Dear Trump Supporters I have Questions
- Did Trump repeal and replace Obamacare with something much better and cheaper?
- Did Mexico pay for the wall?
- Did Trump balance the budget?
- Did Trump bring home the troops in Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq?
- Did Trump eliminate the trade deficit?
- Did USMCA improve upon NAFTA?
- Did Trump improve upon TTP?
- Did Trump label China a currency manipulator?
- Did Trump rebuild the country’s infrastructure?
- Was Trump phenomenal for women?
- Has Trump done more for the African American community than any other president since Abraham Lincoln?
- Did Trump drain the swamp?
- Did Trump’s tariffs bring back manufacturing jobs?
- On 4/14/2011 Trump said “I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge.” Did he?
Greatest Trump Quotes
- On Border Control
: “I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.” Campaign launch rally, 6/15/2015 - On Immigration: “We’re rounding ’em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way. And they’re going to be happy because they want to be legalized. And, by the way, I know it doesn’t sound nice. But not everything is nice.”
- On Helping Women
: “I will be phenomenal to the women. I mean, I want to help women.” Face the Nation, 8/9/2015 - Abortion Q&A: “Do you believe in punishment for abortion – yes or no – as a principle?” “The answer is there has to be some form of punishment.” “For the woman?” “Yeah, there has to be some form.” MSNBC, 03/30/2016
- On Gay Marriage: “It’s like in golf… A lot of people – I don’t want this to sound trivial – but a lot of people are switching to these really long putters, very unattractive… it’s weird. You see these great players with these really long putters, because they can’t sink three-footers anymore. And, I hate it. I am a traditionalist. I have so many fabulous friends who happen to be gay, but I am a traditionalist.” New York Times, 5/1/2011
- On Race
: “I have a great relationship with African Americans, as you possibly have heard. I just have great respect for them. And they like me. I like them.” Anderson Cooper 360, 7/23/2015 - On Global Warming
: “The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” Twitter, 10/06/2012 - On Fighting Terrorism
: “When you see the other side chopping off heads, waterboarding doesn’t sound very severe.” This Week with George Stephanopoulos, 08/02/2016 - On Political Correctness
: “I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I’ve been challenged by so many people and I don’t, frankly, have time for total political correctness.” Fox News Republican debate, 08/06/2015 - On Why People Would Vote For Him
: “To be blunt, people would vote for me. They just would. Why? Maybe because I’m so good looking.” New York Times, 09/19/1999 - On Making America Great Again
: “The line of ‘Make America great again,’ the phrase, that was mine, I came up with it about a year ago, and I kept using it, and everybody’s using it, they are all loving it. I don’t know, I guess I should copyright it, maybe I have copyrighted it.” MyFox New York, March 2015 (“Let’s Make America Great Again” was one of Ronald Reagan’s most well-known campaign slogans) - On Hillary Clinton
: “If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?” Twitter, 04/16/2016 - On Rand Paul
: “I never attacked him on his looks, and believe me, there’s plenty of subject matter right there.” CNN Republican debate, 09/16/2015 - On Why He’s The Right Candidate: “I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me. I’m the most successful person ever to run. Ross Perot isn’t successful like me. Romney – I have a Gucci store that’s worth more than Romney.” Des Moines Register, 06/02/2015
- On Arianna Huffington
: @arianahuff is unattractive both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.” Twitter, 08/28/2012 - On Women In Hollywood
: “While @BetteMidler is an extremely unattractive woman, I refuse to say that because I always insist on being politically correct.” Twitter, 10/28/2012 - On Muslims
: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.” 12/07/2015 - On Sharing His Financial Success: “I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge.” TIME, 04/14/2011
- On His Intelligence
: “Sorry losers and haters, but my IQ is one of the highest – and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.” Twitter, 05/09/2013 - On Romance
: “All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.” Trump: How To Get Rich, 2004 - On Family
: “She does have a very nice figure… If [Ivanka] weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”The View, 2006 - On Borrowing: “As a kid, I was making a building with blocks in our playroom. I didn’t have enough. So I asked my younger brother Robert if I could borrow some of his. He said, ‘Okay, but you have to give them back when you’re done.’ I used all of my blocks, then all of his blocks, and when I was done I had a great building, which I then glued together. Robert never did get those blocks back.” Esquire, January 2004
- On His Body
: “My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.” New York Post, 2011 - On Breastfeeding Mothers
: “You’re disgusting.” New York Times, 07/28/2015 - On Taking Inspiration From Other Leaders
: “[Kim Jong-Un] speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.” Fox & Friends, 06/15/2018 - On Health Care
: “Nobody knew health care could be so complicated.” Washington Post, 02/27/2017
The above are courtesy of the ShortList 75 most ridiculous Trump quotes.
Mish
Well, at least, Trump never referred to the infamous Colonel Cassad as a reliable source for the truth on Russian machinations in Ukraine.
Obama’s main achievement was not health care.
I have commented on this numerous times. Obama worked out a great deal with Iran and Trump wrecked it.
All of our allies, even top US military said Iran was honoring the terms.
Good point and was the big cash sent over to Iran have anything to do with this?
His worse achievement was Obama care, not necessarily the law itself but, he bypassed all Republicans to pass this legislation and it officially started the war that has divided the country much more than Trump. Since then there has been essentially no bipartisanship. He did not not start this conflict but he put the final nail in the coffin. We may not recover.
“…officially started the war that has divided the country much more…”
This is utter garbage. That war has been ongoing, but if you want a point where bipartisanship failed, you need to go back at least to Gingrich and company, if not to the end of the Reagan years.
I voted for my Golden Retriever in 2016 since my Presidential vote does not count in MA. However, Manufacturing jobs started coming back in 2010, with 500K added since Trump has been in office, with all gains wiped out w/C19 (August 2014 levels):
Neither Party will balance the budget. Unending wars will continue no matter who is in office because CONgress continues to FUND it via NDAA.
In both Party’s cases, lobbyists pay Congress Members quarterly dues, with the expectation that they will vote the way they want. Those dues increase based on the position they hold.
In any event, neither side will solve anything or make your life better. For 2A proponents, when/if Amy is seated, you no longer have to worry which way Roberts will vote – which is a great thing as anti-liberty state AG’s like mine will no longer rule by edict.
Thanks to Trump, and the lack of safety precautions, Amy may not even be voted on due to Covid infecting at least two Republican Senators, both on the Judiciary Committee.
I am not a Trump supporter. My only hope is that Trump keeps the main politicians from doing much but fight against him. The less the government gets done the better. Biden will just be a sock puppet for all the great government plans.
If they would go after the corrupt bankers, it would be even better. But neither side will do that.
The doctors and administration are not being straight here but it appears Trump knew he was infected on Wednesday , took a monoclonal antibody treatment on Thursday and decided to hop on a plane to Bedminster to meet donors. This is beyond irresponsible, its criminal.
Mish you should run, get elected, then fight the idiots in congress and the press and the idiot leftists to get your agenda completed. He certainly is flawed, as we all are, but much better than Biden.
I am not gonna vote this time again. too much indecision from my part. I leave that to the more opinionated.
Mish, can you please create a question and answers list like this for all prior presidents? I am unfamiliar with each politician’s record, the only thing I do know is that I am 43 years old and from the time I could understand the human language, my men relatives said all politicians are liars and crooks, which is the category I put Trump in. Biden is also is in that category, but he has am asterisk beside his name, which means he’s a puppet that has no real remaining cognitive ability and even if he makes it four years, he’ll be a puppet for the darkness the democratic party displays regularly.
I don’t have time and those past elections are over. This one is now,
You could probably use the same list slightly modified. You might want to go the other way make a list of what the presidents Did do that they said they would.
This would be a much shorter list for all!
Most of those endeavors are the responsibility of Congress. Trump shows the direction, which is often opposed. The famous McCain vote is a fine example. Is there another direction you prefer, or someone better to push in the direction pointed out by Trump?
The real reason Mish is against Trump, is simple, he is standing in the way of the globalists. Mish and the Democrats are in the pockets of China and the globalists who want to dissolve America and integrate it into a one world dictatorship run by the worlds elite.
It is amazing Trump was able to accomplish anything considering he has been defending himself from constant government orchestrated attacks since before he took office. Mish and the Democrats do not believe in our republic, they believe in fascism based on domestic terrorism and violence.
How many articles has Mish done condemning the domestic terrorism we see on our streets? None. Why? Because he supports the violent fascist take over of America by the left. It is only when America is brought to its knees by the Socialists that they will agree to surrender to the globalists.
This election is not about any of the issues Mish stated, it is about our very survival as a sovereign country.
Why won’t you make up the same list of questions and gaffes for Biden supporters? Is the list too long or can’t they read?
If you seriously believe this kind sir, I have a bridge in beautiful New York City that I would like to sell you at at a very reasonable price.
Mish, I seem to recall that you were pro Trump once upon a time , that being said, let me answer your questions with some other questions : What were Obama’s merits apart from Obamacare?( was it a merit?) What did Obama do for the country during his presidency (8 years) apart from starting a couple of other wars and/or problems in the Middel East? Would Hillary, apart from triggering some more geopolitical conflicts, have done better? Unlike Trump she would ve been ‘politically correct of course, like her mocking, ‘we came we saw and Khadaffi died’ ( beaten, sodomised and murdered she forgot to add). How will Biden do apart from executing Deep State politicies ? …..but Trump is a unpleasant egotistical jerk, I agree on that one !
Obama’s main achievement was not health care.
I have commented on this numerous times. Obama worked out a great deal with Iran and Trump wrecked it.
All of our allies, even top US military said Iran was honoring the terms.
Pulling back 30+ years of the war machine ‘trumps’ everything else. It’s ok though, Mish, I know you don’t have a twenty year old son.
The American People should hang their heads in shame for the 90%+ approval rating for war criminals Bush I, Bush II (including Cheney, Rummy, Wolfie, Condi and Colin), Clinton’s Bosnian while cigar ing Monica, and Droner In Chief Nobel Peace Prize winner.
If you think Trump pulled back the war machine, you have TDS II
He tried hard to start a war with Iran, we are still in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan and he increased military spending
He merely talked tough because he had to; the weapon lobby is utterly ruthless, they can make or break you, even literally when necessary, I am sure you know that.!….But like I said in my previous post, you used to be pro Trump….What changed your mind, your audience maybe ? I d say, stick with your believes !
Biden campaign has announced that they will suspend all negative campaign advertising during this “emergency”.
What a bunch of malarkey! There’s a sucker born every minute….
Didn’t have enough negative ads in the first place; but now can spin that into a positive…
There is a comment below that stands as one of the most insightful comments on the Trump phenomenon. Expectations were formed and not realized, making the letdown so much worse. The same is true for HRC. The expectation was she would win. By not winning, defeating Trump became THE ONLY AGENDA.
Taking Mish’s 14 questions, I’d ask if the issue underlying each question is inherently bad? Anyone think the USA should have open immigration, for example? If you do, you need a lesson in economics and human behavior. Unfettered immigration until continue until the USA has the same living standard as the originating countries.
Regarding the ‘deep state’, should we do nothing about government incompetence; for example the mask fiasco? Or corruption in the FBI and DOJ? Eg. FISA Applications?
The point is Trump identified a series of critical issues, setting expectations.
There is ONLY ONE question: was Trump merely not up to the task, or were the forces aligned against him so great that success was impossible? The evidence is right in front of you. Besides Fox, did any mass media EVER say anything positive/supportive? Instead, we were shown child prisons from the Obama era.
Unfortunately, many readers are unable to critically process information, merely suck up what they read/hear. Obamacare was doomed from day one. IT purported to be insurance, but wasn’t. It was another government social program, a grand goal with poor implementation, placing the cost on taxpayers.
The lesson from the last 3.5 years: mind control is infinitely easier with closed minds.
If you act like an asshole, people are going to treat you like one. And for the record, assholes don’t generally get much respect.
Michigan Supreme court strikes down Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s Covid 19 executive orders as unconstitutional.
Nobody has “total authority” in the USA.
Sometimes that’s good. Sometimes that’s bad.
I can’t seem to confirm he’s on mechanical ventilation. That does not square with what’s in the media, but who knows?
That would be a really bad sign….and I doubt it’s true. You have to be intubated to be on a ventilator, and they usually heavily medicate ventilated patients….all kinds of repercussions there.
Nearly all white Americans are racist white supremacists. Trump is their president.
don’t care – still BETTER OF THE WORST
Happening now: WH pool says Trump to visit Walter Reed Military Medical Center today. Admitted on a ventilator. That’s the only reason to move him. The White House has a fully functioning medical office within the complex. link to twitter.com
None of those matter. You just don’t get it!
I voted for Trump and I would vote again because he is not a life long politician. I would potentially vote for many others if given the choice to vote for someone who has not been in Washington for the last 47 years!
Sorry, I would have responded right away but I have to work.
“None of those matter. You just don’t get it!…”
So results don’t make any difference. Not at all. Hmm.
I would say that’s a rather ridiculous stance. And one of the worst defenses of our current president’s performance that I’ve ever seen.
Ridiculous details don’t matter. Actual lies that cost us money make a difference.
“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
“If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.”
its a bot
lol… No bot but my wife says that once in a while.
And others got results? So till Trump all was well other presidents got results?
Are you kidding me????
OMG this is why we are where we are today.
You’re on the left side of the IQ curve brother.
People who believe a corrupt crony Joe Biden who has been in politics 47 years and is part of the problem will fix the problems Joe Biden himself took part in creating are on the left side of the IQ curve.
I don’t believe that Biden is the savior by any means. I argued against him all through the primaries and thought his sorry ass was dead and gone, until the Dem establishment showed the power they have by reviving his campaign when it looked like Sanders had a lock.
But at this juncture, Trump is a “clear and present danger” to the USA and the world. Biden is simply the lesser of two evils.
Comments about IQ tend to operate in reverse. That said, Biden’s education reflects a C-average student throughout. (see his Wikipedia bio). I don’t know his IQ, but 105-110 would be generous. However, he’s a politician. He won’t go off half-cocked. He appears relatively harmless and inoffensive (your lesser of two evils). When it comes time to solve any problem, he’ll set up a committee. He isn’t a leader in the real sense of the word. At best he’s a facilitator. At worst, he will be a deep-state puppet.
Mish – I noticed no one answered any of your questions.
Trumplings tend to keep to their safe spaces. Nothing here but bots.
Trump supporters were much more likable in 2016 when they were being honest with themselves. They didn’t want the corrupt establishment candidate so they opted for the outsider instead. They were protesting an amoral, stagnant status quo and that’s totally understandable.
However, after Trump took office they started fantasizing about 4D chess and habitually excusing away Trump’s many shortcomings. It turned out that not much changed with him. The deficits got even larger, the MIC even more bloated, and the pandering to banks continued unabated. Our march to insolvency accelerated, if anything. The Trump experiment is clearly a failure.
Biden won’t fix anything but with hindsight we all know Trump won’t either. The fact that people are willing to take up arms for this guy shows how desperate people are for a hero that isn’t coming. They would be better served preparing for a tougher future and stop believing in the red/blue game despite being betrayed umpteen times!
I am a former Trump voter who regrets my vote.
Joe Biden is the embodiment of the corrupt establishment.
47 years in politics.
Biden is just as corrupt as Hillary Clinton.
See, THIS is why so many find Trump fans to be annoying. Only someone with serious tunnel vision could read my post as an endorsement of Biden.
Trump and Biden both suck. What’s hard to understand about that?
Having survived a probable case of the Spanish Flu picked up during his attendance at the Paris Peace Conference the previous fall, on this day in 1919, US president Woodrow Wilson (*1856 – †1924) suffered a debilitating stroke after an exhausting but ultimately unsuccessful barnstorming campaign push in the western states to rally support for the America’s membership in the League of Nations that left him incapacitated for the remainder of his term. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta1ZcjpwVLo&feature=emb_logo
And now for the rest of the story: link to patriotpost.us
Nothing like posting a link – twice, no less – from such a reputable site.
Oh the memories.
Can’t make any claim as a Trump supporter cuz I ain’t. Would like to point out that the Patriot Act keeps getting bipartisan support though. Rather strange, don’t you think?
So who ya votin’ for, non-trump supporter?
I’m planning on a write in for Ron Paul, but may swing over to VOTEGODZILLA as there is some campaign going on twitter, which I am not a subscriber. That’s if it actually gets a foothold. The VOTEGOZILLA campaign is to draw attention to the endless wars, corruption, The US Constittution, ect.
So since Joe Biden is leading the polls your vote for Ron Paul will actually support Joe Biden getting elected….
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The actual Lord Acton quote has far more meaning than your ‘quotes for dummies’:
“… I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King unlike other men, with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority…”
They do have somewhat different corporate sponsors, with somewhat different agendas.
This website seems to be full of intelligent people. How do you not all see that politics is nothing more than theater and that those at the top all work for the same big money interests? Much like the WWF in my youth, it’s all for show. No matter which party wins, you can be sure that we, the people, will lose. I can’t believe that people still think voting matters…
I believe it is now called reality TV in the age of Trump, but yeah, most voters are just happy tax slaves.
Voting matters THIS particular time. Usually it matters less….but one always has an obligation to vote for what he/she considers the lesser evil. If you don’t you just accept that you’re at the mercy of whatever the world decides to hand you….this is MY country, a bad choice is better than no choice.
How does voting not matter? We get who we elect. That part of the system is still functioning.
The problem is that the vast majority of voters are foolish in their thinking on political issues. … We suffer BECAUSE their votes matter.
It seems to me you have to be very wealthy to be nominated and selected, which excludes many more competent but not so wealthy candidates.
Exactly. And this will continue until elections are all publicly funded. Any time you take money from some private interest, they are giving you that money because they are going to ask for something in return down the road.
And it’s a waste of money as well of course. There’s no return, a who spends the most competition in the belief that will help you win also doesn’t necessarily generate the desired result for the voting public. Advertisers understandably like the current setup.
The election is over and we lost.
Cultists, not supporters. When properly framed that way, there’s zero point in asking.
I do not care about all the emotional BS. (and if you really want to end race issues, everyone has to stop talking about it, then it will have a chance to become a non-issue and go away). I am looking for the candidate who will objectively improve the life of my family… and I see ZERO reasons to believe Biden will do anything good, and some of his ideas are looking plain scary. So status -quo looks a lot more attractive.
“…if you really want to end race issues, everyone has to stop talking about it,…”
Yes – that has worked so well in the past. For the racists.
If you’re referring to economic well being when you mention the life of your family, then BOTH candidates represent the status quo. More debt, more subservience to Wall St.
Emotional arguments are the only thing making people believe that this election will change anything.
I still trying figure out what Obama did for race issues.
What about Donnie Fatso’s claim about ending the War on Christmas? Is he going to toss Melanie under the bus?
That’s funny! But … what?
No, Trump failed on all these things. But either Trump or Biden are going to be elected next month. As bad as he is, Trump is the lesser of two evils.
Many of us aren’t as concerned about Biden as we are his Party, and we don’t think Biden will be around to keep the other Dems in check (or that if he is still around, he won’t do a strong job of keeping them in check).
My biggest concern with a Biden win is that it’s likely accompanied by a Democratic House and Democratic Senate.
Since I don’t like either Prez candidate, I’ll be happiest if the Senate and White House are held by different parties (the House staying with Dems is a done deal).
I would rather have Republicans nominating the Supreme Court judges instead of the extreme left of Democrats so I hope Republicans keep Senate.
Trump is already calling the election a sham and said he wouldn’t commit to a peaceful transfer of power.
That’s like Constitution 101. He’s a friend of dictators and the enemy of democracy. I can’t think of anything more dangerous, really.
Hillary told Biden to NOT concede under any circumstances and Obama/Biden started a Democrat coup attempt against Trump through FBI/CIA in 2016 even before Trump became president based on bogus Steele Dossier ordered and paid for by Hillary Clinton and DNC and full of LIES invented by a Russian living in USA long-term and working for a Democrat thinktank and this morphed into Mueller Special Counsel that was so corrupt that the agents assigned to Mueller Special Counsel investigation “accidentally” wiped 27 phones when DOJ Inspector General asked to see the phones when probing the overreach and wrongdoing committed by Mueller Special Counsel.
Agreed on Trump’s playing with fire with the election. Can we also agree that a weakly predicated investigation of a sitting president, while the media implies his illegitimacy, or pushing narratives about widespread voter suppression are also very dangerous?
The fear of the Dems is hilarious. Under the last few Dem presidents growth has not been bad. The last two financial crises came under Republican presidents – not Dems. Second big money and the lobbyist will continue to control and the Supreme Court is firmly locked in to be pro-business, pro-life, small government. I think you are fairly safe.
Dems have made a hard left in the last 5 years.
Obama railed against cancel culture. It’s basically a major party tenet now.
Biden and Harris were pro-cop, law-and-order pols. You don’t hear any of that now.
I’m not afraid of what Dems were. I voted for Obama (and never have or will vote for a Trump). I’m afraid of what they’ve become. What they did years ago means nothing now.
Have you notice the Dems souring on some core US principles? Speech, equality under the law, presumption of innocence, abandonment of color-blind principles? Why does Gallup show only 17% of Dems are proud to be American?
A vote for the lesser of two evils is a vote for evil.
Mel Carnahan beat John Ashcroft in the 2000 Missouri Senate race despite the handicap of being dead for 3 weeks.
Missouri or Misery?
When you’re a politician, being dead isn’t a handicap, it’s your most endearing feature.
Carnahan likely received more votes because of that. What harm could he do if elected?
I think the question to day is how does Trump’s contracting the virus impact his re-election. Not only does Trump have a duty to keep the country safe but he has a duty to keep his staff and himself safe to protect the country. It clearly looks like not only has he not adequately protected the country but he exposed himself and his team unnecessarily. There was minimal social distancing and use of masks.
Trump’s answer he gets tested daily. Well a negative pregnancy test is no substitue for birth control just like a covi test is no substute for social distancing and ask wearing
“I think the question to day is how does Trump’s contracting the virus impact his re-election. “
I agree. This is an interesting question.
I’d all but concluded that Trump had lost. Does this change anything?
We really don’t know yet for sure. On one hand it’s a reminder of his covid-19 failure but some may rally around a sick President
Think of it this way: Trump has had covid. When he gets better, there is no more reason to worry about him and covid for the next 4 years. He can’t get it again ( I don’t believe the reports that say it can happen) and he can’t pass it on once it’s out of his system. Biden will be forever hiding and distancing to protect himself.
Mish, are you doing the Biden list tomorrow, out of fairness??
Doesn’t Biden have to get elected first in order to ask the questions if he delivered on his campaign promises? I don’t see your point. Biden isn’t the POTUS.
its an attempt at a false eqivalence. as a senator he was always one of a hundred
Biden led the Foreign Relations Committee in Senate when USA attacked Iraq.
Biden led the Senate Judiciary committee for a long time and bragged on the Senate floor how he wrote or took part in writing ALL the prison, crime, drug, sentencing laws for years and years during Reagan presidency, George H.W. Bush presidency and first two years of Clinton presidency since Democrats had majority during that time culminating in the 1994 crime bill and Biden bragging on the Senate floor his bill is locking people up for everything else except jaywalking.
Biden also took part in writing and sponsored the bankruptcy laws and creditcard laws so average American getting creditcards in the mail without having asked for them and paying average 21% in interest and many never even paying their interest on their credit card bills is all Joe Biden and Hunter Biden was given a cushy job at huge salary, luxury office at MBNA aka the biggest creditcard issuer at the time around this time.
Joe Biden also made sure that student debt would NOT be dischargeable in bankruptcy and this led to students getting double the amount in student loans from banks because risk of non-payment was removed/minimized and that led to doubling of the college/university tuition because more money was available so more money was charged and this led to students under huge debt loads with no realistic way to pay them and demanding that their student debts should be cancelled from the man aka Joe Biden who created those student debts.
I smell a special pleading fallacy…
You can analyze nearly 5 decades of promises vs. actions with Biden. You don’t have to look exclusively at the last 4 years.
Exactly. Mish’s article didn’t necessarily state just campaign promises did it. I took it as promises in general such as “You can keep your Dr. under Obama Care> Which Biden brags about helping to craft.
Biden isn’t the incumbent. There were no promises to break. During the Obama years he was VP decisions were not up to him
Haven’t you heard Biden tell how he saved USA from a banking crisis?
Biden was also responsible for USA’s policy on China and Ukraine.
It doesn’t matter, Biden will turn us into Cuba. Do you actually believe anything that Biden says? He tried to do something about healthcare and McCain blocked it. I can’t believe so many want a hard turn to socialism. No telling how much could have been accomplished had congress worked with him.
I would rather live in “Cuba” under democrats than America under Trump. No point in speculating though, as of today even if Trump were able to get every single toss up state he still would not win in the electoral college (without cheating).
Then why did you stay in America rather than move to Cuba?
You are really a moron aren’t you? Instead of wasting your time trying to trigger me why don’t you go downtown to the Vanilla Spa for men and finger something a little more willing?
No you don’t. I came from Cuba as a boy. I promise you it’s not better there.
With respect, communist Cuba may be as bad a place as you have ever seen, but had you grown up in America which really was great in my lifetime only to see what it has become now and accelerated under the Trump hate regime you would understand why I put “CUBA” in quotes, it was a metaphore, and was not about modern communist Cuba at all, but about a quasi socialist nation led by Biden being better than a fascist US led by Trump and his filthy supporters who know only hate and fear and demand obedience and above all white skin .
A future of this nation under Trump would be a worse place to live for us than Cuba ever was on it’s worst day, in part because of how much we have lost. A Biden Cuba would be better than a Trump America circa 2024, because in Trump’s MAGA United States we have no checks or balances, no real freedom, just a few with privileges as long as you obey and conform. 70% of us will be in poverty, and many in deep structural poverty no different from Cuba. Elections may happen but would have no more impact than if you held an election in Cuba today. Lies would be all you get and you would know they were lies, but when that is all you can get you just have no choices.
There is no fictional dystopia be it Hunger Games, 1984, The Handmaid’s Tale, Brave New World, The Running Man, that would be worse than the MAGA world Trump and his supporters think is so GREAT!
I wonder though, being an immigrant, what you think about Trump’s SHITHOLE comments when it comes to immigration from the Caribbean? I can tell you this much, if you want to see Trump and the GOP’s America of 2040 all you have to do is go to Tijuana, bucause that is what thr GOP wet dream would result in.
“but about a quasi socialist nation led by Biden being better than a fascist US led by Trump and his filthy supporters who know only hate and fear and demand obedience and above all white skin .”
Hysterical nonsense. You clearly don’t know what fascism is, nor recognize how much hate and fear has been unleashed by the left in this country. All of the racial division in this country is coming from the woke, who have abandoned MLK’s beautiful ideals. It’s a shame that people raised here don’t understand how unique and wonderful the US is. There I said it.
You probably should go back to Cuba then right? Because you clearly do not appreciate what you have here. My father was an immigrant and I hold a passport in both US and his homeleand, I have lived there, it is a socialist paradise they tell me, I hated it, I want nothing to do with the EU and cannot wait to see it fail, ask anyone here about my reasons when we were all talking about Brexit.
But, there is also a fascism that is DEEPLY rooted in the republican party and usually wropping the US flag around itself which demands conformity and assume older wealthy white male patriarchy that I can tell you right now the USA is NEVER going back to no matter how much traditionalists agitate for it. I live in Florida and am well aware of the Cuban Latin penchent for male domination and GOP leanings, the only thing about it that is American is that you have the freedom to be jerks you would not have in Cuba, and I think that is what pisses Cubans here off the most, they long for the corrupt Fulgencio Batista (a fascist if there ever was one) days when men with money were little gods in thier own houses. Emphasis on LITTLE!
Unless you have been naturalized you are guest in America, I know from my uncle’s naturilzation that the tests to become an American citizen are not exactly very difficult. There is more to learning about America and how to be American than getting a 70% score on a test.
Childish insults… and stereotypes…based on country of origin… Yes… clearly the only thing wrong with Cuba is that it’s not governed by Batista any more. You’re a clever one. Regardless, you were wrong about the reasons for the creation of electoral college and conflate how the shares were calculated for its reason for existence. But why don’t you come back with some insults or just jump straight to racial slurs to save time.
Well unlike most Trump brainwashed supporters at least you admit to being a fascist. I do not need slurs to handle you, everyone here can see what a creep you are.
Out of respect for Mish, I’m ending this pointless exchange.
We have gotten a lot of socialist leaning policies under Trump. He isn’t a dam separating America from socialism.
If you really believe this kind sir, I have a bridge in beautiful New York City that I can offer to you at a very reasonable price.
I need no buildings, nor cans of your right wing Nazi Spam! I just flag nonsense posts like yours that have no point but to antagonize other posters here.
It really doesn’t matter to any of the Tumpalina supporters.
All they care about is that he continually reflect and mirror their emotionally immature stances on race and hatred.
In their small minds that is a victory. What they don’t comprehend is why they call it “his base”. Yo,..Trumpalina supporters they call you his base because he’s standing on you.
Of course ,…in any other individuals know, who has normal functioning active alive and firing at optimum brain neurons,…Trumpalina is a little boy that has not outgrown his temper tantrums and (for a while) has gotten away with it.
Looks like life just handed Trumpaloina a reality card.
NO. One does not have to be a Trump supporter to fear Harris presidency, and the international turmoil that would ensue if the warmonger’s faction is again fully enabled. Even if you think Trump is a moron and a clown, outcomes could be better than yielding to the other side.
If the Dems win, America will probably devolve to a one party state (pack the court and the Senate, and the demographics).
Uh Huh.
So you’re going to give all those known and obvious dictatorial/personality/racist cues a miss on ‘your guy’ and dump on the woman running for higher office? I think I’ll take my chances with the Dem team.
Racist “cues” imagined and invented by media straight up LYING about what Trump has said and Democrats repeating the media’s lies and inventing new ones.
VS
Democrats who openly support rioting, looting, arson and attack police and want to defund/abolish police and want open borders and no border enforcement and abolishing ICE and NO deportations and promise 125k “refugees” every year from UN camps where EVERYONE was already SAFE and promise amnesty and US citizenship for all current ILLEGAL immigrants in USA that number 29.5 million (MIT-Yale 2018) which creates 29.5 million new Democrat voters turning many Republican states Democrat controlled California’s and say they want to create two new states from Puerto Rico and Washington DC to get 4 new Democrat Senators and say they want pack the Supreme Court so it is 13 members or more so it has instantly 7-6 Democrat majority and say they want to end filibuster.
If you vote for Democrats in 2020 you are voting for one party control for Democrats for the next 100 years.
Those cues are not made up by the Democrats. They are from quotes our President has made and continues to make/add to.
And the canard about Democrats supporting rioting and such is getting old. It’s never been true and is pulled out (along with immigration) whenever someone has run out of real arguments. No one (hence the strawman argument) wants rioting and destruction – the difference between the parties is actually rather subtle, since neither really wants to change things very much. That is the problem.
The destruction comes from hopelessness that leads to ‘nothing left to lose’ mentality. Neither party has outlined a plan to move toward a position that gives those hopeless people ‘something to lose’. If that happened, I think you would see progress on many social fronts – the problem is that the change involved would be large. Our society would need to solve it’s inequality problem and address the racism inherent in many of our institutions – these problems are multi-generational and I don’t particularly see them being solved quickly nor without major disruption to our economy and ‘way of life’.
This, however, brings up the one difference between the parties that is probative — the Democrats have a broader target for their power base compared to the Republicans. From an equality standpoint, that is the easier place to start. Again, neither party really wants to disrupt the current flow of money (and power) to their respective leaderships; hence neither party really wants all the change necessary to fix some of these problems. However, the Democratic party will be more responsive to those working to highlight and solve these problems because those people are part of their base; the Republican party is too beholden to protecting the economic interests of the top 1% and to appeasing those that really don’t want change at all.
“emotionally immature stances on race and hatred”
Versus the emotional maturity of wokeism?! lol
Of course not (on all 14), but does it make Biden a better choice?
In all fairness, tRump did label China a currency manipulator around the end of last year (I believe). But then he laughed so hard when Mnuchin suggested to him to look into the mirror.
Is Trump better than Biden? Yes.
No
tRump is a better/more competent liar for sure.
He is way better at contracting COVID-19 than Biden, that is settled science.
Both candidates are problematic, but for different reasons. I am not unconcerned about the Democrat’s love of all things PC and BLM.
Kendi (born Henry Rogers) is not someone I consider a legitimate civil rights hero…..far from it.
The 1619 Project is a misguided attempt to re-write history.
BLM is a nest of young Marxists who are going to go down because of corruption, most likely. They are getting a whole lot of money, and I follow how it’s being spent.
Hint: Most of the money goes to the founders and their “consultants”. Trump is not the only one who plays fast and loose with money.
But Trump? Trump is an IMMEDIATE threat to just about everything I hold dear. So I’ll take my chances with the socialist revolution…for the moment.
Feature of socialist revolutions is that they are permanent and Democracy is removed and the socialism only stops after everything is ruined and a lot of people have been killed for not being socialist/marxist/communist enough.
1.
Democrats have publicly said they plan to end the filibuster completely so total control on all things for Democrats.
2.
Several Democrats have said they want to make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states and that would give Democrats 4 more Senate seats and many House Seats ensuring Senate majority in almost every election and increasing their majority in the House.
3.
Several Democrats have proposed packing the Supreme Court with leftist judges by raising the number of judges from 9 to 13 so it would be 7-6 for Democrats instead of 6-3 for Republicans after Barrett.
4.
Joe Biden has promised amnesty and US citizenship for all current ILLEGAL immigrants in USa and there are 29.5 million according to a MIT-Yale study from 2018 so that would mean 29.5 million new Democrat voters making many Republican states permanently like California aka always won by Democrats so this would ensure a Democrat president for the next 100 years and Democrat House for the next 100 years and with Washington DC and Puerto Rico being made states a Democrat Senate for the next 100 years and this would lead to Democrats moving to become a party of Bernie/AOC and even more socialist Democrats so every stupid socialist policy Democrats could think of would be done.
The conclusion at the end of either a Trump presidency or a Biden presidency will be more debt, more government, and less liberty.
JFC
Sure, if you hate a democratic America and love an authoritarian America.
Democrats are the authoritarians as evidenced by Biden promising to shut whole of USA down into a lockdown if an “expert” recommends it to him and several Democrat governors/mayors running brutal lockdowns where police harass jews (Cuomo and De Blasio), good for you but not for me policies (Nancy Pelosi’s haircut during hairdersses and barbers being ordered closed, Chicago Mayor’s haircut, California state gyms for bureaucrats and politicians being open when private gyms were forced shut, Arrests and fines and harassment for every restaurant or gym who broke rules, Gov. Whitmer’s planned boating trip etc.), religious persecution of closing churches and even fining people coming for a drive-in church service and sitting in their cars, destroyng businesses with lockdowns with a smile on their face, New York, New Jersey, Michigan and Illinois Democrat governors ordering Covid patients to nursing homes, having Democrat funded organizations sue states to get more looser voting regulations and then Democrat governors “circumventing” the suit by ordering more looser voting regulations.
No and no. Trump is a charlatan. HOWEVER, some 20-40% of the Dem party is in the thrall of CRT, which undermines our founding principles, evidence, reason, justice, capitalism, education and interracial relations. And Biden has no spine to resist his left wing (unlike, say, a Bloomberg or perhaps Klobuchar could have). America can survive Trump. I’m not sure we can survive the Zinn/1619/Kendization of our country.
I am not in disagreement with this assessment until the last part…but I firmly believe that Trump is the greater risk, even though I concede that your point is well made.
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