Video: Trump Tells Nigel Farage “Corbyn Would Be So Bad”

President Trump Video Interview with Brexit Party Leader

  • Trump says Farage is a “Great Tea Leaf Reader”
  • Trump tell Farage “I would like to see you and Boris get together. You would really have some numbers.”
  • Trump says “Boris is the exact right guy for the times”
  • “Unstoppable force” if Farage and Johnson get together.
  • “Corbyn would be do bad for the country. He would take you into such bad places.”

Johnson Disputes Trump Claim

“The PM negotiated a new deal which ensures that we take back control of our laws, trade, borders and money; a deal which people said he would never negotiate. Under this new deal, the whole of the UK will leave the EU customs union, which means we can strike our own free trade deals around the world from which every part of the UK will benefit.”

I rather doubt this helps Johnson unless it influences Farage to work with Johnson, no strings attached.

I am open to other opinions, so let’s ask.

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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avidremainer
avidremainer
4 years ago

Farage has made what I believe is an impossible demand on the liar. He asks that the liar reneges on his deal with the EU. The liar can’t do that. 4 way general election, first time since the early 1920s.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  avidremainer

Hey, if he’s as good and deeply-engrained a liar as you intimate, he might surprise yet. But to do that, a large number of ‘moderates’ have to be convinced that the Deal stinks and touting it will result in another hung parliament.

In other words, it will have less to do with lying or telling truth, and more to do with what will get over the finish line in good enough shape to fight the good fight for several races more.

avidremainer
avidremainer
4 years ago
Reply to  BaronAsh

I’d look at a used car offered for sale by Farage, and if everything was agreeable buy it, I wouldn’t give the liar the time of day. I can’t see any reason for Farage to trust the guy.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago

Bad mistake this is, Trump venting his opinions on Brexit ! Biased UK and EU msm do not like Trump’s rant so this unnecessary and totally pointless ‘interview’ merely benefits the Remain camp….

HenryV
HenryV
4 years ago

Well as anticipated, its Farage who wants a dialogue with the Tories, but they probably won’t play ball. He is trying to pressurise them by suggesting he would field some candidates here and others not there and I think has outlined the gravity of the Brexit situation. But the Tories are just so damn cocky and chipper with themselves I can’t see it happening. My own constituency, Westmorland and Lonsdale is a LibDem marginal hanging on by a thread with Farron only just getting in last time around. There was a recount. Its ripe to fall into Conservative hands. It would be very easy for Farage to field a candidate here just to screw up the Tory chances of success even with the probability of a LibDem retain. I feel that strongly let down and sincerely hope he does!

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

We’ll see what happens, but I think he laid down a clear, and important, marker: if you don’t take your lousy deal off the table, which ISN’T Brexit AT ALL, we’ll run against you as much as we can. If you do, we’ll go for the traditionally Labour seats you have almost no chance of winning but we do, which means we’ll go Win-Win in a Leave Alliance.

Nigel further pointed out that he doesn’t think the people will back Boris’s deal once they have had time to discuss it further – which wasn’t the case when he tried to push it through in 3 days early last week. And if Nigel is right (and he will be helping to ensure he is with speeches all over the country by himself and fellow Brexiteers, some of whom are formidable speakers too), then Boris and the Tories may well have no choice but to go for the WTA Treaty option (by July 2020), a clear plan which can be simply explained and which will unite the Leavers and indeed guarantee their victory.

It was a very reasonable proposal from a very experienced, if not mainstream, politician. And it has instantly changed the entire election.

HenryV
HenryV
4 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

I read your posts Baron and I would like to think you are right. But I think the Tories, if they get a strong majority will present this BRINO as a TINA (there is no alternative) and push on regardless. There are too many vested interests to see the UK making a clean break of it. Basically the EU will destroy itself sooner or later, probably later with a good deal of civil disturbance and I would like to see the UK as far away from Europe as possible politicaly, economically, financially and socially. But the brino keeps us joined at the hip forevermore. Glum at the prospect but as you say, we will see.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  HenryV

As I read yours…

Before we get to election day itself there are a few phases. The first is now as the Parties figure out which candidates to approve, what slogans work best & worst etc. Sort of market research and product presentation phase if you will.

Then they will be campaigning in earnest, both in the national airwaves with the Head Honchos etc., but also fighting for yards play by play, door to door in the local districts. Things will vary from clear as day to clear as mud but gradually some main aspects will emerge through the fog of war.

At that point, perhaps, it will make sense for TBP and Tories to get tactical. Until then, it’s best if everyone gives it their best shot. It’s more fun for one thing, more positive, more forward-moving, but then also it’s more clarifying.

Although I don’t really disagree with your prognosis, things rarely turn out the way they seem like they could or should so it’s fun trying to anticipate (which is mainly what Mish is doing on this blog). Let’s take one possible outcome: TBP does much better than anticipated and gets closer to 20% than current less than 10%. And is leading quite a few moderate Tories in various seats, not to mention outright leading in districts where the Tories are a distant third or lower. This will show empiracally, unequivocably, that the No Deal contingent has muscle.

And maybe if the moderates are faring poorly, i.e. those only touting the virtues of Boris’ great New Deal, well maybe all this will make them reconsider their position.

On the other hand, if the Faragistas don’t do well and are around 5-7%, most likely they will be taking more Labour than Tory votes in which case No Pact suits the Tories just fine. And this is quite likely too because, like it or not, TBP is a one-issue Party and elections transcend any one (or really any) issues; they become some sort of bizarre, multi-faceted but unique creature each time.

In either case, it’s a mistake to come to an arrangement right now. Nigel has posited November 15th, but I suspect it’s going to be more like Dec 1st before they can talk Christmas Turkey together – if at all.

Boris is going for a Big Win. He is charting a course to emerge as a Great PM, up there with Thatcher and Churchill maybe. He is rising above the current malaise and stagnation and pointing towards a bright future ‘Putting the Great back in Britain!’ (not a bad slogan, eh?), and on the international, cosmopolitan future-engendering World Stage. The more he succeeds in doing this, the more old school, has-been and petit bourgeois Little Englander Corbyn and his motley crew of dingy Council Flat heroes will diminish.

The thing is, that for all her many problems and conflicts, Britain is without question one of the most dynamic, intelligent, quirky, variegated and creative countries and people on the planet. They are still #5 economy (though I find that hard to believe). It’s long overdue her people enjoy more pride and optimism in who they are and how they can live. Boris is the sort of leader who can tap into this entirely natural aspiration and get them to believe that it’s deliverable if they only buy into it.

Of course, it can end up being yet another Establishment-neutered, hog-tied mess. But hope springs eternal….

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic
4 years ago

Well, it is already past 10/31 – is Boris motionless in a ditch yet? Don’t get me wrong, I wish him no mortal ill, but could he lie still for a couple of hours and breathe quietly and at least make us feel a bit better?

Bagger
Bagger
4 years ago

There was a large backlash when Obama made comments about the 2016 Referendum. Trump is wrong to interfere in our election, even if he is correct in what he says about Corbyn. I don’t think this has done Boris any favours. Labour will now go full tilt anti Trump and, by association, Boris.

FloydVanPeter
FloydVanPeter
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

Ditto

FloydVanPeter
FloydVanPeter
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

I don’t understand what Farage was thinking

Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

That is my take as well

HenryV
HenryV
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

Seems to me that Farage was trying to get his POTUS mate to coerce Johnson into a dialogue. Or is that too obvious?

Harry-Ireland
Harry-Ireland
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

‘Interfere’…..aren’t you being a tiny bit hysterical here?
Not everything is a conspiracy, not everything is ‘collusion’….

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

It’ll all be forgotten in a week. Trump’s influence on any issue has a half life of a few days before he does something else stupid and we get to laugh at him again.

Yancey_Ward
Yancey_Ward
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

Well, Corbyn could do some blackface and get Obama to endorse him.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

Seems to me the intention is to try to move Johnson into the No Deal / Clean Exit camp. Because otherwise Farage can’t really give him support, if for no other reason than that most of his supporters find ‘the deal’ pretty awful.

Matt3
Matt3
4 years ago
Reply to  Bagger

Interfere? – He didn’t write a dossier or arrange a dinner to set up an investigation.
Commenting is not interfering. It’s voicing an opinion.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt3

Agree. In the UK we already have one leader who isn’t supposed to voice any opinion about anything political – the Monarch. Obviously those lower down but still in powerful positions – like Presidents and Prime Ministers – need to be careful what they say and don’t say, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t voice their opinions.

In this case, for example, expanding trade agreements with the US – currently the world’s largest economy, close to the UK, speak the same language, the place with the most UK investments already etc. – clearly this is an important after-effect potential of Brexit. The leader of the Brexit Party having an open discussion with the leader of the USA is pretty neat, actually.

It shows that Nigel is someone with world connections – which is good for his standing in the UK generally and in TBP particularly – and he uses the Donald’s position on Brexit to squeeze the Tories in the direction he wants them to go, namely to tear up the ‘Deal’ and go to Geneva to negotiation a proper WTA treaty (which is clearly what should have been done back in 2017).

HenryV
HenryV
4 years ago

We will soon find out but I can’t see the Tory party embracing TBP. They treat Farage like a leper and I suspect are arrogant enough to think they can do it all by themselves. There was a new poll today (published by the Evening Standard, edited by ’you know who’) which shows the Tories in the strongest position yet. I couldn’t work out when the poll was conducted and suspect there was an element of self-interest as there was some talk a month or so ago of Osborne making a political comeback. If it turns out to be the case that the Tories turn their backs on TBP I suspect they are in for a nasty surprise because the latter may end up targeting 40 or 50 Tory and Labour marginals really throw a spanner in the works. My guess is TBP simply don’t have the funds to sponsor a 650 candidate push.

Harry-Ireland
Harry-Ireland
4 years ago

And I hate to parrot Trump, but he’s quite right. Corbyn would be a disaster for the U.K.

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry-Ireland

Yup. No disagreement there. I also contend Boris would be a disaster – the man hasn’t a clue despite the Mish-Worship.

Harry-Ireland
Harry-Ireland
4 years ago

Of course there needs to be a coalition. And I hope TBP stays true to its core mission, which is to deliver Brexit and not some shitty deal. I guess we’ll see what Johnson will come up with and it better be good. He’d better not water down the promise to deliver Brexit. Like so many people here are saying, there’s a lot of anger and people just want the people’s vote to be honoured and a true Brexit (not just in name) to be delivered.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry-Ireland

Farage will make an offer.
The Tories will refuse.
Farage will run strong in many places.
THEN they can talk tactical turkey – to make sure they don’t become such themselves!

themonosynaptic
themonosynaptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry-Ireland

You seen the polls that put “forget this nonsense” ahead of “Brexit” if there was another referendum? You keep going on about the will of the people, but point to any random crowd of 100 Brits and I’ll wager you can’t find 10 who are happy with this fiasco.

Harry-Ireland
Harry-Ireland
4 years ago

Wow. Look, you’re free to have your remainer-position. But there won’t be any second referendum and the first vote won’t be overthrown. Best of luck with the election, let democracy prevail!

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