CNN vs Trump: Point, Counterpoint

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Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Hooligan
Hooligan
6 years ago

there are more ads advertizing CNN on CNN than their are ads avertizing products and services. thi sis symptomatic of the ethos lying (sic) behind CNN reporting internationally. the brand has lost all the prestige gained from its 1991 coverage of the middle east – even that reporting is now seen as glorifying a lie that caused the death of millions using trillions of tax payer dollars over the last 25 years.

Carl_R
Carl_R
6 years ago

Myself, I believe that, because of all the alternative ways for information to spread, reporters now feel less need to be objective, so they freely hand pick what facts they present to slant their stories. That has has long existed (see, e.g. “60 Minutes”, which was doing that long ago), but it seems more prevalent today, especially when applied to main stream news.

Carl_R
Carl_R
6 years ago

If only 95% of what a news service reports is true, that’s a tragically low percentage. The goal should be more like 99.99% accuracy. I find myself wondering, though, is there more “fake news” reported these days than 50 years ago, or is it just that, because of alternative ways for information to flow, we are more aware of it? Or, is it that, with all the alternative sources of information, false propaganda spreads more readily, and we are more confused?

DBG8489
DBG8489
6 years ago

@JonSellers

Exactly!

DBG8489
DBG8489
6 years ago

@Sechel

First of all – it doesn’t matter *what* you call him – the president is still just a person. And as a person he has the right to complain on social media…just like everyone else.

Secondly:

You can’t believe *any* news outlet on *any* story that hasn’t been thoroughly “vetted” by publication and “verification” by many outlets – and even then there is a chance it’s *still* not true.

Every single one of them has been caught lying about sources, lying about stories, not reporting the whole story…etc. The examples are legion.

And this is nothing new. It happened even in colonial times. Papers of the day slanted their stories and editorial content to beliefs they wanted to push – even if that meant stretching the truth at times.

Newspapers, TV news, 24/7 “news” stations – all media outlets – exist for one thing: Make money for their advertisers – which makes the advertisers continue to buy ads – which makes money for the media conglomerate that *owns* the media outlet.

To believe anything else is to believe in something that has *never* existed.

RonJ
RonJ
6 years ago

“Earth is round, earth is flat, all depends on the beholder.” No. 1+1 always =2. CNN is a propaganda operation. They tell the viewer what they want the viewer to see and hear. Fortunately, we do have the internet and can seek out what is being hidden or falsified.

JonSellers
JonSellers
6 years ago

CNN, Fox, et. al. are not “news” organizations. They are private broadcasting organizations that use a news format to maximize sales of advertisements. Their objective is to maximize the number of viewers to create the highest price potential for advertising sales. Their purpose is to maximize shareholder value by minimizing costs and maximizing revenues. To achieve these ends, they seek attractive but not necessarily competent reporters, they focus on easy to find stories, and they maximize the entertainment value of those stories by providing the most outlandish spin possible. None of it is really news. All of it is fake. Arguing about it ridiculous.

RonJ
RonJ
6 years ago

I don’t think Don Lemon does stories on volcanoes in Bali.

RonJ
RonJ
6 years ago

“95%+ on CNN are simple news stories like “Volcano erupts on Bali” Are all those stories fake?”

MIFE
MIFE
6 years ago

Sechel: Commander in Chief is ONLY the role when in WAR, which can only be declared by congress to my understanding….

KidHorn
KidHorn
6 years ago

A lot of what CNN presents is the truth, but only because presenting the truth doesn’t adversely affect their narrative(s). If everything CNN covered were Trump related, the truth figure would be well below 50%.

DBG8489
DBG8489
6 years ago

@Sechel

Bullshit. He’s the CEO of the US, but he is also a citizen. He has every right to complain about the same things anyone else does. Bitching on Twitter isn’t an abuse of power.

If he were to – for instance – use the IRS to go after organizations that opposed him…that might be an abuse of power.

If he were to use the BLM to go after ranchers on land the US government doesn’t own simply because he doesn’t like their way of life…that might be an abuse of power.

If he were to use executive orders and memorandum to push an agenda equivalent to laws through regulatory agencies without the approval of Congress…that might be an abuse of power.

If he were to allow his cabinet-level executives to lie to Congress repeatedly – about many things – without consequence…that might be an abuse of power.

If he were to use the intelligence agencies to conduct surveillance on his political opponents based on information he knew to be fabricated – that might be an abuse of power.

These are just a few examples. They are considered abuses because not everyone else has the ability to do them – only those with the “power” can.

Bitching on social media is the same thing everyone else does.

effendi
effendi
6 years ago

Shamrock: Even if 95% of news stories CNN shows are true it doesn’t mean the truth is being shown. Sounds like a contradiction but it isn’t if you realise that many newsworthy stories are never shown as they don’t fit the narrative that the libtards want to push. When was the last time CNN gave prominence to such newsworthy events like a gun owner stopping a criminal or a Confederate flag flying redneck protecting a black kid from gangbangers?

shamrock
shamrock
6 years ago

Earth is round, earth is flat, all depends on the beholder.

shamrock
shamrock
6 years ago

95%+ on CNN are simple news stories like “Volcano erupts on Bali” link to cnn.com . Are all those stories fake?

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

Where do you get your “truth” Mish?

Truth is in the eyes of the beholder
But it is neither CNN nor Trump

The pot is calling the kettle black

shamrock
shamrock
6 years ago

Where do you get your “truth” Mish?

shamrock
shamrock
6 years ago

Trumps incessant tweeting about CNN calls into question the objectivity of the Justice Department in the lawsuit against the ATT merger. Why can’t that moron STFU?

Hooligan
Hooligan
6 years ago

you can’t ask deluded, egotistical, racist, libtard socialist reporters for facts that conflict with their rabid, moronic and mentally retarded dogmas – they would not be able to square the facts with their agendas to continue milking million dollar salaries from morally bankrupt advertizers.

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