The Law and Order President Encourages a Wild Protest

“Wild Protest Be There”

“Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!”

No Evidence, Just Claims

Fox News Discusses the Tweet in Trump promises ‘wild’ protest in DC on Jan. 6, the day Congress to count electoral votes

On Saturday, Trump linked to a report by Peter Navarro that claims without evidence that the amount of election fraud was sufficient to swing the election.  

Some Trump allies have planned to call for a debate in the House when the election results are received. However, those plans were dealt a blow when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asked his Republican colleagues in the Senate not to contest the election results on Jan. 6, when a joint session of Congress formally accepts the count.

After McConnell recognized Biden as president-elect in a Tuesday speech on the floor of the Senate, Trump responded by calling on him and other Republicans to “get tougher.”

“.@senatemajldr and Republican Senators have to get tougher, or you won’t have a Republican Party anymore. We won the Presidential Election, by a lot. FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!” Trump charged on Twitter.

Trump, who lost by more than 7 million votes, has also taken aim at a number of other Republicans over their stance on the election — including Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo.

Law and Order

Stand Up For Law and Order

The Law and Order President now seeks a “Wild Protest” and want you to partake in it. 

All because he refuses to admit the obvious. 

Liar of the Year

I nominate Trump for the liar of the year award.

He sounds worse than Hillary who blamed Russia and anyone and everyone but herself.

Mish

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Avery
Avery
3 years ago

Mish, any ideas about who is behind those mysterious crude oil train derailments in the Pacific Northwest? Same guys who attacked Jussie in Chicago?

MATHGAME
MATHGAME
3 years ago

Speaking of law and order … How’s this for encroaching insanity?

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago

In order to successfully have a coup, Trump doesn’t need support of 50% of the people; 20-30% is more than enough, so long as they are the 20-30% with guns. Trump has carefully catered his message to that sub-group. He has support from the pro-guns crowd. He has support from the police. He has also worked for support from the military. He has replaced those at the top of the military and defense department who opposed the use the the military against US civilians, or who were perceived as not 100% loyal to him. The only real question is, how do the rank and file soldiers feel?

It is exactly right to look back to the riots of summer, but people are looking at them wrong. Instead of thinking about the Trump followers starting a bunch of riots on January 6th, think of the summer as a dry run. The goal of Trump followers will not be to start riots themselves, but rather to provoke others to start riots (as happened in Charlotte, for example), and to make them as widespread as possible. Trump has showed that it is possible to provoke people to riot, and to encourage them to continue rioting sufficiently that rioting grows more and more widespread.

I am confident that the military rank and file will not knowingly support a coup. However, if widespread rioting can be provoked, the military rank and file may feel that they are doing their duty to the country by helping to suppress it and to restore and maintain order. Thus, for Trump to have a successful coup, he needs to find a way to provoke widespread rioting, and do it without being seen as the one initiating it. The possibility can not be eliminated that he can accomplish that.

Betweentwoages
Betweentwoages
3 years ago

If I didn’t no better, I would say the best chance of Trump followers losing their guns is to start a bunch of protests / riots (I can promise you the media would have a 180 take on them compared to the lefts uprise this summer ) and if the protests gained steam nationally , the talk of Covid super spreading and confiscating their guns under emergency order may seem tempting to the deep state . Trump doesn’t care about you Republicans , he cares about his ego, winning and fame . Like most all politicians

Betweentwoages
Betweentwoages
3 years ago
Reply to  Betweentwoages

*know

juang933
juang933
3 years ago

yes he is. there is so much evidence of fraud its baffling how the left can continue to deny it. its also very frustrating that the court cases they keep mocking and teasing as reference to say that they were dismissed because there was not evidence, is a lie as well. first, NOT all of those cases were from the Trump campaign. Most of them were filed on be half of citizens throughout the country and were dismissed because of technicalities/standing and NOT on merit. the same is said for trump campaign lawsuits. but now that we know Zuckerberg made illegal contributions that benefited the democrats, which paid for the election workers, judges, ballot boxes, etc. its no wonder they were being dismissed, they were bought out. also, if there’s no widespread fraud, why is Biden and his attorneys fighting and blocking trump attorneys from doing a forensic analysis on the machines? if you have nothing to hide, then let them look at the evidence and stop stonewalling them.

I will say that i find it rather amusing how liberals claim that trump is a dictator, fascist or even hitler. yet nothing could be further from the truth. do you really think that if he was actually like that, that you all would be able to say the things you say about him and not a single thing would happen to you? NO. That would also mean that the msm would have to be state run, and we all know how much the msm hates trump. i mean, they are so biased and its been showing alot more lately. not one single msm has been broadcasting any of the election regularities hearings that had been taking place the last few months. not one. and yet, all that ridiculous bullshit that the left keep spewing of no evidence of any fraud, is coming right from the msm. you guys need to put down the CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and etc. they’re brainwashing you. watch The Epoch Times, they’re unbiased, uncensored and tell you the truth.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  juang933

Whatever. Trump will be gone in 30 days and hopefully, the only time we will hear his name after that is when someone sues him or indicts him.

Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago

I for one cannot wait for the media to move on and quit covering Trump. His popularity is due to a great extent the media and he works them by continually trolling them with outrageous crap.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago

It’s like a troll feeding frenzy. Shame on all you already.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple

We live in the age of disinformation.

What is preferable, ignore it and hope it goes away or call it out?

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago

I don’t know man. Can’t you make it stop?

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple

Trolls or not….

Dylan Thomas – 1914-1953

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

SAKMAN
SAKMAN
3 years ago
Reply to  njbr

We do not want to see what happens when conservatives riot in this country.

Think Tulsa Massacre.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Purple

Aww, what fun is a freak show if you can’t poke the freaks?

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
3 years ago

Should also have added that they not be self serving – too many inside trading.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond
3 years ago

Someone desperately needs to remind our elected senators and congressmen that they serve all citizens of their respective states and constituencies – not just the rich, their cronies and other members of their own respective parties. I fear the swamp will never be drained.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago

They serve the Masters, not the Slaves. Same as it ever was.

Envir
Envir
3 years ago

Getting rid of trump at least partially drains the swamp as he is the swamp master.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

i suspect based on Trump’s behavior if the voting were held today he’d get even fewer electoral votes. zero class or respect for the system. and using the challenges to grift off his base

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

I dunno about that. In a rational world, yes, but…

The last few weeks has shown us that they want to keep Trump more than they want democracy.

I think they would TRY HARDER.

Envir
Envir
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

Some of his cult would try harder. There are more than I would have thought that just don’t want to live in a democracy. Still I suspect some must see the light at this point and that he would get fewer votes.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
3 years ago

The real takeaway here is not about Trump. It’s pretty clear he’s a dangerous demagogue.

The thing we should be looking at is the failure of our system of checks and balances….the Congress is a completely partisan body these days….that would only vote party line on any attempt to bring any such bad president to heel.

This is scarier to me….that we have an elite political class in charge that has lost its moral and ethical compass completely.

I have to give points to the judicial branch this time….they are doing what they’e supposed to do in these circumstances….but they lack the authority to do what should be done….which is…..that incompetent, harmful, self-serving autocrats should be tossed out on their asses.

Instead we have willing sycophants who are eager to subvert the truth, call for martial law, and generally do the kinds of things that have led to dictatorships in the past.

And we have millions of really delusional people willing to follow some idiot into who-knows-what of a future where every decision is based on how it might affect his popularity and re-election odds.

The Presidency wasn’t meant to be a popularity contest. It’s a difficult job that calls for true leadership….the ability to make the hard decisions, often on behalf of people who have the least power…..and to resist going down the path to war when the hawks are screaming for it……someone who is capable of making intelligent choices that might NOT be all that popular.

Trump is not going to pull this off…..I agree with those who say he’s too incompetent….but he has certainly shown the way it could be done….and he remains a threat…he will be a threat as long as he has a bully pulpit to stand on.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

I agree with you but you’re not really calling out the real offenders.

The Republicans are becoming increasingly unhinged from reality and radicalized.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
3 years ago

Louis, I can’t be a partisan Democrat, because they have their own very different set of problems, which will surely become way more obvious as the pendulum swings away from the current Republican extremism.

I do agree that at this moment your criticism of the GOP is very valid.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

It may surprise you but I’m not a partisan Democrat either viewed through that lens. I grew up Republican and have libertarian leanings.

But until the GOP comes back to sanity Democrats are the only rational choice.

njbr
njbr
3 years ago

We are providing the rest of the world with great amusement, many of them having been under the thrall of buffoons over the decades.

Schadenfreude for all !

You don’t think this has a negative impact on the US in the decades to come?

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon
3 years ago

Trump should become a televangelist and give up the president gig. He would make Steve Munsey look like a dunce when it comes to begging people to dig deep into their pockets and give to their savior.

CaliforniaStan
CaliforniaStan
3 years ago
Reply to  Rocky Raccoon

It’s coming, more or less, it’s coming.

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago

So the question is how does Trump pull off the coup? At least in the short run I can see it happening like this: Night of Jan 5: All house and senate leadership are detained by DHS. Day of Jan 6: DHS surrounds the Capitol and prevents any representatives, senators or their staff from entering.

From there, who knows!

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird

No. That is not the way it would happen at all. On January 6th, he will challenge the electors from various states. While that will fail, it will now be on record who is loyal, and who is not. Once the votes are in, his protests will turn violent, both in DC, and around the country. He would then state that the people of America won’t stand for a fraudulent election, and a fraudulent President, and that he has no choice but to declare martial law.

Once he does, his people will back down, and the people who came out to confront his protesters (liberals, BLM, antifa, teens, etc) will become more violent, appalled by the declaration of martial law, and they will fall into his trap, and rioting and looting will be widespread. He has already primed them to behave that way via his response to Floyd, so we know what they will do.

The military and National guard will be called on to establish order, and there will be open confrontations between the military and the liberal coalition. The individual police and soldiers will think they are there to maintain order, and all the while they will be actually created a dictatorship.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Note that the actual declaration of “martial law” might well come at a later date that I outlined above. His goal early would be to provoke as much violence and looting as possible, which would then justify to the police and military the need for force, and would further justify the declaration of “martial law”.

Herkie
Herkie
3 years ago

Former General and convicted felon Mike Flynn is advocating overthrow of our government by the outgoing loser president, and the loser president says he likes that advice, is considering it.

Why are they not BOTH in Guantanamo awaiting trial by military tribunal right this minute?

When will the world learn that you cannot appease a dictator even if the only alternative is war?

When Hitler took over the German government and passed the Enabling Acts the isles of the Bundestag were lined with Brownshirts to make sure the Nazi minority party “won” the vote to turn Germany into a dictatorship. When the would be dictator this time is trying to use the courts, and if that fails, and it has already, the next step is force.

On another note, russia has been in our most sensitive government and corporate databases for almost a year now, mining them for everything they can, doing untold damage, and act of war by any standards, and they did it so easily it is almost as if they had the passwords to get in. How did Trump’s government not know about this? Or did they not know at all, perhaps they have known, perhaps they have invited the russians in and covered for them. After all by March when this allegedly started it was already pretty clear Trump was not going to win.

Donald Trump is the biggest threat this nation has ever known. He intentionally botched the Covid response and even called for the widest possible intentional infection via our own kids, he tanked the economy and in four years added over $8 trillion to the national debt, any claim that he ran even a half decent economy which he inherited from Obama is patently false, you too could have run just as good or better of an economy if you could create more than $2 trillion per year out of thin air. Reminder, Obama started his presidency stuck with Bush’s final year budget of $1.2 trillion deficit and a global financial collapse. At the time that was a record year for new debt, he finished 8 years later with a deficit between 5 and 600 billion. Trump has added more debt to your bill in 4 years than Obama did in 8 years.

Putin loves this of course since the USA basically killed of the old Soviet Union which Putin so loved, by bankrupting it. He has always been crystal clear about his desire for revenge on the US by crippling us, causing our own collapse, and one of his plans was the great irony of bankrupting the wealthiest nation on the globe. I would say he has succeeded. Whether or not it kills us the way we took down the Soviets is not yet clear, but we cannot survive the onslaught of debt, intentionally mismanaged economy, wildfire pandemic, also intentionally mismanaged, and an election that went as well as possibly can go yet is being screamed from every idiot as rigged, with lost faith in our democratic institutions, our voting, our courts, and our rule of law. All aided and abetted by Moscow Mitch and his GOP that are now prisoner to wild fanatics who are no longer sane.

I would say this will not end well, but it already has not ended well.

I would say I told you so and I did for many years, remember? I left the USA for Australia the week before he was sworn in saying that it would come to this and worse, finally settled in Ireland where I warned this would come when he was in office no more than 4 months.

Now, we play like our duly elected President Elect will make it all better in a month when he is sworn in. I have bad news for you, he will not be sworn in and is likely going to be arrested and held incognito by Trump because Trump himself has said he is going to be sworn in for a second term (a permanent term at that). You did not believe me then, so I wonder if you are starting to believe me now, or at least believe Trump.

All he needs to pull it off is the help of sympathetic forces in our military who will follow his orders, and they in turn will arrest those who refuse for mutiny. If he needs them he also would have russian forces he can call upon to maintain order at gunpoint in the cities, which are mostly blue anyway. Only once there are russian boots on the ground with guns pointed at Americans they are going to be following Putin’s orders not Trumps, the take over of the US will be complete.

I have a Casandra Complex about it all and hate to bear bad news, but all you have to do when it comes to Donald Trump is imagine the worst possible outcomes and bingo, you will be right, well half right because it will always actually be worse than you could have imagined.

This is why I have my EU/Irish passport handy at all times and the address to the nearest Irish consulate in my glovebox, along with enough cash to get there. Because when the USA ends I am not going to fight, I am too old and I know that battling 40 million insane Nazis is not a winning proposition. Especially when they are backed by 80 million apathetic non voters who just don’t care.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

Trump is too incompetent and the system is holding. We are just lucky it’s only one term doesn’t mean it won’t get dicey over the next month

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

I’m not too worried about an attempt on 2020. I’m worried about the next attempt.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

How was living in Ireland as an expat? I too am looking at options.

Herkie
Herkie
3 years ago

LW: I remembered Ireland from the 80’s and it just is not the same now. You might as well be living in any city in the EU with TV haven taken over people’s lives. The largest seller in most pubs is Coors Lite (YUK).

And there are some quirks I did not understand as a visitor that you find out fast as a resident. They stop treating you like a appreciated guest when you are permanent. I was harassed by neighbors below my apartment who I was very careful to not offend with noise, but they were insane drunks/drug addicts and dealers, with riots in the courtyard at 3 in the morning, ambulances arriving, and some woman screamed at me I did not belong in her country, which of course I had as much right to be there as that hoe did, my father was born 20 miles from my apartment.

The Irish government is actually a welfare program in so far as not one of them has any apparent duties.

The National Health Service is an absolute DISGRACE!

Housing is more expensive there than here, at least in towns, I did see some older farm houses for not bad rents, but jebus you HAVE to have a car and you can drive for a year on your American license but after that you are considered a new (and restricted) driver starting from scratch. Then a year as a learner driver. With insurance to match.

There is a 24% VAT built into the price of everything you spend money on, goods and services.

The people are attractive and I still had a lot of fun, there is a lot of charm there, but it felt more like a tourist trap than a community, and a lot of people hard up blame tourists for their poverty.

I suppose overall I would recommend it for a year or so, but go into it as a trail stay rather than throwing all in so you HAVE to stay.

Oh and utilities, electric especially, about 4 times the price I was paying in Oregon.

Lots of homeless and drug problems. The Guarda is a national joke, seriously, they all joke about the cops.

There was a day in May when it was sunny and about 80* (F) and that was summer. Literally there was only one other sunny day and that one was somewhat cold and windy.

At least the food has vastly improved over the 80’s.

Herkie
Herkie
3 years ago

I should have qualified my reply, I was not there as an expat but as an Irish citizen. My father was from near Athlone.

brian henry
brian henry
3 years ago
Reply to  Herkie

When Biden becomes US President, he will resign within 2 years and you will deserve what you vote for, and don’t complain:
1. By February 2021, an army of caravan from South America will hit US border, ACLU will fight for them so you all can pay.
2. China will flood US with poor quality, toxic products for you to eat, use and get sick earlier as Hunter already got his payment.
3. All the Democrat politicians will pocket a lot of political contributions and left businesses like Facebook even control, manipulate and monopolize their domain
with support from Democrat politicians.
4. The US white collar unemployment will go up when H1B from India, China and many countries will replace them, so more debts to fund bigger stimulus.
Just a few, you will get what you vote for, and don’t complain !

Lance Manly
Lance Manly
3 years ago

Trump can bring the crazy like no other. Once he declares martial law, then Special Council Sydney Powel can get to the bottom of things. The national security advisor is participating in this crap? Maybe the whole Trump coup thing is not just for the tin foil hat crowd.

“According to the person familiar with Friday’s meeting, the animated gathering featured yelling and screaming, with the lawyers often accusing each other of failing to sufficiently support the president’s efforts. Flynn and Powell both said they needed the Trump administration to do more to support their efforts to reverse President-elect Joe Biden’s win. Giuliani and Powell also turned their ire on each other. The source said National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien, a successor to Flynn, participated by phone.”

I find it hard to believe that the Cuch turned down the request

“Giuliani also has urged top Department of Homeland Security official Ken Cuccinelli to confiscate voting machines, a request Cuccinelli has turned down because he lack the authority to do so, according to a person familiar with the discussions.”


Herkie
Herkie
3 years ago
Reply to  Lance Manly

What is with the slightly updated Nazi SS uniform she is wearing?

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago

Looks like Trump considering martial law. Is the Russian hack of government a bug or a feature ?

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

when rudy, cipolone and meadows are the guard rails we’ve truly gone into the world of the bizarre

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago

I admit that I have TPS, but the only reason I can see for encouraging riots on 1/6/20 is to test his support for a coup.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
3 years ago

@Mish As someone who finds Trump-speak easy to understand and who is amused by those who either can not or will not understand Trump-speak, this seems to be yet another Trump-speak thing.

There is a big difference between “Be there, will be wild” and “wild protest”. The former is “wild” in the sense of a fun-loving family’s upcoming get-together at the lake. The latter … well, golly-gee-willikers, the easily suggestible of us near DC can go loot some stores!

Now, let’s just put on our thinking caps, here, and take a wild guess which of these meanings Trump meant.

CaliforniaStan
CaliforniaStan
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish

Trump speak has two messages, so he can’t be blamed. But then, sometimes like when he congratulated Xi on becoming President for life, and said maybe he should try it….it gets excused as a “joke.” Pretty easy to make a “wild guess” when he was talking with Flynn about declaring martial law. Yes, as usual. Trump speak. Plausible deniability.

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish

People in leadership positions are expected to say what they mean and not leave open to interpretation whether its ok to riot or have a beer bash.

Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago

The easiest way to shut Trump up is to prosecute him for the many crimes he has committed or participated in and throw his sorry ass in jail.

Joe Biden said during the campaign that he would not pardon Trump. I’m hoping that Biden doesn’t try and weasel out of this promise.

Biden pledges not to pardon Trump
The former vice president described the president’s actions as a “prostitution” of his office.
05/15/2020 09:47 AM EDT

Centaro
Centaro
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

Joe Biden you mean that “Big Guy”? What crimes has Trump committed? Bush falsely got us into a war with Iraq. Obama “Arab Spring” and Russiagate. ????

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Centaro

aprnext
aprnext
3 years ago

Interesting paradox here: Trump is a concomitant liar…..and he’s the only one telling the truth.

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  aprnext

concomitant–naturally accompanying or associated ??

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  aprnext

It’s not really a paradox. It’s quite deliberate.

You tell your supporters that only you know the truth and that everyone else that disagrees is fake news.

It’s insidious, really.

Avery
Avery
3 years ago

Suspects in the shootings include statues of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, John C. Calhoun and John Wilkes Booth.

Avery
Avery
3 years ago

Halfway through this weekend:
Friday 12/18
1:05p 2000 E 71st, South Shore, M/18
1:05p 2000 E 71st, South Shore, M/ 24
1:30p 11300 S Harvard, Roseland, M/18
2:20p Mag Mile Continues To Go To Shit
2:35p 9700 S Avenue N, East Side, M/22
9:40p 11200 S Homewood, Morgan Park, M/36
11:10p 2400 W Roosevelt, Near West Side, M/22
Saturday 12/19
12:25a 3200 W Cermak, Little Village, F/38
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, M/28
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, M/32
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, F/36
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, M/41
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, M/48
12:25a 8900 S Cottage Grove, Chatham, M/48
3:00a 1300 W 87th, Auburn Gresham, M/47
4:00a 300 N Avers, Garfield Park, M/30
6:40a 4700 S Justine, New City, M/57
1:50p 4700 W Lexington, Austin, M/36
3:20p 3400 W Walnut, Garfield Park, M/35
3:40p 6800 S Cornell, South Shore, M/23
5:25p 1200 S Washtenaw, North Lawndale, M/19
6:45p 6500 S Cottage Grove, Woodlawn, M/43

Anon1970
Anon1970
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery

If you think heavy duty Chicago crime only occurs in the ghettos, read here: link to cwbchicago.com

Avery
Avery
3 years ago

Chicago year to date:
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 691
Shot & Wounded: 3378
Total Shot: 4069
Total Homicides: 762

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery

So.. don’t move to Chicago?

Anon1970
Anon1970
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery

It looks like you are a big fan of the heyjackass.com website.

QTPie
QTPie
3 years ago

The crazy thing is that even when a judge is willing to get past technicalities and let Trump’s lawyers argue fraud in court, they simply won’t do it – even while claiming fraud from every rooftop – everywhere except for in court:

Kimo
Kimo
3 years ago
Reply to  QTPie

From the article: “we’ll just stipulate to all the relevant facts and argue legal principles”. That implies both sides agreed to the facts, thus testimony was not needed. Why would you need testimony? The judge accepts the facts, and judges the legal principles.
Oh, and the problem with filing the complaint before the election, was that there were no damages (yet), thus there was no standing to bring a suit. Latches vs Damages? Yes, there are catch-22s in the legal profession.

Dhgerlach
Dhgerlach
3 years ago

Hey Mish.
I used to enjoy reading your blog. But Your name calling and irrational hatred of Trump has turned me and many of your readers off. Trump has his faults but so do you. An objective commentary is much appreciated, your hyperemotional diatribe is not.

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

Name calling? Irrational?

Thanks for joining to say you’re going.

Seeya!

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

hyperemotional diatribe ?

Snowflake.

Join today to say you’re leaving.

OK, bye!

Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

You can’t admit the truth – Trump is a liar?

I blasted Hillary on many occasions for not admitting the Truth.
Was that OK?

Petroff
Petroff
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Hi Mish, I read your blog since 2009. Tell me who is not a liar? Clinton? Obama? Bush jnr? Kamala?

Dhgerlach
Dhgerlach
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

I am not only referring to the last blog but to others as well. For example your Dec 12 blog on TCS or TPS with a lead picture of ACB with the evil mesmerizing eyes is inappropriate. There are many ardent supporters of Trump, amongst which I am not one( I voted libertarian), who probably were insulted. Similarly insulting was Hillary calling some “a basket oof deplorables” or Obama calling some “clinging to their guns and religion”. Both Hillary and Obama and most liberal(leftists) and “woke” consider themselves intellectually superior and look down on those that disagree with their views.
Some of my friends are Trump haters and others Trump lovers. I don’t see any purpose in joining them in either hating or loving Trump, or for that matter Biden or Obama or Hillary. I do not call them insulting names. That serves no purpose. I encourage objective discussions not to persuade them, but to make them think and hopefully reach their own fact based conclusions. I will not participate in a discussion that becomes emotional or where, at the onset, the purpose is to persuade me.
Virtually all politicians are sociopaths and chronic liars; they are because they will say anything to get elected or reelected. Trump’s tweets are often obviously and blatantly false. He truly believes what he says even when he says the exact opposite a day later; this implies he is out of touch with reality and incapable of objective thought. Other politicians disguise their lies skillfully which is much more devious and dangerous.
My point is to stick to facts, point out fallacies or truths and stop the name calling, which serves no purpose and tends to antagonize. Your blogs that present facts, offer your opinions and challenge the intellect are much more meaningful and informative.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

It is a fact that Trump is a liar.

Dhgerlach
Dhgerlach
3 years ago

Yes he is. But why the need to nominate him for “the liar of the year”? Name calling is never constructive.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

“Name calling is never constructive.”

AshH
AshH
3 years ago

Brutal. No coming back from that.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago

Ouch!

Dhgerlach
Dhgerlach
3 years ago

Like I said, name calling is never constructive. Why lower yourself to that level?

Rogue_One
Rogue_One
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

“Irrational hatred” ?!? …

of a treasonous, unstable, narcissist whose seditious rheteroric has destabilized democracy in the world.

Sort out your meds and get on the right side of reality.

manfredkeeting
manfredkeeting
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

Bravo, Dhegerlach!

manfredkeeting
manfredkeeting
3 years ago
Reply to  Dhgerlach

Bravo, Dhergerlach

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

The Kraken submitted this statistical evidence to the courts where it quickly went no where. Remember SPYDER? Well Republican appointed judges were too smart so Trump decided to target social media and his followers.

Not totally unrelated but Lou Dobbs had a very unusual segment where he debunked every false claim against one of the voting software companies and the Whitehouse legal team instructed all parties to preserve documents. I guess people have had enough of Trump’s conspiracy theories involving Hugo Chavez and George Soros

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

Smartmatic

Lance Manly
Lance Manly
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

They threatened to sue Dobbs.

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

Dobb’s knows his crowd, but he also knows that highly publicized unsubstantiated attacks on reputation can be costly when they are false.

Left Coaster
Left Coaster
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

Part of the reason COULD be the letters some networks are receiving from lawyers representing voting machine/software companies warning them of up coming defamation lawsuits.

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Left Coaster

This is exactly what defamation lawsuits are for; people are destroying the business for these companies, and they better be able to prove it.

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