Youngkin needs the white supremacist vote to come out to win. There is a tele-rally by Trump today that should help. Youngkin is hedging by not mentioning Trump’s name or being involved in the tele-rally but independents will be turned off by Trump’s rally today.
dmartin
2 years ago
Jussie Smollett anyone?
wxman40
2 years ago
Someone tell the Lincoln project folks that Clayton Bigsby was actually satire and not a real person.
RonJ
2 years ago
“The people who most vocally claim to be worried about disinformation
and Fake News — to the point that they want to censor the internet in
its name — are, by far, the most aggressive and prolific disseminators
of disinformation and Fake News.”
Google/Facebook/Twitter
Steve Kirsch had to move to alternative media, as they were censoring his evidence based analysis of the Covid-19 injections.
The recent Facebook whistleblower turned out to be a political operative.
anoop
2 years ago
becoming increasing hard to tell what is real and what is fake.
….and what about suspect nr 16, Ray Epps, on the FBI most wanted list related to the storming of the Corrupt Headquarters, jan 6th… he magically disappeared from the list …according to some sources he was a FBI provocateur….
Doug78
2 years ago
The playbook has been to carefully craft every element to support your
side so it appears as a slick PowerPoint presentation with each part supporting the another in order to convince the client aka voter to accept the total
packaged presentation as truth. It worked in the past because the information gatekeepers
had a quasi-monopoly on information diffusion. That is no longer the case. The
internet has made it much easier to check and diffuse facts so the amateurish
attempt by the Lincoln project people fell apart right away because the
participants were recognized by their photos and as being Democrat operatives.
That real tragedy here is that they blindly followed the playbook and
did not recognize that the situation has radically changed when it comes to
information diffusion. They are not dumb, they went to good schools, but they
lack imagination and expected that what worked before would always work. I am afraid that that lack of imagination is widespread throughout the Democrat Party leadership. I wonder if the rank-and-file are also lacking seeing the type of people populating the schoolboards.
It used to be that you could take the same bit of information and feed
to diverse media outlets and have it come out as verified fact. Can’t do that
anymore because there are too many ways to verify and diffuse outside of the
mainstream media which by the way is no longer mainstream and now have ridiculously
low viewership.
“The
internet has made it much easier to check and diffuse facts so the amateurish
attempt by the Lincoln project people fell apart right away because the
participants were recognized by their photos and as being Democrat operatives.”
This specific instance aside, or that it involves politics, control is the real reason the powers that be, want to suppress alternative media. It is not that they are trying to fight disinformation, they are trying to control the narrative, even when their narrative is false. At that point, they are trying to suppress the truth. NewsGuard, which General Hayden was involved with, wasn’t created to protect the truth, it was created to protect the official narrative.
I am not familiar with NewsGuard so I can’t say much about it. A lot of companies have popped up claiming to rate the veracity of this or that news site recently. I wonder however how do they make their money. If it is from foundations then I find it suspect because there are strings attached. If they have a business model where people would actually pay something for their services then it might be worthwhile. I don’t know.
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Of course, these same people could NEVER interfere in an election.
caradoc-again
2 years ago
The big question is what happens if Biden collapses as Harris doesn’t appear fit for purpose.
For whatever reason both Clinton and Obama have recently been on light entertainment BBC programs individually. BBC is not straight down the middle and have to wonder what the game is. Two has beens suddenly getting air time as if they still have any relevance,
If it’s any consolation, the BBC isn’t the only government funded MSM outlet that is peddling views that are left-of-centre from the general population, and sometimes pure propaganda. I already mentioned how all of them shut down their comment section for a good reason.
They can weekend at Bernie’s him till the end of his term. He already doesn’t show much brain activity.
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
McAuliffe is a Hillary Clinton (not Bill Clinton) disciple and thus is an expert on how to lose elections that he once led. Doesn’t anyone remember Hilary lost twice after having commanding leads in the polls in 2008 primary against Barack Obama and 2016 against Trump. Mcauliffe deserves to lose. If he doesn’t it will only go to show how far the Republican party has fallen.
ajc1970
2 years ago
The major networks will be all over this — starting around Tuesday night.
Until Tuesday night, we’ll hear lots of mentions of “that Republican anti-Trump group, the Lincoln Group” being behind some vague stunt.
That group of people that since 2016 has spent every minute, dollar and bit of energy they’ve had helping to elect Democrats.
Yeah, “Republicans.”
Think I’ve already seen a headline talking about a Republican group being behind some operation hurt Youngkin.
I believe the chunkier guy on the left has been tied to McAuliffe himself.
The Lincoln Project is sticking to its guns. They say as long as Youngkin isn’t denouncing Charlottesville then he is a racist. I would have to agree. There is no doubt he wants the Trump vote. If independents switch to the 3rd party candidate then the move by the Lincoln Project will backfire.
It looks like Youngkin wants to have his cake and eat it too. Therefore he says nothing about Trump in public, but in private he stays in touch with the coup-fomenting “Trump Campaign”. Talk about a euphemism.
Given how incompetent McAuliffe has been this election cycle, Youngkin has the momentum going into election day. It is too bad neither party can divest itself of Trump or Clinton. While we complain of the leaders in the younger generation, it is no wonder they are left to wonder if this is the best we can do.
If they don’t do something, trump will completely destroy the party. A bunch of obese, bearded cultists is all they will have left.
Felix_Mish
2 years ago
Normally, when the cheerleaders or players on one side of the great American political game say that someone of some substance on the other side has said or done something unbelievably weird and despicable, the story is a deliberate lie.
The cheerleaders on both sides are expected to lie. It’s what they do. They must be entertaining. Occasionally, if their lies saturate their side’s thinking, even the players – the professional politicians – repeat the lies. Such politicians are speaking wholly to their own crowd. The other side’s crowd is aware of the lie, but the politician’s crowd is not.
Want an example: “fine people”. Easily verified to be a lie.
Now, right-wing cheerleaders have exploded with this Youngkin bus story. Is the story a lie? Was there any attempt by this Tiki Crew to pretend to be Youngkin supporters, for instance? I’d guess, “No”. And, I say, “No”, only because one side says the other did something, well, insane – something-that-smacks-of-double false-flag insane.
My theory’s problem: The Tiki Crew may not qualify as “someone of some substance”. Both sides’ cheerleaders have a deep well of nut-cases on both sides to trot out on a slow news day, after all.
With respect to this election: MSNBC fans aren’t going to switch their votes.
The whole thing is bizarre on its face, and the obfuscation by the involved makes one think of a soap opera. Were they pretending to be someone else? Were they just paid to stand silently for a photo op so others could manufacture the narrative? Was it an intentionally provocative, non-verbal commentary on events from Charlottesville several years ago?
Concur that in the end, most who look at this story will hold true to their prior convictions. As I wrote in another comment-
Left, right, fringe — window dressing. There is no real substance in politics, as a whole, and theatre like this is meant to activate emotions of the voters, which leads to people disengaging their brains.
shamrock
2 years ago
There’s been all kinds of these fake “support” ads this year in Virginia, from both sides. This might be the first fake support event though. But hey, it’s non-violent free speech. So wtf.
TheCaptain
2 years ago
When you take away what’s right, this is what is left. A bunch of scummy, lying, mentally defective, gender confused, cheaters. But nah, there was no election fraud.
That’s such a key point. When people start clutching their pearls about “how DARE we” suggest that ‘widespread’ cheating went on, I don’t understand the indignation.
Many of these people openly believed that Donald Trump would bring the end of Democracy.
Well, if you really believe that, you’re telling me that you wouldn’t fill in a couple ballots for some people who don’t participate? Many Democrats see politics as Everything That is Worth Fighting For, so why wouldn’t they see the Ends as absolutely worth the Means (of cheating)?
I don’t think the cheating occurred at the top. I think they turned away, while all of the crazy, screaming activists did what they thought they were supposed to, with a wink and nod. And I think there were a few groups of organized activists that focused on how to maximize ballots in their favor — some playing very close to the rules, others skirting them, and others just doing a blatant campaign of ballot counterfeiting.
And then, if the highest people within the government felt that this guy was indeed that dangerous to the republic, you don’t think that they would deploy the “black ops” of some agency to help tilt things the other way? Of course they would. They’ve done far worse in other countries. And if this is “good” for ours, then they wouldn’t hesitate.
When people feel that they are Righteous, there isn’t much you can tell them not to do. They will do it, because they have found “religion.”
And then the over the top responses to the possibility of election cheating betrays an insecurity about it that makes me even more suspicious.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
How can the Democrats be soooooo stooooopid? I mean, really! WTF did they think they were doing?
“Accusations of racism have been completely trivialized, degraded and converted into cynical weapons by white liberals, who really do believe that the hashtags they post and the slogans they chant have earned them the right to play with race for their most trivial, cynical ends.”
Glenn Greenwald has a sweet way with words. One of the best pure writers. His centrist take on the madness of our society is refreshing. The Left doesn’t know what to do with him, because he used to be one of them.
They are not the Left. Not since the days of LBJ. They are a right-wing party too, and the two right-wing parties clash with each other on the turf of social issues like race, gender, abortion etc.
I assume you mean that they are both “right” in that they are corporatists? It’s hard to argue with you there.
There was a day when they both wanted the small business support and vote. The money doesn’t come from there, so that is largely gone. Democrats used to stay away from big business and stick with labor and small business. I remember that even in the early 2000’s.
It is a shame that the system has been corrupted by dollars. I don’t have a solution for that, as I’m also a strong advocate for free speech and the right to lobby your government.
I can only hope that as media gets more diverse and more widespread (like the Mish Talk blog), traditional campaign expenditures will have less impact, thus making policy and action more important than slogans and TV ads.
We’ll see. Money has been upset in quite a few elections in the past decade, so it’s not impossible, if you are very good at connecting with people and demonstrating competency in the issues that people care about.
LBJ was a blowhard and a bully of a “politician” who is notorious for stealing an election.
Left, right, fringe — window dressing. There is no real substance in politics, as a whole, and theatre like this is meant to activate emotions of the voters, which leads to people disengaging their brains.
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and Fake News — to the point that they want to censor the internet in
its name — are, by far, the most aggressive and prolific disseminators
of disinformation and Fake News.”
The playbook has been to carefully craft every element to support your
side so it appears as a slick PowerPoint presentation with each part supporting the another in order to convince the client aka voter to accept the total
packaged presentation as truth. It worked in the past because the information gatekeepers
had a quasi-monopoly on information diffusion. That is no longer the case. The
internet has made it much easier to check and diffuse facts so the amateurish
attempt by the Lincoln project people fell apart right away because the
participants were recognized by their photos and as being Democrat operatives.
That real tragedy here is that they blindly followed the playbook and
did not recognize that the situation has radically changed when it comes to
information diffusion. They are not dumb, they went to good schools, but they
lack imagination and expected that what worked before would always work. I am afraid that that lack of imagination is widespread throughout the Democrat Party leadership. I wonder if the rank-and-file are also lacking seeing the type of people populating the schoolboards.
It used to be that you could take the same bit of information and feed
to diverse media outlets and have it come out as verified fact. Can’t do that
anymore because there are too many ways to verify and diffuse outside of the
mainstream media which by the way is no longer mainstream and now have ridiculously
low viewership.
internet has made it much easier to check and diffuse facts so the amateurish
attempt by the Lincoln project people fell apart right away because the
participants were recognized by their photos and as being Democrat operatives.”
If they don’t do something, trump will completely destroy the party. A bunch of obese, bearded cultists is all they will have left.