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Significant Negative GDP Revisions for 2022 Q4 Are Consistent With Recession

2022 Q4 GDP data from the BEA, chart by Mish. 

Please consider the Gross Domestic Product, Fourth Quarter 2022 and Year 2022 (Second Estimate).

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 2.7 percent in the fourth quarter of 2022, according to the “second” estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased 3.2 percent.

The GDP estimate released today is based on more complete source data than were available for the “advance” estimate issued last month. In the advance estimate, the increase in real GDP was 2.9 percent. The updated estimates primarily reflected a downward revision to consumer spending that was partly offset by an upward revision to nonresidential fixed investment. Imports, which are a subtraction in the calculation of GDP, were revised up 

GDP 2022 Q4 Revision Summary

GDP 2022 Q4 Revision 1, BEA data chart by Mish

2022 Q4 Revised Details

  • Real GDP was up 2.7 percentage points (PP).
  • Real Final Sales (RFS) were up 1.2 percent. RFS is the bottom line number. The rest is inventory adjustment which nets to zero over time.
  • Inventory adjustments added 1.5 PP to GDP.
  • Real Final Sales to Private Domestic Purchasers was just 0.1 PP. Government spending including military aid contributed 1.1 PP to the RFS total. 
  • Dramatic revision in Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) from 2.1 percent to 1.4 percent. 

Numbers to Watch

GDP was revised lower to 2.7 percent. But the bottom line estimate is Real Final Sales (RFS) at 1.2 percent.

The difference between Real GDP and RFS is inventory adjustment that nets to zero over time. 

RFS to private domestic purchasers was a mere 0.1 percent. 

Recession Watch

These numbers do not signal recession but the slowdown is consistent with one. 

On January 26, I commented 4th Quarter 2022 GDP Is Much Weaker Than Headline Numbers, Recession Is Not Off

These revisions add to that view.

Note that Industrial Production Much Weaker Than Expected, With Negative Revisions Too

As I have commented many times, heading into recessions the revisions will tend to be heavily negative. 

Coming out of recessions, revisions tend to be positive.

Current Money Supply Numbers

Money supply numbers are also hugely recessionary. 

We are in the biggest collapse in money supply since the Great Depression.

For discussion, please see Comments From Lacy Hunt on the Fed’s Current Money Supply Numbers

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MBP
MBP
3 years ago
Hello Mish. This is a list of upcoming GDPNow release dates for the quarter. When do you expect to see that model produce a much lower number than the current 2.7% growth rate estimate?
2/27/2023 Advance Census manufacturing (M3-1)
3/1/2023 ISM Manufacturing Index, Construction spending
3/7/2023 Wholesale trade
3/8/2023 International trade (Full report)
3/15/2023 Retail sales + inventories, Producer Price Index
3/16/2023 Housing starts, Import and export prices
3/24/2023 Advance Census manufacturing (M3-1)
3/31/2023 Personal income and outlays, NIPA underlying detail tables, Gross Domestic Product (3/30)
4/3/2023 ISM Manufacturing Index, Construction spending
4/5/2023 International trade (Full report), ISM Nonmanufacturing Index
4/10/2023 Wholesale trade
4/14/2023 Retail sales + inventories, Industrial production and capacity utilization, Import and export prices
4/18/2023 Housing starts
4/26/2023 Final nowcast of 2023:Q1 GDP growth: Advance Census manufacturing (M3-1), Advance Economic Indicators
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
No numbers will ever again signal a recession.
But the slowdown is consistent with one.
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Some things are consistent with recession and some are not. A good aggregation model of all the data in GDPNow. Halfway through the quarter and it went up 20 basis points to 2.7% today.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
O/N RRPs hit 2022-12-30 2553.716. On 2023-02-24 2142.141. That’s a significant easing of monetary policy.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
“Significant Negative GDP Revisions for 2022 Q4 Are Consistent With Recession”
Absolutely.
Now, bullz might counter with mumbo jumbo … but everyone should agree that Energy a heat map for the economy. If so, bullz need to explain the drop in supply AND price (year over year) past 4 months. A growing economy??
EIA report first week of November 2022:
Total products supplied over the last four-week period averaged 20.3 million
barrels a day, down by 0.5% from the same period last year. Over the past
four weeks, motor gasoline product supplied averaged 8.6 million barrels a
day, down by 8.2% from the same period last year. Distillate fuel product
supplied averaged 4.1 million barrels a day over the past four weeks, up by
5.1% from the same period last year. Jet fuel product supplied was up 0.7%
compared with the same four-week period last year.
The West Texas Intermediate crude oil price was $87.85 per barrel on
October 28, 2022, $2.38 above last week’s price and $4.35 more than a year
ago. The spot price for conventional gasoline in the New York Harbor was
$3.152 per gallon, $0.203 more than last week’s price but $0.615 above a
year ago. The spot price for No. 2 heating oil in the New York Harbor was
$4.540 per gallon, $0.396 above last week’s price and $2.198 over a year
ago.
The national average retail regular gasoline price decreased to $3.742 per
gallon on October 31, 2022, $0.027 below last week’s price but $0.352 over
a year ago. The national average retail diesel fuel price decreased to $5.317
per gallon, $0.024 per gallon lower than last week’s price but $1.590 higher
than a year ago.
Current week:
Total products supplied over the last four-week period averaged 20.0 million
barrels a day, down by 8.4% from the same period last year. Over the past
four weeks, motor gasoline product supplied averaged 8.5 million barrels a
day, down by 1.4% from the same period last year. Distillate fuel product
supplied averaged 3.8 million barrels a day over the past four weeks, down
by 13.7% from the same period last year. Jet fuel product supplied was up
0.6% compared with the same four-week period last year.
The West Texas Intermediate crude oil price fell to $76.31 per barrel on
February 17, 2023, $3.43 lower than the previous week, and $14.95 less
than a year ago. The spot price for conventional gasoline at New York
Harbor decreased $0.134 to $2.497 per gallon, and was $0.246 less the price
one year ago. The New York Harbor spot price for No. 2 heating oil fell
$0.158 to $2.526 per gallon, and was $0.133 below the price last year at the
same time.
The national average retail price for regular gasoline decreased to $3.379
per gallon on February 13, 2023, $0.011 below last week’s price, and
$0.151 below the price last year. The national average retail diesel fuel
price decreased to $4.376 per gallon, $0.068 less than last week, but $0.321
higher than the price one year ago
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
The EIA links alone with a brief comment would have been sufficient.
Christoball
Christoball
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
It has been stated that abiotic petroleum inventories are up, along with products supplied being down.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
It would be a pretty impressive feat to have negative real GDP while the Federal Government is running a $1.5 TRILLION+ deficit.
But these clowns might actually be able to pull it off.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
What’s ominous is the drop in currency in circulation.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Hard to understand considering the amount of currency that should be moving from mattresses to 4%+ bank accounts.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Yes but the starting point was a much level of currency in circulation. It can crash much further and remain much above pre-COVID days.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Recessions occur when there is a drop in short-term money flows. They are usually preceded by a drop in velocity. That’s what Dr. Philip George’s work shows.
See Divisia Aggregates
DivisiaReports.xlsb (centerforfinancialstability.org)
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
re: “We are in the biggest collapse in money supply since the Great Depression.”
Not so. The GFC represented the biggest collapse in money flows, the volume and velocity of money, since the GD. During the GFC prices went negative. Prices this time are still increasing. Money is the measure of liquidity, the yardstick by which the liquidity of all other
assets is measured.
see: Both “Inflationistas” & “Recessionistas” see the economy in the dumpster in 2023! (substack.com)
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Perhaps prices are continuing on inertia and a money collapse may be about to begin.
klausmkl
klausmkl
3 years ago
Of course we are in a recession environment along with stagflation. War is inflationary so prices will continue to rise. Those folks living on Fantasy Island can disagree. That’s ok. The fed will keep raising rates but will have to pivot eventually. The pivot will shoot inflation up even higher. We haven’t seen anything yet. Inflation comes in waves. In 1918 Germany prices rose 8 times, then in 1922 prices rose 122 times.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  klausmkl
Eventually prices stop rising.
“On August 30, 1924, a monetary law permitted the exchange of a
1-trillion paper mark note to a new Reichsmark, worth the same as a
Rentenmark. By 1924 one dollar was equivalent to 4.2 Rentenmark.”
Life goes on, but it can become very very uncomfortable.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
NQ monthly, large selling tail. How far it can go we don’t know.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Don’t worry about the economy. The most important thing is that we keep sending money to Ukraine for Biden’s War.
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
I think the recession will come when he goads the Russians into deploying tactical nukes. At that point I am seeing a full fledged nuclear exchange and the defict then will be a mute topic after the world is laid to wast. Yes Biden is that stupid.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
If the Americans were to stop the sending, the Ukrainians wouldn’t be able to pay Raytheon and BAE, et. al.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
The biggest collapse in the money supply since the great depression. It’s always so comforting when our present financial situation gets close to that time. I’m sure we have more than enough incompetence in the global leadership to create as many such comparisons as possible. In fact, I think the technology we have today has the potential for their incompetence to beat that mark without a problem.

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