What’s Trump’s next act? This Act is Over.
In a fatal blow to Trump, Pennsylvania, Nevada Certify Biden Election Win.
- Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar certified Biden’s 80,555-vote victory in Pennsylvania, which was announced in tweet by Democratic Governor Tom Wolf.
- Nevada’s Supreme Court also certified the state’s results on Tuesday and Democratic Governor Steve Sisolak will issue a proclamation declaring the winner of the state’s six Electoral College votes.
- Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani has said the case should be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority. Trump has said his goal is to “decertify” the state’s results one way or another.
“Universal” Realization It’s Over
The Wall Street Journal reports After Setbacks, Trump Looks Beyond Legal Fight
Privately, even the few advisers to the president who had argued he still had a shot over the last week now largely concede he has no path to victory, aides say.
There is “universal realization” among White House staff, said another person close to the administration: “It’s over.”
Administration officials say, the president’s focus appears to have broadened. In private conversations, he has polled advisers on what he should do next, musing about how he can stay relevant in the media and in the Republican Party and how he can earn money.
He has repeatedly expressed interest in running for president again in 2024, which some advisers have urged him to do as a way to save face, telling him he can decide whether to follow through later.
While there are just a handful of people left urging the president to keep up the legal fight—among them, Mr. Giuliani—there are equally few people telling him to end it, administration officials and people close to the White House say.
“Everybody’s trying to straddle the fence and avoid him flipping out,” said one official.
Meaning of “Universal”
“Universal realization” were the words of the White House staff according to the Wall Street Journal.
Some will question the statement. But that is much like the Flat Earth Society denying the world is round.
There is always a group of deniers of nearly anything.
Fact Check #1
Fact Check: You are a liarhttps://t.co/ivEEjd9L0R https://t.co/ZJB9AGescD
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) November 25, 2020
Fact Check #2
Still lying and will do so to his grave.
The Rules “Any registered Wisconsin voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.”
If you are going to blatantly lie at least make it sound plausible.https://t.co/VaCACrBtY7 https://t.co/iJ751CTG6Z
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) November 25, 2020
Getting to the Bottom of Things
Then again. It appears to be there already.
— Mike “Mish” Shedlock (@MishGEA) November 25, 2020
What About the Supreme Court?
Some delusional fans still believe the Supreme Court will decide this.
It won’t.
And as I suggested all along, the Supreme Court is unlikely to even hear most of these cases if any at all.
The Third Circuit did allow late arriving ballots to be counted. That can be appealed to the Supreme Court and, if the Court hears it, perhaps it would reverse the Third Circuit.
But the Supreme Court might not step in on the basis that the controversy does not make a difference in the ultimate result.
Denial of Writ of Certiorari
What I describe above is called denial of writ of certiorari because the case is moot, that is, the Supreme Court will refuse to take the case because decision will make no difference in the outcome of the election.
Given that Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, and Nevada have all certified Biden as winner, it is increasingly likely none of these cases ever get heard by the Supreme Court.
Mish
The mail in balloting corrupted the entire election, add to that a blown UP pandemic scare that continues and you can control the masses.
You appear to have to work very hard to maintain this level of stupidity. Imagine what you could do if you put that effort into something productive?
Not at OAN, Newsmax and Breitbart.
Biden won, sure. But it doesn’t mean we need to accept the terrible things that happened during this election. Shutting out observers is borderline criminal, bad rules on identification is another.
We need confidence in our system, now is as good of a time as ever to fix it.
Finally!! It sounds like someone with TCD is finally in the road to recovery…
All the president’s debts: to whom Donald Trump owes money
Debts of more than $1bn are tied to the Covid-struck commercial real estate market
link to ft.com.
The situation is made more pressing for the US president because his primary source of income in recent years — his work on television — “is drying up”, according to an investigation by The New York Times. Citing the president’s tax filings, the Times also said much of that income was invested in golf courses that are money losers. So while the president is asset-rich, it is unclear how much liquidity he has access to. The Trump Organization declined to comment.
The president’s creditors can be broken into five groups.
Trump owes $447m as part of his partnership with Vornado Realty Trust, on towers in New York and San Francisco
Mr Trump owns 30 per cent of 1290 Avenue of the Americas in New York City and 555 California Street in San Francisco, giving him a pro-rata share of the $1.5bn debt on the two buildings, which comes due over the next two years. The debt is owed by the partnership, not Mr Trump himself, but changes to the value of the debt, or any default, would directly affect his equity value in the buildings. The loan on 1290 Avenue of the Americas was initially made by Deutsche Bank, UBS, Goldman Sachs and the state-owned Bank of China, but they sold it into the bond market in 2012, as a commercial mortgage-backed security. The mortgage on 555 California Street is held by US insurers Met Life and Pacific Life, the companies said. It expires next September, according to filings from Vornado.*
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California Street is a 1.8m square foot office complex, and while the income from the property was down 5 per cent in the second quarter of this year, it is 99 per cent occupied, according to filings from Vornado. 1290 is a 2.1m sq ft office and retail tower in Midtown Manhattan; Vornado’s latest filings do not provide up-to-date occupancy figures for it.
link to ft.com.
The value of each building has probably taken a hit during the Covid-19 crisis. Office real estate prices have fallen 5 per cent and 13 per cent from a year ago in San Francisco and New York, respectively, according to Green Street, a real estate research group.
The banks that originated these mortgages sold them to a CMBS trust, bundling them with other loans and transforming them into tradable debt securities. A servicer is responsible for collecting payments from borrowers. Should borrowers fail to make a payment, a special servicer steps in to get the borrower paying again or foreclose. It is these debt collectors that could be crucial should Mr Trump’s properties fall into arrears.
In total, there are four Trump properties, all in New York, split across six CMBS deals, according to data from Trepp. Most are office buildings and condominiums. The largest is a $100m loan on Trump Tower, at 725 Fifth Avenue, which accounts for just over 10 per cent of a 2012 deal packaged by Wells Fargo.
link to ft.com.
However, one loan — the $6.5m mortgage on the Trump International Hotel at 1 Central Park West, New York — has been flagged as being at risk after income on the property dropped dramatically. The property has two tenants, a parking garage and the now-closed Triomphe Restaurant. Should the property slip further, it will be passed to its special servicer, Midland Loan Services, part of PNC. Midland declined to comment.
Mr Trump’s biggest bank lender has financed his hotels in Chicago and Washington, and his Miami golf resort.
According to Mr Trump’s tax returns, disclosed by The New York Times, both National Doral in Miami and the International Hotel in Washington have generated big losses. The Doral suffered $162m in losses between 2012 and 2018, and the Washington hotel lost $55.5m between 2016, when it opened, and 2018.
All of the loans are between $5m and $25m. Most do not mature within the next four years. Two of them are mortgages on Trump family properties, in the New York suburbs and in Palm Beach, Florida; two are on Trump golf courses in New Jersey and Washington, DC; and one, which matures this year, is on a residential tower in Midtown Manhattan.
The New York apartment market has experienced a 17 per cent price decline this year, according to Green Street.
link to ft.com.
This debt is mysterious. The trust is a corporation owned by DJT Holdings LLC — that is, Donald J Trump. Mr Trump appears to owe the money to himself. Asked about this unusual arrangement by The New York Times in 2016, Mr Trump said: “I have the mortgage. That is all there is. Very simple. I am the bank.” But he is the debtor, too, and it is not a typical mortgage; it is a “springing loan”, meaning it only comes due under specific conditions — typically a credit event such as a decline in credit rating. It has been suggested that this arrangement could be part of a tax avoidance strategy.
Additional reporting by Laura Noonan in New York
*This story has been amended to reflect post-publication reporting on the creditors on the loans on 1290 Avenue of the Americas in New York and 555 California Street in San Francisco
A way out of the debts.
Sell pardons.
There are 200K federal prisoners. At $10K/pardon that is $2G. Huge.
Then there is El Chapo. What could Fat Donnie charge El Chapo for a pardon? $200-$400M?
With a modicum of effort, Donnie Fatso could easily raise $500+M in “campaign contributions”. After all, Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich in exchange for money.
you Trump’s accountant now ?
He is just the bookkeeper..
Trump’s real benefits and large part of his fortune are safely guarded in…..RUSSIA ! Didn t you know then ?
“What’s Trump’s next act?”
It’s a question worth worrying about…..
His first order of business is to get paid a lot…..and that hasn’t been a problem for ex-presidents in modern times…..the Clinton Foundation being the obvious example of how ex-Presidents and their families can make serious bank in a variety of dubious ways.
He probably sees himself as the ongoing leader of his “base”…..the Neo-Know-Nothings, they should call themselves…I’m sure he can keep them riled. He isn’t a deep thinker, but he can be the mouthpiece who repeats the lies of guys like Steve Bannon…..
His TV show is the only way he really made money over the past several many years……the real estate empire is all leverage and smoke and mirrors….I’m sure he wants a media career of some kind….
He’s probably doing some version, at this moment, of wearing a sign that says “Will Pretend to Work On TV For Billions Of Dollars”.
The best thing that could happen is for some of his many crimes to be successfully prosecuted, so that he can no longer vie for office. Or a heart attack…but one has to have a heart for that to happen, his kind of Golem lives forever.
I’m thinking Pompeo will take over for Trump in the next election cycle…him or Cruz…..Pence…….one of those. I really doubt Trump could be elected again……but then I was fairly stunned at how well he did this time…in spite of having done nothing all that great for anybody but himself and his cronies……and lying (and being called out for it) every day of his tenure.
It looks like we have ongoing crazy conspiracy theories being believed by enough people to swing an election….as part of our future from now on. People simply lack the most rudimentary skills to be able to tell truth from pure bullshit. Welcome to Idiocracy in the 2020’s. We’re here.
Next Act: Jail would be nice.
…In a national news release, the campaign for President Donald Trump (via Guiliana and Ellis) announced there would be legislative hearings in Michigan and other states across the country next week to examine the results of the 2020 election.
The problem: Michigan lawmakers say there are no election hearings next week….Representatives for state House and Senate leadership confirmed Wednesday there will not be any hearings on the election next week.
“We were trying to get (Giuliani) to appear in person to testify. We couldn’t logistically make it work. I’ve asked him to submit his written testimony, and we’ll review it,” said Rep. Matt Hall, an Emmett Township Republican and chairman of the House Oversight Committee. ….
….Lawmakers in Arizona also appear to have been caught unawares by the Trump announcement, according to the Arizona Republic. “News to me,” Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, told the Republic replied when asked about plans for a hearing….
….It appeared that a hearing may happen in Pennsylvania, as soon as Wednesday. Axios and others report Trump planned to go with Giuliani to the meeting; the hearing will not change the results of the election in the state, won by Biden. Although the White House press pool had planned to accompany Trump to Pennsylvania, pool reports Wednesday morning indicated the trip was cancelled…
The ‘hearing’ will be a bunch of trumplings tearing their hair an wailing about the unfairness of it all.
Just….a bunch of loosers..
I feel if your defense in court is your show is “political theater” you should be required to disclose that to your viewing audience.
And yet this wing nut keeps moving all over, and campaigning for his candidates in whatever place he’s living, the ones can’t ever win unless the military and the corporations let them…by controlling the voting machines.
Why bother, you doofus? If the outcomes are all rigged, why have you been busy as a bee campaigning since 1988?
Guess what…..only eight states still have any machines that don’t mark some kind of paper ballot. For instance, the machines here print your choices and you can examine your paper ballot for accuracy yourself before it gets scanned….and the paper ballot remains as proof, ready to be hand-counted if necessary.
Anybody can say anything, can’t they?….and some greater fool will believe him if it suits the story they like.
Pick your election fantasy.
Biden Didn’t Steal The Election From Trump!
The US military and it’s faithful corporate minions stole the election from the American people! link to lloydhart.substack.com
LOL. No one stole anything. People voted and votes were counted and reported. If you don’t want a military or corporations, you will have to find a different planet to live on.
Sounds like TCD is making people point the finger in different directions.
Think it’s time to revisit Black Water. After all, if that’s the best one can come up with when the Clinton’s commit crimes in plain site (Ex: Hillary approving arms sales to nations donating to her foundation which didn’t even recuse herself from while Sec of State) what can one honestly hope for?
…Can any rough guide to winners and losers in the year of Covid-19 be drawn up at this stage? America and Britain are both bad losers: Trump and Johnson had been divisive and demagogic before the epidemic struck, but when it did strike it dramatically exposed the dysfunctional nature of their governments and their personal inability to deal with a real crisis. This sense of chronic breakdown is exacerbated in the US by Trump’s fraudulent claims to have won the presidential election, giving a toxic foretaste of a permanently divided and destabilised America.
For Britain the post-Covid-19 and post-Brexit future looks even bleaker than in the US. The latter is a superpower that can make gross mistakes in a way that Britain, as a smaller player, cannot afford to do.
Britain’s final exit from the EU was always going to be difficult, but coronavirus means that it is entering a particularly forbidding political landscape. Brexit in itself is not so peculiar: many nations have sought self-determination, propelled by dreams of getting back control, but Britain has traditionally relied on foreign alliances in war and peace. It has stood alone, notably against Napoleon and Hitler, only because its allies had been defeated and it had no other option.
Britain will try to re-glue its relationship with the US and Europe by becoming a doughty spear carrier for both in the deepening cold war against Russia and China. This explains Johnson’s £16bn increase in the defence budget over the next four years, despite the calamitous damage inflicted on the economy by the epidemic. Gestures like this and a bit of threat-inflation solidify alliances, but they are scarcely an original strategy: Tony Blair tried a similar approach with disastrous results by joining US military ventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Britain is facing one of the most serious crises in its history under the least serious leadership it has ever known. The Brexiteers turned out to be a bigger danger than Brexit. Every week brings fresh evidence of their blunders, shady dealings and blindness to the dangers of a deglobalising world in which Britain will be a small fish trying to navigate the political oceans.
By way of Brexit, the UK pretty much has no choice but to become even more of a US vassal ……the EU now becomes that half-crazy bad neighbor who will always be making trouble, impossible to get along with, because it’s an organization run by committees of self-important bureaucratic stuffed shirts.
Almost every country is going to suffer economically due to COVID…..but the ones that managed it best will, of course, suffer least in the short run.
China will come out okay in the short run……but they have serious long term problems that have nothing to do with COVID…..
The thing about the US…is that we lose some GDP and we bury a lot of dead….but on the other side of COVID we still have the energy supply…..the capital…. and the consumer base to rebuild…..we do not have to depend on exports….
It is the countries that depend heavily on exports…..China, Korea, Germany….and countries that depend on foreign oil….China, Korea, Germany….that will have a hard time…because consumer demand is going to be a lot less in most places going forward. And the US is going to continue to be less interested in maintaining a global alliance like the one we’ve had since the late 1940’s.
Without the US military as the big stick to keep the world’s ancient tribal and religious cross-currents from sparking regional wars and screwing up trade…..many very prosperous countries are going to find themselves in deep doodoo.
With respect Eddie, France has always been a half-crazy bad neighbour who will always be making trouble, impossible to get along with, because it’s an organization run by committees of self-important bureaucratic stuffed shirts. Plus ca change …
When you have a selfish, ignorant base supporting a selfish, ignorant man whose campaign is heavily in debt, you have to continue scamming them out of their money as Trump is doing.
If he starts a mega church, he’ll be unstoppable.
Don’t give them any ideas pls.
Bring back Trump University with shinier buildings…and promises of the new CEO degree… With Ivanka at the helm..
so it’s ILLEGITIMATE JOE and BIG CORRUPTION from obama/clinton live on
WE’RE GONNA MOVE FASTER INTO OBLIVION so GREAT RESET(new world order) can begin
this DAVOS folks need to be held accountable like FRENCH DID
Good line from an article this morning. The answer is “Yes, you threw away every opportunity to win against a weak opponent.”
“I don’t get it,” the president said, venting confusion and frustration. “All these other Republicans, all over the country, they all win their races. And I’m the only guy that loses?”
The US is a country that is, in majority, moderate in their political outlook. The continued presence of Republicans throught the legislative structure is proof of that. Too far left or too far right are the eception in law-makers.
Thrump interject a new layer of crazy into the process, and while party affiliation matter, crazy also matters deeply to many people.
You know its gone way past absurd when the lawyers start quoting from the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition sketch
When you donate to the fund that fights to over-turn the election according to the latest filing 75% now goes to Trump’s post-election PAC. It’s a giant grift
Russian President Vladimir Putin has wasted no time in seizing on US President Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories about the 2020 election to boost Russia’s strategic goals.
…..and Putin is damn right in ALL aspects ! Btw, maybe Putin will congratulate Biden when outrageous, unjustified sanctions against Russia are being lifted ….The Biden administration, warmongers bunch will most likely continue meddling and messing in our backyard and frontyard in places that should be NONE of their fckn business, like Ukraine, Libya and Syria for example!
Could you be more obvious on who is controlling you. But, then maybe that is your purpose.
Putin is a sick man hanging on to power in Moscow Central. He can not hand power off to a weak puppet like Medvedev who is to weak to protect Putin from his enemies in the Oligarch and Security Services. Putin cannot hand power over to someone in the Security Services who is powerful enough to , let us put it politely, put Putin away with Putin’s favorite assassination tool, poison. This is because Putin will continue to try to influence the FSB. My projection is that Putin will cling to power till he takes his last breath. It is his only real option for staying alive. Oh to be Yeltsin, who appointed Putin, and left with his stolen funds and his stash of Vodka. Of course, Yeltsin, had no power at that point and was just a harmless old pensioner that no one worried about.
When you donate to Trump’s fund to fight to over-turn the results
Those donations are going to the Trump Gulfing Fund.
Universal … except 75 million Americans don’t believe you Mitch. Powell files the Kraken today against Georgia, and she seems pretty confident. Either she is seriously deluded, or genuinely has something. I will go by whatever judgement is eventually given, but given she seems to be taking on the entire US government machine and swimming against the tide, I have serious doubts it will come to much. Either way, no one can deny her right to question the result WITH EVIDENCE and on behalf of YOU THE PEOPLE. In her own words lets see how the chips fall.
75M ? No serious person believes 100% of Trump voters voted for him rather than the party. Trump wouldn’t garner enough votes to win a single state as an indepedent which is why he hijacked the Republican party.
And please give Mish the respect he deserve by at least typing his name right. He deserves way more.
Apologies, that was a typo. Not ‘virtue signalling’ you appear to be so expert at.
“tc” and “s” are nowhere near each on a keyboard. GMAFB. No one believes your typo unless it was autocorrect.
Autocorrect.
You’re pushing a childish fantasy, wake up. It’s easy to feel sorry for Q people on some level, but wanton delusion this late in the game deserves ridicule.
I’m sure the kraken will turn out differently than all the arrests and indictments we’ve been told about. Trusting Sessions, JFK Jr, the storm, the days when “something big” was supposed to happen, etc.
Just admit you put your hopes in a psyop and move on. Plenty of others have already started walking away from it.
What’s a childish fantasy about saying that a lawyer is filing a case today, when she says she’s filing a case today? I have already implied that the case itself may be a childish fantasy, but she has a right to make it if she suspects foul play and she is the one that will suffer if it is thrown out with derision.
I admit to not holding Biden in high esteem; I’ve made that quite plain in my texts. But my main concern is and always has been that due process is followed and the democratic will of the people is observed. Right there are a lot of people in the US (I have said 75million, but that could be a conservative estimate) who have their doubts. And just now the courts are the right place to pursue this.
I have no hopes in your (conspiracy?) theory of a ‘psyop’. Frankly I couldn’t give a damn as it doesn’t affect me over this side of the pond. I DO care about due process and democracy.
Okay, when this kraken fails to materialize, will you finally move on or will you grasp at a few more straws?
Watching millions of people become so desperately delusional is sad. If you’re not in the US, you shouldn’t give a toss about Trump. I guarantee he doesn’t care about you, just like he doesn’t care about us in the US. In four years of watching him the only places dear to his heart seem to be Israel and Saudi Arabia!
I am not in the USA and really couldn’t care a toss about Trump; but I do care profoundly about the impact of the Presidential office on the UK, which is where I live. And I am not at all heartened by what is reported about Biden’s seeming ‘interventionist’ attitude towards the UK, and in particular the line that he appears to be taking wrt Europe, Northern Ireland and the Republic. I worry he is driven by purely sentimental drivel and nostalgia because as we have already had it thrust down our throat ‘he will be the most ‘Irish’ President since Kennedy. Hopefully, and I mean HOPEFULLY, it will be settled by the time Biden gets into office (IF he gets into office), but I’m not holding my breath. The fact that Trump doesn’t or didn’t care about the UK and had a laissez-fair attitude suited my just fine.
Oh, eff off about the lost land of the leprechauns. Raping and pillaging a land for centuries and still bitter about being tossed out.
Last time I was in England, I was at a B&B at one of Prince Charles holdings, and mentioned I had just come from Ireland(Republic) and I was asked by a Briton at the breakfast table, “Why on earth would you go there?”
You do realize the world does not revolve around Britain any more?
It seems you are upset with me and perhaps with Britain, and are making all sorts of unfounded aspersions. I don’t recall submitting one conspiracy on this thread. All I said is a lawyer named Powell is submitting an interesting case in Georgia today and I will be interested in the outcome. I have tried to be civil and shall leave the discussion there as its clear you have no room for good humoured and well intended debate as shown by others on this board. Good luck!
I wish you were right, but careful parsing of her remarks has convinced me it’s a big pile of innuendo and misunderstanding, with no actual technical evidence. Even if she’s right about there being fraud.
We’ll see if the Kraken really appears today or not. I am very doubtful given the track record of the actual evidence attached to previous filings in court by Trump affiliated attorneys, by the fact that the Trump team strongly distanced themselves from her, and also given the fact that in Georgia, a manual recount (i.e., not using any voting machines) changed the final result only slightly, but I guess we’ll see…
I find it interesting how all of these Britons and other EU types feel so free to cast aspersion and internet conspiracy theories about the US.
Still bitter about our break from the old-world? While you are still living in a world where your deepest feel-good moments are lining up to watch the royal carriages roll by, doffing your hats and tugging your forelocks? Where each and every country has had a history of royal conspriracies where the result was the lower orders were always kept down? You do realize that is exactly why the US is not Europe.
It’s kind of like penis-envy. Too many glimpses in the locker room of what might have made you and your wife happy.
Cheers, matey!
What on earth makes you think I’m a Royalist? And what on earth does the size of my Penis have to do with the proposed Biden administration and law suits in the USA. Courteously, HV.
You live in the system and it warps your outlook.
And your fundamental ignorance of the US election process is proven by your fail to grasp the truly ludicrous nature of the internet conspiracies you seem to moot.
Why do you actually come to Europe when the US of A is such a great place ? ‘The US broke with the old world ‘ ? Oh really since when ? The US just can t stop interfering with our lives ! After the CIA coup in Ukraine, Obama armtwisted the spineless EU into starting negotiations for EU membership with basket case Ukraine, Obama messed up Libya and Syria creating a dramatic still ongoing refugee crisis here. Your foe, Trump, actually improved the situation a little but even he didn t want us to buy gas from Russia and wanted to impose even more sanctions on our neighbour……I do wonder what s gonna happen under your dyed-in-the-wool neocon Biden ….. We appreciate what you did in 40-45, in the meantime though our debt has been paid off multiple times so PLEASE leave us alone now, and PLEASE don t mess up our front and backyards any longer !
Happy Thanksgiving, US Citizens. Hope this isn’t too much ‘cold turkey’ … link to justthenews.com
No worries…TCD withdrawals are strong…Stronger than Cocaine..
Another infected with TCD is the road to recovery…..But before….he needs to make some last absurd attacks…
A great series on the Myth that was the Trump Presidency.
When the pardons come, Trump will reveal more about his ties to Russia.
Give us a break, you with your Russian fever on the brain.
It isn’t Russians, it Penguins from now on.
Another piece of the 2016 election that got traced back to the Trump campaign and Russia.
One day everyone will know what some already do — that the full truth about the Trump campaign’s ties with Russia — duped the country.
Yes if they declassify everything. Then we will know a lot more about a lot of things.
Thanks Mish! Nice data driven site with interesting mostly non-partisan analysis of Economics, Politics, and major events! I read your posts daily when possible.
You figured out this gives you the most eyeballs? That’s cool. Your Mish blog was huge in my understanding of economics and most importantly, asking questions. I am really shocked that not one bit of data on the election.
The improbable number of Biden votes that statistically is impossible (like thousands of votes in a row, like sequences of batches at the same exact ratio, etc)
The increase in voting counts, which is typical of ballot stuffing. Especially in these five key metro areas that are being looked into.
The “water main” leak they had to shut down counting, only for them to say it was “overblown”. The increasing number of glitches or human error all in Biden’s favor, again statistically impossible. The Dominion voting people not showing up in PA, Eric Coomer coverup, offices moved? I mean, what company does that? You refuse to ask questions, can’t figure out why…
Anyone Here able to Post?
It is so weird to see people so invested in fictions and wild conspiracy theories about voter fraud. Keep up the good work, Mish!
Not sure the reason to front-run any official declaration or legal challenge just to hypothetically shoe-in a bunch of socialist warmongers. Either way, you know full well that most who voted for Trump are convinced the dems are underhand wrt to election manipulation, and it would seem so to me. People on the right aren’t bothered in replying to your political articles, as you know, presumably because they see them and many of the related comments of support here as a parody. You can cast a ballot for someone, say jojo, but to pull down (vote out) just one party consistently is effectively voting for those who will take power instead.
I thought they were Marxist warmongers?
No, they’re transexual lizard people. Do keep up.
Say what?!!
Then why are you wasting your pearls of wisdom here by replying to the political articles?
Or are you a parody reacting to a parody.
Oh, it’s all so confusing, especially when the sky is pink in your world, but blue in mine.
It seems clear that if Trump actually had any evidence of fraud, he would have presented it, so it would seem that the only thing Trump was trying to do was to undermine the Republic, not to overturn the election, and he has done damage to the US that will not be undone for a generation, if ever.
I’m still waiting for the lawyer on Kraken (tomorrow, it seems)….
Sidney Powell surfaced Tuesday night on Fox Business Network’s Lou Dobbs show to claim she would file a ‘massive document’ with ‘lots of exhibits’ in Georgia Wednesday alleging fraud.
‘The evidence is so overwhelming, it’s almost as though they were so blatant about it they expected us to catch it,’ she told Dobbs.
She was described as a ‘member of President Trump’s legal team’ which she is explicitly not. During the day she tweeted a demand that Trump fire his current advisers and hold a rally in every disputed state.
Seems Powell is jockeying for control of the GOP. She seems just the right amount of batshit insane.
Yes all good lawyers wait two week past the election to file their real case
I wish the Q types (like the first reply) would finally get into Missouri “show me” mode. They keep promising bombshells over the last three years, but then we wait, and wait, and wait…
It’s amazing how much psychological punishment people are willing to endure for the benefit of an online LARP.
“You can delude yourself all you want, all you libbies know deep in your gut that your side stole this election, and your side has been doing it since at least JFK, 60 years ago. This time you got brazen and drunk with invincibility including the spy agencies and the media, but your crimes will be found out, you can’t hide it forever, and when proof comes out, you will run like rats and start turning on each other for lighter jail sentences.”
Best not to reply to idiots like that because when I delete the comment everything goes with it
Did the hearing in Gettysburg, Pa change your mind? I thought the testimony was compelling. Being a former Illinois resident, do you really think politicians are above rigging an election. A couple of key points from yesterday. Votes were added faster than the machine could scan them. One mass vote addition went something like 597k for Biden and 3k for Trump. Thoughts?
I think that if Trump had any evidence of fraud he would have presented it. Since Trump was unable to produce any evidence of substantial fraud in any state, I’m convinced that this was the safest, most well monitored election in history.
Carl, see the attached link to the hearing held in PA. just yesterday.
Judge for yourself if the witnesses are credible or not. They have plenty of affidavits (evidence) from people regarding the issues discussed in the meeting.