Chant of the Day
‘Every city, every town, burn the precinct to the ground!’
The Portland ICE facility is currently on fire #PortlandProtests pic.twitter.com/4IrGp4UioR
— Grace Morgan (@MorganNYC) April 11, 2021
Munitions fired by federal agents outside the Portland ICE facility #PortlandProtest pic.twitter.com/nydmzphH9S
— Grace Morgan (@MorganNYC) April 11, 2021
Antifa rioters in Portland, Oregon, set a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement building on fire while agents remained trapped behind blocked doors. https://t.co/E1EjELYEfH
— Breitbart News (@BreitbartNews) April 11, 2021
Silence
- Washington Post: No Coverage
- New York Times: No Coverage
- CNN: No Coverage
By no coverage I did a search for “Portland ICE building set on fire” and the only coverage was from the Right.
The fire was extinguished but imagine the global media coverage had Trump supporters done anything similar.
Epic Hypocrisy
The right is very correct to ask where the mainstream media and establishment Democrats are in terms were in denouncing these episodes of violent civil disorder.
Not only was the media silent, where was Biden?
Politicians on the left are either silent or call them “peaceful.”
This incident is peanuts compared to Capital riots. But the continual hypocrisy is epic.
Mish
No wonder the trust in big media outlets are dropping so dramatically, makes sites like this one more and and more important! link to hobartbookkeepers.com
Tired of the excuses for all of this. Who wants to live with this crap going on day after day. Artifacts needs to grow up, get a life and do something good with it. Tearing down the country will make things worse!
People will take these kinds of things largely dependent on their preconceived notions about what is going on. The thing at issue is that the mainstream media is overwhelmingly left wing – they tend to dismiss leftist riots as peaceful protests or make progressive ideological excuses for that behavior while at the same time using loaded terms like ‘armed insurrection’ when the other side does something.
Mish Antifa has been going at it in Portland for some months. Now from the images, I found on the web, the extent of the fire was a bunch of pallets in front of the building. Don’t want to get too involved, but really that’s not setting a building on fire. It’s setting a bunch of pallets on fire in front of a building. Personally, I don’t approve and I suspect that the violence in Portland has been endemic for some time — hence the lack of interest. But really saying that a “dumpster fire” is the same as invading the Capitol is really a very very false equivalency.
I suspect that the NYT and the WP both saw the news and dismissed it as newsworthy if you consider the damage (none) to the ICE building. BTW why is there an ICE building in Portland, they concerned about Canadians overstaying their welcome? What the heck
As for FOX and friends, they will inflate any none issue to make their usual point
Pallets, not building.
So, I failed to get my money’s worth from my membership in https://www.antifa.org
Why Portland?
…And yet, as many within and without the city have begun realizing, Portland is a town leavened with a history of rampant racial strife. As the whitest major American city, Portland blossomed in the lone state that constitutionally barred blacks from living there through the 19th century, that acted as one of the primary concentration centers for incarcerating American citizens of Japanese ancestry during World War II, that redlined as severely as any major metropolis elsewhere. That in 1922 saw its chief of police posing alongside hooded Ku Klux Klan members. That brought Jim Crow to the Pacific shoreline.
It’s the type of legal legacy, the type of nod-and-wink encouragement of white supremacy, that not only welcomed any number of Confederate families to relocate to the region in the aftermath of the Civil War, but that, toward the close of the 20th century, saw neo-Nazi and skinhead groups begin to extend their tendrils through the area. Before “Portlandia,” there was “Skinhead City.” In the mid-1980s, skinheads began marching through downtown, hauling bats, pipes and axes. Not long after, the city birthed Volksfront, a neo-Nazi contingent that eventually expanded internationally. In 1988, a trio of skinheads bashed Mulugeta Seraw, an Ethiopian student, to death; the three all received prison sentences, with one tabbed as a “prisoner of war” by other white supremacy groups.
Locals began pushing back. In 2007, a group called Rose City Antifa took form, borrowing the shortened form of “antifascist” for its name. The crew pointed to similar European movements, which had, in places like Germany and Italy, arisen in response to the fascist movements that would eventually crater Europe in World War II. It also tapped into regional currents of anarchism and latent communism. These were the political strains that had sparked, among other things, the 1999 “Battle of Seattle” protests against the World Trade Organization, which resulted in millions of dollars’ worth of property damage in the city.
From its inception, Portland’s antifa contingent cloaked itself in anonymity; as a 2009 story in Portland’s Willamette Week noted, “Little is known publicly about Rose City Antifa.” And little seems to have changed in the decade since. Its unofficial uniform comprises blood-red and black bandanas and hoods, but the group doesn’t keep any official membership rolls, let alone share last names with anyone outside of its circle. “Why do we wear masks? Because [of] instances of antifa people [who] have been assassinated,” says David, a member of Rose City Antifa who, like all group members before him, declined to share his last name with POLITICO Magazine. The historical examples are not recent, but they are well-known in the group: Skinheads murdered a pair of anti-racist activists in Nevada in 1998, luring them to the desert outside Las Vegas, and local antifa have claimed that a 2010 incident in Portland—a shooting that left a self-described anti-racist skinhead in critical condition—was also politically motivated.
For much of its existence, the group largely relied on shout-downs and public displays of force as their primary tactics. Recently they’ve added the cyber weapon of doxxing—exposing personal information such as addresses, places of employment, and dates of birth and schools, even if it means innocent families mistakenly targeted by antifa begin receiving threats. Such tactics have been “effective because they raise the cost of participation,” Stanislav Vysotsky, who researches political extremism with the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, told POLITICO Magazine.
But now, for antifa, it’s not enough to simply outscream their opposition; rather, those far-right forces must, in a bizarre nod to the Bush Doctrine, be preemptively denied a voice from the outset. “We are unapologetic about the reality that fighting fascism at points requires physical militancy,” Rose City Antifa’s Facebook page reads. “Anti-fascism is, by nature, a form of self-defense: the goal of fascism is to exterminate the vast majority of human beings.” The group does not specify what physical militancy means, but their page makes clear that the definition includes “any means necessary.”
Skinhead neo-Nazis and Antifa are the flip sides of the same coin. Violence begets violence.
Sure, but what is the proper response to neo-Nazi organizations?
By the time you have such organizations in ascendency, the proper response, which is good education, won’t work. It’s just too late.
But also…….I think most hate groups will die on the vine, unless there is a continual social narrative that drives people into that kind of herd. People are herd animals, unfortunately.
I think the Klan was de-fanged by lawsuits and peaceful protests. I saw it happen personally over a period of years, and that’s probably the best way to deal with any really organized group.
Antifa, being more of a mind-set than a really organized group, is troubling to me….like a new variant of a known disease, sort of…..
It IS hard to make it anymore for working people in this country. That is a real thing. We have an awful lot of drivers for cognitive dissonance and disaffection from the narratives being pushed by the mainstream.
Whether we like it or not, in many ways the pie is going to get smaller now, not bigger. We won’t see another post-WWII boom again in our economy, ever…..and unfortunately we educate people for that kid of world….where anybody who can draw a breath gets a good paying job. Those times are over for good, and how we deal with that reality has a lot to do with whether we have more misfits who find a place for themselves in some kind of hate group.
Frankly, the destruction to ordinary businesses who have done nothing to get their windows broken and their goods looted bothers me a lot more than burning some pallets in from of a government building….but I think Antifa has done plenty of damage in Portland, regardless of this particular episode.
….continual social narrative that drives people into that kind of herd….
hmmm, have you heard of a recent president with the initials of DJT??
….continual social narrative that drives people into that kind of herd….
or heard the drumbeats on right wing media??
Of course that’s part of it. You could probably take many of the same demographic, the same people, and they might join the right-winger herd or the left-winger herd, just depending on where they get their axe ground on social media.
Social media reinforces herd behavior, and people generally will sort themselves into some group or other. It’s rare not to do this, and imho a sign of intelligence.
The medium is the message, as someone fairly bright said when I was just a kid.
I think that there should not be responses to organizations, but responses to illegal actions by them or by persons. I believed that this was the american system.
Antifa’s roots are in communist organisations from the 1920’s and 1930’s and it is a communist group now. In Germany disappointed ex-communists were the most numerous recruits to the Nazi Party. They found it easy to switch one fascism for another because they both have the same mindset.
You might want to try to understand that the penalties incurred for being a communist in Nazi Germany “incentivized” a rapid change of political alignment. Besides every one likes to side with the winning one.
Those penalties were enforced enthusiastically by ex-communists in the Nazi Party. Same mindset.
Don’t forget the French influence too. Jacques Derrida is a favorite of these people.
I think Antifa and in fact the entire bogus social justice movement gets a huge influence from the American communist Saul Alinsky. Also the Frankfurt School, which was so heavily influenced by postmodernism, which permeates the current bad thinking in the American academic community. This is not well understood by young people, even on a forum like this one.
Portland has been policed by the Gypsy Joker motorcycle club for quite an extended period to add some additional perspective to@NJBR’s post. The disastrous result of the endless turmoil has been cops leaving the force in droves. A combination of naive and/or idealistic political posturing by ‘leadership’, huge downside and risk for LE and little upside recognition attempting to interact with a community that is hyper sensitive to racial issues that has been whipped into a frenzy by race hustlers with their own agendas.
It was a couple of pallets burning, the local news covered it. Not really interesting enough to be a national story.
I’m surprised Fox didn’t make it an armageddon headline… guess they must have had plenty of rage/fear fuel for that day.
The violence in Portland has been studiously ignored by the MSM for a year or more. All the apologia in the world doesn’t make it right, and Portland has definitely jumped the shark as a livable city. All I can say is that TPTB in Portland brought it on themselves by caving in to left leaning political groups and looking the other way for years before it got to this point.
It has nothing to do with Trump, although Trump handled it poorly on his watch, like he did everything else. It has everything to do with a strong anti-capitalist narrative being promoted among young whites throughout the North West.
I wonder if they can’t monetize it, because it’s just repetition.
The hyperbole from the left regarding the capital riots knows no bounds. They have one thing to point at and they make it sound like the fall of Saigon when in reality it was just a few broken windows and some trespassers. Contrary to what the left believes, no protestor killed a single person. Nothing was burned down or looted. Contrary to what happened countless times at BLM protests.
A bunch of Neo-hippies trying to burn down a building in Portland vs a bunch of morons trying to overthrow the government of the USA and install a hereditary dictatorship of morons?
Yeah, there’s a bit of a scale difference there.
Trying to overthrow the government? A perfect example of hyperbole.
They were just there to beat up some cops (and kill one), break some windows out of the capitol, steal some stuff, smear some shit on the walls, smear some blood on the statues, take some selfies, and hang Mike Pence.
Just a few excitable boys up to harmless hijinks.
Her name was Ashli Babbitt.
What cop did they kill?
So this was organized like by Oath Keepers? And your source is Breitbart? Seems like you’re jealous of Newsmax’s success. Posts like this give me an eye roll
Fox News teaches that if you want to up engagement on your site, nothing works better than hysterical outrage.
I’m not sure becaue I don’t watch all that often but I could sware they’ve gotten wore ove the past several years
They invented it 30 years ago, and now all the stations do it. They gotta up their game to compete. Adrenaline junkies are very sensitive to relative outrage values.
Exactly how I felt after. Mish is after the clicks these days. Not surprised there are more posts like this since being purchased by the Street.com
Who reads the New York Times and the Washington Post anymore? Who watches CNN? CNN is a fraction of what it was two decades ago and the two newspapers keep giving away subscriptions for 50 cents a week and their readership is still very modest. Internationally their reputations for excellence are gone.
So watch Fox with the other lackwits?
“Who reads the New York Times and the Washington Post anymore?”
My wife, of course. lol.
Lol. My wife doesn’t anymore. I dropped them six years ago. She dropped them after the Mueller Report.
A wise man once said that if you know nothing and say nothing then you are wise. If you are unsure and say nothing you are still wise. If you are sure and you still say nothing then you are married.
Only for the low-information, non-college educated.
What about the black former NFL player Phillip Adams, who killed a doctor, his wife and their two young grandchildren (all white) last wednesday, and killed himself after that ?
I have seen only a few reports about that, with nowhere the words “racist” or “hate crime”.
What would have been the media coverage if the player was white and the victims black ?
Crickets. White lives don’t matter. It’s taboo to talk about Black crime.
Also, nobody gives a dang about Blacks killing Blacks especially the Virtue Warriors here on Mish’s site. Again, crickets.
The only problem is he played in the NFL, was off his medications and likely did this because he had CTE. Many former NFL players have done this kind of thing and all have one thing in common. They have traumatic brain damage from playing football from a young age.
The trail isn’t over yet, but I guess BLM couldn’t contain themselves tonight in Minneapolis.
Hey, are you really not aware that that story is from August 2020?
But… OUTRAGE! FEAR! THE BLACKS ARE COMING TO KILL US ALL!
August 27, 2020 at 6:27 pm
One thing about the east coast media you refer to as biased. I agree. They are regionally biased. Had what’s been happening in Portland for years happen on an east coast city there would have been way more coverage. The reason there was coverage during the Trump admin is because Trump sent unmarked federal vehicles who picked up people without cause like the Gestapo. So Trump caused that coverage and brought it on himself. Trump always did things this way. It turns out how you govern and treat people really does matter. Credibility is the foundation of leadership. Blame the media if you want but they are really just a small part of what was the problem during the Trump admin. Fox can cover what they want but it’s like screaming fire in a theater everyday at fox.
Yeah, Trump is the reason there were 507 documented riots, causing 25ish deaths and $2bn of property damage last year. I cannot fathom how anyone can not conclude that the impact of BLM/antifa violence was not downplayed and the actual threat posed by the (execrable) Capital riots and “white supremacist violence” is not overplayed in the media to this day.
Don’t need the media on this. Just look to the resources the FBI is dedicating and the statements by the FBI. The FBI is largely apolitical too. And there’s hours of video footage taken by thoe that stormed the capitol themselves.
“screaming fire in a theater everyday at fox”
Fox is a drug dealer. They sell cortisol and adrenaline with an endless stream of outrage and fear. Cortisol causes brain damage long term, and after 30 years of Fox News, the damage is readily apparent in the viewers.
Agree, but that’s also true for MSNBC and somewhat true for CNN.
One more thing. Your false equivalency is on display here. You equated Trump supporters doing this to Antifa somehow being in the media’s corner. Let’s be honest. Trump was a president that used groups on the right (equivalent to Antifa) to try and overthrow a government. The reason Trump got the coverage he did is because he fomented violence as a sitting president. That will and is a much bigger story than Antifa burning some wood outside an ICE building.
Spoken like a true Antifa cultist.
But I voted for Trump in 2016. Does that mean Trump supporters could be Antifa ?
Only if you’re a secret false flag operator on Lord Soro’s payroll. Or a lizard person. I challenge you to prove to us that you are not a Lizard Person.
That is something you would say since you think all who voted trump are Nazis which shows you are Antifa communist.
If you think Trump is wrong, then wait for MS-13 in millions of illegal immigrants and terrorists enter US. Next, wait until many more cities in fire and no seen of FBI as they are busy to investigate few hundred protesters on Jan 6.
Good luck when MS-13, and Middle-East terrorists join forces with antifa, BLM to destroy US.
Yes there was a lot of violence and destruction by ANTIFA and BLM groups under Trump- a few months before the election- it was not generally reported however, and Trump certainly did not support it or foment it- as the democrats did. After the election, it slowed down a little as ‘their’ man took office, but now it seems to be picking up speed again since Biden has not done enough for them. I blame the violence entirely on the Democrats and the disgustingly biased media that supports them.
“Let’s be honest. Trump was a president that used groups on the right (equivalent to Antifa) to try and overthrow a government.” ….. first, a Marxist who says “let’s be honest” is pathetic when their whole operational ideology is “ any means to our ends” ..lying, cheating, criminal and moral destruction is all “ fair game”…as long as you ends are achieved. The idea that President Trump, who faced every illegal , political and social attempt to overthrow his policy ,rounded up his “army” is just sad propaganda…the public saw Obama’s “Red Gaurd” of ANTIFa a day BLM doing far more killing, destruction, burning, looting on CITEZENs…..the capital? Someone crapped in the hall and a few thing got broken….while Palosi had the police stand down ( and hold the doors open)…. it’s ok…people SEE past your political BS….but keep trying…the counter revolution against ANTIFA and the Left began the moment we saw the hypocrisy, censorship and the Elite wo ate backing up your movment for a totalitarian Corporate World Communism…
From reading online you miss some critical aspects of the story:
Once again you and others on the right have turned to what about ism and false equivalency. Until Trump a US president was assumed to not support these violent groups. Because Trump supported an insurrection on the US capitol doesnt mean every other President after him is for violence just because he doesnt say anything. Biden has zero tolerance for this crap and people know it.
‘Biden has zero tolerance for this crap and people know it.’
Speaking as a registered Democrat I’d suggest the DNC/Obama/Clinton factions are running the government: Biden is their scripted spokesperson rather than a decision maker.
Regarding the endless violent protests in the pacific northwest, the bulk of the participants appear to be white, a rainbow coalition of anarchists, quasi socialists, agent provocateurs and disaffected homeless opportunists.
Yeah and its been that way in Portland for over 2 decades. This is why it’s a non-story. It is sheer lunacy to think somehow one person is the decision maker in government. We dont live in a autocratic country. Thankfully that was prevented through a free and fair election.
I would love to wear a pair of rose-colored spectacles like yours. The media has been extremely biased about all acts of destruction and violence since months before the election. Countless break-ins, fights and even killings by ANTIFA and BLM supporters have been ignored, but every infraction by whitey has been reported. The Biden administration has set the tone for this and it will only get worse during their tenure. This country is being destroyed from within.
Fear! Alarm! Terror! Be afraid!
You clearly have no knowledge of what’s been going on in Portland for well over a decade. This isn’t something that started recently.
The country only started getting destroyed from within under Trump. I will go out on a limb and predict it won’t get destroyed because Trump is an arsonist whose power is waning. The federal government will handle it instead of politicizing it like they did before Trump. You can try to lube Biden with your horniness for Trump but it won’t work. There is no “tone” being set. Biden is somewhere in the middle and most sane people can see this.
Sleepy Joe is GREAT ! ….and WOKE !
Your assertions are laughable if they weren’t so dangerous Marxist – “NWO” Propaganda. Keep convincing yourself and others the Capital protest ( mounted and actively used by ANTIFA and Democrats Politicians) No sense supplying the proof that investigations revealed. But keep your “ up side down” clown world rolling…your frauds and fakes…supported and paid by the very Corporation’s, Elites, and Tyrants you claim to be against. ….hilarious…can’t wait for you to all be under the boot of TRUE totalitarian oppression your are going to get …like every other World Bank funded Marxist takeover…check back 20 years later and let us know how it worked out for your “Communist Utopia”
Just wait until Chauvin walks.
and just in from scenic Minneapolis:
Updated 3 mins ago – Axios Twin Cities
Protests erupt after police shoot Black driver near Minneapolis
I’d really love to know who is directing these riots. Looks centralized as hell.
Oh goody! ANOTHER Conspiracy!
The whole thing is being run out of the basement of Pedo Pizza Kitchen, by the dark minions of Lord Soros! It’s the only explanation that makes sense! Study it out!
After 27M rewarded to George Floyd’s family, you should expect few more black death to collect bigger awards!
You think Chauvin will walk? I don’t. I think he’s probably guilty of manslaughter, but he stands a very good chance at this point of going down for 3rd degree murder, and a 2nd degree murder conviction is not out of the question….although I’d argue there is no way he’s really guilty of that.
The video turned almost everyone against him….the evidence is lacking, but even the medical examiner says Chauvin killed him.
I expect fires and looting no matter what the outcome, though.
I’m with Eddie. I think he gets Man 3 because they knew there is no way he’s getting Man 2. That’s why they added Man 3 back in because they knew that to come away with no guilty verdict at all would have been a very bad look.
The real question is with Man 3, how much time. I suspect it’s a 2 year sentence type thing (as opposed to the max 20 years or whatever it is). Of course there will be appeals regardless of what happens. And yeah, riots too of course.
This is of course peanuts compared to Capital riots. But the hypocrisy is clear.
You are not this dumb Mish. You’ve been dragged into Trump-level thinking by those Trump supporters . Time to get out of the sewers of the internet and get back to normalcy.
this is just silly season now
That’s nuts.
People rioting and setting fire to a building absolutely is newsworthy.
Just because the capital riots were MORE newsworthy doesn’t mean this one isn’t.
The silence on these types of things is absolutely deafening and politically motivated.
Mish is right to point out the media hypocrisy.
Well, it’s world news, and there’s a lot going on now. Mynamar is slaughtering people, China, Vietnam, Philippines and the US have their navies chest thumping in the China sea, and covid is getting out of control again. There’s not much shelf space for a small bonfire in Portland where they’ve been having bonfires for the past couple years. Nobody hurt… it didn’t bleed so it didn’t lead.
They do that every month in Portland and have been for a long time. The reason it isn’t covered is because its Portland.
There were not that many in the riot at the Capitol. Seems really funny to me that all the tools of the FBI were used to find a few people to charge in DC, and the other 27 riots in the US with billions in damages and shattered lives… CrIcKeTs.
FBI isnt done with federal or state.
Their silence has been deafening for 11 months. I take that as tacit approval.
Still think the insurrection at the federal capitol is more important 3 months later. Why is there an ICE building in Portland Oregon anyway ? It isnt like there are hoards of illegal immigrants there or anywhere in the pacific northwest for that matter. The closest border is wait for it…..Canada !
You are clearly not informed.
The PNW has huge numbers of migrants there due to work in potato\wheat fields that are abundant in the PNW.
Illegal immigration is a massive problem there.
I am in the PNW. I haven’t seen a Mexican in 6 months.
What city?
I grew up in Idaho.
Half the population of every city around me is Mexican.
Most of the incoming illegals are not Mexicans anymore, btw.
Which cities? I get out there fairly often and see nothing but white people.
They concentrate in the poor areas where someone like you would not live in or visit.
Which towns in Idaho was the question. Even the place I do visit in Idaho are on the knife edge of dilapidation. So many junk farms…
I’m from Idaho Falls (in NC now but I visit Idaho often).
I grew up working on farms. I still know those people. My brother in law was an illegal from Mexico. All his brothers also lived with him and were illegal.
They lived in trailer parks (often 20 to a home, a double wide, can you imagine) and were very grateful to be here.
You will not see them in downtown Portland or Seattle rioting. They are too busy working. Every hispanic from Mexico or Central America that I have had the pleasure of knowing is among the hardest working, most industrious people I have ever known.
They are here in very large numbers, but they are invisible to most.
Even here in NC you rarely see them, yet there are thousands in my 100k population county. THey are invisible because most farmers house them in trailer parks that they own, provide food, shelter and transportation for them to Walmart.
ON weekend, you will see large numbers of buses filled with migrants at Walmart. That is often the only time you see them.
It reminds me almost of plantation work, almost.
They aren’t in the cities. They are in rural America, which is most of America.
if you live in a large city, well, you won’t see them.
Oh, yes ICE should move south to wait for MS-13 who cross border,
and they will run the gangs in LA soon!
You will get excited when MS-13 start to show force in LA, but will not see until newspapers can not hide any more! Look for black gangs to move out LA to know!
There are not too many places in the US that don’t not have significant numbers of illegal aliens.