revealing very small DEAD remnants of virus DNA. Should dead and therefore non-infectious virus remnants be considered a positive case? I say no.
Then there is the problem that not everyone has gotten a test, some people, like myself, have had multiple tests (required for surgerys I had or were scheduled for and all negative) and finally, that people submitting for a test were already sick, which might skew the numbers.
The only valid calculation is deaths against total USA population.
Insignificant statistically, esspecially considering 600,000 Americans have died from Covid just about, but I get it. First rule of medicine is do no harm. Also keep in mind we have a very strong anti-vax movement in this country and we have experience with the first operation warp speed where a few people suddenly had heart attacks. This is all out of an abundance of caution. Heard the people who succumbed had risk factors but I”m not sure that’s been confirmed.
They were all woman between 18-48. Were they using birth control? That can screw with hormones which might be a contributing factor in their cases.
After the J&J news today I heard crazy lady of doom, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, calling for another national lockdown! Why is this person still CDC Director? Whew.
You’re too kind. My question would be, “Why has nobody begun an involuntary commitment proceeding?”
You can share your thoughts with the White House here:
For anyone cancelling their Covid shot, I’ll gladly line up in your place.
Only one person died, so the odds are 0.000014% vs 3% for the virus. I hope this creates a shift from the country/people that don’t want it to those that do, and doesn’t lead to a stop in production.
There are many in the world that don’t have the luxury for an “abundance of caution”
WHY does China hardly have any Covid cases these days WITHOUT vaccination ?? But hey, have your shot, you can indeed have mine, I for one don t want to be a guinea pig !
Actually China has been vaccinatin gtheir people since last June or so. But as recently revealed, their vaccines are like much of the junk that comes from China, poorly made and ineffective and don’t work reliably.
But yet, as you note, they hardly report any Covid cases, which would be unusual for the country that was the root of the virus and has more than 3X the population of the USA that live in a much more polluted and overall dirty environment.
Which would seem to mean that a placebo vaccine is a as good as no vaccine.
Yes, China officially admitted that their vaccines are only 50% effective, so it must be around 25% 🙂 … China has almost 5x the US population btw….
Deal!
And if you’re basing your convictions on Chinese statistics, I have no sympathy for you.
“In short, this is an exceptional over-reaction by US and EU health agencies who halted the AstraZeneca vaccine over similar issues.”
Overreaction is an apt description for all things Covid since the start of this foolishness a year ago.
How easy so many have been willing to embrace unreasonable Covid fear must say something about our times.
I am sure the 600,000 US dead would embrace your comment
covid, or obesity deaths rather ??
You mean the miniscule 0.18% of the USA population who were apparently genetically weak and susceptible to the virus? Who cares [shrug[?
The number has been inflated. Early on, anyone who died with flu like symptoms was deemed to have died of covid.
Couple of points worth mentioning…..
One is that the medical community needs to get the word that if somebody has these symptoms that it isn’t appropriate to give heparin….clots from this kind of reaction require a different protocol, and the delay gives a chance to get the word out on this
important caveat.
Secondly, because it’s a similar (adenovirus derived) vaccine to the AstraZeneca, the numbers need to be confirmed as far as the incidence. The incidence of clots with the AZ vaccine is more like 1:100, 000.
So the J&J vaccine might be expected to be somewhere in the same ballpark as far as incidence. Time will tell us.
So even though the risk is low, the caution is probably warranted….I expect it will be in use again soon.
Yeah, an overreaction. But doing this allows the two known approved vaccines to continue without impedance from this issue.
As long as the other vaccines are available, I don’t see a downside to being cautious.
The other vaccines have the same issue. it’s just not as widely reported.
Although it seems like over-reaction, the presence of “long-covid” makes it possible that adjusting the body’s way of handling the virus via the vaccine may also have long-term effects in some cases.