Time Has Nearly Expired on Trump’s Legal Challenges

Clock About to Run Out

Joe Biden will become president on Wednesday, January 20. 

Meanwhile, Trump’s lawyers make futile challenges. 

Key Dates

  • December 8: Safe Harbor Deadline: This is the date by which state governors must name the electors and certified the election results with the state’s official seal.
  • December 14: Electors Vote: By law, electors meet and vote on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December of presidential election years. This year the date is December 14.
  • December 23: Votes delivered to the Senate and the electors’ job is over. 
  • January 6:  The Senate and House of Representatives will meet in joint session to count the electors’ votes and declare the winners. 
  • January 20: The President and Vice President named by Congress will be inaugurated.

Note that electors will be named on December 8. That is the date on which time expires. 

If you engage in fantasies, perhaps you believe time runs out on December 14 or later. 

Breaking Silliness

There are many similar Tweets as well as Tweets regarding voting machines in Georgia and other states.

Laugh at all of them.

Note that Alito gave Pennsylvania until December 9. That’s an effective punt given the Safe Harbor Date is December 8.

On December 8, all of these cases will be moot. 

Mish

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Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

I continue to be gobsmacked at the pure idiocy of Scott Adams. He continues to make false allegations , claims that dozens of judges have said were not supported by fact and law, but what’s more his proposed remedy is to deny and invalidate the votes of millions of Americans. And what’ is Scott Adams claim to legitimacy? That he drew a popular comic strip?

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago

Others hear echoes from the East, recalling autocrats in the far reaches of the former Soviet Union barricading themselves in presidential palaces while furiously spinning out enemies-of-the-people propaganda to justify holding onto power after popular uprisings.

Alina Polyakova, the president of the Center for European Policy Analysis and a Russia scholar, said Trump reminded her of President Vladimir Putin, who has largely withdrawn from view recently amid public discontent in the late stages of an aging regime.

“Both also seem to be living in alternate realities surrounded only by those who confirm those realities,” she said. “But whereas one brooder will weather a slow and long decline, the other is increasingly facing a rapid decline and scrambling to do what he can to save his family and loyalists — and of course himself.”

goldguy
goldguy
3 years ago

Maybe a little more time…

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  goldguy

The scheduling order means any ruling from the Supreme Court is all but certain to come too late for Kelly to block the election results in Pennsylvania and have fellow Republican President Donald Trump declared the winner in the state over Democrat Joe Biden.

njbr
njbr
3 years ago
Reply to  goldguy

What-another guy whodoesn’t know how to use a calendar?

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

Those trump experts. Good read in the legal filing

QTPie
QTPie
3 years ago

The Kraken has turned out to be just a smelly fish.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  QTPie

aka Sid Powell

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  QTPie

I was hoping for at least a bottle of Kraken Rum. This is worst Kraken ever.

Lance Manly
Lance Manly
3 years ago

He is not going to go easy, even with giving himself federal pardons (50-50 chance of holding up), he going to be spending some serious time defending himself at the state level. Then there are the loans and taxes. Just when you think it is over he brings the crazy like no other.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again
3 years ago

You think Trump is disappointed? I think everyone will be.

The positive emotional rush of removing Trump will be followed by the downer of understanding the hole the country is in. A hole that is becoming deeper & darker by the day.

I don’t see anything but pain, potentially made worse by the very politicians/politics people spend their time debating over the legitimacy and capability of.

Its not just US, its UK too, and elsewhere.

The next 5-10 years are not going to be pretty and all most leaders can do is distract the plebs until it passes, make people feel cared for even if its a false security.

The forces in play are intensifying and we are not through the worst of it yet, by any means. Biden/Harris will make little difference, hence the disappointment to come.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again
3 years ago

Trump will thank his lucky stars he lost.
Seriously.
I’ve thought for a while, whoever wins this time will regret it.
Shit show on steroids.

JG1170
JG1170
3 years ago

My comment was censored due to too much truth it seems.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
3 years ago
Reply to  JG1170

Or lack of proof. Whichever.

Lance Manly
Lance Manly
3 years ago
Reply to  JG1170

Assume it is the spam filter, it happens. Try rewriting the post, a bit of a pain but better than having the readers bombed with spam.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  JG1170

#TRUMP4GASENATE

Mish
Mish
3 years ago

The media did not cost Trump the election – Trump did.
He now sounds as bad as Hillary – Blame everyone but himself

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Good point. He sounds exactly like Hillary.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Trump’s spent his lifetime playing the victim. The country didn’t know him in 2016 and he was an outsider so enough people bought it but four years later he tried it again and it rang hollow. Hillary did nothing remotely close. She even conceded less than 24 hours after the election . Trump played drama queen and used the loss as a giant grift.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Hillary conceded the day after Election Day. Trump a month later says he was cheated. They don’t sound exactly the same. The false equivalence is not good for anything.

Mish
Mish
3 years ago

Hillary conceded but she blamed everyone but herself.

The point was not the concession but the blame.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

She may not be completely wrong. Let’s see the unredacted Senate Intelligence Report on the 2016 election. Last week, the The Director of National Intelligence was asked in an interview what country was responsible for sowing discord in the 2020 election and he said they have the evidence but could not say whom at the moment. Trump is seeking to uncover methods of intelligence used in the 2016 election by the US government. To me every day goes by, it is becoming clear that the interference in the 2016 election cost her the presidency. We may never know or we may know on January 21st.

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Hillaray made mistakes but one can’t discount entirely the impact Comey had on the election. Poll numbers did move after Comey’s actioss .

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Something unusual happened. People voted Republican but did not want Trump. Biden won by a landslide. Over 500 bps advantage in the popular vote and he carried 306 electoral votes far more than the 270 required. This election was about Trump. They wanted him gone.

I don’t think it could have gone any other way. Trump was never capable of being the President the country needed. He thought it was a p.r. job. He golfed every weekend, largely ignored the greatest health crisis of the past 100 years and proved over and over to be a demagogue.

Telenochek82
Telenochek82
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Let’s not blame Hillary alone. Yes she had some weaknesses as a candidate, but she won the popular vote. Her campaign did not pay sufficient attention to specific battleground states and she lost by small margins. Oh yeah, let’s not forget Comey and his investigation timing right smack down in the middle of election.

Telenochek82
Telenochek82
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

This whole comparison of Hillary to Trump is ridiculous and is designed to serve Trump base some sour red meat. The two are not even in the same ballpark. After Trump we’re going to have to write a bunch of government traditions into law to ensure they can’t be ignored again.

vegasandre
vegasandre
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish

Everyone including you, know Trump won in a Landslide..please stop the BS you are spewing.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2
3 years ago

“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”

DonaldSugg
DonaldSugg
3 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2

Uh, the Germans?

Gator Break
Gator Break
3 years ago
Reply to  DonaldSugg

Just let it go, he’s on a roll. (AH ref)

Saunders62
Saunders62
3 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2

From 1941 with John Belushi.

footwedge
footwedge
3 years ago
Reply to  Saunders62

Try “Animal House”

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago

Actually California certified early. Biden has 279 certified votes. This puts the safe harbor provision into play now. It’s game over.

Anda
Anda
3 years ago
Reply to  Sechel

“Likewise, federal courts could become involved in the counting of ballots cast by citizens in presidential elections prior to the day on which the electors meet. The Supreme Court itself may become involved insofar as issues of federal law are raised by the way the state courts handle their own involvement in these cases.”

Election Risk Assessment and Management Loyola University Chicago Law Journal Volume 51 Issue 2 Winter 2019 Article 3 2019 Preparing for a Disputed Presidential Election: An Exercise in Election Risk Assessment and Management Edward B. Foley

Sechel
Sechel
3 years ago
Reply to  Anda

this is not going to happen. Trump was repeatedly denied standing to bring such a case and the clock has run out. and are we really going to discuss laches again?

Of course Trump was entitled to his recounts, they were done and the results did not change. Perhaps you mean something else such as trying to change the rules an not count mail in ballots etc but then we have laches again and of course there is Purcell.

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago

Meal Team Six could spring into action any time now… keep an eye out for fat,bearded guys…

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz

You must be talking about those very fine people.

Anda
Anda
3 years ago

Is Dec. 8 federal ? At

Under the tab “Contested election deadlines” most states are “unspecified”.

I don’t see how anyone is able to arbitrarily set a date for resolution by which time contests must be finished and after which the contest becomes invalid, because investigation of evidence and depth of any fraud is not going to just conveniently obey to that timeframe. In fact placing a timeframe encourages those against the contest to delay and not serve a proper resolution.

Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Anda

Dec 14 is a specified date

Avery
Avery
3 years ago

There hasn’t been any allegations of vote fraud in Illinois for decades. Most of the people are genuinely stupid, no dispute.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery

Surely 90% of trumps blind fawning acolytes are unaware Team Trump has leveled zero fraud allegations under oath. You can get a fraud verdict without even making the accusation under oath!

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  Avery
  • cannot get a fraud verict. Woe is me
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
3 years ago

Three more days til the 8th……sure looking forward to the end of all this denial, sour grapes, and delusional attempts to reverse the election.

Forty-seven more days of a Trump Presidency is way too many to suit me.

Trump will probably pardon himself, Rudy, Bernie Maddoff, and maybe the Son of Sam…..and anybody else who will give a million bucks to the soon-to-be-announced Trump Foundation II.

(You might remember the courts made him dissolve the prior Trump Foundation for misusing funds.)

Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

We’ll see. Who here remembers Ray Blanton?

njbr
njbr
3 years ago

Will we see “justice via other means”?

Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  njbr

The Gravy Seals are preparing even now…

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
3 years ago
Reply to  njbr

Not to mention the dress up militia Boy Scouts of America.

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