Jo Jorgensen for President
I get emails every day of two types.
- How can you be for Biden?
- How can you be for Trump?
I get more of the former than the latter but the frequency depends on whether I defend one or the other on anything.
I announced long ago that I would not vote for either of them and that I would vote Libertarian.
Today, I make an official endorsement.
Why?
Neutrality and Peace
Please look at Jo’s Platform on Neutrality and Peace.
“MY PLAN IS TO TURN AMERICA INTO ONE GIANT SWITZERLAND, ARMED AND NEUTRAL, WITH THE MILITARY FORCE TO DEFEND AMERICA’S SHORE AND SOIL AGAINST ANY FOREIGN ATTACKERS OR INVADERS, PROTECTED BY AN ARMED CITIZENRY, AND A MILITARY LASER-FOCUSED ON DEFENDING AMERICA.
NO US INVOLVEMENT IN FOREIGN WARS. BRING HOME OUR 200,000 PLUS AMERICAN MILITARY PERSONELL STATIONED IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES, AND NO US MILITARY AID TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. NO US BLOCKADES OR EMBARGOES OF NON-MILITARY TRADE.
PEACE, AT LAST.”
Trump’s Act of Wars
People tell me Trump has not started any wars. That’s a fallacy.
His embargoes on Iran and Venezuela are acts of war, far worse than any naval blockade.
Worse yet, Trump has forced the entire world to honor the embargoes, under threats of sanctions against them too.
Virtually none were necessary for America’s self-defense. Yet these needless wars caused the injuries or deaths of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers…and the waste of trillions of tax dollars — and the creation of trillions of dollars of federal government debt. U.S. government involvement in these wars caused the deaths and injuries of hundreds of thousands of people in foreign lands. And cost their citizens trillions of dollars in taxes and destruction. And needlessly created hundreds of thousands of enemies for us.
A vote for Trump is a vote for more of the same.
More tariffs, more weapons sales to Saudi Arabia, more meddling in the Mideast and he still has not brought the troops from Afghanistan, Iraq, or Syria.
Trump and Biden Budget Deficits
Trump promised to balance the budget. Did he?
Of course not, and neither will Biden.
The deficit under Trump soared out of control even before Covid hit, and much of it was due to absurd military spending.
Jo’s Platform on Government Spending
Please look at Jo’s Platform on Government Spending and Debt.
“AS PRESIDENT, I WILL USE MY CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO BLOCK ANY NEW BORROWING. I WILL VETO ANY SPENDING BILL THAT WOULD LEAD TO A DEFICIT, AND VETO ANY DEBT CEILING INCREASE. I WILL GIVE EVERY CABINET SECRETARY A SPECIFIC SPENDING REDUCTION TARGET TO MEET AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. THERE IS SIMPLY NO EXCUSE FOR STICKING OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WITH THE BILL FOR THESE BIPARTISAN BLOATED BUDGETS.”
Republicans promise that every year (in which Democrats are in power).
In years Republicans are in power (like now), they are strangely silent.
I have had enough. Haven’t you?
Trump on Tariffs
Trump has made a mess of trade. Our farmers are suffering and so are importers of goods.
Over 3,500 Corporations are So Fed Up With Trump’s Tariffs They Sue the US.
And Trump Threatens China With a “Big Price” for Covid
Economic illiterates, warmongers, and bullies support Trump’s actions.
Biden rates to be better but only because Trump is in a class by himself.
Jo’s Platform on Tariffs
Please look at Jo’s Platform on Tariffs.
THE FREEDOM TO TRADE AND TRAVEL IS FUNDAMENTAL TO HUMAN LIBERTY. AS AMERICAN CITIZENS, WE SHOULD BE FREE TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE WE CHOOSE, AND TO BUY AND SELL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. AS PRESIDENT, I WILL USE MY CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY TO ELIMINATE TRADE BARRIERS & TARIFFS, AND WORK TO REPEAL ARBITRARY QUOTAS ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN LEGALLY ENTER THE UNITED STATES TO WORK, VISIT, OR RESIDE.
It’s easy to find some faults in the above. Open borders and free benefits are not compatible. Then again, Jo is not in favor of Medicare for All and other types of free benefits.
Healthcare
Biden and the Democrats want something that will morph into Medicare for All. Lord only knows what Kamela Harris wants.
Trump wasted enormous amounts of energy trying to dismantle Obamacare with no real plan as to how to go about it.
Please look at Jo’s Platform on Healthcare.
“REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC POLICIES OVER THE PAST FIFTY YEARS ARE THE REASON HEALTH CARE HAS BECOME SO EXPENSIVE. THEIR LATEST PROPOSALS TO ‘FIX’ HEALTH CARE WILL FURTHER MICROMANAGE YOUR DOCTORS AND RESTRICT YOUR ACCESS TO CARE WHILE FAILING TO SOLVE THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM. THEY DIFFER ONLY ON WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE DONE BY PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES OR GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRATS. THIS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. WE CAN REDUCE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE 75% BY ALLOWING REAL PRICE COMPETITION, AND BY SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCING GOVERNMENT AND INSURANCE COMPANY PAPERWORK. THIS WILL MAKE HEALTH CARE AFFORDABLE FOR MOST AMERICANS, WHILE ALSO REDUCING THE COST OF LEGACY PROGRAMS LIKE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND THE VA.”
Here’s more ….
Probably the biggest problem with our health-care system is that our health insurance isn’t insurance at all! In any other industry, insurance covers only unexpected costs, and because of that, costs remain relatively low. Meanwhile, our broken health-care system has insurance pay for everything, and removes all accountability.
Just think how expensive your car insurance would be if it paid for gas, oil changes, or car washes.
You would have absolutely no reason to shop around for the best gasoline prices, because you’d simply take out your copay card at even the nicest gas stations. And the gas stations would have no reason to compete with each other on price. In fact, they could increase costs without you even knowing. They wouldn’t care because they’d get paid the big dollars anyway.
This is exactly what has happened in our health-care system: there is absolutely no reason for patients to shop for better prices, and as a result, health-care providers have no reason to compete. Insurance companies can charge higher prices without any accountability, and we’re the ones left footing the bill.
Unlike nearly every other procedure, the costs of Lasik and plastic surgery have gone down and their quality has improved, in large part because they are not covered by insurance.
Wasted Votes
People tell me a vote for Jo is a “wasted vote”.
By the same token any votes in California, Illinois, New York are wasted because we all know who will win.
Actually, voting for Trump or Biden is a wasted vote because both will continue inane warmongering, neither will strive to reduce the budget deficit, Trump will continue destroying US jobs with inane tariffs.
How is voting for either Trump or Biden not wasting your vote?
For these reasons, I Endorse Jo Jorgensen for President.
Mish
In my view there can be no discussion about policy direction in this country until Donald Trump is voted out of office. Under this theory a vote for anyone other than the most likely opponent is a protest vote and a wasted one at that.. Protest votes directed at third party candidates made the difference that put Donald Trump into office in 2016.
The choices in 2016 were AWFUL. I decided to vote for Trump and give him a shot. Sadly he disappointed me greatly. He is as awful as I feared he would be. Either Biden or Trump will be awful. I really don’t think it matters who wins. There is no actual choice. Voting 3rd party is exactly what serves my purpose. I vote for NEITHER major party.
imagine the Germans in the early 30’s who said yea i don’t much like both the communists and the Nazis. I don’t care who wins. One of them was clearly worse
The bottom line is this. A vote for Trump, or a vote for Biden, is a vote for more of the same horrible choices. The only way for other alternatives to be considered viable is for people to start voting for 3rd Party Candidates, which is exactly what the Demopublicans and Republicrats don’t want you to do.
No vote is wasted
Every vote is wasted.
We have an entrenched two party system, run by the elites, for the elites. No matter who you vote for, the elites win.
Trump’s big crime was that he wasn’t one of the career political insiders, when he ran for president. Bernie’s big crime was that he wasn’t a Democratic Party insider when he ran for president. The party worked to defeat him- twice. The last time Ron Paul ran for president, the party set the rules so that Paul had no chance.
Personally i find that odd, as i didn’t think Paul had a chance anyway. But i guess he made them nervous.
The Hawaiian senator who took down Kamalah Harris in the debates, was trashed by the media elites, as she for one, was anti war. The media are part of the elites.
If Jorgensen had any kind of a chance of being a contender, the media and major political parties would gang up on her.
Biden is ahead in BIG money contributions. Trump is ahead in small money contributions. The BIG money elitists don’t intend to lose.
No vote is wasted
Every vote is wasted
As proof of your argument, consider that Clark had good support (~5%) in polls, and a sizable war chest for ads in 1980, and was threatening to be invited to the debates. What happened? A liberal Republican, John Anderson, jumped into the election as a third party candidate. As a liberal Republican, he drew equally from Carter and Reagan, and had no impact on the election, nor any lasting purpose. He fulfilled his one key purpose, however. Clark was kept out of the debate, and held to barely over 1% of the vote, and the Libertarian Party was squashed, and didn’t even get over 0.5% again for 32 years.
Health care – complete change is needed. – I’m for “regional co-ops”, no profit on sick people. – Eliminate the “health insurance companies” and get over the idea of a government run/administered system. … The folks running the health insurance companies now – can run the co-op in their region & still make a decent weeks pay. – For those that truly need financial assistance – the government can “buy them a policy” in their region, but that’s it. – Companies or individuals must “buy a policy” in their region – nothing’s free. EVERYTHING goes “out for bid” and hospitals & pharmaceutical outfits can submit a bid to be involved. – Every citizen should have some form of a health safety net.
I would have voted for Bernie if running. Now, I’ll be voting for Jo Jorgensen.
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I support Dr Jorgensen as well as she most aligns with my thoughts and ideals for management of the country!
I am a former Trump voter voting for Jo Jorgensen.
One nit: embargos are not acts of war. Blockades are. Blockades are different and worse. Otherwise, yes, I like the lib party platform. And I will likely help to get them to 1.5% of the vote this year. Baby steps!
If you know deep in your soul that either Biden or Trump will be the next president, doing anything else is a cop-out. It may be tough, like deciding to jump or burn in a building that’s on fire, but some decisions in life are very tough.
No his reasoning is sound and voting for the duopoly gets you no where fast. Just the opposite of copping out. It is a very principled stand against the status quo.
I urge everyone to take the poll at http://www.isidewith.com
Once you take the poll, you will learn more about yourself, and how you compare to the various parties. You may find you are secretly a green, or a libertarian, or you may find that you are in the correct party. You can spend more time there, and explore individual issues, and see where all parties stand on those.
As you take the poll, don’t forget to rank each question for how important it is to you. If you do, you will get more accurate results.
If you want endless wars, you have two choices, Trump or Biden, both will continue fighting wars. If you want increased deficit spending, you have two choices, Trump or Biden. Both will continue to increase the national debt. It just a matter of where you want the last 200-500 Billion to be spent on. If you want more government in your lives, you have two choices, Trump or Biden. Neither will do anything to decrease the amount of intrusiveness in our lives. They will continue to pass laws making this or that required, this or that illegal. If you want more partisan bickering, you have two choices, Biden or Trump. Neither will solve the problem, it isn’t in there best interest anymore. I am tired of supporting the above policies, seeing no differences (significant) in either choice. I support most of the ideas and policies set forth by Jo Jorgensen, so I will support her. As far as game theory, when both of your choices make you feel like you lost the game, what does it matter? I am playing the long game, hoping libertarian party can start actually making a dent, and become a viable third option. Nobody I talk to is interested in voting “for” Biden or Trump. They are voting AGAINST one or the other. Is this what we really want? I choose to for FOR Jo Jorgensen.
USA will be destroyed by Democrats long before Libertarian party would have any theoretical chance of becoming a major party.
Trump has withdrawn most of the troops from Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria and this policy choice by Trump has been fought every step of the way by military-industrial-complex and FOREVER WARS loving generals Obama installed during his 8 years in addition to the FOREVER WARS loving generals George W. Bush installed in his 8 years.
Recently Trump stated he wanted all troops home from Afghanistan for Christmas and the numbers are dropping to 2500 before the end of the year according to current plans before Trump’s statement while under Obama American soldiers were kept walking around the villages in Afghanistan and Iraq “to win hearts and minds” and getting killed or maimed by the thousands as a consequence of Obama’s inept and stupid policies and desire to keep large troop numbers in both and have them follow the fairytale strategies Obama and his liberal advisors and Obama loving generals like Mad-Dog Mattis decided to pursue.
Obama also destabilized whole of Europe and Libya and Syria with Obama’s support for arab spring and by supporting the islamists against Gaddafi in Libya and CIA arming and training ISIS in Syria through Free Syrian Army whose troops always defected to ISIS or Al-Nusra/al-Qaida after they had gotten their training and arms and this created two floods of “refugees” to Europe and one was sub-saharan Africans through Libya and one was syrians and iraqis and afghans through Turkey.
“At the end of a century that has seen the evils of communism, Nazism and other modern tyrannies, the impulse to centralize power remains amazingly persistent.” ~ Joseph Sobran
I filled in the bubble for Jorgensen yesterday.
I agree with maybe 90% of her platform and that is more than enough, especially because I would have trouble finding 10% to agree with in the Dem or Rep platforms.
If any issue is THE issue right now it is: the economy. And on this Trump and Biden will oversee the same recklessness: spending literally trillions more dollars than exist, while giving the Fed a thumbs up to pour gas on the fire.
Keith Weiner has an apt phrase: we are approaching the heat death of the economic universe. The price of yield is going to infinity — good luck investing in any venture that produces real wealth. (Some “investments” are effective means of taking money from your neighbor, but that’s not production.) As I’ve said before, the fact that real yields of treasuries are negative is ominous, because it is a solid indicator that worldwide capital is shrinking. And this shrinkage (hat tip George Costanza) is systemic, further revealed by COVID but not caused by it. The cause? Central banks have been trying to trade real yield for asset prices for decades. This is a form of theft that no one sees. Everyone thinks that stock prices and house “values” going up reflects economic strength — and that is pretty good cover for wall-to-wall theft. (Where’s Stuki?)
Given this, it’s a bit amazing to me that people see such a huge difference between Trump and Biden. Despite the stylistic differences, the actual policies and actions of Dems and Reps are much more similar than admitted. Both will continue suicidal fiscal policies (including a gigantic, doomed welfare state); both will continue drug wars; both will continue the existing projection of US military power to every corner of the globe; both will continue to regulate and tax trade; both will continue the giant squid regulatory apparatus; etc.
On immigration they are indeed different, and I admit to being nauseated by the xenophobia of Trumpers, who somehow fantasize that foreigners are a cause of US decline. (Look in the mirror, buddy.) But immigration policy can hardly be issue #1 when I compare to the rest of the injustices of the US gov. Though I might feel differently if I had relatives in Mexico who had no chance to immigrate.
I think the thought processes that the AVERAGE voter goes through before deciding which candidate to pull the lever for….is extremely simplistic, uninformed, and emotionally driven.
Physical appearance
Celebrity
Combativeness
Ability to create fear
Ability to cast the blame for major problems onto the opponent
Ability to make short pithy attacks using social media (Twitter especially)
All these things matter more than issues and platform planks. So that’s the kind of political process you get in a corporate controlled world with lots of deliberate misinformation and voters who are grossly under informed and very poorly educated.
Your list is already shooting way to high. They vote on feelz, mainly affected by a subjective mix of physical appearance, bearing, presidentialness, authentic, sympathetic, sincere, smart, gravitas, etc.
Weighing policy alternatives or probable outcomes is something that puts you in very select company. Before the advent of the camera, radio, and TV, people actually had no idea who the guy was except on the basis of what they could read. Imagine that.
The reckless debt spending is a CONSEQUENCE of the reckless immigration policies that lowered/stagnated working class wages for tens of years and those reckless immigration policies with the wage lowering/stagnation effect would have lowered consumption and crashed company profits without the debt bubble created by Fed policies and Wall Street/banks loading Americans up to the gills with debt and without Federal government wildly over-spending enabled by the Fed to make up partly for the lowered consumption caused by stagnating/lowering wages.
Jorgensen wants NO BORDERS and unrestricted immigration thereby putting the developments of the last 30 years on ROCKET BOOSTERS which will lead to an even bigger debt bubbles everywhere OR economy destroying tax increases OR severe cuts in all welfare programs which will lead to civil unrest.
Vote for Jorgensen is a vote for making your fellow Americans poorer and create more homelessness, poverty and desperation among Americans.
Vote for Jorgensen is a vote for USA to become Venezuela within 20 years in my opinion if she happened to win but she has absolutely no chance to win so in the current polling situation with Joe Biden leading the polls vote for Jorgensen is in my opinion in effect a vote for Joe Biden and if Joe Biden wins USA will be Venezuela within 20 years after Biden gives the amnesty and US citizenship to all current ILLEGAL immigrants (29.5 million according to MIT-Yale study) and tens of millions of new ILLEGAL immigrants will come to USA to either lie their way into the Biden amnesty (just claim they were in USA before whatever cut-off date Biden/Harris choose for the amnesty) or wait for the 2nd amnesty or the 3rd amnesty which will surely come which they can wait out after Democrats abolish/cripple ICE and stop deportations and stop immigration enforcement and stop border security.
The Biden amnesty will give Democrats 29.5 million new voters making Texas and Arizona and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Florida and many others permanently Democrat voting states which will lead to Democrats winning and controlling the Presidency, House and Senate for the next 100 years no matter how far-left/socialist/marxist Democrats turn with Bernie and AOC and more extreme Democrats elected in later years.
Add to that court-packing Supreme Court to have more judges until there is a leftist majority in Supreme Court and USA will be a one party state no different from China or Venezuela or Russia with Republicans just an impotent sideshow and Democrats being in total control.
Democrats are openly spitting in the face of 150+ years of tradition and rules on the Supreme Court with their court-packing plans which many Democrats have endorsed and which Biden has REFUSED to comment on thereby making it clear he intends to do it.
The only way Democrats would heal as a party would be to lose in 2020 massively so they would have to re-evaluate their policies and cancel their no-borders/amnesty/sanctuary-city/socialist policies.
Vote for Jorgensen is a vote for a future Democrats/Socialists/Biden/Harris want as surely as a vote for Biden is a vote for that future.
Well the overspending of D’s and R’s may cause economic catastrophe within 20 years, I’ll give you that. No idea why you think Trump isn’t part of that club. His budgets are yuuuge.
Today’s WSJ: “President Trump recently said he could support even more [relief] than the White House’s latest $1.88 trillion proposal…” That’s more than a $10 bill for every INCH from the coast of California to the coast of Maine.
You have the luxury of voting this way because you live/vote in Utah.
Your vote is meaningless, but if it makes you feel good, then OK.
Mish I have made my position of the Libs very clear, but I seriously respect your endorsement, you must do as your conscience dictates. And, I approve of any vote that is not for Jabba the Trump. Not that you need my approval.
I will say in the mildest form of rebuttal I can work up, the United States is perhaps fatally divided after four years of Trump’s reich, and voting for a third party with no hope of winning is just dividing us further. A vote for Biden would be a show of solidarity with the nation no matter how you feel about Joe B. The first step on the long road back from a nightmare. No matter what you think of Biden at least we will survive him, the same cannot be said for Trump.
I am not going to fret over a few million votes for Jorgensen though, the landslide Biden will have against the fat orange spy will be so huge as to be beyond any illigitimacy and will be theft proof. There will be no plausible way even russian FSB hackers can change that many votes without it being obvious.
Biden will have 30 million more votes than the Trump Junta.
[EDIT] HANDS OFF THE VA HEALTHCARE SYSTEM! It needs to exist seperate from other plans, vets have unique issues that the civilian medical community do not understand and it is funded in a way that is incompatible with other systems. It is also a model for healthcare delivery by government that is half the cost of standaard care in the US, it is not perfect but the vast majority of vets are well served by it.
Speaking of spying and treason, wasn’t your guy just caught out trading the interests of the nation for 30 silverlings in various countries? At least Judas had remorse, according to the story.
No vote is a wasted vote. I absolutely hate using modernistic woke-ite lingo but why do people keep ‘vote shaming’ those who don’t support their particular agenda? It is especially fashionable in the college educated population to call people idiots for not thinking like they do.
That’s why I a huge fan of ranked voting. It offers an avenue to more political diversity and breaking the power breakers. It’s not just in the US or two-party systems. In many European countries (where there is no first past the post, many parties, and proportionate representation) people vote tactically as well, putting more emphasis on influencing a possible coalition than voting for the party they agree most with.
Jo Jorgensen is ECONOMICALLY ILLITERATE because she believes “immigration helps the economy”.
Bringing in the current 29.5 million ILLEGAL immigrants to USA (number from MIT-Yale study in 2018) has NOT helped the economy because these 29.5 million ILLEGAL immigrants have STOLEN tens of millions of jobs from AMERICANS thereby leading to many unemployed Americans and many people not in work force (work force participation rate in USA is low compared to many European countries) and this has increased the cost of government/state welfare programs (which has increased debt levels), increased despair and social problems and led to increased crimes among desperate Americans especially blacks which has furthered the prison-industrial-complex created by legislation WRITTEN by Joe Biden during Reagan, George H.W. Bush and first two years of Bill Clinton presidency culminating in the 1994 crime bill.
Further the 29.5 million ILLEGAL immigrants have, in addition to stealing tens of millions of jobs, LOWERED/STAGNATED American working class wages for tens of years for all Americans and this would have led to consumption dropping and companies profits crashing without The Fed creating policies that pushed massive levels of debt on Americans to keep the consumption going that was NO longer supported by wages.
So immigration has CAUSED huge piles of federal/state debt and consumer debt mountains.
Joe Biden also had a hand in enabling banks and credit card companies to prey on Americans with the legislation he either wrote or sponsored which for example made student debts non-dischargeable in bankruptcy thereby leading to banks hiking the dollar amounts of student loans massively which in turn led to colleges and universities hiking tuition prices massively and Joe Biden also benefited credit card issuers massively with his legislation which led to Hunter Biden getting a luxury office and high paid position at MBNA the biggest credit card issuer at the time (based in Delaware) and with no expectation of an actual job performance or any work expected from him and no qualifications for the job.
Without 29.5 million ILLEGAL immigrants wages would be 15 dollars an hour minimum based on SUPPLY and DEMAND of workers and there would be LESS debt carried by consumers and less debt on federal/state level.
Some naively think that amnesty and US citizenship to all current ILLEGAL immigrants (like Joe Biden has promised) would solve the illegal immigration problem but in reality it would attract tens of millions of NEW illegal immigrants to USA to either get into the Biden amnesty by lying they were in USA before the cut-off date of the amnesty ( whatever Biden/Harris/Democrats set) or wait for the next amnesty and further increase the wage lowering/stagnation while at the same time leading to massive new costs on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP-EBT foodstamps, Section-8 housing, federal tax credits, state welfare systems when 29.5 million (or 40-50 million after the rush to get into USA and get into the amnesty happened) new eligible users would flood those systems and lead to either more and more of deficit spending, huge tax increases or massive cuts in all of those programs.
ILLEGAL immigration and low wage LEGAL immigration are BOTH negative for the economy and for Americans and USA should completely stop immigration unless a person comes for a private sector job earning a minimum 120k a year and the employer pays for luxury health insurance for their employee on top of the wage.
For all other positions USA has more than enough American workers whose lives would be better if they got a higher wage or Americans who could be trained to do those jobs and who would be motivated to train and do those jobs when wages offered for those jobs would be better.
“Jobs Americans just won’t do” is a LIE and does NOT exist at all provided markets are allowed to function and the company is FORCED by laws of supply and demand to raise the wage they offer for the job until they find willing candidates ready to do that job and there is no way to shortcut Supply and Demand by employing ILLEGAL immigrants or by bringing low wage LEGAL immigrants from abroad.
ILLEGAL immigration and low wage LEGAL immigration ONLY benefit Wall Street and banks and Democrats importing new voters.
The fact that Jo Jorgensen supports open borders and massive unrestricted immigration makes it clear Jo Jorgensen is the candidate for Wall Street and billionaires just like Joe Biden is.
Last Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson stated about bankers/Wall Street “none of them committed any crimes” in the 2007-2009 crash and before and Mish decided to not endorse Gary Johnson and instead supported and voted for Trump:
Why is Mish supporting Jo Jorgensen in 2020 despite Jo Jorgensen being for policies that would massively increase debt mountains, continue lowering/stagnating American workers wages and massively increase entitlement programs leading to either massive cuts in them or more deficit spending or huge tax increases to pay for everything?
In Europe people are fond of repeating the nostrum that immigrants have enriched the host country’s culture and bring untold benefits, doing work white folk think is demeaning. The facts are very different:
In many of these European countries they were still paying (!) their own native sons and daughters to emigrate because of overcrowding or whatever just 10 years before they started to import migrants (after rising wage/consumption gains in the sixties). The IRONY. Now there’s double the population, and the big city school population is often more than 50% of foreign extraction. A little extrapolation with the birth rate of white women and the continuing influx of migrants (+ their birth rate) easily get you to majority migrant cities in the near future. (Whether they will remain Muslim over the generations remains to be seen). To top it off, people are celebrating immigrants and their birth rate as the solution to a falling population, after paying people to emigrate!
Jo Jorgensen FACTS:
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Jo Jorgensen would crash and burn Social Security by allowing people to stop paying into Social Security on day ONE:
“Jorgensen stressed the limits in our constitutional system of how much libertarian change a president alone could unilaterally deliver. She said she’d be quick to veto excessive spending and to pardon victimless criminals, but she thinks those who have paid into Social Security deserve to get that money back—so she’s against instantly killing the system entirely, though she said she would allow people to stop paying into it from day one.”
2.
Jo Jorgensen presidency would lead to rampant destruction of the environment because Jo Jorgensen does NOT believe in regulation in that area but would instead demand that companies who poison environment would need to pay “restitution” for environmental damage or buy “insurance”.
Anybody who has even a basic understanding of companies should realize that this would lead to companies destroying environment to get a competitive advantage and siphon profits away from the company and once it comes to pay the restitution the company will have no money and will be bankrupt so tax-payers will be left with destroyed environment and the bill for cleaning up what can be cleaned up and many kinds of pollution can NOT be cleaned up.
Those companies not planning to destroy environment as a business model would be hit with so large insurance fees from insurance companies that they would become totally uncompetitive.
” Jorgensen thinks a system of restitution for environmental damage plus insurance would likely mitigate future oil spills more than regulation does.”
Jorgensen statements 1 and 2 from:
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Jorgensen is for unrestricted immigration and for NO BORDERS so when 40% of Middle East and North African countries youth and over 50% in sub-saharan Africa wants to move to USA or Europe according to surveys they should be able to move to USA and likewise for the tens of millions of South Americans who dream of USA according to Jorgensen:
” In a Libertarian presidential primary debate, Jorgensen said she would immediately stop construction on President Donald Trump’s border wall. During another primary debate she blamed anti-immigration sentiment on disproportionate media coverage of crimes by immigrants. She argued that immigration helps the economy and that the blending of cultures is beneficial.[37][38][39][40]”
So when you are voting for Jorgensen you are voting for a person who believes media should NOT report crimes committed by immigrants so in essence you are voting for a person who believes in BRAINWASHING people by keeping the reality of immigrant/ILLEGAL immigrant committed crimes even more hidden than media does now.
Crimes committed by immigrants and especially by ILLEGAL immigrants are massively UNDERREPORTED in USA with most getting only local coverage and omitting the fact that the criminal was an immigrant or ILLEGAL immigrant.
It doesn’t really matter. The message is we’d like some other options.
Well, at least you documented your posts well enough this time, that is an improvement. However your 30,000 word diatribe against immigrants is wearing just a tad thin these days. So, what is your budget proposal for closing the barn door after the horses all ran off?
wow, a lot of comments and emotion about this one.
Of course I agree 100% Mish.
Voting for someone is giving your consent to be ruled by them, and so just because others argue between these two does not mean that one should consent to these as the only options. Not voting, implies tacit consent.
Our country continues to get the president we deserve and until we wake up that will remain.
At least I go to bed knowing I didn’t personally consent to whatever these self serving jackasses do as president. I did vote for Bush in 1988 based on the lesser of two evils argument but I knew better even then and still regret that vote.
hat tip to you, mish. you are intellectually honest and have a backbone and morals. unfortunately, not too common. keep it up, please.
I am officially endorsing myself for President.
The reason is, that I am uniquely qualified to know precisely what I would do as President to fix the U.S.
Jo is a non-conventional candidate with a lot of in-ordinary political proposals, just as tRump was in 2016. tRump attracted many voters unhappy with mainstream candidates, but has turned out to be a total disaster for humanity. What make people so sure that Jo is not another tRump?
In any case, Jo has no chance to win, so any vote for Jo is a vote less for Biden, thus increasing the chance of a tRump win.
any vote for Jo is a vote less for Trump, thus increasing the chance of a bIden win.
Based on current polling (even though most polls heavily over-sample Democrats) Joe Biden is leading in the polls so every vote for anybody else than Trump is in effect a vote for Joe Biden.
People in swing states who vote for Jo Jorgensen are making a Biden/Harris presidency more likely.
Enjoy that thumbs up FoJ, it may be the only one you ever get from me, but in this post you are 100% right. Far and away more votes for Jorgensen will come out of Trump’s column than from Biden. In a state as close as OH or AZ or GA and maybe even TX this time the votes for JJ will probably exceed the margin by which Trump loses states he took in 2016.
I’ve never been able to understand why we have Green Party and Libertarian candidates when they have a zero chance of winning. Would a 50 year old person wake up one morning and decide they are going to train to win the Olympic gold medal for 100m?
A vote for anyone other than Biden is a vote for Trump. I can understand your support for a minor party candidate in certain years but this is not the time. A vote for Trump is a vote for chaos and corruption.
A vote for anyone other than Trump is a vote for Biden.
How is Trump Corruption? He’s anything but. Every eye in the media watches his every move and is silent on Bidens.
You should seriously re-evaluate your postion
Trump and Biden are both corrupt and neither cares a whit about the average American. It’s all ZIRP/NIRP from here on, regardless of who wins.
I salute this endorsement. I agree with virtually everything even though I am not libertarian. Two comments.
Do you support ranked voting?
She probably would make a better president. I agree with you 100% about our health care system. It is a joke and completely bankrupt. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
It’s not wasting a vote because it is helping bring to the light a political party that deserves attention. Last year I believe Gary Johnson had the most votes of a third party candidate in a long time. If Jo can surpass that, it might bring legitimacy to the party for the next election. I do believe that in 25 years or so the republican party will either break up or shift their views to become more libertarian. Conservatism has too many flaws that lose followers because of outdated ideologies. The government should be limited and civil liberties should be protected. Capitalism is king and the only way we can climb out of the deficit.
And that you will hear nothing about until 4 years from now again.
Joe Biden is a puppet for the socialists/marxists among Democrats and vote for either Joe Biden or 3rd party makes Joe Biden winning more likely which will lead to more socialist/marxist policies.
It is amazing how many people equate a vote for a non-R/D candidate as supporting either the R or D candidate!! (usually at the expense of their candidate of choice…)
In 2016 almost 41% of eligible voters chose to not select a candidate, dwarfing the support for either major political party. It would be refreshing if that cohort would actively show they are not beholden to the D/R paradigm by choosing another option, so greater ‘diversity’ of political thought would be normalized.
Totally,..totally agree with Mish !
I’m voting for Jo !
I will not waste my vote on human garbage such as Trumposaurus or Bidenless.
It’s time for a real person to enter the WH,…Jo is that person.
Now,..if we also can get rid of McConnell, Graham, Rubio, Cruz, and all the other ball-less punks that have sucked up to the Trumposaurus,…we just might have a country worth living in again.
Jo Jorgansen is the answer.
Like Trump, Jorgensen is right about some things (e.g. foreign policy, military complex) and wrong about others (deficit pearl-clutching when huge unused capacity, unemployment, infrastructure needs). That said, a vote for her is a vote for Trump. I wouldn’t want to live with that, although I suppose in CA you can afford to self indulge sending an idiosyncratic message.
Joe Biden is leading in the polls therefore a vote for Jorgensen is in effect a vote for Joe “corruption” Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
Once again half my comments are disappearing as fast as they’re made. I don’t really think it’s random…..somebody is censoring my comments….I have no idea who it is….I don’t blame Mish….but it’s happening almost every day……just thought I’d pass that on…..it will be interesting to see how long this little complaint is allowed to stay up.
I see your comments regularly and daily here.
When things like this happen, try a refresh first (F5 in Windows). For me, Chrome has problems showing new posts unless I do an F5.
If that doesn’t show anything, then I usually try another browser where I don’t have any logon cookies set for that site. That way I see exactly what a new user should be seeing. If you see your “missing” post(s) doing this, then you have a problem with some browser setting or ad/tracking blocker.
If I click on my username, the first line of the comments is still showing them to be in the system, but if I click on them to open them, they are no longer up. I do not think that’s indicative of a browser issue
It isn’t all my comments….just some of them. I have been commenting quite a bit.
I noticed chrome acting up in several ways about 2 weeks ago. I had Microsoft Edge already installed when I bought this computer several years ago. The first thing I installed was Webroot antivirus, and then Google Chrome. Never had any problems until about 2 weeks ago when a Microsoft update got installed and all the passwords stored on Chrome stopped working plus a variety of other irritating problems. Yeah… The Microsoft war to become the single source strikes again.
I have had comments disappear when the comments provided several links to public news articles outlining the problems with Joe Biden and Democrats and also my comments have disappeared outlining studies on HCQ like Henry Ford Hospitals did showing giving severely ill Covid patients HCQ immediately after hospital admission cut death rates over -50% meaning over 100k people are dead because of Democrat/Media campaign attacking HCQ and CDC is partly to blame because they in essence banned HCQ after a Lancet publication that was withdrawn after 2 weeks because the data claiming adverse effect from HCQ was made up by the company selling the data to the “scientists” who did the Lancet study.
Either TheStreet is deleting the comments or then Mish is deleting the comments or Mish has given somebody the authority to delete comments and they are doing it.
I think it might have to do with an algorithm that looks for certain key words.
My comment yesterday, although completely benign, contained the term Deep State, the word revolution, and perhaps other words that might be triggering an algorithm designed to censor political extremism and/or hate speech.
If so, this is a kind of corporate censorship..the aim is for the platform owners to steer clear of trouble with regulators..but it’s still censorship. No way to know for sure….just frustrating.
With regard to the disappearing comments, I would sooner think about technical glitches than censorship. I’ve see comments in my comments logs that did not make it/disappeared from the article, but they were short comments without links and nothing controversial enough.
America is on raging fire. The top priority is to extinguish the fire. Any argument on any other thing is wasting precious resources and is irresponsible.
The top priority is to get rid of tRump.
Joe Biden is CLEARLY CORRUPT.
Hunter Biden was cashing in on Joe Biden and giving Joe Biden a cut.
BBC overview:
The Sun exposes that Joe Biden was getting a cut from the CORRUPTION done by Joe Biden and Hunter Biden:
“All major politicians in the duopoly’s parties are CLEARLY CORRUPT.”
Fixed your post. Okay, there are always exceptions, people like Katie Porter perhaps.
What you fail to realize is that America was founded on Libertarian principals. If you think socialism in any way helps incomes, ends monopolies, or helps the environment, you are delusional.
Monopolies are the result of the laws of incorporation in which socialism is applied to business. It allows special treatment of business and allows corporations to limit competition and own government by way of campaign contributions.
Socialism is evil. It can never be justified, and ruins every society which embraces it.
There are only 2 states of being for humans. The first is individual sovereignty where the individual owns themselves, and their lives, and the State is subservient to the people. The other is feudalism where the State is sovereign and owns the individuals, and their lives, and the people are subservient to the State.
It is impossible to have socialism without feudalism, and total control by the State.
While I am a libertarian, a real one at that, I still have to cast my vote in this election to Trump. Not because I am a great fan of Trump, but because he is the lesser of two evils.
While I would love to see Jorgenson in office, it is not going to happen. Given that reality, what is the next choice to minimize the most amount of damage to our personal rights and to the principals established in the Constitution? It is to oppose the socialism that the Democrats are trying to force down our throats.
Libertarians first and foremost believe in the non aggression principal. That is to say, any law which negates natural rights by way of force is morally wrong and must be resisted.
This is a pivotal election. The riots in our cities, the implementation of the 1619 project, reparations, the green deal, are all socialist policies designed to strip the American people of their natural rights and to implement socialism. The political spectrum is not Republicans at one end and Democrats at the other. It is libertarians at one end and Democrats at the other with Republicans in the middle. While we may not be able to put a Libertarian in the White House, it would be a tragic and irreversible error to put a Democrat in office who would accelerate the downfall of liberty and the rights of the citizens.
Jo Jorgansen is also against requiring parents to vaccinate children.
Do we really want to bring back Polio and Measles? The more I learn about her the less I like
Your argument is a strawman. If someone is not vaccinated, they are the only ones at risk. If the vaccinations work, then the vaccinated people have nothing to worry about.
What the American people do have to worry about is a government which believes they own the people and can force them to do what ever they want. That is a government Joseph Stalin would be proud of…
So far as I know, she is not an anti-vaxer. She is opposed to government ordering vaccinations. She is also personally opposed to abortion, but supports Roe v. Wade.
She’s against this
For decades, all 50 states have required that parents vaccinate their children against various diseases, including polio and measles, as a prerequisite to enrolling them in public schools
Note that you can choose not to vaccinate your child, if you really want to, by choosing to home school, or sending them to private schools, if there is one that doesn’t require vaccinations.
Btw, Libertarians are against “state supported schools”, too.
Given the drubbing that it looks like Trump will get, I think the best course is for the Trump-forever people is to start their own party–perhaps call it the Trump Party.
After all isn’t the GOP just hanging on through Trump’s popularity?
Switch the message, dump the GOP foot-draggers. All Trump, all the time. Isn’t that what is truly wanted?
New party–no need to mold to any other expectations.
After all, there are two more generations of Trump that can run under that party.
Donald/Ivanka 2024 !!
Re: “After all isn’t the GOP just hanging on through Trump’s popularity?”
The conversation is quickly evolving into a question about the Sun Belt specifically causing cracks in the GOP electoral coalition. Will states like NC, GA, FL, and perhaps TX too keep drifting toward the blue vote? Migration from northern states flushed VA blue over the last three presidential cycles. NC seems to be at the mid-point of said evolution with GA maybe 1-2 cycles behind. If those three states are reliably blue and the blue wall is rebuilt, GOP is in for 1-3 decades of very difficult Electoral math.
Mish, your reasoning is sound. In support, I pine for the day that we can rank our votes amongst the top 4, detailed here:
Sumary:
Political system is not broke, but doing successfully what it’s designed to do.
Don’t divide the voters, but offer more choices.
Election reform
1 Primaries: restructure election process
a. move non-partisan single ballot primaries
b. top 4 vote getters advance
2 General Election, rank choice voting
a. drop the last candidate, re-allocate votes to remaining 3 candidate
b. rinse and repeat until one candidate gets 50% or over
note: eliminates 3rd party spoiler candidate problem, which enhances competition
3 Non-partisan redistricting
Legislative reforms
note: 5 centrist congressmen could tip the balance either way on a vote
Lobbying reform
I don’t agree with your point about voting in NY and California. If i infer correctly you’re speaking about general elections. In many locals the true decision making is done during the primaries.
As far as health care. We need to ensure citizenry takes care of their basic health and engages in preventative care. This saves money. It’s a lot easier to deal with a small problem than a big one. It’s just a fact that people face with limited means will sacrifice preventative health only to see a more expensive larger problem later. As a society we can’t wait for people to show up at a hospital an then have everyone else’s bill get jacked up so the hospital recoups their cost.
I’ not a fan of the ACA solution. I prefer the Swiss model but this country is so messed up. I can’t see Americans reacting well to their salaries being garnished without their will to a private insurance company providing their insurance.
As a practical matter, wages in the US are garnished for health insurance, so that doesn’t seem like a reason the US could not adapt a Swiss model. This seems a separable, tax question as the key thing about health insurance in the US is that it’s pre-tax money.
The Swiss, by the way, apparently are an outlier half-way to US spending levels, as represented by those in favor of Medicare-for-all-ish systems. They are also a rich, practical-minded country like the US.
The US already has a fully funded Medicare-for-all system. Why the US government’s system doesn’t cover everyone now is a question that advocates of that system need to answer.
As a practical matter, wages in the US are garnished for health insurance
What are you referring to? How is this done?
For tax and legal reasons, most people have health insurance deducted pre-tax in a way that makes the deduction seem like a benefit rather than they are being forced to buy a very particular thing. Isn’t the Swiss (and Singapore?) model having that force explicitly applied to the individual, separate from has particular job?
I’m against linking health insurance to employment . I think it reduces worker mobility.
There is no reason to have to look at socialistic european models that force people to participate involuntarily to come up with a new better system. I find it curious that few seem to care about medical costs – it’s just basically ‘let’s get everyone covered’. I like Jorgensen’s ‘how insurance works example’ it shows the basic corruptibility in the system with occulted costs. Step 1 is make cost transparent, come up with a transparent system for measuring performance of and ranking doctors, hospitals, nurses etc.
Mish, I totally agree. I will be voting for Jo Jorgensen.
What is wasting a vote? Wasting a vote is voting for someone you don’t believe in. I don’t believe in Biden. I don’t believe in Trump. A vote for either would be a total waste. Not wasting a vote is to vote for what you believe in, and I believe in Jo’s platform. Oh, there are minor disagreements, but nothing that bothers me. On the other hand, Trump is appalling, and Biden threatens to be awful as well.
If everyone chooses the perceived “lesser of two evils”, the only choices they ever will have to choose from will be evil. The only way to force the two major parties to reform is to have other parties rise to compete with them. We’ve seen that happen in Europe, and it can happen here. If people agree with Libertarians, they should vote Libertarian, and as their vote count grows, they will be taken seriously. If people agree with Greens, or Socialists, they should vote Green or Socialist.
What we have now is a vicious circle. People say “Libertarians can’t win”, so they don’t vote for them, so they struggle in the shadows, and can never get off the ground. Even if 30% of the people agree with them, so long as the vote stays at 3%, they never make progress. In Europe it has become the norm for minor parties to play a factor, and so they capture the votes they deserve.
“What is wasting a vote? Wasting a vote is voting for someone you don’t believe in. I don’t believe in Biden. I don’t believe in Trump. A vote for either would be a total waste.”
How utterly sophomoric!
The reality is that you only have the choice of the two major candidates. That is how the game works here in the USA. Voting for JJ or anyone else other than the Trump/Biden is a throw away vote, allowing someone other than yourself to make a choice for you. This is what got Trump elected in 2016. Whew.
Your “game theory” analogy assumes the game ends in 2020.
Some of us look at 2020 as an automatic loss, whether Biden or Trump wins.
Our vote for whichever is the “lesser evil” is still a loss.
But if the major Parties keep putting up their lesser evils and getting slammed, one of them may eventually put up a better candidate in 2022, 2024, etc.
My 2020 game is done. My 2020 vote is a message to the DNC to stop with the games. They deserve to lose if the best candidates they can field are H Clinton and Biden. They want my vote… they need to stop locking out their best players.
Meanwhile, I hate Trump and I hate the hard left that the Democrats have taken. I lose either way in 2020. My middle finger goes up to both Parties and I’m not alone, no matter how many Trump-haters say, “a VoTe fOr aNyBoDy OtHeR tHaN BiDeN iS a VoTe FoR tRump.” That crap was frankly the only motivation for me to vote for either major party (to vote for Trump, basically), but I just couldn’t do it.
Biden is leading in the polls.
Therefore vote for anybody else than Trump is a vote for Joe Biden.
FactsOnJoe, I get what you’re saying and it’s more correct than most people, who are saying, “A vote for anybody other than the person I want, no matter the state, is a vote for the most evil person on Earth,” and implicitly, “vote my way or you suck, you’re stupid and I hate you.”
I swear Trump has worn off on both his followers and haters and they’re all behaving like children now.
But it’s even more complex than what you’re saying…
A vote for Trump or Biden or anybody in ~38 states is meaningless. I live in Oregon, it’s going to Biden, a vote for Deeznutz isn’t a vote for Biden (or Trump).
The story changes in swing states, in the way you’ve mentioned, except that Biden isn’t leading in all swing states, AND Trump has turned non-swing states like Georgia into swing states. So throwing your vote away in Texas has a different impact than doing so in Michigan.
In any event, swing state or not, if 5 or 10 million people across the country vote for somebody other than Biden and Trump, those votes are a message. Eventually a major party will receive it and make an attempt to field a candidate and put together a platform that can capture those voters.
It is amazing how Biden supporters are suggesting that one can not think for themselves and we all should listen to them. In such case, it is no longer a democracy.
It is amazing how Biden supporters are suggesting that we can’t think for ourselves and chose to either vote or not vote for a candidate of our choice. That is the exact reason why moved away from Dems.
Whatever makes you feel good…
Nothing is going to change in our political landscape until money is taken out of politics completely.
All political races should be paid for out of tax revenues with perhaps relatively small contributions allowed ONLY by private citizens. No money from companies, corporations, PACs, etc. would be allowed. If you were caught funneling money to a politicians/campaign, the penalty would be mandatory jail time plus some fine.
Political campaigns should be limited to say 8-12 weeks, as some countries currently do. No political advertising, interviews or discussions would be permitted prior to the official start of each campaign in an effort to eliminate the 2-3 year long, “what if”, “horse race” campaigns we currently have, thus hopefully forcing the MSM to focus on real news that matters to a greater number of people.
A major additional benefit of public funded campaigns in this manner would be to expand the pool of who could/would run for office, assuming they meet some basic qualifications (TBD), thus opening up the talent pool significantly.
OTOH, the MSM would lose significant political advertising $$ so they would not be happy with short, low expense campaigns. Political “pundits” would need to look for another line of work. Talking head news anchors might need to find another line of work. Lastly, swamp denizens, power brokers, lobbyists & lawyers would also be losers and therefore likely against any such reforms.
The problem with “public” funding of political campaigns is: Who controls the money? As a practical matter, that would be civil servants. Well, civil servants are certainly selfless and even-handed, right? This can be verified by noting the selflessness and even-handedness of their political party now.
Money taken out of politics? Right. The US federal government, alone, spends several trillion dollars a year. It makes sense to spend a few billion to manage those trillions.
If you give jail time to those who do spend those billions, do you expect those billions of spending to go away, or would they just go under the table?
“examine the idea more closely. “Public” financing of politics is a recipe for corruption.”
And private funding isn’t? So what is YOUR workable solution? Please make sure it at least addresses all of the points I brought out. I’ll be waiting but not holding my breath.
Well, first, I don’t think what we have now is so bad. Of course, there will always be problems, but … say, it might be a good idea to reduce complexity.
As to improvements, I’d get rid of $ limits from single sources! I’d require the candidates to account for money spent (though off-the-books, in-kind promos from friendly media people overwhelm paid promotions at the national level these days). The idea is, why bother making the pros jump over fences of their own design while leaving small-time amateurs on the other side?
As to your point “… no political advertising…”: In the US, suppressing political speech is a bit of a no-no. Gosh, I wonder why? Yeah, I’m gonna go with the Constitution on that one. … Unless, of course, the suppressed speech is from the “Other Guy” (TM). Then, oh yeah, he has no right to demagog and fool those fools who are so easily fooled. And, no, some completely unbiased and selfless bureaucrat does not get to decide who that “Other Guy” is. I do. I am totally selfless, and rational, and uh, what was I saying? Oh yeah, honest. Honest to the core. You can trust me.
Given her platform I would expect Israel, AIPAC, the ADL, and the SPLC will vehemently campaign against her, which is an endorsement by itself.
They usually do.
There must be people who normally support either of the main parties that don’t like this time’s binary choice. If they all vote for an unlikely alternative it’s a message and maybe the first stages of change.
I found myself there in 2016 and again in 2020.
I voted for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Bill Clinton, Dukakis.
No way for Hillary. No way for Biden (and the Democratic Party of 2020… has lost me altogether).
But Never Trump.
If enough people vote, but refuse to choose the lesser of two evils, the message is sent. Again, one vote doesn’t matter.
One thing to remember… if you’re high up in the DNC and you have a choice between “Biden wins nomination but loses general election” and “Bernie wins nomination and wins general election,” remember, you only keep your job in the former scenario.
Look what happened in the RNC with Trump.
If an outsider wins the Presidency, they clean house within their own Party.
Armed citizenry? There is already some controversy with Jorgensen and Boogaloo. Whether she supports them or courts them is hardly the point. We have a problem with militias. We don’t need more. This is a huge disqualifier.
Health care? Is she for the Swiss model which I like? I don’t read that. Seems like under her plan if you can’t afford it you get Tussin and prayers.
Switzerland is a successful country but a country with a largely homogeneous country the size of Israel. Yea they speak four languages but the differences are fewer than the similarities. It’s no blueprint for the U.S. Sure they had 500 years of peace and prosperity but that was due to mountains and all they achieved was the Cookoo clock( see 3rd man).
I still go back to my point that 2020 is a binary choice. We all know its gointo be Biden or Trump. Yea some will write in Ronald Reagan but it ain’t happening. Four years ago those that wrote in Jill Stein helped elect Donald Trump
I don’t think armed militias are a huge deal. There will be incidents on the scale of the mass shootings we’ve had in the past, maybe an OKC building or two, but nothing that poses an existential threat to the country. I’m willing to tolerate the existence of the Gravy Seals, Meal Team Six, Y’all Queda and the Yeehaadists. Statistically these chuckleheads are a much smaller threat to me that people texting and driving. They can really only be terrorists if we allow ourselves to be terrorized by them.
Armed citizenry attempted to take out a U.S. governor. They were pretty far along in their plan. It’s a huge deal
Those armed citizens that had “a plan” against Michigan’s Whitmer were Antifa/anarchists.
Those people had Antifa/anarchist flags on their walls when ranting on video and those same Antifa/Anarchists were anti-Trump.
The FBI disagrees.
The dudes planning to attack Whitmer were Antifa supporters:
thegatewaypundit is a trash site that peddles in conspiracies, nonsense and outright lies.
Any actual evidence that they are antifa from a source more credible than the FBI ? As far as I can tell the FBI is indicating pretty hard that they are extremist thugs who happen to be on the right side of the political spectrum. I also fail to see a reason for antifa to wish to take out a democrat govenor instead of a republican.
Certain major candidate had % vote that would make Brezhnev blush.
By the way, an embargo is not same as a blockade.
Reason why Jill Stein wanted recounts last time. However in Michigan her people found in Detroit area counties a c
Stein sure wasn’t a “wasted vote” in several states. Threw them to Trump and gave him the Election.
Mish, I agree with everything you say about Jorgensen, good stuff.
Not a wasted vote even in IL, as it helps keep the party on the ballot for next time. That’s the r
I get the same reaction when I say I’m not voting for either Biden or Trump. Actually, first reaction is that they comment that you ‘need’ to vote. Of course I will vote but not for freak1 or freak2. The conversation of voting for the lessor of the two evils almost always follows. My comment, “Why would you vote for someone you consider evil?”
People are brainwashed into thinking they have only two choices. I think in reality that people that vote Biden or Trump only have 1 choice because the end result will remain the same. My wife and I registered for the Libertarian party a month back. I consider my vote a vote for change. Casting a Biden/Trump vote is a vote to continue along a path of inequality and destruction.
I sent a twitter to@KennedyNation. I stated that a vote other than Trump/Biden was a wasted vote. It received a lot of chatter. For a third party to rise up it would take a person like Trump. A lot of charisma and money. If he does not win, maybe he will switch; run as a Libertarian 2024
In the context of Trump saying any result other than him winning is illegitimate, it is important to have the highest possible vote for Biden. Even if you know how your state is going, as I do in California, symbolically the vote is still important. Not to mention everything down ballot. As a registered Republican never-Trumper, the Party of Trump needs to get destroyed up and down the ballot if there is to be any hope of reviving a responsible Republican party.
Turns out, Biden’s a rather nice guy. He just asked for what, 50% of Hunter’s haul? He could have gotten much more if he wanted!
Spam. Government told Trump a year ago that the Bidens were part of election interference campaign from Russia via Rudy. If you believe everything you hear about the Bidens, I suggest you go live in Russia.
Actually, your side of the aisle would be more comfortable in Russia.
Actually I disagree. If you don’t like more taxes, voting for Trump in a Blue state already clearly won by Biden is actually smart. Assuming of course not everybody else is as smart, which is a reasonable assumption. Ergo, MAGA!!
The Republican party is an unholy alliance between holy rollers who want to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us and billionaires who want more tax cuts because being a billionaire is just not enough to meet their greed. The Democrats keep trying to bribe voters especially minorities with other people’s money.