And No One Thought to Make a Copy
I don’t want to be too snarky but Trump needs to close a big polling deficit and this is the message on a day with 80k new COVID cases and a 940 point decline in the Dow. https://t.co/aJ4kPawfmb
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) October 29, 2020
“I don’t want to be too snarky but Trump needs to close a big polling deficit and this is the message on a day with 80k new COVID cases and a 940 point decline in the Dow,” responds Nate Silver.
Biggest Story
Dear Donald Trump
The biggest news story is your failure to learn anything from Hillary, then the most despised candidate ever.
You are now the most despised and will go down in flames.
The only difference: She blamed Russia not herself. You will blame the media not yourself. https://t.co/GhGvMNQn5y
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) October 28, 2020
Dear Donald Trump
The biggest news story is your failure to learn anything from Hillary, then the most despised candidate ever.
You are now the most despised and will go down in flames.
The only difference: She blamed Russia not herself. You will blame the media not yourself.
I wrote that last night before the documents vanished.
We can now safely add “The dog ate my homework before I made copies,” thesis.
Reflections on Copies
Let’s for a moment assume there are copies.
Then, if there is any substance to them, Team Trump is damn foolish sitting on that evidence while 60+ million people vote.
There is no damning evidence.
Sitting on the Documents?
My interpretation was they were looking at a copy of the package, not a copy of the documents.
“They used pictures of what we had sent”
If Tucker had the damn documents then he should just send them again.
Unless the concern is they want to cherry pick what is in the docs. https://t.co/YC3UKI5zmJ
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) October 29, 2020
60 million people voted! Perhaps 70 million.
Just checked, it’s 75 million.
But no, they are not sitting on documents.
They are waiting for the opportune moment 2 hours before the polls close. https://t.co/m8KKpwmwA0
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) October 29, 2020
Lesson From Shakespeare
Mish
Why no follow up with facts?
UPS stated that they found the package ripped open at their sorting center and after further investigation found the documents and a thumb drive.
Are you asserting that UPS is now part of Q Anon or that they deliberately tanked their own corporate brand?
What about some honesty here, this story is relevant if news about the Biden Family corruption is being suppressed, which it is. Are you okay with suppression of facts?
Greenwald adopts the Trumpista language….
Glenn Greenwald tells Tucker Carlson ‘the left is in bed with a CIA set on destroying Trump’
The journalist, part of a team that won a Pulitzer for reports about government surveillance programs based on leaks by Edward Snowden, told the Fox New host that the left’s ‘healthy skepticism of the CIA’ has ‘all disappeared’.
Greenwald, who announced his resignation from the The Intercept Thursday, added: ‘The reason it’s disappeared is because the CIA from the very first days of the Trump administration, even before he was inaugurated, devoted themselves to sabotaging the inauguration because Donald Trump questioned a few of their pieties and that can’t be done in Washington.
‘So the CIA and the deep state operative became heroes of the liberal left, the people who support the democratic party. They are now in a full union with the neocons and the Bush Cheney operatives, the CIA, silicon valley and Wall Street.
‘That is the union of power, along with along with mainstream media outlets, that are fully behind the democratic party which is likely to at least take over one branch of government, if not all of them, in the coming election and that’s a very alarming proposition because they are authoritarian, they believe in censorship and suppression of information that exposes them in any kind of a critical light.’
Greenwald then suggested members of the CIA, DoJ, FBI and NSA now ‘tell Americans what they ought to believe’. He added: ‘They have infiltrated the means of communication domestically. If they do it through leaks, clandestine operations and through lies.’
News update: UPS found the missing documents but are mum about the details. Tucker remarked that FOX is getting a lot of information concerning Hunter’s personal life that they are choosing not to disclose. As much as I despise Hunter and everything he represents, good for Fox and other networks/platforms that keep the discourse within the bounds of decency.
Chappaqua NY is famous for backyard bonfires.
Mish, there is a new opening at The Intercept with your name on it!
A reminder to Mish Talk readers that the Church Commission revealed many things that nowadays would be called ‘conspiracy theory.’ If you don’t know what the Church Commission was, perhaps you should find out.
The selection below is not to support Q (anon) or any other conspiracy theory: it comes from an anonymous book, shocking in its detail, but supposedly fiction. It was published on Amazon six months before the Q releases.
“The mass of mankind accept what seems as what is; nay, are often touched more nearly by appearances than by realities,” Machiavelli wrote. (Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livius) Foolishly, we choose news outlets confirming our biases, and believe our choices are the most truthful, with no more proof than empty assertions and questionable facts. We deride other points of view as ‘fake news.’ It is intellectually and emotionally ‘safer’ that way. We stop thinking critically. We call out as ‘shills’ and ‘trolls’ anyone who dares to differ. We become the unthinking masses. Again, to quote Machiavelli, “There are three classes of intellects… one which understands things by itself; the second which appreciates what others can understand; and a third which neither understands for itself nor through others; the first kind is excellent, the second is good enough, the third is useless.”
The problem we have ……..is that the intellects of third kind all think they’re the first kind.
Machiavelli meets Dunning and Kruger on FaceBook…..is where we are.
I’m with NBJR, FOX lawyer got the “documents” saw that it was bullshit and could cause FOX legal problems and told Carlson: “just tell your listeners that the documents were lost/stolen, spin it on Qanon,they will believe anything!
I think the Bidens were running a side business. I believe the Clinton Foundation was a bribery conduit. And I believe Trump paid little taxes over the last few years and that’s the primary reason he won’t release his returns. The evidence for is far greater than the evidence against.
There may be a million things wrong with Donald Trump, but there’s a lot more wrong with collusion to unseat a fairly elected president.
The most logical explaination is that the serious lawyers/analysts reviewed the “documents”, found them entirely spurious and potentially hazardous to the survival of Fox, pulled them and said “tell them that they were lost in the mail”.
Sme other things about this phoney deal…
….incriminating information supposedly located on a Hunter Biden laptop left in a Delaware computer shop had in fact been circulating in Ukraine well before it was reportedly turned over to Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer. Over the weekend, Time reported that the Hunter Biden emails and photos were being shopped in Kiev last fall by somebody who “wanted to sell it to Republican allies of President Trump.” Several days later, Politico reported the “Hunter Biden laptop” material was being shopped around by a “Ukrainian oligarch looking for help with a potential legal jam” as early as spring of 2019.
Another oddity in the timing, as Andrew Prokop noticed, is that the star witness for Fox News and Trump, Tony Bobulinski, claimed he only came forward because he was outraged at the response to the New York Post story first reporting the email hacks. But Ben Smith reported in the New York Times that Bobulinski was working with Trump’s campaign to pitch the story to the Wall Street Journal, before they settled for giving it to the New York Post. (The Journal duly reported that they had no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden.)…
Meanwhile, Biden offer sympathy for the declining state of the Post Office..
We disagree with Tucker Carlson on the issues, but no one should ever lose their mail. Joe will make sure the USPS receives the funding it needs to prevent this from happening, and end Trump and DeJoy’s efforts to sabotage it so that people like Tucker can get their mail on time.
—@BidenWarRoom
The Biden/Hunter/Ukraine thing is old news amongsst those of us who are enlightened and reality based & read about this 5-6 yrs ago, over at Naked Capitalism among others.
Obama/Hillary and his Dick Cheney hold over (see…NO DIFFERENCE BTWN OBAMA-CHENEY…SAME THING) orchestrated a horrific illegal coup and overthrew the rational (and corrupt but that’s Ukraine national religion) Ukraine govt and installed Nazi freaks who basically sought to exterminate all Russian descendants in Ukraine. Mind you, they’ve been there longer that the United States has existed.
Crimea saw that freak show going on in Ukraine and said “Earth to Russia, beam us back to Earth we want to rejoin you” and voted in a 100% legal election (Ukraine formally dissolved it’s self so no law existed any longer linking Crimea to Ukraine) and voted 97% with a turnout of 83% to leave the insane asylum where Obama had but the inmates in charge.
And recently, the maniacs the US installed were so unpopular they had 6% popular approval ratings, and a COMEDIAN defeated them in the election by a massive margin and is now their President.
One of the ideas he ran on was restoring good relations with Russia, which is far more important to Ukraine’s economy that the West.
If they had one copy of a game changing document, which they put in the mail, no photocopies, no scanned e-copy that would pretty much define why these people shouldn’t be in charge of anything more important that an ice cream stand….but even that this is the best lie they could come up with is pretty sad.
I hear Wendy’s is super excited about the possibility of advertising on the Tucker Carlson show after last night.
You are missing the point. Tucker has a Qanon following. Last week he went went after an NbC reporter for reporting on QAnonon
How to spot a liar, part 2:
Dad: Bobby says you broke the window at the Robinson’s with a ball?
Honest Kid: No, I was at Tony’s place. Ask his mother!
Liar: Bobby’s just saying that because I’m better at soccer.
Question: Did you accept money from abroad for political influence?
Honest politician: Untrue. An examination of records will prove where all our money came from.
Liar: This is just Russian disinformation. It’s been completely debunked.
If there was a document and it was stolen….I bet the carrier was Fedex. I have stuff stolen from them before. Typically they use the tracking number to find out it was somehow routed to S. Dakota but they are not sure where it when after that. LOL
FedEx is the worst. I cringe when I find out my package is shipping via FedEx. >10% chance it will be stuck in a warehouse somewhere forever.
The strawberries!
Carlson just announced that he has a bridge to sell to the highest bidder.
Even if they can locate the docs, it doesn’t matter. Hardly anyone voting for Biden is doing so because they believe he’s especially trustworthy anyway.
We’ve graduated from an era of platforms and ideas to whatever the hell this is, just making sure the printer still goes brrrr and antagonizing people we don’t like.
The whole 2020 script has gone off the rails. Next thing we know Putin will come out of the closet, abdicate, and get a job at a think tank. And Xi will dress up for Halloween in a Winnie the Pooh costume and announce his candidacy for President of Taiwan.
You fools, Chinese in collusion with the Russians stole (hide) the documents
Why is this “news” worth 5 minutes of air time? I’ve never heard any other news organization report a story like “we were doing an investigative piece, but lost really important evidence in the mail.” Is that what passes as news on the FNC nowadays?
I think he’s insinuating something which he has no evidence of. How does this fall under journalism, news, commentary, or even opinion on a major news network? Does FNC routinely peddle baseless conspiracy theories nowadays (even after the departure of Glenn Beck)?
Why is 90% of what they show on the “news” worthy of any airtime, let alone 5 minutes?
A likely explanation is a ripped package somewhere. contents fell out.
Something like that.
Trump shouldn’t have f***ed with the Mail Man.
Staged theft?
How’s come nobody is talking about that theory?
Think about it, if the evidence isn’t damning enough, then what better way to suggest guilt? By paying off an insider to stage a theft of it and point a finger at Biden loyalists. Make theft more damning than the evidence. Admittedly desperate move, but possible.
Maybe we can hire OJ Simpson to investigate.
And if you believe that damning evidence ever existed, then Jo will be in the White House in January.
well,mark my words. Based on both candidates solar return birth chart.Trump is in a period signify 11th House (Victory !) while Biden is in a period signify 7th house ( Competitor house) which mean he will lose to Trump. It is destined Trump will win the election eventhough i don’t really like both of them. corrupted as hell and arrogant and evil.
Wait…I consulted the oracle of Jupiter and I was assured that Biden will win….
I believe Uranus is a better place to look.
Biden spies are everywhere!
I see Trump’s Zombies everywhere…
The only bad publicity is no publicity. Thanks for helping to keep the words “Corruption”, “Biden”, “Secretive”, and “Damning” at the forefront of peoples’ minds!
The shipper has not figured out how it disappeared. The interesting part is that it disappeared. How it was stolen is more the story here.
Of course they made paper copies and digital copies. Who ships copied documents in the mail anyways? I don’t get it.
The reason you don’t get it is because his story doesn’t make sense.
And the story doesn’t make sense because he is lying about the documents existing in the first place.