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Is Hillary Really Running Again? She Sounds Like It!

Hillary Clinton’s 2024 Election Comeback

The WSJ discusses Hillary Clinton’s 2024 Election Comeback

A perfect storm in the Democratic Party is making a once-unfathomable scenario plausible: a political comeback for Hillary Clinton in 2024.

Several circumstances—President Biden’s low approval rating, doubts over his capacity to run for re-election at 82, Vice President Kamala Harris’s unpopularity, and the absence of another strong Democrat to lead the ticket in 2024—have created a leadership vacuum in the party, which Mrs. Clinton viably could fill.

If Democrats lose control of Congress in 2022, Mrs. Clinton can use the party’s loss as a basis to run for president again, enabling her to claim the title of “change candidate.”

Based on her latest public statements, it’s clear that Mrs. Clinton not only recognizes her position as a potential front-runner but also is setting up a process to help her decide whether or not to run for president again. She recently warned of the electoral consequences in the 2022 midterms if the Democratic Party continues to align itself with its progressive wing and urged Democrats to reject far-left positions that isolate key segments of the electorate.

In a recent MSNBC interview, Mrs. Clinton called on Democrats to engage in “careful thinking about what wins elections, and not just in deep-blue districts where a Democrat and a liberal Democrat, or so-called progressive Democrat, is going to win.” She also noted that party’s House majority “comes from people who win in much more difficult districts.”

Mrs. Clinton also took a veiled jab at the Biden administration and congressional Democrats in an effort to create distance: “It means nothing if we don’t have a Congress that will get things done, and we don’t have a White House that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive.”

Even Bill Clinton recently set the stage for his wife’s potential 2024 candidacy, referring to her in an interview with People magazine as “the most qualified person to run for office in my lifetime, including me,” adding that not electing her in 2016 was “one of the most profound mistakes we ever made.”

Democrat’s Best Chance ?!

That article was an op-ed by Douglas E. Schoen and Andrew Stein. They concluder with this hair-raising idea.

If Democrats want a fighting chance at winning the presidency in 2024, Mrs. Clinton is likely their best option,” concluded Schoen and Stein.

Wow. 

As long as we are discussing Fantasyland why not a rematch between Trump and Hillary?

Is this really the best the country can do?

I call it Fantasyland but that matchup is possible, however unlikely.

What is pure Fantasyland is the notion that Hillary can possibly be the Democrat’s best hope. 

Any moderate, non-lightning-rod would have a better chance. How about Krysten Sinema? Tulsi Gabbard? 

Progressives cannot stand Simema, but so what? if Sinema won the nomination, their choice would be to vote Republican, sit the election out, or hold their nose and vote for Sinema. 

The latter is what would happen. 

Fantasies aside, independents and swing voters will determine the election for the third consecutive election.

Nominating a lightning rod loser like Hillary is nothing but another attempt to lose again. 

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KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Any candidate under 60 years old will get my vote. I’m sick of old inside the beltway politicians who present themselves as change when they’re the exact opposite.
Agave
Agave
4 years ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hillary wants to run and explores the option, but I don’t think it will happen. Part of the reason is that after 30 years of constant negative bombardment by the media about her, too many naive voters have been poisoned against her. I think the Dem party realizes this. She is a highly qualified and capable politician and administrator who actually believes in the Constitution, rule of law, and election norms that have enabled our country to exist for 250 years. That is not what wins elections now though. Emotions and whether enough people “like” the candidate now has much more sway than qualifications or capability. It is hard to overcome an image that has been so unfairly tainted over decades. The hatred of her now in too many people seems unmovable by truth and reason.
How anyone could support the narcissistic lifelong criminal and liar trump who engaged in a seditious conspiracy to overturn an absolutely fair election in 2020 is beyond understanding. Not to mention his obstructions of justice and two fully justified impeachments, where only the 2/3 rule requirement and a republican party full of frightened quisling Senators saved his obviously guilty self by fear of his threats to their careers and putting party over truth and country. Probably his unhinged followers’ potential threats to them had an influence as well.
Sinema is now hated by almost all Dems, not just progressives. She is a narcissistic money grabber who has Zero chance of becoming a Dem nominee for president. Anyone who thinks she has a chance, other than herself, has no idea what is really going on within the Democratic party. She and Manchin are seen as traitors for allowing voting rights of primarily minority Dems to be attacked and destroyed by states passing new suppression and nullification laws. It is truly outrageous what these states are doing, and directly targeted at specific Dem voters. Sinema and Manchin are also despised by a majority of Dems for torpedoing the BBB after holding it up for months. Read up on it from more knowledgeable sources if you don’t understand what is happening, from the insider Dem perspecive.
What I think may happen in 2024, assuming Biden doesn’t run, is that somebody like Roy Cooper, moderate governor of North Carolina, or Gov. Andy Beshear of Kentucky, or Lt. Gov. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania may become the Dem candidate. This will cause some dissension within the party, because members of minority groups in the Dem base may feel that Harris is getting pushed aside, especially black voters and some women. Unless Harris gains more personal popularity nationwide though, I don’t think Dems will select her.
Cooper has been successful in North Carolina, a right leaning state, and is pretty well liked as I understand it. Similar with Beshear, where he has a positive approval rating in otherwise quite conservative Kentucky . Fetterman is more progressive, but is a large, tough looking and talking, and charismatic candidate who has the ability to win over the independent and even some trumper style white working class people in swing states with his straight talk, working class appearance, and programs that address some of their needs. He is running for the US Senate in Pennsylvania in 2022 though, so it may be too early for him in 2024. Gov. Beshear of Kentucky is another one who potentially fits the profile of a Dem who could win in these swing states. Stacey Abrams is a likely 2024 VP candidate, if she doesn’t win the Georgia governorship in 2022, IMO.
Dems know that they could easily win the presidency even with a progressive like Bernie or Warren if the election was won by popular vote, like in every other country. They also know that this not being the case, that the electoral college structure is heavily stacked against any Dem candidate who cannot win in the swing and purple states. This is a growing problem, made much worse by some of these states doing every thing they now can to suppress Dem votes, and claiming they can choose their own electors EVEN IF THEY DON’T WIN THE POPULAR VOTE IN THEIR STATE. This is autocratic fascism, people. It is completely undemocratic and against our long held rules and system, and is incredibly dangerous to the future of this country. The January 6th commission is now uncovering how they almost tried that in 2020. Stay tuned for fireworks.
The Progressives’ best chance was 2021 and this year the way I see it, but the way the Senate is stacked in favor of rural conservative areas and the filibuster blockade by R’s, plus Manchin and Sinema stabbing Dems in the back, does not bode well for a comeback by them soon, in my opinion. With all the swing state voter suppression going on, and traitors Manchin and Sinema refusing to protect the absolutely fundamental right to fairness in voting, I don’t see a progressive candidate being able to win those states until the current generation of crusty old white people dies off and the more diverse and progressive younger generation begins voting regularly in larger numbers. That is, if the Rs don’t totally game the system if they win in 2024 so they can’t lose again for decades. That is the potential we are facing. They want an autocracy because they know their numbers are declining and their policies unpopular, and have proved they are willing to go to violent extremes and cheating and lying to get it. There is nothing normal or good about what is going on in this country’s politics, ever since trump opened those floodgates and tried to destroy all the norms that have protected our democracy for centuries, and his party went along with it.
$blankman
$blankman
4 years ago
Reply to  Agave
Nice detailed analysis. Tend to agree.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
….so far, the criminal US powers that be, didn’t have the balls or were not insane enough to trigger WW3….With Billary it would just be a matter of weeks or months…  
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
I’ll go on record and say as long as Trump is in the mix the Democrats have a chance in every race. These districts where the incumbent Republican is deciding not to run because of Trump may swing to the Dems unexpectedly. These states where the election outcome can be changed by the state legislature points to big trouble ahead for voters. 
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
A lot of people have now come to realize that the Trump years were golden, if you look at facts and ignore all the absurd Democrat/media nonsense that went on at the time (the “Russia collusion” fantasy/fiasco, golden showers, drink bleach, the “insurrection” fantasy, etc).
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
The political system isn’t about the best we can do. It is about who controls the power in each party. The Democrats recognize that the bench is empty. The Republicans are increasingly controlled by Trump as more Republicans who won’t support Trump’s big lie resign or announce they aren’t running again.  So the chances of a Clinton v Trump II have have gone up. At least until Trump gets charged with something significant soon.
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
After more than 4 years you’re STILL having those wet dreams about President Trump being charged with some sort of crime?
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
I stand by my longstanding rule of thumb…the Democrats can only nominate their absolute worst candidate. It happens over and over. No reason to suspect that’s  going to change in the next election cycle. Hillary Clinton fits that model perfectly.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I agree. They win despite who they nominate. Not because of who they nominate. Hard to lose when you’ve got the federal government and media on your side.
Jackula
Jackula
4 years ago
Oh gawd! Please no!!!
EGW
EGW
4 years ago
I would rather have Trump again if she ran for President.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  EGW
I don’t think you really want that after Jan 6th. Besides Trump is going to get charged soon with sedition.
hhabana
hhabana
4 years ago
I strongly disagree. Looks like the Democrats had a bunch of “operatives” like Ray Epps and company that played a role in stirring unrest on Jan. 6th. Also, there were a number of capital police that seemed intent on letting the protestors in. Democrats turn a blind eye to their Nazi stormtroopers causing all kinds of havoc in our Democracy. Now our country has become a Banana Republic.
Trump should run and finally end the political career of the Old Hag. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
So, when is he going to be charged?
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
Ummmm…. to be charged with sedition you probably have to ACTUALLY HAVE COMMITTED SEDITION. You should check the law some time.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
Dwayne Elizondo Herbert Mountain Dew Camacho for the win!
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
4 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
chump was the closest to Comacho for sure.    why i loved his reign.   so entertaining.   i really want a trump v clinton crime family rematch.    
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Difference is, Camacho cared about his people, and sought the guidance of the smartest man on earth to help them. Trump just wants morons to worship him…. And let’s not get started on his lack of physical prowess…
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
4 years ago
already wagered with 20/1 odds the clintons gonna win again.   stranger things in world politics have happened. like television game show host beating bush and clinton crime families like red headed step children.      hillary running is actually standard poltical history stuff.   hell biden has been running for president since he was in his 20s.      
caradoc-again
caradoc-again
4 years ago
Do the likes of Clinton not hear or just not understand.
No one wants them.
Competence is needed, not some old hack has-been with an ego the size of a planet.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
This is finest, heirloom crack for the conspiratards. Will maker for the kookiest election ever.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
I saw an article recently that Michelle Obama might consider.
HC vs MO in primaries?
winner vs DJT?
Wow.  There is not a hole deep enough for me
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Yeah there really needs to be a rule in place that once you’ve successfully run for President that no other immediate member of your family (spouse, kids) can do so.
We’d have been spared Dubya and Hilary/Jeb runs and now potentially Michelle or Trump’s wife/kids.
We need fresh blood in the presidency.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
People seemed hardwired to seek a hereditary monarchy. The trumphumpers were rapturously anticipating presidents Ivanka and “I’m Eric” and on down the line for 1000 years.
Stupid can’t be stopped.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
but but what happened to  “Lock Her Up” ?? …
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Turns out “nobody likes her” wasn’t sufficient for a conviction.
hhabana
hhabana
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
No prison would take her. 
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
Hillary should run for NY governor or Congress 2022 if she really wanted to go for POTUS 2024. She’s been out of government service for 6 years. If she were out of government service for 8 years she would appear to be too politically stale as a presidential candidate.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
AOC! AOC! AOC!
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
i payed 5 on hillary to pay 100 just for D nomination.   almost doubled my money already.   i also have AOC for pennies.    be fun if either won.     panem et circenses forever.   
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Isn’t AOC too young to run for president?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Four more/new years for the guy who beat her last time, I suppose….
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
Isn’t Trump entitled to a ‘do over’ after Russiagate effectively limited his first term. So 12 years, plenty of time to flush the DC toilet.
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

… and a kiss for his ego boo boo, a chocolate bar, and a bedtime story.

StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
As long as the Dems keep reanimating and propping up Hillary (when’s poor Chelsea going to get a crack at it…?); and Americans insist on flaunting their collective indoctrination and illiteracy, by not voting for Ron Paul dead-or-alive-running-or-not; there’s no telling how long ol’e Trumpo can remain camped out at the White House, with America’s remains crumbling around him.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Sure, why not? Joe was just the “moderate” mask on a far-left program and since he is too far gone to run again, having Hillary to be another “moderate” mask on a far-left program fits the bill at least in the minds of Democrat strategists from whence this absurdity sprang. How do you say “clutching at straws” in Democrat speech? 
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
4 years ago
Isn’t this Hillary click-bait confined to the Republican media? If so, let’s go to MSNBC to hear what Republicans are considering.
Anyway, in 2000-ish when Hillary started her public campaign for president, it was apparent she’d never get there. Presidential candidates all have, ah, comfort with power. But must hide it. “If called, I must bow to the will of the people. … Who call for … leadership, strong leadership.”
killben
killben
4 years ago
My choice has been – Tulsi Gabbard. She talks a lot of sense but finds no appeal. May be you get the President you deserve if you cannot listen to sensible messages
Zardoz
Zardoz
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
Kooky people demand kooky government.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
4 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
BINGO.  WE HAVE A WINNER.    democracy works.   aholes elect aholes.   always has been this way.  modern pax dumbfu*&istan is about 95% aholes.    only 2% don’t vote D or R.  
Greggg
Greggg
4 years ago
Thanks for the tip  Mish.   I’ll look over the broom manufacturers choices.  Money pouring in and nowhere to go until now.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
“Progressives cannot stand Sinema …”  
Well, the progressives can’t stand Clinton either.   Both are right-wingers.   Clinton had a hand in NAFTA, 1994 crime bill,  bank deregulation, Iraq war, stripping students of bankruptcy protection, called the TPP a “gold standard” trade deal – to name just a few right-wing policies of hers. She is also the one who essentially promised that single-payer health care will “never ever come to pass”.
The only difference is that Sinema is the current designated “rotating villain”, along with Manchin, and is intended to take all the heat, so other right-wing DONORcrats like  Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton et al can rest easy.   
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
I’m curious about that Gabbard tweet, wtf is she talking about?
hhabana
hhabana
4 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
I will explain it since you are smoking too much weed and are a dope. The filibuster is a great idea. It keeps Democrats and Republicans from abusing their majority in the Senate. It would be the equivalent of erasing the electoral college. It forces compromise which the AOC’s and her Squad as well as assorted goofball psychotics in the Democratic Party from destroying the country. 
BTW, I’m not shilling for the Republicans. I’m an Independent. 
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
Oh please no.
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
4 years ago
If Hillary was a Republican, she’d be in jail.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
I’d be upset if I thought she had a chance at winning, and minus the Dem COVID policy of the last year, she might.
She’s now part of a Party that’s going to lose big in 2022 and 2024, so it’ll be low-stress and entertaining to watch her lose again.  Run Hillary Run!
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
The REMATCH!  In the blue corner at 76 years of age – HILLARY CLINTON!  And in the red corner at 78 years old, DONALD J. TRUMP!  Yes folks we have the rematch on pay per view only.  Another septuagenarian battle of has beens for president of the USA!   Step right up.  Cast your votes here.
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Please no… If not DeSantis, then some other governor please step up for the GOP. Trump is a dead end.
Greggg
Greggg
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Hunter Biben’s dad was DOA from he beginning.

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