Long Covid Symptoms
- fatigue
- shortness of breath
- cough
- joint pain
- chest pain
- brain fog, wherein they find it more difficult to think clearly and focus
- depression
- muscle pain
- headache
- fever, which may come and go
- heart palpitations, or a feeling of the heart pounding
- problems with smell and taste
- sleep issues
- memory and concentration difficulties
- anxiety
- mood changes
Symptoms are from Medical News Today.
Although it is still unclear how many people have experienced long COVID, data from the COVID Symptom Study app suggest that 1 in 10 people with the illness experience symptoms for 3 weeks or longer.
Data from the United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics found similar results, with roughly 1 in 10 respondents who tested positive for COVID-19 exhibiting symptoms lasting for a period of 12 weeks or longer.
One found that more than three-quarters of COVID-19 patients in a hospital in Wuhan, China, still had at least one symptom 6 months after their discharge from the hospital.
This is consistent with a 2020 study from Italy that found that of COVID-19 patients reported experiencing at least one symptom 2 months after their discharge from the hospital.
A 2020 Swiss study also notes that as many as 1 in 3 people with milder cases COVID-19 were still experiencing symptoms after 6 weeks.
This means that across the world, there may be more than 5 million cases of long COVID.
The official medical term for “Long Covid” is Post-Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection, or PASC.
Health Workers Report ‘Long COVID’ After Just Mild Illness
The University of Minnesota research center reports Health Workers Report ‘Long COVID’ After Just Mild Illness
Fifteen percent of healthcare workers at a Swedish hospital who recovered from mild COVID-19 at least 8 months before report at least one moderate to severe symptom disrupting their work, home, or social life, according to a research letter published yesterday in JAMA.
Of the 323 participants who were seropositive, or had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2, indicating previous infection, 26% reported at least one moderate to severe symptom persisting for at least 2 months, compared with 9% of 1,072 seronegative participants (risk ratio [RR], 2.9). Similarly, 15% of seropositive and 3% of seronegative participants said they had a lingering symptom for 8 months or more (RR, 4.4).
Likewise, 15% of seropositive participants said their persistent symptoms disrupted their social life to a moderate to marked degree, compared with 6% of the seronegative group (RR, 2.5). And 12% of the seropositive group reported disruptions to their home life, versus 5% of the seronegative group (RR, 2.3).
In addition to reporting at least one symptom lasting 8 months or longer, 11% of seropositive participants indicated a moderate to marked disruption in any category of the Sheehan Disability Scale, compared with 2% of the seronegative group (RR, 4.5).
The most common symptoms lasting for at least 2 months in the seropositive group included fatigue, loss of smell or taste, and shortness of breath.
How Do You Prove You Are Sick?
For many sufferers of long Covid, proving they are sick is a big part of the battle.
Lyth Hishmeh kept feeling ill months after contracting coronavirus a year ago in March. He had chest pain and couldn’t concentrate. At 26 years old, the former regular runner was fatigued and breathless, struggling to function properly. Yet medical professionals kept telling him he simply could not still be ill.
“They were telling me it’s all in my head,” he said. For Hishmeh who lives in London and many sufferers of long Covid, proving they are sick has become a big part of trying to get better.
Another Londoner, Monique Jackson, has lost count of the number of times her pain was described as ‘just anxiety.’
In the UK alone, almost 700,000 people reported having symptoms for at least three months after getting infected with Covid-19, according to a survey done by the UK Office for National Statistics in March. A majority of the 700,000 said their illness was limiting their day-to-day activities and for almost 70,000, the symptoms have lasted for more than a year.
“The scale is enormous,” said Dr. Clare Rayner, a retired occupational health physician and herself a long Covid patient.
“We have an enormous amount of people who have been off sick for a year, they are young people, mainly they are of working age, most seem to have been completely healthy before and suddenly they cannot work,” she said.
Not Just Like the Flu
Covid is not just like the flu. Nor is it no worse than the flu.
As of today, there are over 575,000 US deaths. That total does not include excess deaths.
Estimates are millions of people globally have some symptoms of Long Covid.
And about 10% of the Long Covid sufferers are not able to function enough to work.
Mish
I know someone who had COVID last summer, and still can’t taste or smell normally, and in fact many normal things (like food) seem to taste weird and disgusting. Not a life-threatening symptom, but it affects quality of life.
I think many people will try to claim disability from COVID. Some of it will be legitimate, but I expect massive numbers of fake claims will make it hard for the people who need and deserve help to get it. Medical disability is already very hard to get, for that reason.
It will certainly lead to a boom for lawyers. I expect to hear radio commercials “Have you had Covid, and experienced long lasting conditions that make work difficult? You may be eligible for permanent disability. Our expert team is experienced in handling cases just like yours. Call 1-800-999-9999 for a free consultation.”
My bretheren in the disability bar are indeed preparing to market to long-term Covid sufferers. There will indeed be some who seek to “get over” on the system, though there will be genuine claims as well.
I’m certainly not implying that there is anything wrong with this. There are people out there will real disabilities caused by Covid, and they need representation. I do agree that there will be some trying to “get over”, on the system, but there is also a real need. I think this will be a very active area for the next couple years, and there could be as many as a million disability claims filed due to Covid in the next two years, some of which will be approved, and others of which will be denied..
No getting vaccinated does not make one MORE likely to contract COVID or one of the variants
A real-world data study in Israel found that Pfizer (PFE.F) and BioNTech’s (22UA.F) COVID-19 vaccine appeared to be less effective against the South African variant of the virus, Reuters reported Monday.
Only about 1% of the COVID-19 cases in the trial, conducted by the Tel Aviv University and Israeli healthcare provider Clalit, involved the South African variant, or B.1.351. The study compared about 400 people who had tested positive for COVID-19, 14 days or more after they received either one or two doses of the vaccine, against the same number of unvaccinated patients with the disease.
The study showed the variant’s prevalence rate was 8x higher among patients who had received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine compared with those who were unvaccinated. The researchers said this suggests the jab is less effective against the variant compared with the original coronavirus and the variant first identified in the UK.
AND THIS IS KEY
The researchers, however, said the study was not intended to deduce the overall effectiveness of the vaccine against any variant since it focused on people who already tested positive for COVID-19 and not at overall infection rates.
Covid really messes with the lungs. There is probably long term damage even by those that don’t report symptoms. Just one more reason to get vaccinated.
It is worth noting that the study referenced in the University of Minnesota story did not find increased prevalence of some symptoms associated with long-haulers–
“”We investigated the presence of long-term symptoms after mild COVID-19 in a relatively young and healthy group of working individuals, and we found that the predominant long-term symptoms are loss of smell and taste. Fatigue and respiratory problems are also more common among participants who have had COVID-19 but do not occur to the same extent,” says Charlotte Thålin, specialist physician, Ph.D. and lead researcher for the COMMUNITY study at Danderyd Hospital and Karolinska Institutet. “However, we do not see an increased prevalence of cognitive symptoms such as brain fatigue, memory and concentration problems or physical disorders such as muscle and joint pain, heart palpitations or long-term fever.””
NJ man in hospital with COVID-19 after being fully vaccinated
April 11, 2021 | 11:15pm | Updated
Brooklyn woman gets COVID 3 weeks after Johnson & Johnson vaccine
April 10, 2021 | 12:46pm | Updated
Why in the world would you find it useful to post a story that a person got COVID after receiving J&J vac? It’s 66% efficacy means people can still get it, just less likely. Same for the 95% efficacy of other vacs. Everybody knows this. Those are bait click stories. Go spam another board with propaganda.
Everybody DOESN’T know this, both here and elsewhere. The vast majority of people believe that a vaccine grants them immunity. The MSM rarely mentions that the “jab” is not absolute protection because that would provide for reason for people to get the so-called vaccine hesitancy. I have had posts expressing this same knowledge removed as “mis-information”.
Now go back to being a lurker.
The FDA ignored probable Covid cases in both Pfizer and Moderna trials that were not confirmed either way by PCR Tests. Both the vaccine group and placebo group
had significant probable Covid cases,but because they were not PCR confirmed,the fake ratio 95% effectiveness was published and not the more likely effectiveness of under 50%…..kind of like the FLU vaccine. Real world data will eventually show effectiveness below 50%. We are only 6 months into this ,so give it a year or two.
Mish, take a look at the Gulf War Syndrome symptoms… a 90% match.
Part of the medical profession and others said soldiers were making it up. But several allied countries have the exact same syndrome. Syndrome being a collection of symptoms and illnesses that do not fit in any medical diagnosis. And most doctors do not want to have anything to do with these kind of patients who they can not prescribe a meds to.
It is not the same cause, but humans can only express so many symptoms and something that has messed with the nervous system or the body in another systematic way will exhibit many of the same symptoms.
My guess is that the insurer’s, counting the beans, will start drawing lines around those who have had it and those who haven’t.
Doesn’t matter. Since Obamacare was passed in 2010 health insurers cannot refuse coverage for pre-existing conditions, nor can they charge extra. The only exemption is for a policy that was in effect prior to passage of the ACA.
Disability and life insurance are not affected by the ACA and they can deny or charge extra for coverage.
I would have thought it was pretty clear by now that some viral infections do damage to the nervous system along with the more obvious damage. Not just COVID.
So those countries that are heavily infected will wear a long term productivity and social cost.
The longer it goes, the more variants there will be.
Since it is clear from many of the comments that you can’t cure stupid, it will be here for a long time.
My educated guess is that the more times you fall ill with it, the more damage to your health.
Nature weeds out the stupid.
And the genetically weak. I guess you could call those who have gotten Covid from the [un]lucky sperm club. Such is life.
Have Long Haul Covid. Mostly ongoing SOB, fatigue, and exercise intolerance. I thought I would recover 100% eventually, after a year I am second guessing that. If I didn’t have work from home I would be screwed. I don’t think I could do more than 2 days a week in office. I keep telling friends this is legit and is going to a huge societal burden (i.e. health care costs, lost productivity, income loss, etc.). The naysayers will come around when the variants get to them or their friends/family eventually. We need a Manhatten Project for LC treatment.
Why do you people always hope to draw more people into YOUR personal fear and misery?
Statements like “The naysayers will come around when the variants get to them or their friends/family eventually.” are really juvenile.
I could retort by saying that I hope you continue to suffer but instead I will suggest that you get the vaccine shots if you haven’t yet done so because there is some reporting that long haulers ar ehelped after taking the vaccine. If you did get the shots and they didn’t help, then nothing else I can offer.
I’m sorry to hear about your long covid. I know others with it. The real tragedy for those with long covid is that, in addition to the symptoms themselves, they will be faced with those who don’t believe them, and think it is all in their head. I think that it is widespread enough that the condition will get serious medical attention n the years ahead, and treatments will improve. Good luck to you.
Have you tried ivermectin? See the post by “AussiePete” above.
Thanks to the 2 latter comments. I expect disappointing comments like the former. I am 2 weeks past 2nd vaccine with marginal improvement, but it may also be due to new breathing exercises and a new supplement. Belong to LC groups on FB and it appears vaccine related improvements are short-lived. There are other things I can try but am waiting to see how I do post-vaccine. I believe the far likelier scenarios is for the vast majority of us this will be a chronic problem that ebbs and flows but changes us for life. Hope I am wrong. 5+ years past the original SARS virus in the 2000s people still had long term residual issues. This is a more virulent bug so how do we think it’s really gonna go? I know this is borderline CT, but it may not be in the not too distant future…I believe it totally plausible this is a bio-engineered strain. I’ve never felt anything like this with previous viruses. Occam’s Razor…it originated near the Wuhan Lab that studies and plays around with Corona viruses. I’m not arguing it was intentional, could easily have been accidental. But I think the odds are better on this vs. natural. 5 years from now the long term story will be survivors with long term disabilities. But we mostly just spend our time today arguing from political perspectives something that was never political to begin with, until we made it so for distraction and divide and conquer purposes. But hey, greatest nation on Earth right?
Peter Thiel said many years ago: “we will have a bull market in politics”. Everything is politicized, which leaves little room for constructive deliberations.
I also think that COVID came from the lab. I don’t know if that’s why it’s so bad, but it’s definitely alarming, a la Frankenstein.
Hope you feel better. Keep trying new things. Consider ivermectin, though I have no idea if that will help. Follow “Christ Martenson” at the website “Peak Prosperity”. He also has a Rumble account. He was banned from YouTube for telling the truth.
Jerome Powell talking his book. There’s a bit of self promotion here. Still an informative interview
Wait to long COVID vaccine develops.
we have only just begun with covid Evidence for increased breakthrough rates of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern in BNT162b2 mRNA vaccinated individuals | medRxiv link to medrxiv.org
The cure for”LONG COVID” and everything else considered to be COVID related can
be cured by following the science…..MASKS are the biggest single cause of health issues now and going forward. Follow the science ….STOP MASKING !!!!!
Another covidiot chimes in. The cited article clearly states that they are proposing a HYPOTHESIS. In reading through the article I noted some truly absurd observations. They cited a study where surgeons wearing masks for long procedures had a 1% drop in oxygen levels. How do we know it’s the mask and not standing there working away for 4 hours without a break? Furthermore its not clear what “1%” means. If they mean oxygen saturation dropped 1% who cares? A drop from 97% to 96% has ZERO clinical significance. The whole article is a jumble of semi-relevent articles cobbled together to give the appearance of a well thought out explanation. Note that this was published in a journal named “MEDICAL HYPOTHESES”.
News flash: medical personnel have been wearing masks varying in form and composition for decades without side effects. I spent 42 years of my life working in the OR and nothing like this has happened to me or anyone else I know.
I spent over a year practicing medicine during the pandemic wearing a mask all day long. Neither I nor my staff experienced any symptoms of covid or respiratory distress.
I believe that thanks to our precautions regarding social distancing, wearing masks, hand washing, and cleaning of surfaces after each encounter prevented all of us from experiencing symptoms of infection. Could they have been asymptomatic? Possibly. There’s no way to know.
I do know that a nearby clinic that had very lax processes in place were decimated by employee absences due to covid. At one point over half their staff was out sick.
We did see patients who we knew were covid positive but we took no other precautions than our standard procedures.
Blaming masks is a sign of brain damage. According to Dr. Fauci the treatment for that is to add a second layer of foil to your hat.
I know one doctor who appeared to have respiratory problems with masks, resolved by wearing cotton masks. However that was in the 1980s.
Masks will not hurt you. At worst they might not be effective, but despite a year of explaining to the public that masks don’t protect YOU, they protect OTHER PEOPLE from carriers of the virus I continue to hear stories from covidiots that they wore a mask and still got infected.
I assume when you use the pejorative term Covidiot that you are looking in the mirror?
Because if you had read further than the title, as far down as the 2nd sentence in the Abstract, you would have read:
“Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ efficacy is lacking, adverse physiological, psychological and health effects are established.”
Then you could have read the evidence laid out below, instead of wasting your time penning a long BS reply based on one word. Oh and you do understand that hypothesis is the beginning of the scientific process?
Sheese. You really are stupid.
Like I said, covidiots. You don’t understand the scientific process and you definitely don’t know how to read a scientific paper.
Just because they SAY the harm of masks is well established doesn’t make it true. You have to consider the proof backing the arguments.
And Texas isn’t really the example you want to use. Even though Abbott ended mask mandates the vast majority of businesses still adhere to the policy – banks, supermarkets, restaurants, hardware stores, etc.
In addition, covid in Texas had already fallen precipitously before Abbott abandoned the mask mandate.
COVIDIOTS!
Those who must resort to name calling lack the ability discuss rationally and do so only for in defense, afraid of being proven wrong. Look up the studies that showed
no difference in OR infection rates in Masked workers Vs Non-Masked workers. NO Studies support masking anywhere for infection prevention.
Thanks for this. Did you read my post up above about masks shedding fibers and contaminants into your lungs?
Yes, I did !! The list of “Long Covid” symptoms could easily be “mask” induced health issues. Texas and other states lifting Mask Mandates are doing much better,
and are Healthier!!
In their study, the prevalence of the South African strain among vaccinated individuals who were infected despite their inoculation was eight times higher than its prevalence in the unvaccinated infected population. Though the number of such infections among the vaccinated was relatively small, the findings indicated that this variant was far more successful in getting through vaccinated individuals’ defenses than other strains.link to timesofisrael.com
Getting by the vaccine isn’t enough. The only question is can it put you in the hospital or worse yet ICU. Just like the flu vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting the flu virus, any covid vaccine can’t fully guarantee you from getting any variant of the covid virus. The whole idea is reduce illness and related effects so that you don’t have to go to the hospital.
Perhaps you missed this part: “…, the prevalence of the South African strain among vaccinated individuals who were infected despite their inoculation was eight times higher than its prevalence in the unvaccinated infected population”.
It’s an early study but it suggest that vaccinated people may be more susceptible to new strains than unvaccinated, but eight times is a hell of a lot, too much to ignore.
No
It means they didn’t get the other strains. If they get infected it’s the south African version
The other strains are on their way out, next up is the South African strain where, according to this limited number study, you are 8 times more likely to get if you are vaccinated.
did you even read the article?
It is possible that the extensive spread of the British variant is blocking the spread of the South African variant,” she said. “Because it spread so effectively, it basically didn’t allow the South African variant to spread — it won the competition.”
the vaccine isn’t making the people more susceptible… it just happens that the british version won the race in the unvaccinated population.. the only people left to contract the south african version, are those who have been vaccinated… the only thing this study concludes is that the vaccine is less effective against the south african variant , which has been known for a while now.
Looks like you committed mask wearers now have another big problem to worry about. Y’all know of course that anyone can make masks and they aren’t reviewed by anybody for meeting any kind of standards, yes?
Well, it seems that people wearing masks are potentially inhaling a variety of particles that the masks are made of and/or contaminated with, from plastic to fiberglass to graphene. Cotton masks are not a solution as cotton fibers inhaled can also be problematic.
This may be of particular interest to those who have children.
I’m sure everyone has heard of mesothelioma by now. Will we be seeing the same TV ads years from now for those who were forced to wear masks for over a year? “Were you forced to wear a mask during the Covid scare and wound up with reduced lung capacity? CALL US! We’ll get you millions of $$$!”.
Perhaps some of you may recall all the upset people here in CA last year after hearing the MSM reports from DOCTORS of potential lung damage from inhaling fire smoke from JUST ONE FIRE (and we had many more than one). Quite the brouhaha! How will people react when they learn they may have been inhaling plastic waste fibers and other contaminants from facemasks?
Calling Dr. Fauci, we need a “do not worry” pronunciation. Stat!
Masks, false safety and real dangers, Part 1:
Friable mask particulate and lung vulnerability
Boris Borovoy, Colleen Huber, Q Makeeta
Abstract
There is no biological history of mass masking until the current era. It is important to consider possible outcomes of this society-wide experiment. The consequences to the health of individuals is as yet unknown.
Masked individuals have measurably higher inspiratory flow than non-masked individuals. This study is of new masks removed from manufacturer packaging
, as well as a laundered cloth mask, examined microscopically. Loose particulate was seen on each type of mask. Also, tight and loose fibers were
seen on each type of mask. If every foreign particle and every fiber in every facemask is always secure and not detachable by airflow, then there should be no risk of inhalation of such particles and fibers. However, if even a small portion of mask fibers is detachable by inspiratory airflow, or if there is debris
in mask manufacture or packaging or handling, then there is the possibility of not only entry of foreign material to the airways, but also entry to deep lung tissue, and potential pathological consequences of foreign bodies in the lungs.
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Covid is more like Guillain-Barre for the masses. Some will recover fully. Others will never be the same. The longer term effects of Covid seem to be due to the fact that a storm occurs on the body doing permanent damage to some systems and parts.
It seems that for a lot of these people, getting the vaccine shot miraculously clears up their problems almost immediately. Can everyone spell ‘psychosomatic’?
‘slightly longer’ is not ‘Forever’. and many of those symptoms listed are also listed as side effects of many medications.
By the way, on 60 minutes the fed chairman is expecting a boom in the economy in the second half (not a strong recovery but an outright boom)… It would be a shame if people who are ‘experiencing these symptoms’ (which also can diagnosed as Fibromyaglia or chronic fatigue syndrome don’t participate in this booming economy — by this I mean not work and suck on the govt’s teat by ‘collecting benefits’…..
Being ‘out of the labor force’ is probably worse for ones career and earnings prospects than being ‘unemployed and looking for work’
According to Dr Pierre Kory, ivermectin is showing promise in relieving “long haul covid” symptoms in as little as 3 days. See interview with Dr Mobeen Syed.
I know a doctor who had a bad case of sar cov2 and he swears by a monoclonal antibody called “Bamlanivimab”. It’ administered at your home by IV and takes about a 1/2 hour. You can feel yourself getting better shortly after it starts flowing. I know it sounds funny but there is a method for classifying this new series treatments by what ingredients and animals they used in production and you can always tell any monoclonal concoction by the last 3 letters in the name… they all end in mab. Most doctor don’t know it’s available.
What do we do? More studies like the Healthcare worker study you cited, to establish prevalence of the, further refine the definition of it, and attempt to develop treatment for it. Sadly these are not just lockdown symptoms and likely are due to inflammation, possible autoimmune reactions, end organ damage, and a very dysregulated immune system.
A number of those sound like Covid lockdown symptoms.
How long were you locked up for?
So much we still don’t know about covid19. One of our building workers us still dealing with the aftermath months later. Best solution is not to contract it. Seems like a salient point except politicians fight against passports or mandatory vaccination and too many in our society are afraid of vaccination and won’t wear a mask. In Florida business is dumbfounded over DeSantis’ position.
What to do about those who can’t work? Fund research and allow disability if appropriate I guess.
The real solution is to prevent contraction. We need to get vaccinated. And masks and social distancing need to be tolerated a bit longer
Within a month there will be no reason for vaccinated people to continue to wear masks. Once everyone has had a chance to get the vaccine, why should vaccinated people continue to wear masks to protect those that declined the vaccine?
Variants, spreading to people not yet vaccinated. My dentist tells me he doubts the office will ever go back to pre-covid rules
I do expect things, such as improvements in air handling, and procedures, to continue. Over the years many things have changed for better as a result of plagues, etc. For example, we now have mandatory garbage handling, and we have lots of rules regarding proper food preparation.
Evidence for increased breakthrough rates of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern in BNT162b2 mRNA vaccinated individuals | medRxiv link to medrxiv.org
I would hope we do not allow people to collect disability for Covid. If we do, the scammers will be out in full force just like they were after the financial crisis and millions went on long term disability because they could not find a job.
Covid will be around forever just like the regular flu is. The question is how often people will need booster shots for all the variants.
So to he’ll with them
Without a doubt many, many people will be accepted to disability for Covid. Some people are clearly disabled as a result, and it appears likely to be permanent.
Vaccination is NOT an immunity shot. Doh! I don’t know how many times I have to repeat this. Some people are thick as a brick.
No, but it cuts the risk of getting Covid drastically. It should be a personal decision whether anyone wants to interact with others now. You risk getting into an accident anytime you enter a vehicle. This isn’t that much different at this point.
Anybody can get the vaccine now, so there is no need for masks or internal “passports”. I do agree that anyone coming into the country (including US citizens that have left) need to have proof that they have been vaccinated at least two weeks prior and have ben tested negative in the prior week before being allowed entry.
Well if everyone got the vaccine I’d agree but we got a lot of idiots who won’t and most have no legitimate excuse except freedom to contract and pass on the virus
“What Do We Do About Millions of “Long Covid” Sufferers?”
How about setup internment camps where they can all live together, complaining to each other? And they can be studied all in one place. Or maybe we should give them say, $1 million apiece for being genetically unlucky? Since we are throwing money at everybody and everything even peripherally related to Covid these days.
They can stay with those afflicted by wifi!
I kid. I have no idea whether either of those is a real thing. Brain clots ain’t good though, and I think that’s established.
nasty. be a shame if youse caught a disabling disease
It would be. But I’m not worried. I refuse to subscribe to YOUR fear.
Putz! My wife has had it for 6 months now and it doesn’t slow her down much, but she isn’t as happy as usual. It is a real thing that the doctors need to figure out how to treat. At this point, we don’t need to throw government money at it but just do it like almost all of science… trial and error.
“As of today, there are over 575,000 US deaths”
Which is less than .20% of the total population. A mere blip of little concern, especially given that the vast majority were very old people with multiple comorbidities already on their last legs and/or overweight (their problem, not societies). And the likelihood is that the death total will reduce to near zero by next year.
Why didn’t anyone get similarly excited about heart attack victims in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, etc.? After all, 600k people die of heart attacks EACH AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR in the USA. And then there are the various cancers that kill another 600k, again EACH AND EVERY YEAR.
Unless you or someone you love is part of the “blip”. Or unless you or someone you love has “long Covid.”
Actually, the people that I’ve run into that have backed shutdowns & school closings most vociferously all share some interesting similarities: they have well-paid jobs that they can do from home; they have the technological know-how to assist with e-learning; they have great faith in “science” yet seem to ignore the fact that government-paid scientists shift their stances on things such as masks or public gatherings; they reject the views of scientists who posit something contrary to what “their” scientists believe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My heart bleeds for them as I stroll around w/o a mask on and unvaccinated. Sometimes you’re the mosquito and sometimes you’re the windshield.
A blip? Add up world War 1 and 2 and Vietnam and Korean War deaths
A blip? Add up world War 1 and 2 and Vietnam and Korean War deaths
HCQ and Ivermectin would have cut that dramatically. Yet the NIH suppressed both of those life saving therapies.
Fauci: “I take 8,000-9,000 iu per day in the winter” – interview, November 2020
He wasn’t telling the American people to do that.
HCQ? We’re done with stupid. It didn’t work. Stop hanging on to nonsense
Take a look at fluvoxamine.
Two can play that silly game.
“More Americans have died from guns just since 1975, including suicides, murders and accidents (more than 1.5 million), than in all the wars in United States history, dating back to the Revolutionary War (about 1.4 million).”
So why hasn’t the country been locked down until this gun virus passes or we find a way to get vaccinated against it?
Guns also do not infect other people via aerosols.
I believe you think your reply makes some kind of sense. Which is sad.
The “blip” you argue is actually smaller than reported since it includes co-morbidity of COVID, not death directly due to COVID.
Lets put that .20 into perspective. .20 with lock downs closed business mask and 6 ft. And still only 30 percent of population have contracted it.
Last time i checked fat and old people were citizens of this country.
How much money is spent each year educating people to exercise eat right to avoid heart problems.
Obviously not enough. I suggest that all people who cannot prove that they have strong hearts be quarantined in their homes and forced to follow a government diet (food provided and delivered by government workers) to get/keep them healthy.
If covid was not reported in the news, you would never know there was a “pandemic”.